Your Guilty Pleasures

Aye, I guess I served that one up nice and easy for you.

A tru bsner is allergic to fitness ( unless it comes with melee damage or movementspeed boni ).

Fist bump! I'm the same, around 350 hrs in, 141 UR cards to go and scrubbing hard I have only one No Fitness build iirc I take to Gold, and that's thanks to Urizen's build on the Demolisher (which is fun, but I have to be so careful).

  My issue with a zero fitness build(s) is things like Banshee Warp balls that 1) track you to the ends of the cosmos 2) can warp through walls and 3) be invisible when they want to, as well as 4) can even hit you in hard cover.  I should also mention things like London vs. Collectors (Think dual spawning Scions and Preatorian butt lazors as well as Possessed Praetorian tracking bombs (from WAY across the map)). 

  I need some shields.  People who don't need them are a rare breed, or have so little lag that ops packs actually work before you die.  Which reminds me - zero fitness builds trying to run across green ravager goo (which can damage you even when it is invisible).

  FML

...been playing since launch and still don't use fitnessless builds. The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long, and all that.

btw. why did you leave at our last communal match during extraction?

I still take fitness on the vast majority of my builds and passed 2000h played some time ago. I live in the middle east currently and use a proxy so end up in North American and European lobbies and always have games with tons of lag. Having fitness makes the game a noticeably more pleasant experience for me. 

Also Turian Soldier gets too tied up in cooldowns with CS, PM, and MM, IMO, and there's no compelling reason to take tech armor past 5 on the Turian Sentinel. So there's no real good reason to skip fitness. Those are, of course, the only kits I play 

I didn't have the quad to spec Ms Cargopants like that - so, my pylon is crap and is there just to give everyone a little bit of shields and blow up an occasional husk. No one appreciates it anyway, even when you bring it to them and put it right under their asses.

^^THIS. My games are almost always laggy, which means that all those warp balls, rockets, lasers and similar stuff thrown at me will hit almost 100%. I don't even bother using Ops packs most of the time, because 99% of the time they'll just give my corpse some extra shine. I have to make do with what I have, so by far I've been opting for less overall damage, but more durability. Because dead bodies don't do any damage at all.

Unfortunately, this is not the case with every single build, as more often than not you have to sacrifice something. With Soldiers, speccing out of one power and maxing the rest is quite common, AFAIK. You made a really good point about powers that have broken/not-so-useful evolutions that can be easily dropped (I can't thank everyone here enough for gathering so much info on that!), but sometimes it's just not the case. I would kill for some extra points for my Turian Sentinel

Yeah, that's it.
As for that game, I'm really sorry for dropping out - and of course it was NOT intentional (I'm aware of the consequences), as my game froze up and forced me to hard reboot - and then crashed again upon restarting, rendering it totally impossible for me to get back into the game in time. The two other guys can vouch for that - they've heard me screaming in frustration on Discord.
Thanks for those games, you're an amazing player! Hope to team up again sometime

I live in Japan, so the situation is pretty much the same - in most cases, it's heavy lag, and if I happen to find at least a host that I don't have rubber-banding on, I'm more than happy, as that's all I can ask for. Enemies detect me and hit me way before I know it, so I really, really need some extra durability - without it I'm as good as already dead.
Although I do host sometimes and make everyone else suffer. Evil. Necessary Evil.
...But why do you say that taking TA on TSent to rank 6 is pointless? I use him as a power-based character to detonate my teammates' primed targets, so that cooldown boost really comes in handy. I know I can slap something like Power Efficiency module on him, but I'd rather use that slot for some sweet, sweet Cyclonic mods.
BTW, a big, big thanks for your videos from me and my friend! We've really enjoyed a lot of them
And yeah, I also love Turians

Ahh, you've just brought here my favourite one

nitrous There are only a few no fitness builds that I run, most usually get at least 3 in fitness; some have 4 points. Off the top of my head they are: all Volus, BF3, AIU, Vanilla AA, DemoGirl, Huntress, QFI (only if running sniper build). Well that's more than I thought. All get Cyclonics if I go to plat with them, save the AIU, that gets an AMIII. Gold is mostly Power Amps or Cyclonic II or III depending on the loadout or weapon.

Pretty much my experience as well. But granted, I regularly run around on plat, where every hit pretty much gates you every time. And yes, this is true for full fitness builds as well ( I do infact run some fitness on my builds where applicable, hence the ).

Regarding the discussion about fitness: I think I run quite a few kits with full fitness simply because I don't use one of the 3 powers. Not necessarily because they are bad but sometimes it just doesn't fit the build I'm playing, my personal preference or the cooldown just gets in the way of one or both of the other powers. That being said "not fitness builds" are totally playable and of course there is also Cyclonics...

I remember when I started playing this game, I was very skeptical about skipping an active power in favour of a passive skill, but after having tried kits with Marksman, AR, some Infiltrators and Vanguards, I'm getting more flexible in terms of how to approach building a kit that suits my playstyle. For instance, I don't really see a TSol with both PM and SC, or a Quarksman with both Sabotage and TacScan. However, I've been thinking about trying that Flamer+HM build on my GTS (although the vast majority of players opt out of one of them, depending what they're using this platform for). I'm also on the fence with FQI's Sticky Grenades, because they're slow and hard to aim (I'm using her as a sniper).
Too bad we don't have two characters for each kit (like with vanilla humans), because respeccing can be a pain in the ass.
And I'd love to see, say, a Drell Female - or go swinging my hammer on a Female Krogan.
What are those powers that you usually skip, by the way?