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Post by DistigousForest on Jan 13, 2018 1:49:43 GMT
Claymoar KroSol is best KroSol. Been running him like that for a long time now. My KroSol build 's damage, particularly anti-armour damage is so high he completely trivializes Gold Reapers in ways that should be illegal. BatSol, as mentioned, is also a very good character, but output wise, Claymoar KroSol is something else. Only ever seen a GI drop stuff faster. Thanks. I'm definitely going to try this build tonight. I have only 3 points in carnage and maxed out rage. That is the only thing different in our builds. But I guess the Carnage really helps against armor as you said. And I know the Batarian Soldier is great. He can steam roll enemies really well. Its just that outside of the Krogan Warlord, I wasn't a big fan of any other Krogan, but I gave Krogan Soldier another shot. He seemed like he was way harder to kill than the Krogan Sentinel. And isn't pretty much every soldier character a decent one outside of maybe Battlefield 3? I mean, the Destroyer, Turian Soldier, and Geth Trooper are all really solid. The Battlefield 3 is a monster too, don't underestimate the burst damage he can do. The routine is Claymore>AR Claymore>Carnage>Frag. Most shit dies very quickly, some people swear by IA, but disruptor gives you a TB and a 6+6 FE instead of a 6+1 and disruptor is better for big boss shield/barriers. Build
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 13, 2018 2:14:33 GMT
Thanks. I'm definitely going to try this build tonight. I have only 3 points in carnage and maxed out rage. That is the only thing different in our builds. But I guess the Carnage really helps against armor as you said. And I know the Batarian Soldier is great. He can steam roll enemies really well. Its just that outside of the Krogan Warlord, I wasn't a big fan of any other Krogan, but I gave Krogan Soldier another shot. He seemed like he was way harder to kill than the Krogan Sentinel. And isn't pretty much every soldier character a decent one outside of maybe Battlefield 3? I mean, the Destroyer, Turian Soldier, and Geth Trooper are all really solid. The Battlefield 3 is a monster too, don't underestimate the burst damage he can do. The routine is Claymore>AR Claymore>Carnage>Frag. Most shit dies very quickly, some people swear by IA, but disruptor gives you a TB and a 6+6 FE instead of a 6+1 and disruptor is better for boss shield/barrier. kalence.weebly.com/me3-builder.html#25!3803565!!34O53334!GDFA.G Alternatively, skip AR and take a Harrier. ( link ) There's 3 HSol's in this game, and I like to keep them all different. I have the Male for Cryo Ammo, the female skips CS and goes for pure weapon/grenade damage (Because women are more badarse), and the BF3 is as above.
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Post by Urizen on Jan 14, 2018 6:39:51 GMT
And isn't pretty much every soldier character a decent one outside of maybe Battlefield 3? Don´t underestimate him. He can kick arse. The Battlefield 3 is a monster too, don't underestimate the burst damage he can do. The routine is Claymore>AR Claymore>Carnage>Frag. Most shit dies very quickly, some people swear by IA, but disruptor gives you a TB and a 6+6 FE instead of a 6+1 and disruptor is better for boss shield/barrier. kalence.weebly.com/me3-builder.html#25!3803565!!34O53334!GDFA.G Build I use: Lancer BF3. Asskicking guaranteed. Alternatively, skip AR and take a Harrier. ( link ) There's 3 HSol's in this game, and I like to keep them all different. I have the Male for Cryo Ammo, the female skips CS and goes for pure weapon/grenade damage (Because women are more badarse), and the BF3 is as above. No AR? Interesting. Will give it a whirl sometime.
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 14, 2018 7:45:30 GMT
And isn't pretty much every soldier character a decent one outside of maybe Battlefield 3? Don´t underestimate him. He can kick arse. The Battlefield 3 is a monster too, don't underestimate the burst damage he can do. The routine is Claymore>AR Claymore>Carnage>Frag. Most shit dies very quickly, some people swear by IA, but disruptor gives you a TB and a 6+6 FE instead of a 6+1 and disruptor is better for boss shield/barrier. kalence.weebly.com/me3-builder.html#25!3803565!!34O53334!GDFA.G Build I use: Lancer BF3. Asskicking guaranteed. Alternatively, skip AR and take a Harrier. ( link ) There's 3 HSol's in this game, and I like to keep them all different. I have the Male for Cryo Ammo, the female skips CS and goes for pure weapon/grenade damage (Because women are more badarse), and the BF3 is as above. No AR? Interesting. Will give it a whirl sometime. Yeah, by skipping a different power on each of them, they all play distinctly different. And skipping AR is right up there with skipping Biotic Charge, feels so blasphemous, it must be right Still, very powerful with Carnage->Grenade->Fire Explosion, and with the Grenade spam, Harrier makes sense. Burst damage vs Armour is VERY high, and Harrier takes care of the rest.
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Post by inert on Jan 14, 2018 16:59:01 GMT
Don´t underestimate him. He can kick arse. Build I use: Lancer BF3. Asskicking guaranteed. No AR? Interesting. Will give it a whirl sometime. Yeah, by skipping a different power on each of them, they all play distinctly different. And skipping AR is right up there with skipping Biotic Charge, feels so blasphemous, it must be right Still, very powerful with Carnage->Grenade->Fire Explosion, and with the Grenade spam, Harrier makes sense. Burst damage vs Armour is VERY high, and Harrier takes care of the rest. OMG, you've never skipped AR? Concussive shot build with either tech burst or cryo soldier is pretty good. Allows you to walk around the map with near impunity. You can also switch it up and go Cryo with a diff weapon, like the CSMG, or even the Avenger.
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 14, 2018 17:07:47 GMT
Yeah, by skipping a different power on each of them, they all play distinctly different. And skipping AR is right up there with skipping Biotic Charge, feels so blasphemous, it must be right Still, very powerful with Carnage->Grenade->Fire Explosion, and with the Grenade spam, Harrier makes sense. Burst damage vs Armour is VERY high, and Harrier takes care of the rest. OMG, you've never skipped AR? Concussive shot build with either tech burst or cryo soldier is pretty good. Allows you to walk around the map with near impunity. You can also switch it up and go Cryo with a diff weapon, like the CSMG, or even the Avenger. My Cryo HSol skips Grenades (I know, blasphemy, right?) and uses an Avenger.
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Post by inert on Jan 14, 2018 17:54:49 GMT
OMG, you've never skipped AR? Concussive shot build with either tech burst or cryo soldier is pretty good. Allows you to walk around the map with near impunity. You can also switch it up and go Cryo with a diff weapon, like the CSMG, or even the Avenger. My Cryo HSol skips Grenades (I know, blasphemy, right?) and uses an Avenger. Perfectly acceptable, although AR will interfere with CS. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 14, 2018 19:39:12 GMT
Don´t underestimate him. He can kick arse. Sure, but does he do anything noticeably better than every other soldier in the game? Seems like every other soldier is super strong as it is.
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Post by Urizen on Jan 14, 2018 19:59:45 GMT
No. But he doesn´t do it worse either.
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 14, 2018 20:36:37 GMT
My Cryo HSol skips Grenades (I know, blasphemy, right?) and uses an Avenger. Perfectly acceptable, although AR will interfere with CS. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Well, my female has it specced for damage, he has it specced for survival, it's my "OHSHIT!" button on him, because stuff happens.
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Post by Vormav on Jan 14, 2018 20:40:34 GMT
I tend to prefer Falcon, Krysae, or Acolyte on a cryo-sol for the AoE. I seem to recall something about cryo armour weakening not playing nice with armour piercing (one overlaying the effective damage boost of the other), but it's been a while since I looked into it.
I used to use the BFSol as a similarly built fire-sol (skipping AR), but eventually came to the conclusion that an AA armed with an incendiary Claymore was better in every respect, even if it wasn't for the IA/warp cheese.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 14, 2018 22:04:17 GMT
The Winter Soldier -
06666, melee all the way homie.
Pirahna with AP and OmniBlade, Cryo Ammo.
Eventually, you must skip AR. It is your density.
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Post by RoystonVasey63 on Jan 14, 2018 23:40:52 GMT
The Winter Soldier - 06666, melee all the way homie. Pirahna with AP and OmniBlade, Cryo Ammo. Eventually, you must skip AR. It is your density. A fun "Winter Soldier" build -- if you can bear to forego Marksman that is -- is this Concussive Shot-take on the TSol . Now, before the screams of blasphemy! kick-in , I'm not saying this build is superior to a traditional Marksman build on the TSol; no, it just adds a bit of variety to the game and uses up some of those pesky Cryo rounds that we've all got lying around gathering dust. Here's a vid by Bwnci (whom I ... erm 'borrowed' the idea from) on the very chap:
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Post by Heroicmass on Jan 15, 2018 0:04:06 GMT
The fact that discussion about builds still happens in this game is a great testament to the quality we all have enjoyed for so many years. As for what you should try if you never have, that would be the melee human adept. The ragdoll on unshielded enemies is hilarious and it is quite powerful.
66606 is the way I prefer that set up.
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 15, 2018 6:42:09 GMT
The fact that discussion about builds still happens in this game is a great testament to the quality we all have enjoyed for so many years. As for what you should try if you never have, that would be the melee human adept. The ragdoll on unshielded enemies is hilarious and it is quite powerful. 66606 is the way I prefer that set up. I spent a whole match on Reactor trying to despawn enemies off the map with the HAdept, it was HILARIOUS, and EVERYBODY must try it sometime.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 15, 2018 12:36:16 GMT
lancer tsol without mm feels wrong, well Lancer without accuracy boost feels wrong. I like scimitar for cryo ammo priming, cause that s the only way to use it almost and i love its sound and i m nostalgic too (that me2 vanguard fighting at knife range) Melee HA is really cool but its hard to make it work on many map/enemy combo
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 15, 2018 16:07:26 GMT
lancer tsol without mm feels wrong, well Lancer without accuracy boost feels wrong. I like scimitar for cryo ammo priming, cause that s the only way to use it almost and i love its sound and i m nostalgic too (that me2 vanguard fighting at knife range) Melee HA is really cool but its hard to make it work on many map/enemy combo Destroyer does a fine job with Scimitar. It is ok... GI does lovely with it, but that's like saying that Picasso can paint with a brush. Scimitar was awesome in ME2... I was really disappointed with the gun in ME3, too much of a downgrade. I have failed enough with melee HA, that, as a melee enthusiast, I have found a limitation in my game that I have to live with at this point. One can only do so much gitting gud.
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 19, 2018 3:30:56 GMT
Three things:
Does warp ammo affect damage done to barriers? It seems like when I pick warp ammo for Fury/Crusader Phantom barriers are depleted quickly when they get hit. I don't remember it doing that much damage against them.
I had the strangest glitch when escorting the drone. It disappeared for like 10 minutes while this annoying mechanics clanking noise kept playing over and over. Enemies spawned endlessly. It finally gave me the objective cleared even though we never lead it to the extraction. No idea what that is about. If nothing else it gave me good practice using the Crusader to fight Phantoms with the Fury. It super satisfying to kill them with this set up.
Flamer is the most annoying power in this entire game. I'm not a huge fan of any character with flamer. But do other players not realize how annoying it is when they follow you around and spam flamer in your line of sight? I can't see a friggin' thing when they do this. Its happening very often these days as I see a lot of Vorcha and Geth Soldiers doing this.
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Post by Urizen on Jan 19, 2018 5:03:56 GMT
"Let me sing you the blinding song of my people" - Geth Trooper #29784765
But personally, as annoying as it is, it is nothing compared to screenshake powers. I so love missing because SHOCKWAVE. Or BIOTIC/ELECTRIC SLASH in yo face yo.
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 19, 2018 7:20:54 GMT
Three things: Does warp ammo affect damage done to barriers? It seems like when I pick warp ammo for Fury/Crusader Phantom barriers are depleted quickly when they get hit. I don't remember it doing that much damage against them. I had the strangest glitch when escorting the drone. It disappeared for like 10 minutes while this annoying mechanics clanking noise kept playing over and over. Enemies spawned endlessly. It finally gave me the objective cleared even though we never lead it to the extraction. No idea what that is about. If nothing else it gave me good practice using the Crusader to fight Phantoms with the Fury. It super satisfying to kill them with this set up. Flamer is the most annoying power in this entire game. I'm not a huge fan of any character with flamer. But do other players not realize how annoying it is when they follow you around and spam flamer in your line of sight? I can't see a friggin' thing when they do this. Its happening very often these days as I see a lot of Vorcha and Geth Soldiers doing this. Warp ammo does damage to Health, Armour, and Barriers, only Shields are unaffected. It is the perfect ammo for Collectors. "Let me sing you the blinding song of my people" - Geth Trooper #29784765 But personally, as annoying as it is, it is nothing compared to screenshake powers. I so love missing because SHOCKWAVE. Or BIOTIC/ELECTRIC SLASH in yo face yo. Or multi-frag grenades... or any grenade.... OR GETH TURRET HEAL FFS BIOWARE IT IS HEALING I think even Decoy Shock and Drone Detonate cause screenshake.... I think the one thing we can all agree on in this game is FUCK SCREENSHAKE.
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 19, 2018 22:56:49 GMT
I don't see people using characters with shockwave that often. Though Electric Slash is annoying. While not as common as Geth trooper/Vorcha, people who use the Shadow by constantly spamming electric slash as annoying as hell. Like she has so many other tools to be effective, but people mindlessly spam electric slash constantly. I especially love it when they have it specced to do no damage whatsoever or don't at least try to set up tech detonations.
And thanks, that makes sense. Dragoons and Phantoms were pretty easy with Crusader with Warp ammo 3. Geth still are a constant annoyance as the Fury though.
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Post by DistigousForest on Jan 22, 2018 11:14:24 GMT
But personally, as annoying as it is, it is nothing compared to screenshake powers Venom is love, Venom is life Does warp ammo affect damage done to barriers? It seems like when I pick warp ammo for Fury/Crusader Phantom barriers are depleted quickly when they get hit. I don't remember it doing that much damage against them. Try this: Crusader Huntress vs. Trolls. Warp ammo rips against Collectors since they're all health, barrier, and armor.
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Jan 22, 2018 14:14:30 GMT
I had the strangest glitch when escorting the drone. It disappeared for like 10 minutes while this annoying mechanics clanking noise kept playing over and over. Enemies spawned endlessly. It finally gave me the objective cleared even though we never lead it to the extraction. No idea what that is about. If nothing else it gave me good practice using the Crusader to fight Phantoms with the Fury. It super satisfying to kill them with this set up. Flamer is the most annoying power in this entire game. I'm not a huge fan of any character with flamer. But do other players not realize how annoying it is when they follow you around and spam flamer in your line of sight? I can't see a friggin' thing when they do this. Its happening very often these days as I see a lot of Vorcha and Geth Soldiers doing this. The Drone glitch has happened to me several times, but only on White, Reactor and Vancouver. I love it if it happens to be during a Guardian-intensive wave myself, as they're always the ones who hold up my Cerberus challenge completion. I do agree with you about Flamer and ES on the Shadow, which I have vowed to skip for all time, but have no desire to open that particular can of worms again - I know I'm right and won't be persuaded otherwise! I also agree with what others have said about screen shake in general (Venom aside, although I'm unlikely to equip it myself if the host is sniping), but I regard the Jugg's large Hex Shield as the single worst power in the game, by a country mile. There is no justification for its use which doesn't include the word scrub. It's a horrible, horrible violation of other players' enjoyment and will make me quit if I have to shoot through it more than once or twice. As for the TSol, my favourite build is 65564, which seems to give me the best of both worlds. I ran a few games recently with the Krysae (lore and all that) and found the balance between dealing with mooks using Cryo CS spam and Marksman for instant reloads when the bigger enemies show up to be almost perfect. Ultralight Locust for Guardians. And talking of the Locust, I also ran a full damage specced 66653 Asari Huntress with just a Locust. While I can also heartily endorse DistigousForest's Crusader Huntress as something similar to what I usually run as an alternative to the Claymore, Talon or CSMG, I wanted to see what she was like with DC absolutely maxed in every way possible, and the Locust with power booster and piercing barrel allows for that without leaving her with any obvious weakness, other than the slight pew-pew-pew nature of the gun. I chuckled with delight when we rolled Collectors, and my off-host score was around 180k with 50 Biotic kills and 20 headshots quite early on.
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 22, 2018 23:43:49 GMT
The Drone glitch has happened to me several times, but only on White, Reactor and Vancouver. I love it if it happens to be during a Guardian-intensive wave myself, as they're always the ones who hold up my Cerberus challenge completion. I do agree with you about Flamer and ES on the Shadow, which I have vowed to skip for all time, but have no desire to open that particular can of worms again - I know I'm right and won't be persuaded otherwise! I also agree with what others have said about screen shake in general (Venom aside, although I'm unlikely to equip it myself if the host is sniping), but I regard the Jugg's large Hex Shield as the single worst power in the game, by a country mile. There is no justification for its use which doesn't include the word scrub. It's a horrible, horrible violation of other players' enjoyment and will make me quit if I have to shoot through it more than once or twice. I think of the Jugg and the Vorcha kits (and GT to a lesser extent) as being sort of similar: the Jugg, and the Vorcha Sentinel in particular, are two of the awesomest, most powerful, most entertaining kits when played properly... but two of the most obnoxious kits (for other players) when played poorly/incorrectly. There is NOTHING worse than the Troll Shield. And we all know about Puggernauts standing around heavy-meleeing shit. But the Jugg is amazing when you know what you're doing (Siege Pulse spam, mostly). Same for the Flamer kits, especially the Vorcha Sentinel. Flamer in your face is annoying af. But there isn't much more fun in this game than playing the Vorcha Sentinel like a boss, blowing up Fire Explosions left and right and meleeing shit to death with your awesome claws. You just have to get into the Vorcha mindset: KILLING! BLOOD! FIRE! Throw a Raider or Venom on him, with Adrenaline Mod, and get a little crazy. Pulse Flamer, use Incendiary cheese, apply Clusterfuck grenades liberally, melee that Banshee in the face. So much fun.
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Post by obbie1984 on Jan 23, 2018 23:46:39 GMT
But personally, as annoying as it is, it is nothing compared to screenshake powers Venom is love, Venom is life Does warp ammo affect damage done to barriers? It seems like when I pick warp ammo for Fury/Crusader Phantom barriers are depleted quickly when they get hit. I don't remember it doing that much damage against them. Try this: Crusader Huntress vs. Trolls. Warp ammo rips against Collectors since they're all health, barrier, and armor. You ain't lying. I'm pretty sure you were the first to recommend that gun on the Fury for me. I did three runs of Platinum yesterday and successfully extracted all of them with randoms with Venom/Fury. In fact, I have a high success rate with this build in platinum. Phantoms cannot do anything to me with this build. Only Atlas/Primes are the issue. So I take an Acolyte with me. Though I wish I didn't have to. I don't like this gun. Though I have to wonder why I almost NEVER see the Venom at all. I know its not great off host, but can it be that bad? As for that Huntress build. I have one very similar to that. I just use the Claymore instead. Its really stupid how good it is. I will try Crusader next though. Speaking of the Venom/Crusader, I actually recorded gold solo against Cerberus/Collectors respectively with the Fury. But I don't know if its worth uploading because there is some bad play. The recorder lag, the poor video quality from the recorder and my small TV don't help. But there was a bit of human error on my part.
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