Should Juggs be escorting?

Something appears to have gone wonky with the quoting, but I just want to emphasize the part about this practice not being appropriate in pug games, as 99.99% of pugs are unaware of the possibility and wouldn't understand what was happening. Also, geezer's match involved two Juggs, so they didn't glitch the circle, and doc's explanation stands - the timer goes at half the speed, which is just stupid.

I don't think there's a single potential clusterfuck situation in the game that two properly specced Juggs can't see out, especially working side by side. Two Juggs, two small maxed Hex Shields, two 3 or 4 ranked Turrets, two PPR Xs, or as I said earlier, perhaps one fully boosted GPS (including Shotgun Gear), and even a centre London hack shouldn't be a problem. Assuming basic L2P knowledge, that is. I include speccing into the (small, maxed) Hex Shield as basic L2P knowledge, because there are no points better spent elsewhere. Fact.

We'll have to disagree on that, Grunt. Arkhne and Filippopotame , to name just two, pointed out to me some excellent Jug builds that are power based, in which they max out their turret instead of the shield (while of course keeping the 3 points in it). 

For the rest, anytime you wish to prove the theory that two properly specced Jugs can get out of any bad situation, I am all yours.

I'm not going to quote anyone as I'm already horrified by some of the things attributed to me!

Maxing Fitness on the Jugg is a waste of points in any circumstances. No pugs ever bother staying within the damage boost circle, and the alternate 10% damage reduction is too costly for any player who has grasped how the game actually works - especially in a solo. It's hard to spot any significant difference between a 4/4 or 3/5 split between the Turret and Fitness, but honestly, the 6th rank of Fitness is like stabilizers on a bicycle - fine while you learn the Jugg's limits, but as I said, a complete waste after a while. Learning to walk backwards is much more beneficial, for example.

Killing things faster than they can kill you is how the game works, in a nutshell. You don't need more shields to do that, you need more damage.

I'm not going to quote anyone as I'm already horrified by some of the things attributed to me!

Maxing Fitness on the Jugg is a waste of points in any circumstances. No pugs ever bother staying within the damage boost circle, and the alternate 10% damage reduction is too costly for any player who has grasped how the game actually works - especially in a solo. It's hard to spot any significant difference between a 4/4 or 3/5 split between the Turret and Fitness, but honestly, the 6th rank of Fitness is like stabilizers on a bicycle - fine while you learn the Jugg's limits, but as I said, a complete waste after a while. Learning to walk backwards is much more beneficial, for example.

Killing things faster than they can kill you is how the game works, in a nutshell. You don't need more shields to do that, you need more damage.

Even for platinum team games I find fitness rank 6B useful for the Juggernaut, I use him from time to time for the Spitfire challenge. I find Platinum Collectors to be hardest for him (worse than the Geth even), 2 possessed Preatorians at melee range and you'll eat a medigel in seconds, get 3 Goons on you in melee range and it's another medigel.

Gold is different, I'll agree that max fitness isn't needed there but at least for me it's needed for Platinum.

That is what a ppr x is for.

Or Lancer X for those lucky enough to have those... Whoops, sorry, unmaxed manifest rage.  

This is what Jug should be doing. It's a tank for coordinated teamplay, plain and simple. Draw and keep the aggro.