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Post by Sonashii on Dec 31, 2017 12:15:14 GMT
It wasn't my idea actually. I saw this in one thread, where people were joking about this combo on platinum. So I decided to check it out myself. But I invited you to this brilliance, that's correct. Also the very first few seconds always crack me up, when I hear your Volus screaming: ENEMY!! *3 seconds later* Suit's damaged!That was a good hint about this game right there We should repeat this on Prime Evil. Who's up?
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Post by vastator on Dec 31, 2017 12:44:28 GMT
That was a good hint about this game right there We should repeat this on Prime Evil. Who's up?
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Dec 31, 2017 13:36:06 GMT
Well, I put Proxy Mine on the GI. And am still using the Javelin. The GI went from a moderately fun class without Proxy Mine to an "OMG this guy is a killing machine wtf." I don't need to tell you guys this, but proxy mine helped A LOT. Like this makes Phantoms a literal joke. I can add this to the list of characters alongside Cerberus Adept, Fury, and Shadow as character that I have no problem dealing with Phantoms even on host. And q5tyhj, I generally tend to use Cyclonic Mod for him. But the thing is, with proxy mine, this is the most stealthy I have been with an Infiltrator next to the Shadow. I am generally stealthy with infiltrators (as they should be), but I tend to do the best with the Shadow based on how I built her. But I rarely got put into tight spots thanks to Proxy Mine and playing smart. Also, I noticed with the Javelin, I tend to miss a lot of shots at the start of the round, but as I get used to it, I build some kind of rhythm and I hit shots that even surprise me. I don't know how to explain it. But thanks Urizen for that build. I copied it and it works amazingly. If BSN was The Ramones, it's at this point that I could confidently pronounce, " Gabba-gabba, we accept you, we accept you, one of us!" I seriously doubt if there's anyone here (or anyone who has ever played the game) who hasn't experienced that feeling. The same can almost be said for the Crusader (and even the Kishock), but the Javelin really is in a different league. Thwump.
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Post by Arkhne on Dec 31, 2017 13:49:23 GMT
Well, I put Proxy Mine on the GI. And am still using the Javelin. The GI went from a moderately fun class without Proxy Mine to an "OMG this guy is a killing machine wtf." I don't need to tell you guys this, but proxy mine helped A LOT. Like this makes Phantoms a literal joke. I can add this to the list of characters alongside Cerberus Adept, Fury, and Shadow as character that I have no problem dealing with Phantoms even on host. And q5tyhj, I generally tend to use Cyclonic Mod for him. But the thing is, with proxy mine, this is the most stealthy I have been with an Infiltrator next to the Shadow. I am generally stealthy with infiltrators (as they should be), but I tend to do the best with the Shadow based on how I built her. But I rarely got put into tight spots thanks to Proxy Mine and playing smart. Also, I noticed with the Javelin, I tend to miss a lot of shots at the start of the round, but as I get used to it, I build some kind of rhythm and I hit shots that even surprise me. I don't know how to explain it. But thanks Urizen for that build. I copied it and it works amazingly. If BSN was The Ramones, it's at this point that I could confidently pronounce, " Gabba-gabba, we accept you, we accept you, one of us!" I seriously doubt if there's anyone here (or anyone who has ever played the game) who hasn't experienced that feeling. The same can almost be said for the Crusader (and even the Kishock), but the Javelin really is in a different league. Thwump. Yesterday, I did a few more Sniper solos, for fun. Viper InfiDrell was better than I expected, actually enjoyed it more than Javelin (Apparently I cannot Javelin anymore, used to GI Jav a fair bit, but can't seem to use it any more). Widow is still my favourite of my currently unlocked guns on PC (Need a Valiant, dammit!).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 14:32:56 GMT
Well, I put Proxy Mine on the GI. And am still using the Javelin. The GI went from a moderately fun class without Proxy Mine to an "OMG this guy is a killing machine wtf." I don't need to tell you guys this, but proxy mine helped A LOT. Like this makes Phantoms a literal joke. I can add this to the list of characters alongside Cerberus Adept, Fury, and Shadow as character that I have no problem dealing with Phantoms even on host. And q5tyhj, I generally tend to use Cyclonic Mod for him. But the thing is, with proxy mine, this is the most stealthy I have been with an Infiltrator next to the Shadow. I am generally stealthy with infiltrators (as they should be), but I tend to do the best with the Shadow based on how I built her. But I rarely got put into tight spots thanks to Proxy Mine and playing smart. Also, I noticed with the Javelin, I tend to miss a lot of shots at the start of the round, but as I get used to it, I build some kind of rhythm and I hit shots that even surprise me. I don't know how to explain it. But thanks Urizen for that build. I copied it and it works amazingly. If BSN was The Ramones, it's at this point that I could confidently pronounce, " Gabba-gabba, we accept you, we accept you, one of us!" I seriously doubt if there's anyone here (or anyone who has ever played the game) who hasn't experienced that feeling. The same can almost be said for the Crusader (and even the Kishock), but the Javelin really is in a different league. Thwump. Honestly the javelin is the big boy pants of the sniper rifles
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Post by Vormav on Dec 31, 2017 16:42:15 GMT
Yesterday I did some experiments and just put a Javelin or Black Widow on every kit I played. Quarian Engineer? Give the lady a Javelin. Human Engineer? He gets one as well. Asasi Adept? Why not try a Black Widow... BW TSol and Javelin HSol were two distressingly good finds from similar experimentation. I seem to recall that stasis snipers used to be a thing... could never bring myself to do it, though.
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Post by Arkhne on Dec 31, 2017 16:52:30 GMT
Yesterday I did some experiments and just put a Javelin or Black Widow on every kit I played. Quarian Engineer? Give the lady a Javelin. Human Engineer? He gets one as well. Asasi Adept? Why not try a Black Widow... BW TSol and Javelin HSol were two distressingly good finds from similar experimentation. I seem to recall that stasis snipers used to be a thing... could never bring myself to do it, though. Early on in my Platinum days, I often ran Harrier+Widow HSol, double-tapping is just as nice with a Sniper as it is with a Shotgun As to Stasis Sniping, for me, it was more about triggering Warp Ammo, with enough cooldown bonus, Black Widow also synergizes perfectly with AA's Warp+Throw combo on Bosses, it is insane how much damage Warp+3xWarp IV Black Widow Shots+Throw+Biotic Explosion does. You start LOOKING for the biggest enemies, because it's more satisfying when you can drop a Banshee as fast as a Marauder (Stupid Shield Gate). Stasis usually ends up as a utility power on that build (at least for me), not as an I-Win-Headshot button. And I suspect any well-play Black Widow Asari Adept is more based around Warp Debuff than Stasis sniping. Unlike Arc Pistol AA's who seem to focus on stasis Sniping
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Post by obbie1984 on Dec 31, 2017 21:26:55 GMT
Well, I put Proxy Mine on the GI. And am still using the Javelin. The GI went from a moderately fun class without Proxy Mine to an "OMG this guy is a killing machine wtf." I don't need to tell you guys this, but proxy mine helped A LOT. Like this makes Phantoms a literal joke. I can add this to the list of characters alongside Cerberus Adept, Fury, and Shadow as character that I have no problem dealing with Phantoms even on host. And q5tyhj, I generally tend to use Cyclonic Mod for him. But the thing is, with proxy mine, this is the most stealthy I have been with an Infiltrator next to the Shadow. I am generally stealthy with infiltrators (as they should be), but I tend to do the best with the Shadow based on how I built her. But I rarely got put into tight spots thanks to Proxy Mine and playing smart. Also, I noticed with the Javelin, I tend to miss a lot of shots at the start of the round, but as I get used to it, I build some kind of rhythm and I hit shots that even surprise me. I don't know how to explain it. But thanks Urizen for that build. I copied it and it works amazingly. If BSN was The Ramones, it's at this point that I could confidently pronounce, " Gabba-gabba, we accept you, we accept you, one of us!" I seriously doubt if there's anyone here (or anyone who has ever played the game) who hasn't experienced that feeling. The same can almost be said for the Crusader (and even the Kishock), but the Javelin really is in a different league. Thwump. LOL, thanks. Yeah, especially with eye strain mode on the Geth its really hard to sometimes hit shots, especially if you are trying to snap on to targets quickly. And yes, I experienced the same thing on the Crusader/Fury. I didn't use the Crusader much before hand, but it was a similar experience with that gun as well. Now I love that friggin' gun.
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 2, 2018 5:18:51 GMT
So I wanted to try a pistol only Fury build. I am debating between the Talon, Carnifex, Paladin, and the suppressed gun. I want to run the Paladin the most but I know the Talon will be most effective. I am using heavy barrel and power damage magnifier as mods. I tried the Talon and Paladin. The Talon was a little boring, but I liked the power and range of the Paladin, but 3 round magazine kind of sucks. Any suggestions from you guys?
Also, the first new build I tried this years is the Shadow as a sniper. She was really fun this way for a few games, but I really missed cutting people and doing tons of damage with Shadow Strike and stealth melee.
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Post by Silvershroud on Jan 2, 2018 5:41:11 GMT
Like you said, the Talon is certainly the most effective. Are you trying to play a typical close-quarters Fury? Personally, I'm not a fan of the Paladin for that. I usually use the Eagle when I want a pistol for close-quarters and don't feel like using the Talon. Not necessarily the BEST option, but it does work quite well, and I enjoy it.
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 2, 2018 6:13:58 GMT
As odd as this sounds, I don't care about effective. It has to be fun. If the gun is fun, I can make it work with the Fury. And I would like a versatile Fury. Its why Crusader/Fury is my favorite build. The Crusader doubles as a shotgun and a marksman rifle. So its good up close and even mid/longer ranges. Its good against the standard enemies and the bosses. Also even if its a bit heavy, the cooldowns on her powers aren't really an issue, so I can still go in if I want. And attractive woman with shotgun makes me a happy Obbie. I would like the pistol to function the same way. The Talon functions best up close. And I am not a huge fan of the Eagle. I also didn't like the M-11. It felt like a pea shooter. The Carnifex and Paladin were the most fun, but I do agree it is awkward up close. Maybe I just don't have enough experience with it.
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Post by Vormav on Jan 2, 2018 10:36:57 GMT
As odd as this sounds, I don't care about effective. It has to be fun. If the gun is fun, I can make it work with the Fury. And I would like a versatile Fury. Its why Crusader/Fury is my favorite build. The Crusader doubles as a shotgun and a marksman rifle. So its good up close and even mid/longer ranges. Its good against the standard enemies and the bosses. Also even if its a bit heavy, the cooldowns on her powers aren't really an issue, so I can still go in if I want. And attractive woman with shotgun makes me a happy Obbie. I would like the pistol to function the same way. The Talon functions best up close. And I am not a huge fan of the Eagle. I also didn't like the M-11. It felt like a pea shooter. The Carnifex and Paladin were the most fun, but I do agree it is awkward up close. Maybe I just don't have enough experience with it. If you're determined to use a pistol, have you tried the Executioner? With innate (but minimal) piercing you could use it with your desired pistol mods without needing AP or drill ammo to clear a guardian's shield, and with warp ammo it'd be pretty effective on her. The only issue would be following up a shot immediately with a power... the kick could throw you off target. It's no Talon, but it does pack a decent punch while still being fairly accurate at range. Of course, there's also the Arc pistol, but I like to have piercing and with the heavy barrel and power amp that rules out warp ammo (for me). Because, similar to what Arkhne was saying above with the AA, having warp ammo and a heavy hitting weapon on a class that can prime/detonate biotic explosions is pretty nice.
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 2, 2018 12:15:12 GMT
I will give Dark Channel and Paladin a specific mention here, and Paladin is my main weapon on the Huntress on PS3. I find Dark Channel one of the best headtshot powers, right up there with Sabotage. Even better is that it primes for Warp IV, and a Warp IV Paladin headshot will drop an any unshielded mook on any difficulty. It also works just as well on other Dark Channel characters, however, on those, I usually take Piercing+Magazine or Piercing+Barrel on lower difficulties, but on the Huntress, it's Power Mag + Piercing, and yeah, the 3 rounds is tough, you have to make the shots count. I do, however, find it a very satisfying combo. Executioner kinda works the same way, as Vormav suggested, but with innate piercing. Executioner makes a decent Pocket Sniper, and can really wreck shop vs mooks. However, after playing a 2-shot Executioner with the Destroyer, I find it difficult to use the Executioner on anything else, it just feels... less OP Arc Pistol is always a good choice, the charged shot is actually 3 shots, so it handled Shield Gate really nicely. It can be annoying to constantly charge, but it is light, has a big clipsize, and packs a punch when charged, with high fire-rate when used as a semi-auto. Definitely a versatile option. The Carnifex is a good balance between the Phalanx (one of the strongest early-manifest weapons) and the Paladin, where the Phalanx has fire-rate, the Carnifex has damage. Where the Paladon one-shot-kills, the Carnifex handles shield-gate better (more rapid firing). Personally, I use SMGs on her, but of the guns listed, I'd probably use the Carnifex. Dark Channel Headshots should still really hurt them, but the fire-rate isn't that low that I'd feel defenseless if I miss.
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Jan 2, 2018 16:17:35 GMT
As odd as this sounds, I don't care about effective. It has to be fun. If the gun is fun, I can make it work with the Fury. And I would like a versatile Fury. Its why Crusader/Fury is my favorite build. The Crusader doubles as a shotgun and a marksman rifle. So its good up close and even mid/longer ranges. Its good against the standard enemies and the bosses. Also even if its a bit heavy, the cooldowns on her powers aren't really an issue, so I can still go in if I want. And attractive woman with shotgun makes me a happy Obbie. I would like the pistol to function the same way. The Talon functions best up close. And I am not a huge fan of the Eagle. I also didn't like the M-11. It felt like a pea shooter. The Carnifex and Paladin were the most fun, but I do agree it is awkward up close. Maybe I just don't have enough experience with it. I don't have much to add to what the others have said. For me, I recognize the damage output of the Hurricane but I don't really like it, and so the Fury works best with a Tempest, at least when I'm hosting. As such the Eagle would be the pistol most similar in style. I still think I'd prefer the Carnifex if I wanted to use a pistol, though I might try the Executioner after reading the recommendation. Off-host though, that would be about the worst option I can think of for a frantic approach, which I tend to favour with her. As for the Eagle in general, it's a bit of a cliche to say it, but the path to Nirvana is the one marked 'TSol' - he really melts everything with it. And the Suppressor? Well, you can never really consider yourself a proud Scrub with a capital S until you've paired it with the Asari Adept. She is literally the only character I use it on, scoped with a full headshot spec, with a Locust as backup for running out of ammo or Bosses with no heads. I'd swap the Locust for a CSMG if playing Plat. Stasis + double tap Suppressor = dead Phantom = Happy Grunt. 20 Headshot Medals (guaranteed) = Ecstatic Grunt.
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Post by XCPTNL on Jan 2, 2018 17:18:59 GMT
Question is: why do you want to use a pistol if you are very happy with the Crusader loadout? I play the Huntress with a Crusader. Recently I tried using a Paladin instead and it was horrible. Tried the Saber and it was also horrible. These guns just kinda feel like bad Crusaders to me. Crusader is an awesome weapon and if you like it and the combo works well for I'd say stick with it. Other than that the only recommendation I can give you is switching through all the possible candidates and try them vs. the various factions.
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Post by larsdt on Jan 2, 2018 21:41:16 GMT
Just some tidbits from a scrub perspective...
Crusader vs. pistols: Besides the weight issue it's usually a question whether I want the power amp equipped or not. IIRC biotic/tech combos do not benefit from power amps so the Crusader is fine on the Fury.
Talon vs. ranged pistols: There are times during a game when you want/are forced to deal with enemies at longer range, like on objectives. The trade-off for range is the Talon's bonus against shields.
Saber, Paladin and Carnifex: Don't know if it's just a gut feeling or some game mechanic support this, but they seem to be a bit iffy off-host? They have that similar cross-hair animation. I think we have discussed the Saber here on the forum before...
I like the Mantis on the Asari Adept. With the extended barrel and vanilla piercing mod, I can find a good rhythm between shooting and using her powers. Occasionally I set of a biotic combo but mostly it's warp debuff against armor and stasis on everything else.
I'm quite content with being a scrub but the Arc pistol is a real gitgud motivator. It is mediocre at best if you can't use it but awesome if you have head poppin' skills. Weight glitch, non-UR, regular shots, charged shots for passing the shield gate, shoot while running and shoot even if you're stunned. AP/Drill ammo.
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Post by DistigousForest on Jan 2, 2018 22:09:40 GMT
Saber, Paladin and Carnifex: Don't know if it's just a gut feeling or some game mechanic support this, but they seem to be a bit iffy off-host? They have that similar cross-hair animation. I think we have discussed the Saber here on the forum before...I remember talking about this before, but it's worth a mention again. It's basically the same for all of the odd (expanded?) crosshair weapons like the Paladin and Carnifex, even the Raider, but it's most noticable on the Saber. It's the bloom. If you don't have an accuracy increasing power you can't really fire it at it's max rate as the bullet can hit anywhere in the crosshair. The faster you shoot the more the crosshair expands (blooms) making it more inaccurate at high RoF. It'll also expand if you are moving, especially straffing, while shooting making the accuracy issues even more noticable. It's basically more RNG. It's very (see: eerily) similar to Halo 4's DMR, save the crosshair and a little less bloom due to smaller hitboxes/targets in Halo. Shotguns work the same to an extent, but the pellets can hit anywhere inside the circle when you ADS. I'm not entirely sure how it works when firing from the hip, but that seems more accurate for whatever reason, has anyone ever looked (cared) into that? The Crusader is awesome because it's laser accurate, doesn't suffer any bloom, and hits like a truck; give me that over a Power Mag any day.
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Post by Urizen on Jan 2, 2018 23:00:32 GMT
I'm not entirely sure how it works when firing from the hip, but that seems more accurate for whatever reason, has anyone ever looked (cared) into that? Yes. Most noticeable at range. Less so up close.
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 2, 2018 23:40:31 GMT
If you're determined to use a pistol, have you tried the Executioner? With innate (but minimal) piercing you could use it with your desired pistol mods without needing AP or drill ammo to clear a guardian's shield, and with warp ammo it'd be pretty effective on her. The only issue would be following up a shot immediately with a power... the kick could throw you off target. It's no Talon, but it does pack a decent punch while still being fairly accurate at range. If you're determined to use a pistol, have you tried the Executioner? With innate (but minimal) piercing you could use it with your desired pistol mods without needing AP or drill ammo to clear a guardian's shield, and with warp ammo it'd be pretty effective on her. The only issue would be following up a shot immediately with a power... the kick could throw you off target. It's no Talon, but it does pack a decent punch while still being fairly accurate at range. I have thought about trying the Executioner. But it is currently at a very low level for me. I'll give this a try later tonight, but I'm not sure I want to "main" the gun for her. This will sound dumb, but the Executioner is a very ugly looking gun. Aesthetics in the gun matter to me. That's why I like the Crusader, Paladin, and Carnifex. They all look really sleek and nice. But I will still try this gun regardless. I will give Dark Channel and Paladin a specific mention here, and Paladin is my main weapon on the Huntress on PS3. I find Dark Channel one of the best headtshot powers, right up there with Sabotage. Even better is that it primes for Warp IV, and a Warp IV Paladin headshot will drop an any unshielded mook on any difficulty. It also works just as well on other Dark Channel characters, however, on those, I usually take Piercing+Magazine or Piercing+Barrel on lower difficulties, but on the Huntress, it's Power Mag + Piercing, and yeah, the 3 rounds is tough, you have to make the shots count. I do, however, find it a very satisfying combo. I will give Dark Channel and Paladin a specific mention here, and Paladin is my main weapon on the Huntress on PS3. I find Dark Channel one of the best headtshot powers, right up there with Sabotage. Even better is that it primes for Warp IV, and a Warp IV Paladin headshot will drop an any unshielded mook on any difficulty. It also works just as well on other Dark Channel characters, however, on those, I usually take Piercing+Magazine or Piercing+Barrel on lower difficulties, but on the Huntress, it's Power Mag + Piercing, and yeah, the 3 rounds is tough, you have to make the shots count. I do, however, find it a very satisfying combo. Yes, this is what I noticed too. The Paladin is a great headshot pistol. Dark Channel was an easy headshot set up and against groups, this is a great tactic. I just wasn't able to convey what you said so well on here. I might actually add the magazine upgrade myself or the piercing mod as you said. But since used Warp ammo frequently with the Fury, I don't know if armor piercing is really needed. I'll have to experiment and see what I like. Magazine upgrade or piercing mod.
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 2, 2018 23:45:51 GMT
As odd as this sounds, I don't care about effective. It has to be fun. If the gun is fun, I can make it work with the Fury. And I would like a versatile Fury. Its why Crusader/Fury is my favorite build. The Crusader doubles as a shotgun and a marksman rifle. So its good up close and even mid/longer ranges. Its good against the standard enemies and the bosses. Also even if its a bit heavy, the cooldowns on her powers aren't really an issue, so I can still go in if I want. And attractive woman with shotgun makes me a happy Obbie. I would like the pistol to function the same way. The Talon functions best up close. And I am not a huge fan of the Eagle. I also didn't like the M-11. It felt like a pea shooter. The Carnifex and Paladin were the most fun, but I do agree it is awkward up close. Maybe I just don't have enough experience with it. I don't have much to add to what the others have said. For me, I recognize the damage output of the Hurricane but I don't really like it, and so the Fury works best with a Tempest, at least when I'm hosting. As such the Eagle would be the pistol most similar in style. I still think I'd prefer the Carnifex if I wanted to use a pistol, though I might try the Executioner after reading the recommendation. Off-host though, that would be about the worst option I can think of for a frantic approach, which I tend to favour with her. As for the Eagle in general, it's a bit of a cliche to say it, but the path to Nirvana is the one marked 'TSol' - he really melts everything with it. And the Suppressor? Well, you can never really consider yourself a proud Scrub with a capital S until you've paired it with the Asari Adept. She is literally the only character I use it on, scoped with a full headshot spec, with a Locust as backup for running out of ammo or Bosses with no heads. I'd swap the Locust for a CSMG if playing Plat. Stasis + double tap Suppressor = dead Phantom = Happy Grunt. 20 Headshot Medals (guaranteed) = Ecstatic Grunt. The Hurricane/Fury is actually really boring to me now. Even if Fury/Hurricane/Acolyte was my first Gold I ever did. I don't like using SMGs with her in general. It feels too "standard" if that makes sense. The few Fury players I see always seem to run SMGs on her. And I think before I knew you were a BSN member, I saw someone join my game and run that EXACT Asari Adept setup. I'm pretty sure it was you actually. And you were dropping Phantoms like flies and you did get your 20 headshot medal if I remember right.
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 2, 2018 23:49:45 GMT
Question is: why do you want to use a pistol if you are very happy with the Crusader loadout? I play the Huntress with a Crusader. Recently I tried using a Paladin instead and it was horrible. Tried the Saber and it was also horrible. These guns just kinda feel like bad Crusaders to me. Crusader is an awesome weapon and if you like it and the combo works well for I'd say stick with it. Other than that the only recommendation I can give you is switching through all the possible candidates and try them vs. the various factions. Mainly for variety really. Any build can get boring if you keep using it over and over. Plus, I want to try different builds for this girl and see if I can get them to work. The Crusader will be my main weapons for her. Also, not so long ago, I was already getting bored of MP. Gold can become monotonous at times. And I'm not yet good enough to tackle platinum alone (I get as far as wave 6 before I lose). And when i do host platinum, I get some of the most inept team-mates imaginable. Its no fun for me to carry some of these players. Trying different builds, weapons, and loadouts has breathed new life into MP for me again. Its made some classes I initially thought boring to be really fun now. Most recent one being Geth Infiltrator with Proxy Mine thanks to you guys.
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 3, 2018 1:19:56 GMT
If you want some weird build ideas, I'd be more than happy to introduce you to my little garden of blasphemy, full of blooming special little flowers that make BSNer's eyes bulge and twitch. Or, I can give serious build ideas, up to you, but I love making and discussing builds, it's what do, in any game. ME3MP just has one of the best setups for it. And if you play on PC, wavelist mods are a thing, I mostly only play modded wavelists these days, because I've already spent about 2k hours fighting the usual setups (including quite a bit of Platinum), I like the variations possible.
My standard mod includes a no-sync-killers Sniping set, enemy trolling players set, abombs set, and a Reapers Revenge (I will totally trademark this) set that turns them from lol-ez to tough as guts (When Docsteely and I duoed it last - on Silver, and even then, nukes were needed on both Wave 6 and Wave 10).
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 3, 2018 4:58:00 GMT
As odd as this sounds, I don't care about effective. It has to be fun. If the gun is fun, I can make it work with the Fury. And I would like a versatile Fury. Its why Crusader/Fury is my favorite build. The Crusader doubles as a shotgun and a marksman rifle. So its good up close and even mid/longer ranges. Its good against the standard enemies and the bosses. Also even if its a bit heavy, the cooldowns on her powers aren't really an issue, so I can still go in if I want. And attractive woman with shotgun makes me a happy Obbie. I would like the pistol to function the same way. The Talon functions best up close. And I am not a huge fan of the Eagle. I also didn't like the M-11. It felt like a pea shooter. The Carnifex and Paladin were the most fun, but I do agree it is awkward up close. Maybe I just don't have enough experience with it. For me the Carnifex is the most fun pistol (probably for ME2 nostalgia reasons, at least partially), with Paladin and Talon close behind. The Arc Peestol is super effective, but isn't quite as fun for me as the Carnifex/Paladin/Talon. Same goes for the Acolyte and the Scorpion (effective, but not quite as entertaining). I actually really like the Suppressor, but its ammo issues are just brutal so I almost never use it. Might be viable on the Fury though since you're going to be getting alot of kills with your powers and so aren't consuming ammo as quickly. Executioner is solid, both fun and effective (offhost can be sort of brutal though, like Grunt mentioned), and innate piercing is always a plus. I wouldn't bother with the Power Magnifier mod personally, since power damage boost is calculated from the base damage of the power, and both AF and DC have small base damage totals (its sort of the same deal as the Cyclonic/base shields thing I mentioned to you before)- you probably get more mileage out of either the Heavy (damage) Barrel, the Magazine mod, or the Piercing mod. But at the end of the day, everything is still just better with a shotgun.
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 3, 2018 7:05:59 GMT
If you want some weird build ideas, I'd be more than happy to introduce you to my little garden of blasphemy, full of blooming special little flowers that make BSNer's eyes bulge and twitch. Or, I can give serious build ideas, up to you, but I love making and discussing builds, it's what do, in any game. ME3MP just has one of the best setups for it. And if you play on PC, wavelist mods are a thing, I mostly only play modded wavelists these days, because I've already spent about 2k hours fighting the usual setups (including quite a bit of Platinum), I like the variations possible. My standard mod includes a no-sync-killers Sniping set, enemy trolling players set, abombs set, and a Reapers Revenge (I will totally trademark this) set that turns them from lol-ez to tough as guts (When Docsteely and I duoed it last - on Silver, and even then, nukes were needed on both Wave 6 and Wave 10). Sure please share them if you don't mind. Either goofy or serious are fine. I am totally open to anything actually, There are some characters I just don't find fun at all but they are actually maybe 3 in the whole game I just don't like. Though I like Engineers, two of them are the Talon Mercenary and the Turian. The Talon is ridiculously good, but I just find him boring because of how easily he can decimate everything. And unless I am not seeing something, the Turian Engineer is just awful. And I play on 360, so no mods for me. But those do sound amazing. Kind of reminds me of the Resident Evil 5 Mercenaries mods (I'm a huge RE fan) where you can do similar things with your mods. And on a side note, I lied. The Shadow with a sniper build is actually amazing and really fun. I re built her again so I have high sniper damage and melee damage as well. She ends up being a little unsafe if I got in, but still super effective from all ranges.
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 3, 2018 7:13:12 GMT
As odd as this sounds, I don't care about effective. It has to be fun. If the gun is fun, I can make it work with the Fury. And I would like a versatile Fury. Its why Crusader/Fury is my favorite build. The Crusader doubles as a shotgun and a marksman rifle. So its good up close and even mid/longer ranges. Its good against the standard enemies and the bosses. Also even if its a bit heavy, the cooldowns on her powers aren't really an issue, so I can still go in if I want. And attractive woman with shotgun makes me a happy Obbie. I would like the pistol to function the same way. The Talon functions best up close. And I am not a huge fan of the Eagle. I also didn't like the M-11. It felt like a pea shooter. The Carnifex and Paladin were the most fun, but I do agree it is awkward up close. Maybe I just don't have enough experience with it. For me the Carnifex is the most fun pistol (probably for ME2 nostalgia reasons, at least partially), with Paladin and Talon close behind. The Arc Peestol is super effective, but isn't quite as fun for me as the Carnifex/Paladin/Talon. Same goes for the Acolyte and the Scorpion (effective, but not quite as entertaining). I actually really like the Suppressor, but its ammo issues are just brutal so I almost never use it. Might be viable on the Fury though since you're going to be getting alot of kills with your powers and so aren't consuming ammo as quickly. Executioner is solid, both fun and effective (offhost can be sort of brutal though, like Grunt mentioned), and innate piercing is always a plus. I wouldn't bother with the Power Magnifier mod personally, since power damage boost is calculated from the base damage of the power, and both AF and DC have small base damage totals (its sort of the same deal as the Cyclonic/base shields thing I mentioned to you before)- you probably get more mileage out of either the Heavy (damage) Barrel, the Magazine mod, or the Piercing mod. But at the end of the day, everything is still just better with a shotgun. It also helps that the Carnifex is a sexy looking gun too. I like the Talon a lot, but I just don't like it for my Fury for some reason. I gave it the old college try and I ended up trying pretty much all the pistols for the Fury between the last few days. Paladin and Carnifex are still my favorite. I think I prefer the Paladin a tad more (with heavy barrel and dropped power magnifier as you said for magazine upgrade). This gun also makes Phantoms and some of the bosses not to hard to deal with. The Suppressor was ok. But I remember a while back someone mentioned that the Reegar isn't a legitimate shotgun because it sounds like a punk. To me the suppressor is the same. I know its supposed to be quiet but it doesn't feel powerful, but it was okay overall. I've used the Acolyte for so long on several classes that I am really trying to avoid using it as much as possible. The Arc Pistol is aight, but I don't want a charge weapon for her anymore. I used the Venom/Acolyte on her long enough. But yeah, I am actually really liking the Fury with just a Paladin. I went up against all the factions with it and its a headshot machine with Dark Channel, and its helpful against near everything. And can't argue with that, shotguns makes everything better.
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