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Post by Heimdall on May 30, 2018 20:31:26 GMT
Well, I just managed to piss Hank off so much he shot Connor in the head.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jun 1, 2018 18:05:47 GMT
Just started the game...when can I access the extras? I just finished the hostage negotiation on the roof and the extras section seems to still be locked.
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 1, 2018 18:30:26 GMT
Just started the game...when can I access the extras? I just finished the hostage negotiation on the roof and the extras section seems to still be locked. Honestly I never checked until after I finished my first playthrough.
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Post by phoray on Jun 1, 2018 20:51:31 GMT
Just started the game...when can I access the extras? I just finished the hostage negotiation on the roof and the extras section seems to still be locked. I never looked at them until after end of my first PT, but it's kind of a weird "shopping with your completion points" place. After one mission, you're unlikely to have enough point to purchase?
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jun 2, 2018 19:34:27 GMT
Figured it out. The game wasn't 100% downloaded and the extras weren't available until it was.
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Post by phoray on Jun 2, 2018 20:12:15 GMT
Husband started playing: his Conner and the Android fell over the roof edge to save the little girl. I was like, are you going to have a Conner constantly dies play through? Good start!
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 2, 2018 20:33:49 GMT
Husband started playing: his Conner and the Android fell over the roof edge to save the little girl. I was like, are you going to have a Conner constantly dies play through? Good start! My Connor died a lot last playthrough I finally did one where Connor and Markus both got to the final chapter as enemies, got to choose which one to control for the final battle.
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Post by phoray on Jun 2, 2018 20:44:40 GMT
I finally did one where Connor and Markus both got to the final chapter as enemies, got to choose which one to control for the final battle. Wow! I'm still deliberating what I want my 3rd PT to be about. I want Hank to live for once, would be nice, but according to your experience being "too robot" gets Hank to shoot you. I've also heard there are situations where Hank kills himself. Successfully, this time, but I don't know the full details of how to get either outcome. Games too new--- I look up Guides and they're incomplete I was pleased and relieved to find out that the only reason my Kara made it across the Canadian Border was because I'd committed to a full Peaceful Marcus route. I do know I want to go full blown Renegade Marcus.
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 2, 2018 21:11:03 GMT
I finally did one where Connor and Markus both got to the final chapter as enemies, got to choose which one to control for the final battle. Wow! I'm still deliberating what I want my 3rd PT to be about. I want Hank to live for once, would be nice, but according to your experience being "too robot" gets Hank to shoot you. I've also heard there are situations where Hank kills himself. Successfully, this time, but I don't know the full details of how to get either outcome. Games too new--- I look up Guides and they're incomplete I was pleased and relieved to find out that the only reason my Kara made it across the Canadian Border was because I'd committed to a full Peaceful Marcus route. I do know I want to go full blown Renegade Marcus. Well, he killed himself in that run. I’m not sure what factors led to it. He really didn’t respond well when I killed that Android at Kamski’s place. I think you need to have a positive relationship with him in order to convince him to have hope. That was also my full renegade Markus run, though I don’t think I actually got the chance to trigger the dirty bomb, maybe I missed it.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jun 3, 2018 18:41:10 GMT
Husband started playing: his Conner and the Android fell over the roof edge to save the little girl. I was like, are you going to have a Conner constantly dies play through? Good start! I got Connor shot by being too aggressive during the interrogation. I was trying to make Connor really anti deviant so I made him push and push and push the suspect until he reached 100% stressed and that backfired at the end of the scene.
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Post by Marduk on Jun 4, 2018 9:10:33 GMT
One thing about Kara's story that I'm unsure how I feel about; Whether the reveal that Alice is secretly an Android ruins what was interesting about Kara's story (Android becomes surrogate mother to human child) in the first place? Was Alice programmed to be unaware of her true nature, did she know but pretended for Kara's sake, or had she become deviant prior to the game? Actually, that ties into another minor criticism; Aside from Rose and the implication an underground railroad exists, we don't see any indication there exists any human advocacy groups for Androids in this world, which you'd think realistically there would be?
Even if Jericho refused to allow humans to join their ranks for fear they might be spies or saboteurs, it'd have been nice to have at least heard of Android Rights Groups on the news that were supporting or condemning Markus, depending on what path his revolution took.
I know the focus is meant to be on the Androids, so having humans helping them might deflate their sense of agency in fighting for their freedom, but it feels unrealistic not for any humans to be shown on their side. After all, the point of the pacifist run is to gain public support, so seeing that reflected in the game would have been nice.
I think they did it so it would be easier keeping Alice and Kara together for dramatic purposes specially in Recycling center. she probably was scared to talk about her nature. its better to assume she was a deviant already than her running "get scared.exe" during daddy's torture time.
I didn't like the twist either. their journey would be more relatable if she was a human.. as for advocacy groups, apparently there is like a ~40% unemployment rate so maybe thats the reason. it is surprising that we can still change the public opinion.
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Post by jaison1986 on Jun 4, 2018 12:35:33 GMT
One thing about Kara's story that I'm unsure how I feel about; Whether the reveal that Alice is secretly an Android ruins what was interesting about Kara's story (Android becomes surrogate mother to human child) in the first place? Was Alice programmed to be unaware of her true nature, did she know but pretended for Kara's sake, or had she become deviant prior to the game? Actually, that ties into another minor criticism; Aside from Rose and the implication an underground railroad exists, we don't see any indication there exists any human advocacy groups for Androids in this world, which you'd think realistically there would be?
Even if Jericho refused to allow humans to join their ranks for fear they might be spies or saboteurs, it'd have been nice to have at least heard of Android Rights Groups on the news that were supporting or condemning Markus, depending on what path his revolution took.
I know the focus is meant to be on the Androids, so having humans helping them might deflate their sense of agency in fighting for their freedom, but it feels unrealistic not for any humans to be shown on their side. After all, the point of the pacifist run is to gain public support, so seeing that reflected in the game would have been nice.
I think they did it so it would be easier keeping Alice and Kara together for dramatic purposes specially in Recycling center. she probably was scared to talk about her nature. its better to assume she was a deviant already than her running "get scared.exe" during daddy's torture time.
I didn't like the twist either. their journey would be more relatable if she was a human.. as for advocacy groups, apparently there is like a ~40% unemployment rate so maybe thats the reason. it is surprising that we can still change the public opinion.
Well, maybe those 40% like the idea of androids being free. That way they can't be used as free labor anymore and perhaps humans can finally get their jobs back.
I personaly didn't liked Alice plot twist. Not because the fact she being an android makes her lesser for me, but because it felt I was tricked into caring about something that wasn't real.
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 4, 2018 13:16:50 GMT
I think they did it so it would be easier keeping Alice and Kara together for dramatic purposes specially in Recycling center. she probably was scared to talk about her nature. its better to assume she was a deviant already than her running "get scared.exe" during daddy's torture time.
I didn't like the twist either. their journey would be more relatable if she was a human.. as for advocacy groups, apparently there is like a ~40% unemployment rate so maybe thats the reason. it is surprising that we can still change the public opinion.
Well, maybe those 40% like the idea of androids being free. That way they can't be used as free labor anymore and perhaps humans can finally get their jobs back.
I personaly didn't liked Alice plot twist. Not because the fact she being an android makes her lesser for me, but because it felt I was tricked into caring about something that wasn't real. Well that is part of why working class people in the northern United States opposed slavery in the 1800s, they feared that the expansion of slavery would threaten their jobs. I feel like it was more interesting with Kara being the only one who cared for the human child. And the emotional bond between them felt more meaningful that way, rather than Alice being literally programmed with the desire for parental love.
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Post by Marduk on Jun 4, 2018 15:08:06 GMT
I think they did it so it would be easier keeping Alice and Kara together for dramatic purposes specially in Recycling center. she probably was scared to talk about her nature. its better to assume she was a deviant already than her running "get scared.exe" during daddy's torture time.
I didn't like the twist either. their journey would be more relatable if she was a human.. as for advocacy groups, apparently there is like a ~40% unemployment rate so maybe thats the reason. it is surprising that we can still change the public opinion.
Well, maybe those 40% like the idea of androids being free. That way they can't be used as free labor anymore and perhaps humans can finally get their jobs back.
Totally, if there was no android involved. since they are way more efficient its worth paying them and if they want a piece of our earth they got to work like everyone else. those 40% really liked the kissing/singing though i guess
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Post by phoray on Jun 4, 2018 16:38:56 GMT
Well, maybe those 40% like the idea of androids being free. That way they can't be used as free labor anymore and perhaps humans can finally get their jobs back.
I personaly didn't liked Alice plot twist. Not because the fact she being an android makes her lesser for me, but because it felt I was tricked into caring about something that wasn't real. Well that is part of why working class people in the northern United States opposed slavery in the 1800s, they feared that the expansion of slavery would threaten their jobs. I feel like it was more interesting with Kara being the only one who cared for the human child. And the emotional bond between them felt more meaningful that way, rather than Alice being literally programmed with the desire for parental love. Wasn't it actually that Kara was programmed with Maternal Love for whatever being she was assigned to care about?
I still think that Alice was already Deviant from the moment Kara arrived and before, maybe since the last Kara was destroyed. Therefore, Kara caring about Alice was programmed, but it wasn't programmed for Alice to care about Kara. It was a choice, mayhap based off of a desire for a family unit. But it was still Alice choosing Kara to be part of that.
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 4, 2018 19:43:31 GMT
Well that is part of why working class people in the northern United States opposed slavery in the 1800s, they feared that the expansion of slavery would threaten their jobs. I feel like it was more interesting with Kara being the only one who cared for the human child. And the emotional bond between them felt more meaningful that way, rather than Alice being literally programmed with the desire for parental love. Wasn't it actually that Kara was programmed with Maternal Love for whatever being she was assigned to care about?
I still think that Alice was already Deviant from the moment Kara arrived and before, maybe since the last Kara was destroyed. Therefore, Kara caring about Alice was programmed, but it wasn't programmed for Alice to care about Kara. It was a choice, mayhap based off of a desire for a family unit. But it was still Alice choosing Kara to be part of that. Maybe, I still think it’s more interesting to have her be human and have their relationship be one that transcends the human/Android divide.
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 4, 2018 19:48:29 GMT
I just found out what happens when you can’t get on the bus Rose takes you to the river so you can get snuggle across in little boats. And apparently the Canadian border guard is really trigger happy, they opened fire and Kara got shot. The boat also started to sink and the engine broke. So Kara jumped in the water and pushed the boat to the far bank, the freezing water causing her biocomponents to fail. She died shortly after getting Alice to safety.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 4, 2018 21:02:30 GMT
Would anyone here recommend this game?
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Post by phoray on Jun 5, 2018 2:01:28 GMT
I wanted to play Super Robot Connor vs Violent Marcus this PT (#3)
I managed to get and use the gun in the very first mission and headshot the android holding the girl hostage. It said Connor's Instability increased and I just don't get that. @_@
Captain Obvious the person playing it a third time says it's good. I would watch the first mission on someone's Let's Play to see if it's really your thing though.
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Post by phoray on Jun 5, 2018 2:36:29 GMT
First time I realized they were having Androids sell Androids in the Kara Intro.
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Post by phoray on Jun 5, 2018 4:27:58 GMT
Since being super smart and going straight to squat house with no evidence got me exactly that, squat! Decided to take the most obvious with tons of evidence route. Robbed the laundromat and the store so we could stay at a hotel. Alice was quite perturbed by my constant theivery
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 5, 2018 13:43:29 GMT
I wanted to play Super Robot Connor vs Violent Marcus this PT (#3)
I managed to get and use the gun in the very first mission and headshot the android holding the girl hostage. It said Connor's Instability increased and I just don't get that. @_@
I think it’s because Androids aren’t technically allowed to have guns.
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Post by phoray on Jun 5, 2018 15:11:25 GMT
I think it’s because Androids aren’t technically allowed to have guns. So Endgame Connor holding Hank Hostage is being super deviant right off the bat?
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 5, 2018 15:42:43 GMT
I think it’s because Androids aren’t technically allowed to have guns. So Endgame Connor holding Hank Hostage is being super deviant right off the bat? Well, unless he was ordered to.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jun 6, 2018 2:04:21 GMT
I keep hearing that Chloe is supposed to sometimes comment on your story/decisions. When exactly? I’ve gotten through a decent amount of missions and Chloe hasn’t said anything but the same old dialogue she’s always saying.
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