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Post by Sonashii on Nov 22, 2017 15:36:35 GMT
with my 66454 the next logical progression, and ultimately 66653 for when you have it (or her) absolutely nailed. I'm sorry gentlemen for interrupting your nice conversation, but this irks the hell out of me Grunt, why on Earth would you leave 7 available points untouched? I'm assuming it's by mistake. Also I think I took a part in AJA build discussion the last time, was a noob back then, and I still am one. But this is my version: CLICKI tried your build Grunt, but Acolyte feels kinda underwhelming for me, CSMG is better though. But once I gave her Venom, I never looked back. For platinum I use Cyclonic, for gold I'd go with PA. And yes, it's a build for hosting, but Terror once said - this character doesn't need a gun And let me tell you, I even managed to finish a plat game with Muah, x3l on top of the scoreboard. It was a long time ago, probably they let me do it, but still. Anyways, it's just my 2 cents. I'm not an expert by any means, you guys are more experienced than me. But I leave some footage of me using this combo. It was a nice duo with Apry
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Post by DistigousForest on Nov 22, 2017 15:42:17 GMT
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Nov 22, 2017 16:09:59 GMT
Thanks man. I think DC does (Edit:no it doesn't, thanks Fox), but had recently convinced myself that Reave doesn't, though it seems it may have been other players causing the invulnerabilty bubble. I stand corrected. But yeah, you're still the weirdo - every time a Justicar goes into battle without Pull a kitten dies somewhere. And Sonashii , what can I say? Thanks for pointing out my stupidity publicly. I had to check my actual build and it seems I have 5 ranks in Health, so scrub status confirmed. I'll amend the build link accordingly. I did actually list the Venom at the top of the tree in the other thread though, so at least we understand each other.
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Post by Sonashii on Nov 22, 2017 16:19:51 GMT
And Sonashii, what can I say? Thanks for pointing out my stupidity publicly. I had to check my actual build and it seems I have 5 ranks in Health, so scrub status confirmed. I'll amend the build link accordingly. I did actually list the Venom at the top of the tree in the other thread though, so at least we understand each other. Oi, sorry Grunt. Didn't want to sound like that. It was a small mistake, everybody does that, so please, don't worry Also if I remember correctly, it was you who suggested me using Venom back, when I was getting to know AJA. So it's more than appropriate to say - thank you PS. Have you decided to go on a mustard diet yet?
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Post by mordokai on Nov 22, 2017 16:27:48 GMT
This is the build I'm currently using, but I'm leaning towards respec... like this. Reasoning being, the last rank on passives is a waste, since you won't be using lolcoyte for killing anyway and I think survivability shouldn't be too negatively impacted by dropping one rank of fitness. Any thoughts?
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Nov 22, 2017 16:47:00 GMT
And Sonashii, what can I say? Thanks for pointing out my stupidity publicly. I had to check my actual build and it seems I have 5 ranks in Health, so scrub status confirmed. I'll amend the build link accordingly. I did actually list the Venom at the top of the tree in the other thread though, so at least we understand each other. Oi, sorry Grunt. Didn't want to sound like that. It was a small mistake, everybody does that, so please, don't worry Also if I remember correctly, it was you who suggested me using Venom back, when I was getting to know AJA. So it's more than appropriate to say - thank you PS. Have you decided to go on a mustard diet yet? Don't worry, I'm not worrying - I know I'm among friends. As for mustard, that was what I was thinking the whole way through your video! Unfortunately car and motorbike have recently cost me most of my savings, so it'll have to wait. My laptop currently wouldn't be up to the job. As for the gameplay, it was a really enjoyable duo to watch, and although the Venom is like adding steroids to the equation, you do play her very like me - it's like a dance. More importantly, " MPApr2012 was taken down by swarmer" at the start of wave 10 made me see some things are the same on whichever platform you play!
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Nov 22, 2017 16:52:30 GMT
This is the build I'm currently using, but I'm leaning towards respec... like this. Reasoning being, the last rank on passives is a waste, since you won't be using lolcoyte for killing anyway and I think survivability shouldn't be too negatively impacted by dropping one rank of fitness. Any thoughts? Bearing in mind that I've already made schoolboy mathematical errors in this thread, your proposal for a respec would be the living embodiment of what I described to @fmulder as the 'nailed it/her' build. Personally I prefer the faster shield recharge and don't really see the need for maxed Pull, but we're splitting hairs over personal preference.
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Post by docsteely on Nov 22, 2017 17:35:41 GMT
This is my usual build. As pointed before, she's NOT a weapon platform, though ofc you can slap the Venom (Wraith or GPS) on her; also, frankly, I fail to see the usefulness of more than 3 points in Pull, given the pitiful number of unshielded mooks you see on plat or even gold. Yes, I know about the 6x6 biotic booms, but for me the reason to max fitness is the 990 shields that you get. And Sonashii , you're well beyond a n00b, you're the undisputed King of the PUGs, start acting like it...
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Nov 22, 2017 18:23:26 GMT
I fail to see the usefulness of more than 3 points in Pull, given the pitiful number of unshielded mooks you see on plat or even gold. But with your Acolyte the number of Pullable mooks rises significantly, and the extra radius means Pulling two-for-the-price-of-one on a fairly regular basis. That said, I hear you loud and clear on the extra health - I'm simply hoping to demonstrate the potential usefulness of 4 ranks with this approach.
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Post by mordokai on Nov 22, 2017 18:31:01 GMT
This is the build I'm currently using, but I'm leaning towards respec... like this. Reasoning being, the last rank on passives is a waste, since you won't be using lolcoyte for killing anyway and I think survivability shouldn't be too negatively impacted by dropping one rank of fitness. Any thoughts? Bearing in mind that I've already made schoolboy mathematical errors in this thread, your proposal for a respec would be the living embodiment of what I described to @fmulder as the 'nailed it/her' build. Personally I prefer the faster shield recharge and don't really see the need for maxed Pull, but we're splitting hairs over personal preference. Reporting back from snowy Noveria, where out team got butchered by needy banshees... until that wave five, everything went smoothly. Next one, Reactor hazard vs. geth. And it was a tedious one, although, that's purely because, well... cheating muthafuggin geth. Still... it's a sad day when in a party of Electrical hammer warlord, acolyte geth trooper and reegar vorcha soldier, justicar is the best at making scrap heap metal out of toasters. I'm digging this new build. The stakes are higher, but I feel confident that, unless I roll geth, I'm up to the challenge. And unlike you, my old friend, I actually think the difference in biotic booms between four and six ranks in Pull is pretty darn noticeable. So I think I'll stuck with it for a while
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Nov 22, 2017 19:08:36 GMT
I'm pretty sure that 66653 is the same as my Justicar build, but I'd have to look (I haven't changed it in over 3 years, I don't think.) I can't remember if I pick recharge or DR in rank 5 of Reave, and I'm not sure which Rank 6 I picked, but I'm confident that whatever I picked works.
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Post by RoystonVasey63 on Nov 22, 2017 19:37:39 GMT
Perhaps I'm alone in running a 6-6-6-0-6 build for the Asari Justicar. With a no-passives-build, she dispatches a mook (sometimes two at once) pretty effortlessly with a shot from her Incendairy ammo-equipped Acolyte followed by a Pull. For Bosses she has 6+6 biotic explosions and a Hurricane at hand, which seem to me to do the job. Am I mad? .
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Post by mordokai on Nov 22, 2017 19:51:18 GMT
Am I mad? . You are. But then again, I don't consider that a bad thing. After all, aren't we all just a little mad in today's crazy world?
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Post by DistigousForest on Nov 22, 2017 19:53:57 GMT
Thanks man. I think DC does (though it doesn't stack obviously), but had recently convinced myself that Reave doesn't, though it seems it may have been other players causing the invulnerabilty bubble. I stand corrected. But yeah, you're still the weirdo - every time a Justicar goes into battle without Pull a kitten dies somewhere. And Sonashii , what can I say? Thanks for pointing out my stupidity publicly. I had to check my actual build and it seems I have 5 ranks in Health, so scrub status confirmed. I'll amend the build link accordingly. I did actually list the Venom at the top of the tree in the other thread though, so at least we understand each other. Oof I've killed many a kitten then over the years. I've got a couple builds people have considered weird over the years that I like; I'll have to post them at some point.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Nov 22, 2017 20:29:28 GMT
Perhaps I'm alone in running a 6-6-6-0-6 build for the Asari Justicar. With a no-passives-build, she dispatches a mook (sometimes two at once) pretty effortlessly with a shot from her Incendairy ammo-equipped Acolyte followed by a Pull. For Bosses she has 6+6 biotic explosions and a Hurricane at hand, which seem to me to do the job. Am I mad? . Yeah Well rounded build
Putting 6 points in Pull is a waste on higher difficulties. And factions like Rippaz or Collecturds have very few units to pull. Although:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 21:57:14 GMT
Reave goes throughout a Praetorian's bubble. It's the only power who does that, so Dark Channel does not.
As for the Reave's evos, I find 6a way better, this bonus against barriers and armors transforms the power into a really good direct damage dealer against bosses. At rank 5, I usually take recharge speed (the sooner I can make Reave stacks, the better) but I find the choice has less impact, unless, depending on your recharge speed, it impacts the number of times you can get Reave stacking on a target. Not really a game breaker though.
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Nov 22, 2017 22:15:38 GMT
Perhaps I'm alone in running a 6-6-6-0-6 build for the Asari Justicar. With a no-passives-build, she dispatches a mook (sometimes two at once) pretty effortlessly with a shot from her Incendairy ammo-equipped Acolyte followed by a Pull. For Bosses she has 6+6 biotic explosions and a Hurricane at hand, which seem to me to do the job. Am I mad? . I thought that was a given in this place, which I think of as a local forum for local people when you're around, so who's mad? As for your build it's actually incredibly sensible, all things considered. Her BEs aren't affected at all by the Passive boosts and the Acolyte isn't much of a damage dealer, so they could be viewed as wasted points apart from the faster cooldowns. My rationale for wanting 5 ranks stems from the knowledge that if I really, totally and absolutely have to clutch a particularly tough wave, the boosts to Reave on its own are often more useful than the slightly bigger BEs which are harder to create if you're playing defensively by necessity. Voluptuous Volus - Geth Scanner and Adrenaline III? Some decorum please, that's just dirty. Not that there's anything wrong with playing a dirty Asari every now and again (Valkyrie/Raider anyone?), but that's my Matriarch you're talking about there.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Nov 22, 2017 22:19:01 GMT
Perhaps I'm alone in running a 6-6-6-0-6 build for the Asari Justicar. With a no-passives-build, she dispatches a mook (sometimes two at once) pretty effortlessly with a shot from her Incendairy ammo-equipped Acolyte followed by a Pull. For Bosses she has 6+6 biotic explosions and a Hurricane at hand, which seem to me to do the job. Am I mad? . I thought that was a given in this place, which I think of as a local forum for local people when you're around, so who's mad? As for your build it's actually incredibly sensible, all things considered. Her BEs aren't affected at all by the Passive boosts and the Acolyte isn't much of a damage dealer, so they could be viewed as wasted points apart from the faster cooldowns. My rationale for wanting 5 ranks stems from the knowledge that if I really, totally and absolutely have to clutch a particularly tough wave, the boosts to Reave on its own are often more useful than the slightly bigger BEs which are harder to create if you're playing defensively by necessity. Voluptuous Volus - Geth Scanner and Adrenaline III? Some decorum please, that's just dirty. Not that there's anything wrong with playing a dirty Asari every now and again (Valkyrie/Raider anyone?), but that's my Matriarch you're talking about there. DAFAQ YOU TALKIN' 'BOUT BRO?
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Nov 22, 2017 22:22:40 GMT
Reave goes throughout a Praetorian's bubble. It's the only power who does that, so Dark Channel does not. As for the Reave's evos, I find 6a way better, this bonus against barriers and armors transforms the power into a really good direct damage dealer against bosses. At rank 5, I usually take recharge speed (the sooner I can make Reave stacks, the better) but I find the choice has less impact, unless, depending on your recharge speed, it impacts the number of times you can get Reave stacking on a target. Not really a game breaker though. Since I almost always carry a light(ish) weapon on the Jussticar - recharge speed is not a problem and I actually don't want it be too fast. I want to Reave and get some shots off while Reave is on cooldown.
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Post by DistigousForest on Nov 22, 2017 22:44:32 GMT
Here's a couple goofy ass builds that make no sense, but are fun to play, sometimes frustrating, better on host than off, and can kind of suck vs bosses. Cryo Valkyrie. Ok so take everything cheesey about the Valkyrie and throw it out the window. MPApr2012 need to use the Cryo ammo you've been stashing? Try her out. She's best against mooks and captains, you freeze enemies with Acolyte and use the Asarigasm or Tech Armor to finish them off. Everything you do stuns or has a nice AoE that also stuns. Warp and Acolyte stun from a distance, AF/TA/Gasm stuns up close with the Asarigasm doing a ton of damage. If you want to cheese bosses I'd go with Incendiary rounds. Melee TGI. I think I originally saw this on reddit. It's not too weird, but definitely something you don't see very often. The Crusader benefits nicely from stability passives. Stim packs don't give too much of a melee bonus so only 3 points there. Lots of stuns with Disrtuptor and Overload, Incendiary ammo is always good too. Adrenaline mod is also a great choice because a cracked out Turian is always good. Falcon Cabal I wanted to use both Poison Strike and Nightshade blades and this was the best I could come up with at the time. The Venom is probably better here, but I needed a kit for the Falcon and at the time I didn't know how awesome the Venom was. Stun some mooks with it, Poison Strike FE or Nightshade Blades for more stuns. Also light melee is really nice while things are staggered from the Falcon.
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Post by MPApr2012 on Nov 22, 2017 23:06:30 GMT
I would address things point by point like you did but it all gets too confusing for me, console scrub and all that. I realize it may have appeared as if I was 'blaming' you for the necro, when in reality I was meaning to credit you with inspiring me into waffling on about one of my favourite things. No worries bud, never thought you were that was a tongue-in-cheek comment on my part. you know, just my usual self, with both feet in my mouth trying to claim the incoherent and illiterate piles of words for an accurate expression of my thoughts and sometimes humour heheheh and thanks for reviving a good thread, nice to see it back i loved the little plinker ever since ME2 yes there is the Hurdurr, and CSMG the Locust is though the one completin my personal SMG top three. And to anyone smirking at it i'd recommend doing the Plague challenge for a new perspective Well, Grunt, once again gotta give it to you, your knowledge and yout logic got you through to a right conclusion - this is not really a team-focused build Quite a normal story for me, for my builds i have to account for the cases where the majority of my games are either started alone with a good chance of noone joining due to my geo/timezone location, or are deliberate solo attempts. You've covered most of the points and followed my thinking pretty spot on. My Reave is indeed DR/stacking focused. That's so in part to compensate for the lowered fitness and in part as an acceptable trade-off for maxing out the powers. Strangely enough I don't have much of an issue dealing with the armour, but like i said i'm mostly Gold based. On the occasions where i do get dragged into a Platinum match i may swap Cryo for some piercing to compensate. I found the weird synergy between Talon + Reave combo seems where it seems to be doing just fine. That smaller bubble is quite simple. When you're all by yourself there ain't much advantage to have it full extent whilst the shield recharge can in fact offer some limited advantage for the things like devices or in case of a tactical retreat/repositioning. The only caveat i found is have to be a bit more careful with the offensive bubble detonating primed Brutes (spiky) and Scions (bashy) Weapon's rarity is a good point Thanks man. I think DC does (though it doesn't stack obviously), but had recently convinced myself that Reave doesn't, though it seems it may have been other players causing the invulnerabilty bubble. I stand corrected. But yeah, you're still the weirdo - every time a Justicar goes into battle without Pull a kitten dies somewhere. Reave, Reave is the right answer when dealing with the space crabs. And yes it does procs through the bubble (i see Loufi and others already ninja-ed me). DC procs only when jumping target, it wont' proc if cast direct Oi, sorry Grunt. Didn't want to sound like that. It was a small mistake, everybody does that, so please, don't worry Also if I remember correctly, it was you who suggested me using Venom back, when I was getting to know AJA. So it's more than appropriate to say - thank you PS. Have you decided to go on a mustard diet yet? As for the gameplay, it was a really enjoyable duo to watch, and although the Venom is like adding steroids to the equation, you do play her very like me - it's like a dance. More importantly, " MPApr2012 was taken down by swarmer" at the start of wave 10 made me see some things are the same on whichever platform you play! Them are my sworn enemies. Them deserve every single missile right in their little, bulgy, peeking eye thingie, each and every one of them. Here's my PoV of that moment EDIT: Some words here and there
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Nov 22, 2017 23:35:38 GMT
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Post by MPApr2012 on Nov 23, 2017 3:10:28 GMT
Here's a couple goofy ass builds that make no sense, but are fun to play, sometimes frustrating, better on host than off, and can kind of suck vs bosses. Cryo Valkyrie. Ok so take everything cheesey about the Valkyrie and throw it out the window. MPApr2012 need to use the Cryo ammo you've been stashing? Try her out. She's best against mooks and captains, you freeze enemies with Acolyte and use the Asarigasm or Tech Armor to finish them off. Everything you do stuns or has a nice AoE that also stuns. Warp and Acolyte stun from a distance, AF/TA/Gasm stuns up close with the Asarigasm doing a ton of damage. If you want to cheese bosses I'd go with Incendiary rounds. Melee TGI. I think I originally saw this on reddit. It's not too weird, but definitely something you don't see very often. The Crusader benefits nicely from stability passives. Stim packs don't give too much of a melee bonus so only 3 points there. Lots of stuns with Disrtuptor and Overload, Incendiary ammo is always good too. Adrenaline mod is also a great choice because a cracked out Turian is always good. Falcon Cabal I wanted to use both Poison Strike and Nightshade blades and this was the best I could come up with at the time. The Venom is probably better here, but I needed a kit for the Falcon and at the time I didn't know how awesome the Venom was. Stun some mooks with it, Poison Strike FE or Nightshade Blades for more stuns. Also light melee is really nice while things are staggered from the Falcon. i hardly think this constitutes stashing anmore... if anything the current status of my cryo stocks is making me depressed i now have to save those IVs for the special occasions. Quite an interesting Valkyrie build, i take it the hurddur is there for our friendly neighbourhood ravagers and scions?
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Post by Deerber on Nov 23, 2017 11:24:20 GMT
The answer to all your questions is Claymore anyway. Or Drell. Sometimes it's Drell. Even better if it's Drell plus Claymore.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Nov 23, 2017 21:39:02 GMT
Here's a couple goofy ass builds that make no sense, but are fun to play, sometimes frustrating, better on host than off, and can kind of suck vs bosses. Cryo Valkyrie. Ok so take everything cheesey about the Valkyrie and throw it out the window. MPApr2012 need to use the Cryo ammo you've been stashing? Try her out. She's best against mooks and captains, you freeze enemies with Acolyte and use the Asarigasm or Tech Armor to finish them off. Everything you do stuns or has a nice AoE that also stuns. Warp and Acolyte stun from a distance, AF/TA/Gasm stuns up close with the Asarigasm doing a ton of damage. If you want to cheese bosses I'd go with Incendiary rounds. Melee TGI. I think I originally saw this on reddit. It's not too weird, but definitely something you don't see very often. The Crusader benefits nicely from stability passives. Stim packs don't give too much of a melee bonus so only 3 points there. Lots of stuns with Disrtuptor and Overload, Incendiary ammo is always good too. Adrenaline mod is also a great choice because a cracked out Turian is always good. Falcon Cabal I wanted to use both Poison Strike and Nightshade blades and this was the best I could come up with at the time. The Venom is probably better here, but I needed a kit for the Falcon and at the time I didn't know how awesome the Venom was. Stun some mooks with it, Poison Strike FE or Nightshade Blades for more stuns. Also light melee is really nice while things are staggered from the Falcon. That Valk build is a variation of the Venom Suicide Melee build, and I approve greatly! Fun way to play that kit, spamming Tech Armor never gets old. Falcon destroys Venom off-host, so I definitely like your Cabal build. Crusader Melee TGI just isn't fair.
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