DOOM: The Thread

Loved how the people from the 3rd playthrough were shitting their pants when Doomslayer was walking by them.

For all you Doom lovers out there:

It really isn't. It's just been memed as such for so long that everyone believes it.

Doom had a story, it had lore. And it would've had more if not for the limits of the technology, and the design culture of the time (story in games? lol?). Clearly time has shown the importance of story in games. Doom 3 got with the times. Unfortunately for Doom 3, it was overshadowed by other games that did things better.

Doom 2016 worked and mattered because modern games have sacrificed too much of the fun gameplay of shooters. It's an indictment of cover-based, regenerating health, linear shooters where your hand is held (or rather tightly gripped) from start to finish. Ironically, those games also fail story because it's usually cookie-cutter bland tripe.

Games have evolved from simple arcade "shoot the pixels" to full cinematic, interactive experiences. Unfortunately they've started to slide too much into "cinematic" and have forgotten the interactive or "actually a game" core from whence they came (while also being drained of creativity on a story front). Doom 2016 (and now Doom Eternal) hopefully spearheads a shift back on track to a good balance of the two, but story needs to be properly re-sparked, not tossed aside with the skyboxes.

Personally, the things I found most interesting about Doom 2016 were the lore bits and the Samuel Hayden character. I want to see what happens with that. I also dislike the full on nostalgia bender with the monster designs. The 2D pixels sprites don't really translate well to a realistic 3D model. I'd appreciate some more innovation in demon design. You can nod to the classic without trying to literally wrap it around a model.


Finally, for a series that did evolve to pure twitch and little else, you want Quake.

My guess is that lightsa-err sorry, HellPlasma sword replaces it at some point.

*Picks up chainsaw and starts ripping aliens apart* "Look mom, I'm a lumberjack!" - Serious Sam 2 (I believe).

That'd be lame as fuck. At least with the previous "special weapons" you could use them whenever.

If they literally reduce it to a QTE, I'd rather take the Soul Cube.

Well it clearly is an artifact of sorts, either demonic or godly. My taking is some mystical shit behind so that battle looks cooler.

Yeah that thing was kinda eh. They should've tossed it just for the final boss fight in 3, if anything so people wouldn't mind that much about how meh the mechanic was behind it.

It's the artifact the Doomslayer retrieves in Doom 2016 and which Hayden snatches from him in the final scene.

Heh, you're right. The blade looked so familiar.

I think it's gonna be perhaps a sword that you can only use to kill certain enemies, because perhaps they're immune to conventional weaponry. So maybe that boss fight, and some others you have to take out the sword and melee them to death, and it's not gonna be a thing you'll be using normally. Or it may indeed work perhaps like the power up or the chainsaw, maybe you find a "battery for the sword" at random in certain maps and you can use it for a limited amount of time/kills to murder some demons also.