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Post by mordokai on Jan 3, 2018 7:48:11 GMT
As odd as this sounds, I don't care about effective. It has to be fun. If the gun is fun, I can make it work with the Fury. And I would like a versatile Fury. Its why Crusader/Fury is my favorite build. The Crusader doubles as a shotgun and a marksman rifle. So its good up close and even mid/longer ranges. Its good against the standard enemies and the bosses. Also even if its a bit heavy, the cooldowns on her powers aren't really an issue, so I can still go in if I want. And attractive woman with shotgun makes me a happy Obbie. I would like the pistol to function the same way. The Talon functions best up close. And I am not a huge fan of the Eagle. I also didn't like the M-11. It felt like a pea shooter. The Carnifex and Paladin were the most fun, but I do agree it is awkward up close. Maybe I just don't have enough experience with it. I don't have much to add to what the others have said. For me, I recognize the damage output of the Hurricane but I don't really like it, and so the Fury works best with a Tempest, at least when I'm hosting. As such the Eagle would be the pistol most similar in style. I still think I'd prefer the Carnifex if I wanted to use a pistol, though I might try the Executioner after reading the recommendation. Off-host though, that would be about the worst option I can think of for a frantic approach, which I tend to favour with her. As for the Eagle in general, it's a bit of a cliche to say it, but the path to Nirvana is the one marked 'TSol' - he really melts everything with it. And the Suppressor? Well, you can never really consider yourself a proud Scrub with a capital S until you've paired it with the Asari Adept. She is literally the only character I use it on, scoped with a full headshot spec, with a Locust as backup for running out of ammo or Bosses with no heads. I'd swap the Locust for a CSMG if playing Plat. Stasis + double tap Suppressor = dead Phantom = Happy Grunt. 20 Headshot Medals (guaranteed) = Ecstatic Grunt. AA is good, but Tsent is even better, since you have to actually *work* for your 20 HS medal. I consider it a mark of personal honor to get 20 HS medal with Tsent when wielding Suppressor. Well, I consider it a mark of personal honor to get 20 HS with *any* weapon when using any of the fat turians, but especially so with this combo.
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Post by Vormav on Jan 3, 2018 10:10:30 GMT
Just going to leave this here for no particular reason.
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Post by Dovahkiin N7 on Jan 3, 2018 10:50:26 GMT
I will give Dark Channel and Paladin a specific mention here, and Paladin is my main weapon on the Huntress on PS3. I find Dark Channel one of the best headtshot powers, right up there with Sabotage. Even better is that it primes for Warp IV, and a Warp IV Paladin headshot will drop an any unshielded mook on any difficulty. It also works just as well on other Dark Channel characters, however, on those, I usually take Piercing+Magazine or Piercing+Barrel on lower difficulties, but on the Huntress, it's Power Mag + Piercing, and yeah, the 3 rounds is tough, you have to make the shots count. I do, however, find it a very satisfying combo. Executioner kinda works the same way, as Vormav suggested, but with innate piercing. Executioner makes a decent Pocket Sniper, and can really wreck shop vs mooks. However, after playing a 2-shot Executioner with the Destroyer, I find it difficult to use the Executioner on anything else, it just feels... less OP Arc Pistol is always a good choice, the charged shot is actually 3 shots, so it handled Shield Gate really nicely. It can be annoying to constantly charge, but it is light, has a big clipsize, and packs a punch when charged, with high fire-rate when used as a semi-auto. Definitely a versatile option. The Carnifex is a good balance between the Phalanx (one of the strongest early-manifest weapons) and the Paladin, where the Phalanx has fire-rate, the Carnifex has damage. Where the Paladon one-shot-kills, the Carnifex handles shield-gate better (more rapid firing). Personally, I use SMGs on her, but of the guns listed, I'd probably use the Carnifex. Dark Channel Headshots should still really hurt them, but the fire-rate isn't that low that I'd feel defenseless if I miss. Don’t your Huntress scream “I need the high lord. Now!”?
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Post by DistigousForest on Jan 3, 2018 12:19:40 GMT
To me the suppressor is the same. I know its supposed to be quiet but it doesn't feel powerful That's because it's not overly powerful unless you're getting that sweet headshot bonus, then it's pretty damn good. However, you'll be humping an ammo box as much as a Harrier user. Don’t your Huntress scream “I need the high lord. Now!”? Personally my Huntress will never use anything other than the Crusader. I love the High Lord, but it's got nothing on the Crusader Huntress. obbie1984 I've posted these before, but here are some melee, and others, kits I like. Not odd per se, but fun and sometimes frustrating: Siege Pulse JuggIceslinger Plat build, avenger for gold. Acolyte is your main; this kit obliterates Barriers BF3 Soldier You can do massive amounts of burst damage with this kit. If you want to cheese it a little take Incendiary ammo Melee HAMelee Vorcha HunterMelee Valkyrie. I usually went with Cryo Acolyte, Venom courtesy of Qui-Gon GlenN7 KroSent I'm sure people don't like my Lift Nade, no Incinerate, but oh well. BatSent If I wasn't lazy this is what I would respec him to, but he's one of my go to kits for UUP so I don't waste the respec card. As it stands: Gold build, Plat buildThere's always the melee GI also
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Post by Dovahkiin N7 on Jan 3, 2018 12:23:28 GMT
To me the suppressor is the same. I know its supposed to be quiet but it doesn't feel powerful That's because it's not overly powerful unless you're getting that sweet headshot bonus, then it's pretty damn good. However, you'll be humping an ammo box as much as a Harrier user. Don’t your Huntress scream “I need the high lord. Now!”? Personally my Huntress will never use anything other than the Crusader. I love the High Lord, but it's got nothing on the Crusader Huntress. obbie1984 I've posted these before, but here are some melee, and others, kits I like. Not odd per se, but fun and sometimes frustrating: Siege Pulse JuggIceslinger Plat build, avenger for gold. Acolyte is your main; this kit obliterates Barriers BF3 Soldier You can do massive amounts of burst damage with this kit. If you want to cheese it a little take Incendiary ammo Melee HAMelee Vorcha HunterMelee Valkyrie. I usually went with Cryo Acolyte, Venom courtesy of Qui-Gon GlenN7 KroSent I'm sure people don't like my Lift Nade, no Incinerate, but oh well. BatSent If I wasn't lazy this is what I would respec him to, but he's one of my go to kits for UUP so I don't waste the respec card. As it stands: Gold build, Plat buildThere's always the melee GI also Crusader Huntress is a beast. It is my to go solo kit. Offhost? Crusader can be weird.
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Post by XCPTNL on Jan 3, 2018 14:04:13 GMT
Mainly for variety really. Any build can get boring if you keep using it over and over. Plus, I want to try different builds for this girl and see if I can get them to work. The Crusader will be my main weapons for her. I can understand that even though for me personally it's not an issue because I can pretty much play the same few kits and weapons all the time. I sometimes experiment a little but that usually doesn't go so well and I stick to the setups I know and love. Maybe sometimes switching weapon mods/ammo and so on. But I guess I am like that in many/most games I have played in my lifetime. It's the same with kits: I am never comfortable with tanky characters that are usually slow and not very agile. I still give some of them a chance but in the end I always prefer agility, fast movement and high damage output and feel much more comfortable with that style. Don’t your Huntress scream “I need the high lord. Now!”? Mine did in the beginning and it worked out well but the Crusader works even better in this particular case. Crusader Huntress is a beast. It is my to go solo kit. Offhost? Crusader can be weird. Have you applied the Crusader fix? I can't recall having much problems offhost with the Crusader. I remember talking about this before, but it's worth a mention again. It's basically the same for all of the odd (expanded?) crosshair weapons like the Paladin and Carnifex, even the Raider, but it's most noticable on the Saber. It's the bloom. If you don't have an accuracy increasing power you can't really fire it at it's max rate as the bullet can hit anywhere in the crosshair. The faster you shoot the more the crosshair expands (blooms) making it more inaccurate at high RoF. It'll also expand if you are moving, especially straffing, while shooting making the accuracy issues even more noticable. It's basically more RNG. It's very (see: eerily) similar to Halo 4's DMR, save the crosshair and a little less bloom due to smaller hitboxes/targets in Halo. Shotguns work the same to an extent, but the pellets can hit anywhere inside the circle when you ADS. I'm not entirely sure how it works when firing from the hip, but that seems more accurate for whatever reason, has anyone ever looked (cared) into that? The Crusader is awesome because it's laser accurate, doesn't suffer any bloom, and hits like a truck; give me that over a Power Mag any day. Probably why I never really liked these weapons and can get them to work properly. I tried again running some kits with the Paladin and Saber and I'm like "I clearly was aiming right at his head, where the fuck did my shot go" - often happens totally up close and you feel like a complete moron when you can't kill that single husk with a full Saber magazine because the bullets are somewhere off to LaLaLand instead of where I aimed at. I feel like these weapons are very unreliable and - as I said before - feel like a bad Crusader knockoff in AR and pistol shape to me.
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Jan 3, 2018 15:03:13 GMT
(Edit: Messed up the quote, but I'm referring to your KroSent/ Graal Venom build.) That works especially well if one of your Krantt runs around after you and takes out the Guardians with his trusty Claymore, I find. Joking, obviously, it's a beastly build, as I witnessed. I tried it for a while but it doesn't work quite as well with a Graal, so for mostly lore reasons I like this build, although admittedly I usually prefer the Claymore and AP rounds which is less cheesy, especially if I run into one of you guys. The playstyle could best be described by the word 'rampage', and is almost certainly my favourite kit for Gold - Lift Grenades aside it feels like the closest thing to the climax of the SP side mission with Grunt, and by funny coincidence I often suffer from The Munchies while playing it. And mordokai , agreed on the TSent, but that was kinda my point with the AA - even a Scrub like me can manage those Headshots (as remembered by obbie1984 - cheers), and I would say she's the best character for learning how powerful the pea-shooter can actually be. Cheers Vormav for the hearty chuckle your 'no particular reason' post gave me. That's some Spicy Fat Turian Mustard right there.
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 3, 2018 15:11:34 GMT
....I had a writeup on a bunch of builds I put together whilst bored, then firefox crashed, and I remembered why I usually put stuff in notepad first, now I've lost my motivation, will try again later.
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Post by mordokai on Jan 3, 2018 15:14:35 GMT
And mordokai , agreed on the TSent, but that was kinda my point with the AA - even a Scrub like me can manage those Headshots (as remembered by obbie1984 - cheers), and I would say she's the best character for learning how powerful the pea-shooter can actually be. Cheers Vormav for the hearty chuckle your 'no particular reason' post gave me. That's some Spicy Fat Turian Mustard right there. Eh, if you're scrub, what does that make me?
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Jan 3, 2018 15:44:17 GMT
And mordokai , agreed on the TSent, but that was kinda my point with the AA - even a Scrub like me can manage those Headshots (as remembered by obbie1984 - cheers), and I would say she's the best character for learning how powerful the pea-shooter can actually be. Cheers Vormav for the hearty chuckle your 'no particular reason' post gave me. That's some Spicy Fat Turian Mustard right there. Eh, if you're scrub, what does that make me? Haha, says the one of us with a Plat Solo under his belt. I'm a Scrub with a capital S, as I believe we've collectively agreed due to my dependence on Stasis for Headshots. I'd rather be a Scrub than a pyjak, as you know well.
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Post by DistigousForest on Jan 3, 2018 15:45:06 GMT
That works especially well if one of your Krantt runs around after you and takes out the Guardians with his trusty Claymore, I find. I needed someone to take out those pesky Guardians as they were giving me some trouble and are really the only thing that gives him trouble. I used to run the Crusader, but I love the staggering of the Venom so I usually charge shot a group and then go to town with melee. Cerberus is definitely the easiest faction for him too.
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Post by mordokai on Jan 3, 2018 16:19:11 GMT
Eh, if you're scrub, what does that make me? Haha, says the one of us with a Plat Solo under his belt. I'm a Scrub with a capital S, as I believe we've collectively agreed due to my dependence on Stasis for Headshots. I'd rather be a Scrub than a pyjak, as you know well. Eh, I'm still a scrub... just a bit more platiny than you are For the record, yer mah favourite scrub
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 3, 2018 18:53:16 GMT
This is an OP combination that takes consistent aim and some stamina on the trigger finger, but The Shady Engineer made it work like a beast and I have reproduced it... Not as simple as Crusader, but can be more devastating which frankly shocked me- GE weapon build, however you like to build your shooty GE. I recommend 66653 or 46664 or 66660, but hey it's your game too. Equip Sabre with AP and HVB. Go nuts! ... Talon Smashguard has been a lot of fun lately, but hardly new or anything I've discovered. ... Eagle Throwslinger - nothing new, just been fun lately ... I have repeatedly failed being the melee killer I want to be with Melee Vanilla Human Adept. Yet, others make it look hilariously awesome. I wish the Throwslinger had the Adept's heavy melee Everybody brings something different to this game, and it is fun to watch someone kill it in a strange way; also mildly frustrating when you can't make it sing like they did
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 3, 2018 19:01:24 GMT
This is an OP combination that takes consistent aim and some stamina on the trigger finger, but The Shady Engineer made it work like a beast and I have reproduced it... Not as simple as Crusader, but can be more devastating which frankly shocked me- GE weapon build, however you like to build your shooty GE. I recommend 66653 or 46664 or 66660, but hey it's your game too. Equip Sabre with AP and HVB. Go nuts! ... Talon Smashguard has been a lot of fun lately, but hardly new or anything I've discovered. ... Eagle Throwslinger - nothing new, just been fun lately ... I have repeatedly failed being the melee killer I want to be with Melee Vanilla Human Adept. Yet, others make it look hilariously awesome. I wish the Throwslinger had the Adept's heavy melee Everybody brings something different to this game, and it is fun to watch someone kill it in a strange way; also mildly frustrating when you can't make it sing like they did Thanks for mentioning the melee adept, that was one of the ones that I wanted to share earlier. Definitely a hilarious build. Right up there with BatGlove Volus Vanguard (debatable which is better).
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 3, 2018 21:54:11 GMT
But I remember a while back someone mentioned that the Reegar isn't a legitimate shotgun because it sounds like a punk. To me the suppressor is the same. I know its supposed to be quiet but it doesn't feel powerful, but it was okay overall. heh, touché
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Post by MPApr2012 on Jan 4, 2018 4:04:45 GMT
Just going to leave this here for no particular reason. ... I like the Mantis on the Asari Adept. With the extended barrel and vanilla piercing mod, I can find a good rhythm between shooting and using her powers. Occasionally I set of a biotic combo but mostly it's warp debuff against armor and stasis on everything else. Second that, Mantis AA is an immensely fun and rewarding setup. The build is along the same line of thinking of larsdt 's although i like to avoid slapping those ugly looking mods on 'cause aesthetics are imprtant especially so with them classy Blueberries. Here's two more builds for laughs and giggles, - Phalanx AA and Kishock AA. And yeah nah, no need to listen to those dissing Stasis Sniping it still is fun-fun-ffffuuun!
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Just going to leave this here for no particular reason. *laughs in Paladin*
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 4, 2018 18:03:15 GMT
obbie1984 I've posted these before, but here are some melee, and others, kits I like. Not odd per se, but fun and sometimes frustrating: Siege Pulse JuggIceslinger Plat build, avenger for gold. Acolyte is your main; this kit obliterates Barriers BF3 Soldier You can do massive amounts of burst damage with this kit. If you want to cheese it a little take Incendiary ammo Melee HAMelee Vorcha HunterMelee Valkyrie. I usually went with Cryo Acolyte, Venom courtesy of Qui-Gon Glenn KroSent I'm sure people don't like my Lift Nade, no Incinerate, but oh well. BatSent If I wasn't lazy this is what I would respec him to, but he's one of my go to kits for UUP so I don't waste the respec card. As it stands: Gold build, Plat buildThere's always the melee GI also Thanks a lot. I will give some of these a try. I actually ran a similar Krogan Sentinel build as the one you posted. But I am interested in the soldier and vorcha melee build the most. I was kind of hoping someone would post a fun Shadow build. I can't decide how I like her. As a sniper who only occasionally uses her powers or as mainly melee build. Both can be really fun actually.
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 4, 2018 18:11:16 GMT
I can understand that even though for me personally it's not an issue because I can pretty much play the same few kits and weapons all the time. I sometimes experiment a little but that usually doesn't go so well and I stick to the setups I know and love. Maybe sometimes switching weapon mods/ammo and so on. But I guess I am like that in many/most games I have played in my lifetime. It's the same with kits: I am never comfortable with tanky characters that are usually slow and not very agile. I still give some of them a chance but in the end I always prefer agility, fast movement and high damage output and feel much more comfortable with that style. I know what you mean. I am actually like this in fighting games myself. While I like many characters in ME3, I do have a few go to characters that I have the most fun with. As of recently I have been no life-ing the Fury and the Shadow. And yeah, I feel agility and movement can be very important in this game. But I still can't say no to playing characters like the Krogan Warlord Sentinel or Batarian Vanguard. I like playing as tanky characters who can just shrug off hits. I also just wanted to mention, the Paladin/Fury is actually really fun. The gun is a headshot machine and even bosses aren't a huge problem. It also fits a somewhat similar role to the Crusader for me with much faster cool downs. I have it at level 4. Hopefully I can get it a few more times in supply boxes so it will be even better.
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Post by XCPTNL on Jan 5, 2018 17:51:12 GMT
And yeah, I feel agility and movement can be very important in this game. But I still can't say no to playing characters like the Krogan Warlord Sentinel or Batarian Vanguard. I like playing as tanky characters who can just shrug off hits. Krogans and Batarians never appealed to me. I tried them but I'm no good playing them. Not in the way that I totally suck but I don't enjoy it and usually get hugged by a Banshee rather sooner than later. Like I said: it basically applies to all games for me - even back in the days when I played RTS games like "Emperor Battle for Dune" I preferred to play Ordos with their fast moving Laser-Tanks for some fast hit'n'run attack strategies. In shooters with RPG elements I tend to opt for additional movement speed and damage output over tankyness. Even in the latest DOOM game you could modify the gameplay with some additional runes and one of my favorites was the one that gives unlimited ammo as long as you stay above a certain amount of armor. So I could use the gauss rifle extensively and quickly kill a lot of enemies as long as I didn't get hit myself (or at least not drop below the required amount of armor). A lot of fun on higher difficulties because it's high risk high reward. In the Hellgate Global revival some years back I build an Evoker (battle mage) who was rather fragile but very fast and he did crazy amounts of damage with critical hits (and a very high crit chance to go along with it). I guess my motto usually is: if I'm too fast for them to hit me and also kill them quickly I don't need durability.
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Post by monicasubzero on Jan 5, 2018 20:22:43 GMT
Salarian Infiltrator with Kishock.. I really love it. Actually, I love it so much that I will play this character only with the Kishock!
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 6, 2018 22:35:45 GMT
And yeah, I feel agility and movement can be very important in this game. But I still can't say no to playing characters like the Krogan Warlord Sentinel or Batarian Vanguard. I like playing as tanky characters who can just shrug off hits. Krogans and Batarians never appealed to me. I tried them but I'm no good playing them. Not in the way that I totally suck but I don't enjoy it and usually get hugged by a Banshee rather sooner than later. Like I said: it basically applies to all games for me - even back in the days when I played RTS games like "Emperor Battle for Dune" I preferred to play Ordos with their fast moving Laser-Tanks for some fast hit'n'run attack strategies. In shooters with RPG elements I tend to opt for additional movement speed and damage output over tankyness. Even in the latest DOOM game you could modify the gameplay with some additional runes and one of my favorites was the one that gives unlimited ammo as long as you stay above a certain amount of armor. So I could use the gauss rifle extensively and quickly kill a lot of enemies as long as I didn't get hit myself (or at least not drop below the required amount of armor). A lot of fun on higher difficulties because it's high risk high reward. In the Hellgate Global revival some years back I build an Evoker (battle mage) who was rather fragile but very fast and he did crazy amounts of damage with critical hits (and a very high crit chance to go along with it). I guess my motto usually is: if I'm too fast for them to hit me and also kill them quickly I don't need durability. I don't really like any of the Krogan all that much outside of the Warlord. The Batarians are too awesome not to play though. But I do favor mobility as well. Its why I my favorite characters are ones like the Fury, Shadow, Cerberus Adept, and the Drells. But that's a good motto to live by. I haven't played any of those games you mentioned. Though I do have DOOM and need to play it. I wasn't even aware DOOM allowed you to do that actually. I am still thinking DOOM was similar to to DOOM3 which didn't allow much flexibility in terms of how you fought.
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 6, 2018 22:47:12 GMT
The Batarians are not as lacking in mobility as their non-dodge suggests, they have a higher base speed than other races, which means they also gain more from Adrenaline Modules. Sure, they aren't Adrenaline Module Drell, but hey, not everybody can be the fastest, the Batarians are pretty damned close though (surprising, considering their very high health+shield).
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Post by K_O_513 on Jan 7, 2018 5:37:16 GMT
Batarians are very mobile when you account for the distance they can travel while hatefisting.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Jan 7, 2018 7:00:08 GMT
Batarians are very mobile when you account for the distance they can travel while hatefisting. Hatesurfing
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