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Post by disi on Jun 26, 2018 15:15:12 GMT
I just started a playthrough and neither Peebee nor Drack had helmets for air or some sort of suit for protection against radiation.
Vetra seems adequate protected and so are all humans. Do some species just don't have any helmet or protective gear made for them (Turian and Humans only)?
p.s. or are Peebee and Drack Kett spies? They can breath and walk around without protection too.
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Post by sil on Jun 26, 2018 18:42:17 GMT
I just started a playthrough and neither Peebee nor Drack had helmets for air or some sort of suit for protection against radiation. Vetra seems adequate protected and so are all humans. Do some species just don't have any helmet or protective gear made for them (Turian and Humans only)? p.s. or are Peebee and Drack Kett spies? They can breath and walk around without protection too. They make protective gear for every race. Bioware are being cheap by no longer allowing us to equip gear on our squadmates.
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Post by bshep on Jun 26, 2018 18:58:41 GMT
Pretty sure drak had a helmet. But BW again used damn breather masks for asari.
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Post by Antibaar on Jun 28, 2018 21:21:17 GMT
Remember Javik,he could breathe in the vaccuum of space )
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Post by x19dude95 on Jul 25, 2018 20:41:07 GMT
Jaal and peebee are the only ones who don’t have helmets. They are Also the only ones who don’t where battle armour is peebee is casual clothing, Jaal is in a skin tight suit think nightwing from batman.
Turn squad members helmets on at all times, and everyone who is not Jaal or peebee is covered head to toe
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 20:56:53 GMT
When you encounter PeeBee, you're in an area where there is a radiation shield. Ditto when you encounter Drack. You'll also notice that Clancy is not wearing any sort of radiation gear. Cora and Liam have helmets (if you have your settings such that they wear them). I believe Vetra also has a helmet. Personally, I don't play with the helmet setting active since I prefer to see faces during conversations and I'm not as fussed about it as many people seem to be. When you return to Eos with PeeBee and Drack as squadmates, the story is supposed to have progressed such that the radiation has been largely cleared and there are numerous NPCs encountered on the planet who are not wearing protection. Ultimately, Eos is meant to be a habitable planet... as are all the other planets you are allowed to walk about on.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 25, 2018 22:01:53 GMT
Remember Javik,he could breathe in the vaccuum of space ) Um when did he do that?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 16:44:39 GMT
Jaal and peebee are the only ones who don’t have helmets. They are Also the only ones who don’t where battle armour is peebee is casual clothing, Jaal is in a skin tight suit think nightwing from batman. Turn squad members helmets on at all times, and everyone who is not Jaal or peebee is covered head to toe Under his rofjin (cape), Jaal's armor is the same as any of the other Angara in the game and it probably has some high-tech ballistic protection imbedded in the material it's made from. Peebee's think jacket could also have imbedded ballistic protection.
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Post by sil on Jul 26, 2018 17:23:02 GMT
Jaal and peebee are the only ones who don’t have helmets. They are Also the only ones who don’t where battle armour is peebee is casual clothing, Jaal is in a skin tight suit think nightwing from batman. Turn squad members helmets on at all times, and everyone who is not Jaal or peebee is covered head to toe Under his rofjin (cape), Jaal's armor is the same as any of the other Angara in the game and it probably has some high-tech ballistic protection imbedded in the material it's made from. Peebee's think jacket could also have imbedded ballistic protection. Her exposed belly button must have ballistic protection too.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 26, 2018 17:29:12 GMT
Jaal and peebee are the only ones who don’t have helmets. They are Also the only ones who don’t where battle armour is peebee is casual clothing, Jaal is in a skin tight suit think nightwing from batman. Turn squad members helmets on at all times, and everyone who is not Jaal or peebee is covered head to toeWell not quite. Drack has an exposed arm.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 21:08:28 GMT
Under his rofjin (cape), Jaal's armor is the same as any of the other Angara in the game and it probably has some high-tech ballistic protection imbedded in the material it's made from. Peebee's think jacket could also have imbedded ballistic protection. Her exposed belly button must have ballistic protection too. I didn't say her navel was protected... just that the jacket might provide more protection than run of the mill civilian clothes. I know people like to make a big deal over how game devs dress women in these games; but I'm honestly just too old to notice or care anymore. As was pointed out, Drack has an exposed arm. So did Zaeed in the OT. It's just not a big deal for me.
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Post by sil on Jul 26, 2018 22:19:12 GMT
Her exposed belly button must have ballistic protection too. I didn't say her navel was protected... just that the jacket might provide more protection than run of the mill civilian clothes. I know people like to make a big deal over how game devs dress women in these games; but I'm honestly just too old to notice or care anymore. As was pointed out, Drack has an exposed arm. So did Zaeed in the OT. It's just not a big deal for me. I don't really care how they dress women in games really, too many people claiming to be 'liberal' or 'progressive' seem to be the opposite and are all for removing freedoms. But anyway, away from politics, my comment about the belly button was just a joke. However, I personally hate it when you're running around Voeld and Peebee has her belly button exposed, or you're running around that toxic planet in ME2 while Miranda just has a tiny facemask on. These silly irritating issues have only arisen since ME2 removed the ability to equip your squad with armour.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 26, 2018 22:25:48 GMT
Yeah, my issue with them not wearing full body armor is not political in nature but simply because they sacrificed their lore to follow the Rule of Cool/Sexy. The lore in Mass Effect 1 is kinetic barriers and biotics protect people from high-moving objects like bullets while the armor was to protect from slow moving objects as well as the natural environment. Hence why whenever we went onto a planet with a hazard the helmets were equipped automatically and even had the hole in the front sealed. Then ME2 happened where people can run around unprotected in places that should cause them to die in moments.
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Post by sil on Jul 26, 2018 22:39:08 GMT
Yeah, my issue with them not wearing full body armor is not political in nature but simply because they sacrificed their lore to follow the Rule of Cool/Sexy. The lore in Mass Effect 1 is kinetic barriers and biotics protect people from high-moving objects like bullets while the armor was to protect from slow moving objects as well as the natural environment. Hence why whenever we went onto a planet with a hazard the helmets were equipped automatically and even had the hole in the front sealed. Then ME2 happened where people can run around unprotected in places that should cause them to die in moments. It's something I wish could be fixed via modding, but I doubt anyone knows where to start.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 26, 2018 22:40:55 GMT
Remember Javik,he could breathe in the vaccuum of space ) Um when did he do that? geth dreadnought mission
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 26, 2018 23:08:00 GMT
Oh yeah. That was never that big of a deal to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 23:29:39 GMT
Yeah, my issue with them not wearing full body armor is not political in nature but simply because they sacrificed their lore to follow the Rule of Cool/Sexy. The lore in Mass Effect 1 is kinetic barriers and biotics protect people from high-moving objects like bullets while the armor was to protect from slow moving objects as well as the natural environment. Hence why whenever we went onto a planet with a hazard the helmets were equipped automatically and even had the hole in the front sealed. Then ME2 happened where people can run around unprotected in places that should cause them to die in moments. Which is something I didn't like because, as I said, I like to see faces when people are talking with each other. My preference probably has a bit to do with becoming a little hard of hearing (even though lip animations aren't that great). The "off in conversations" mode doesn't make sense either since the helmets just vanish into thin air and then reappear. There are only a few scenes in any of the games where they show the helmet being removed in order to talk.
At any rate, in ME:A they are seldom "in the vacuum of space"; but are on planets that are ultimately meant to be habitable (with some improvements required) or in space ships where, even today, astronauts onboard the space station float around in T-shirts and without breathing gear on. PeeBee's navel being exposed to the cold on Voeld - well, I live in Canada and have seen teens running about in T-shirts in -30C weather. Not smart to be sure, but that doesn't seem to stop them. Maybe Asari don't feel the cold as easily as humans. Certainly the Angara had adapted to Voeld's climate to a large degree (we are told as much when we talk with the two lookouts just outside the Resistance Base. I don't think Asari tolerance to cold was something ever mentioned previously in the lore, so IMO, it could be used as an explanation for it.
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Post by x19dude95 on Jul 27, 2018 18:58:33 GMT
Jaal and peebee are the only ones who don’t have helmets. They are Also the only ones who don’t where battle armour is peebee is casual clothing, Jaal is in a skin tight suit think nightwing from batman. Turn squad members helmets on at all times, and everyone who is not Jaal or peebee is covered head to toe Under his rofjin (cape), Jaal's armor is the same as any of the other Angara in the game and it probably has some high-tech ballistic protection imbedded in the material it's made from. Peebee's think jacket could also have imbedded ballistic protection. This tbh with you i also feel like Miranda had the same thing
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Post by x19dude95 on Jul 27, 2018 19:00:56 GMT
Jaal and peebee are the only ones who don’t have helmets. They are Also the only ones who don’t where battle armour is peebee is casual clothing, Jaal is in a skin tight suit think nightwing from batman. Turn squad members helmets on at all times, and everyone who is not Jaal or peebee is covered head to toeWell not quite. Drack has an exposed arm. Never noticed. And that’s not that big of a deal Humans in real war don’t have much on there arms. Don’t think A kerogen is going cut his arm and cry
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 27, 2018 19:21:47 GMT
Well not quite. Drack has an exposed arm. Never noticed. And that’s not that big of a deal Humans in real war don’t have much on there arms. Don’t think A kerogen is going cut his arm and cry Humans in real war don't get exposed to the kind of physical environments we do in Mass Effect games either. The real life people who do wear outfits that fully protect them from said environment.
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Never noticed. And that’s not that big of a deal Humans in real war don’t have much on there arms. Don’t think A kerogen is going cut his arm and cry Humans in real war don't get exposed to the kind of physical environments we do in Mass Effect games either. The real life people who do wear outfits that fully protect them from said environment. As I said, I've seen teenagers in Canada running around in -30C temperatures in T-shirts. A few years ago when the short T-shirts were fashionable for the girls, I'd see a ton of bare navels in the winter time. The temperature on Voeld, before activating the vaults was -40C and raises 11 degrees after the vault is activated... which means it gets warmer than some Canadian winter days. We also don't know what high-tech properties Peebee's jacket has. People here use little chemical heat packs inside their gloves and such, so it's possible her jacket has a heat feature that can provide some radiant heat to her navel area without actually covering it. What's ridiculous is Ryder complaining incessantly about the heat on Elaaden. One would think a suit that completely covers him/her and is designed to make it possible for a human to survive the "vacuum of space" would have an ability to regulate temperature inside the suit... since the temperatures in space vary to far greater extremes than shown on either Voeld or Elaaden.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 28, 2018 19:11:38 GMT
@upagain I will say it doesn't bother me as much in MEA as compared to ME2 or ME3 since like you said the planets on Andromeda aren't as hostile as environments as some in those other two games. If I had to pick a planet where it bugged me the most it would be on the planet we go to during PeeBee's personal quest since we are inside an active volcanic region so that would require full body protection. I still think they should have at least given a couple options per character. I remember they said they were considering maybe doing that, but nothing came of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 19:26:24 GMT
@upagain I will say it doesn't bother me as much in MEA as compared to ME2 or ME3 since like you said the planets on Andromeda aren't as hostile as environments as some in those other two games. If I had to pick a planet where it bugged me the most it would be on the planet we go to during PeeBee's personal quest since we are inside an active volcanic region so that would require full body protection. I still think they should have at least given a couple options per character. I remember they said they were considering maybe doing that, but nothing came of it. I agree there - In any of the ME games, it would have been nice to have had more selections. In ME1 and ME2, I didn't like the fact that Shepard and crew were always in their armor and carrying all their weapons on the Citadel when almost everyone else, including the human members of C-Sec were not wearing armor. In ME:A, I really felt that Ryder should have been dressed in his/her civilian clothes for playing in Liam's soccer game on Eos... particularly since Liam made a point of telling him/her how to dress.
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Post by x19dude95 on Jul 28, 2018 22:07:01 GMT
Never noticed. And that’s not that big of a deal Humans in real war don’t have much on there arms. Don’t think A kerogen is going cut his arm and cry Humans in real war don't get exposed to the kind of physical environments we do in Mass Effect games either. The real life people who do wear outfits that fully protect them from said environment. Again just because the environment doesn’t sit with humans, doesn’t mean a war race what evolved in a wasteland would feel the same effects.
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Post by sil on Jul 29, 2018 15:12:07 GMT
@upagain I will say it doesn't bother me as much in MEA as compared to ME2 or ME3 since like you said the planets on Andromeda aren't as hostile as environments as some in those other two games. If I had to pick a planet where it bugged me the most it would be on the planet we go to during PeeBee's personal quest since we are inside an active volcanic region so that would require full body protection. I still think they should have at least given a couple options per character. I remember they said they were considering maybe doing that, but nothing came of it. I agree there - In any of the ME games, it would have been nice to have had more selections. In ME1 and ME2, I didn't like the fact that Shepard and crew were always in their armor and carrying all their weapons on the Citadel when almost everyone else, including the human members of C-Sec were not wearing armor. In ME:A, I really felt that Ryder should have been dressed in his/her civilian clothes for playing in Liam's soccer game on Eos... particularly since Liam made a point of telling him/her how to dress. Not only that, but EA own the Fifa games. They could've used the code from that to make a little mini-game for it.
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