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Post by samhain444 on Apr 7, 2018 3:24:38 GMT
I'm ready to believe that EA isn't that bad (most of the time). But I keep coming back to the From Ashes DLC issue. Was it really BioWare's idea to rip Javik out of the game (necessitating plot re-structuring) to be sold as Day 1 DLC? I doubt that EA specifically told them to do that to Javik, but I wouldn't be surprised if Day 1 DLC was the order from EA, and From Ashes was how BioWare decided to handle it (they had DLC characters in ME2 after all). He was cut because Bioware didn't have enough time to do what they wanted to do. https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/1wyz7e/some_interesting_facts_about_me3s_development/ Yeah, game had gone "Gold" before they finished Javik and they worked on it after so they could have it available a Day 1 DLC...which is why some of his info was already on the disc when it shipped. Mike Gamble talked about it on a few occassions
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Post by abedsbrother on Apr 7, 2018 3:53:11 GMT
I'm ready to believe that EA isn't that bad (most of the time). But I keep coming back to the From Ashes DLC issue. Was it really BioWare's idea to rip Javik out of the game (necessitating plot re-structuring) to be sold as Day 1 DLC? I doubt that EA specifically told them to do that to Javik, but I wouldn't be surprised if Day 1 DLC was the order from EA, and From Ashes was how BioWare decided to handle it (they had DLC characters in ME2 after all). He was cut because Bioware didn't have enough time to do what they wanted to do. https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/1wyz7e/some_interesting_facts_about_me3s_development/ So BioWare has been mis-managing themselves & their projects for years? That's... sad.
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 7, 2018 7:04:16 GMT
He was cut because Bioware didn't have enough time to do what they wanted to do. https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/1wyz7e/some_interesting_facts_about_me3s_development/ So BioWare has been mis-managing themselves & their projects for years? That's... sad. Sorry that is the normal for game development and in fact software development as a whole. You need to get the project out the door by the end of completion and non-essential aspects will be altered or cut because the core features are needed to be prioritized.\ BioWare is not alone, I bet the majority of games have had content cut or drastically altered during development for years.
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Post by cloud9 on Apr 7, 2018 21:43:43 GMT
I don't believe a word they say. And the reason why they are casual with this topic, simply because they don't want to lose their jobs.
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Post by turianlannister on Apr 7, 2018 23:21:07 GMT
There's another thread with a link to a similar sentiment from Patrick Weekes, Karin Weekes and David Gaider at Havencon. bsn.boards.net/thread/14624/bioware-ea-da2-rushedSo I'm inclined to believe it, on account of it coming from actual people who work(ed) under EA in Bioware. I think people like to have a big bad boogeyman they can pin everything they don't like on, and something as big and faceless as EA is easier to point the finger at than the previously indie Bioware where you know the names and faces of the devs. If you don't like the direction Bioware has taken then it's on them, and there are plenty more devs in the sea. Mostly I'm surprised that this seems surprising to people. The info on that reddit link has been deleted (someone used the post to write an online article, David Gaider was annoyed the article used second hand information rather than quoting him directly and the reddit poster responded by deleting the post)
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Apr 8, 2018 17:45:48 GMT
Everyone not a part of the situation wants a scapegoat if things don't turn out well.
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