Should Bioware include a character like Mass Effect Andromeda's Cora in Dragon Age 4?

But Cora also not a teen...

I'm not saying that I agree with their point. I was just answering your question about what they were referring to. 

This whole topic seems really shallow if I'm being honest. Everyone has their preference and ideas on "conventional" beauty, but if it becomes the main reason why you romance them that just seems shallow like I said. Also, besides having short hair and being fighters I don't see how Cora and Cassandra are all that "feminine," or at least to the point that they become undesirable to straight male players.

His original post said teen/young adult. I'm not advocating his position btw, rather I'm saying you're not addressing his point  

Does Josephine somehow not fit this criteria?

Maybe not damsel in distress? It's really hard to gauge exactly the actual role. Lol. The range is wild on the internet for me to fit in one word. I thought she was attractive and a loving romance though it's sorta..ah, the word.. uninteresting especially compared to other romance arcs. I feel for the writers developing romance plotlines. Honestly, I don't exactly know what people are looking for. I've enjoyed a lot of the romances to some degree so I'm down for whatever. There's no wrong anwser because they will never satisfy everyone's take on beauty and personality of a woman.

Cora and Case's appearance isn't exactly womanly to a lot of guys (not in general). When Cass appeared in DA2 with that haircut, I thought she was a butch/manly lesbian. Obviously, it depends on where you live. I cannot count one chick with their hairstyle and masculine traits that dates a guy in my city. I know countless cool chicks with those types of haircuts with masculine traits that are lesbians ..who are looking for the same type of chick that straight guys are into for the most part. Lol. I'm just rambling aloud..

Borderline. While "long hair" and "short hair" tends to vary depending who you talk to, short hair is pretty well universally defined as anything above shoulder length.

After that some people call long hair anywhere past shoulder length, but this really dispenses with the medium hair category. People who include the medium length tends call it between shoulder and armpit length.

Anything past armpit length tends to be universally considered long. Some salons cut out the medium length and call between the shoulder and armpit long, and anything past the armpit extra long, but that's a bit ridiculous in my opinion:



Going by the image Josephine's hair is right on the border between medium and long, imo. It's hard to tell cause it's swept to the side.

so to appease a subset of male gamers we need a female character with Generic Video Game Female Face, long hair, and have a 1950s Disney damsel in distress plot. Okay. Got it.

Mhm. As someone who has spent 7 of the last 8 BioWare games less than personally impressed by the romances geared towards me I can sympathize with wanting something enticing in the next game. 

But I mostly do the romances for RP reasons not personal tastes so I tend to see it as a non issue what characters look like or wanting BioWare to write for my tastes. There’s better spank bank sources than BioWare games.

Here’s hoping, though. 

Something we we all should remember though is that characters are meant to be interesting outside the romance first, the romance is meant to further develop or contextualize aspects of their prime character second, And more importantly the personality/story/appearance of the character is to fulfill the writer’s vision of a satisfying (and this could mean innovative) character that feels original and not too derivative or uninspired. Which means not writing characters by formula or trying to fulfill anyone’s wishlist. 

Those lucky enough to have been thouroughly satisfied with all their boxes checked by a BioWare romanceable character are just: lucky. It’s a by product of trying to write interesting characters that some people will love them and others will not. And odds are you’d still not like a character they intentionally designed for you, because sometimes we aren’t aware of what we really want until we are open to being surprised by something unexpected or novel. 

But out giving them feedback is always good. After andromeda they’ve proven they desperately need it. 

I highly doubt BioWares writing process is to say “does this character satisfy x group of gamers?” Because I think there’s some of us salty folks here who remember the Andromeda debacle. So we know straight from the horses mouth that is not their goal.

They’ve got blood rites and dark magic rituals and secret sauces they utilize and then they run it through the Make Sense algorithm to make sure their sexuality makes sense to the VI they are developing to write more natural characters. 

Obviously.

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