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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 9, 2023 10:20:42 GMT
I mean to can make an argument that Sera already exists in DAO. Not really. It is the Red Jennies we make contact with, so people only assume the person behind the door is Sera. I don't count that as bringing back a minor character. So why bring another former child now adult in the party. For example Bevin? At this length of time? It will be 14/15 years from DAO by the time we play the game. Bevin was a very minor character. He would mean nothing to casual players. In fact, if they were going to bring him back, a cameo in Redcliff in DAI would have been better for recognition because of being associated with the location. Had they done so, there might have been a tenuous enough link for him to appear in a later game. As it is, I think it highly unlikely we will meet minor characters from DAO or even DA2, unless they had a specific connection to the lands in the north and even then I doubt it.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Feb 9, 2023 19:07:33 GMT
Had I only played DAI, she would not strike me as someone familiar I agree Charter would be strange for the average player and also we can´t very likely don´t romance her if she is really a companion but i doubt that. Charter will way more important in DAD than in DAI but she wouldn´t be a companion. Of course that´s the reason why people remember her in DAO. Edit: But speaking of trainers well there are DAI trainers. There are in theory possible but i don´t see the appeal. I don´t include Dagna in my companion speculation because like Josephine i don´t see her as a fighter who can kill dozens of enemies. That Calpernia only show up in the Templar path isn´t a argument against her. The most important part for returning character to be a companion is he / she quantum or not. Calpernia is not so she is still a good candidate. Also what´s the difference between her and DAO Merrill? Is she really dead or could she somehow survived this? Or did had an offscreen death or not? I mean Samson in DA 2 could be dead but DAI ignored this. Now i bring my biggest argument in this discussion. Its the promotion of DAO Merrill into a companion. I bet you would had made the same points for Merrill pre DA 2. Because of Merrill i won´t rule out any non quantum character who could fight of course dozens of enemies. We don´t see one but only hear a laugh of a child. And Sera mentioned that she played with the box. I think its pretty clear that the person in DAO was Sera retrofitted. Why not? After DAO Merrill this wouldn´t be stranger and nice callback for DAO epilogue. And maybe just maybe i can see some player refreshing their memory and replaying the previous games. I agree but not all characters have to mean something to casual players.
Also what does this mean exatly? Casual player? I doubt that the casual players were that interested in the return of DAI Cullen. Remember some folks asking why him of all people? But he had a loyal and loud fanservice.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Feb 9, 2023 19:25:25 GMT
I also think this time we will not see someone familiar from DAI simply returning. I would argue we have always someone returning, but it wasn't the same number in each game from the same medium. So i belive this time no DAI return. If we get someone than only a promotion. And i don't see Varric as Companion as well. Well Bioware don´t reuse romance as companions which mean 9 of the 12 companions and advisors are already not an option. If they consider a former romance well it would Dorian and all speculation would end. Vivienne could be Divine so she is out as well. Also she is not that popular and has no reason to be in Tevinter or Weisshaupt. Cole in theory possible but with his 2 (3 if not recruited) fates well i highly doubt that. Varric is the only real option left but thank god because of the leak we know that we are getting a female dwarven rogue so no room for him.
Bioware could went for a familiar face if they promote a secondary character. And Harding is still the perfect choice for this kind of companion but not the only option which Bioware have. I partyl agree besides Harding and Charter there aren´t that many good options left. Why not it depends on the character.
And one character i have forget to mention is Charade Amell. She has no real connections to the Inquisition and if Bioware want to explore Hawke and his family more (but to be fair i don´t see why would do this Hawke won´t much for many DAD players)
Edit: I don´t think that Tallis (or Gatt) has a good chance to be a companion but there is still a pretty small possibility.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Feb 10, 2023 3:38:11 GMT
We're all hoping the female dwarf rogue is Harding. But what if it's Bianca?
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Feb 10, 2023 3:42:45 GMT
From latest leaks " New comment of interest from the user (thanku @ladymacbethsimp for letting me know!). Someone asked them "can you attribute a single emoji to every companion you saw? like an out of context spoiler kind of thing". They replied "Hmmm I can try…" and posted these three emojis/series of emojis: The screenshots I have included here are screenshots of the same comment from 2 different devices side by side, as emojis/emoji groupings can change appearance depending on OS etc. so.. elf man of color, red hair woman and woman mage?"
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Feb 10, 2023 4:21:22 GMT
From latest leaks " New comment of interest from the user (thanku @ladymacbethsimp for letting me know!). Someone asked them "can you attribute a single emoji to every companion you saw? like an out of context spoiler kind of thing". They replied "Hmmm I can try…" and posted these three emojis/series of emojis: The screenshots I have included here are screenshots of the same comment from 2 different devices side by side, as emojis/emoji groupings can change appearance depending on OS etc. so.. elf man of color, red hair woman and woman mage?" Oh, huh, I guess is Davrin is an elf then? I just assumed he was human! The redheaded lady is presumably Harding. 'Female mage' could be Mae or Calpernia but could also be a completely new person.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Feb 10, 2023 4:27:44 GMT
From latest leaks " New comment of interest from the user (thanku @ladymacbethsimp for letting me know!). Someone asked them "can you attribute a single emoji to every companion you saw? like an out of context spoiler kind of thing". They replied "Hmmm I can try…" and posted these three emojis/series of emojis: The screenshots I have included here are screenshots of the same comment from 2 different devices side by side, as emojis/emoji groupings can change appearance depending on OS etc. so.. elf man of color, red hair woman and woman mage?" Oh, huh, I guess is Davrin is an elf then? I just assumed he was human! The redheaded lady is presumably Harding. 'Female mage' could be Mae or Calpernia but could also be a completely new person.
Calpernia, maybe Francesca Also a high likelihood of being a new character, given that Tevinter is a brand new big bucket of potential.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 10, 2023 4:55:48 GMT
Oh, huh, I guess is Davrin is an elf then? I just assumed he was human! The redheaded lady is presumably Harding. 'Female mage' could be Mae or Calpernia but could also be a completely new person.
Calpernia, maybe Francesca Also a high likelihood of being a new character, given that Tevinter is a brand new big bucket of potential. Highly doubt it is Francesca. She went with Vaea, Autumn, and Fenris south. Also if they used anyone from that comic series, it’d most likely be Vaea since she’s the main character.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 10, 2023 8:40:23 GMT
I doubt that the casual players were that interested in the return of DAI Cullen. Remember some folks asking why him of all people? But he had a loyal and loud fanservice. He wasn't a companion though. He was someone everyone could have met in DAO but his transfer into DA2 as a major NPC seemed unnecessary given it contradicted some of the epilogues to DAO. I never understood why he was so popular to be honest but I accept that was the reason he carried over into a third game. As for Merrill, they didn't just recycle her but the whole clan. That was weird because our foster mother turned up at the end of DAO and the assumption was that the clan was with them and would be heading for the land gifted to the Dalish, when apparently they had headed off for the Freemarches fairly soon after you left them, minus the children (perhaps the clan divided into those who wished to stay in Ferelden and those who followed Marethari). Then in WoT2 they changed the entire backstory for Marethari, so that it contradicted the history we were told about our father, simply in order to explain why she was indebted to Flemeth. Merrill also seemed very different to how I remembered her, so essentially it was different characters with the same names. Then not only does Alistair intimate that the Dalish boon had gone belly up in less than a decade but they made it possible for your entire clan in the Freemarches to be wiped out as well. To be honest, that was one bit of familiarity I could have done without. Meanwhile, for anyone who didn't play the Dalish origin, they were all complete strangers who meant nothing to them.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 10, 2023 8:57:47 GMT
Calpernia is not so she is still a good candidate. Also what´s the difference between her and DAO Merrill? I think I've already explained that in my previous post. I've always considered her a distinct possibility for a return but was just pointing out that she would only be remembered as anything other than a codex entry if you played the Templar path. However, we did see enough of her in that branch that I hope they will be consistent with her character if they do bring her back. On that basis, I find it hard to believe she will still be working with the type of people they have shown in the Venatori in Tevinter Nights, so either she will be a break away group but still in opposition to our PC, or she will have changed her allegiance in the face of the dual threat of the Qunari and the Dread Wolf. " New comment of interest from the user (thanku @ladymacbethsimp for letting me know!). Someone asked them "can you attribute a single emoji to every companion you saw? like an out of context spoiler kind of thing". They replied "Hmmm I can try…" and posted these three emojis/series of emojis: The screenshots I have included here are screenshots of the same comment from 2 different devices side by side, as emojis/emoji groupings can change appearance depending on OS etc. so.. elf man of color, red hair woman and woman mage?" It would seem that one could be a faired haired, dark skined elf male (Strife? or Davrin? - I assumed the latter was human but you never know), one a female dwarf, with red hair possibly (Harding?) and one a female human mage (Calpernia?)
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Post by fairdragon on Feb 10, 2023 9:38:00 GMT
From latest leaks " New comment of interest from the user (thanku @ladymacbethsimp for letting me know!). Someone asked them "can you attribute a single emoji to every companion you saw? like an out of context spoiler kind of thing". They replied "Hmmm I can try…" and posted these three emojis/series of emojis: The screenshots I have included here are screenshots of the same comment from 2 different devices side by side, as emojis/emoji groupings can change appearance depending on OS etc. so.. elf man of color, red hair woman and woman mage?" Oh, huh, I guess is Davrin is an elf then? I just assumed he was human! The redheaded lady is presumably Harding. 'Female mage' could be Mae or Calpernia but could also be a completely new person.
Is Harding a redheaded? For me she has brown hair.
Davrin an elf could be, but I didn't think of that either.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Feb 10, 2023 9:51:16 GMT
Oh, huh, I guess is Davrin is an elf then? I just assumed he was human! The redheaded lady is presumably Harding. 'Female mage' could be Mae or Calpernia but could also be a completely new person.
Is Harding a redheaded? For me she has brown hair.
Hers isn't as bright as Leliana's, but yes, I'd definitely call her a redhead! Keep in mind we're dealing with emojis here which do not necessarily have a whole lot of nuance. Always assuming they're talking about the same companions we've heard about from previous leaks, those are Davrin and a female dwarf rogue plus an unknown mage. So either this is another redheaded female dwarf rogue (which seems kind of unlikely) or its Harding.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 10, 2023 9:52:12 GMT
It can vary according to screen shots but I would call it a russet brown as opposed to straight forward brown. Also she has a lot of freckles that I usually associated with red hair.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Feb 10, 2023 10:07:24 GMT
I think Harding is likely to be one of the companions but I wonder how they make that work with our protagonist needing to be someone Solas doesn't know. If we are hanging out with Varric and Harding that would seem like it'd draw a huge target lol. But hopefully it will make sense in the game.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 10, 2023 10:08:13 GMT
If Davrin turns out to be an elf, then I'm totally sold. I must admit it would make a nice change to have an elven warrior again, rather than a rogue or a mage. Also, may be this time round I won't get my heart broken.
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Post by fairdragon on Feb 10, 2023 10:36:30 GMT
how do you know that a dwarf is meant here?
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Post by fairdragon on Feb 10, 2023 10:43:12 GMT
I think Harding is likely to be one of the companions but I wonder how they make that work with our protagonist needing to be someone Solas doesn't know. If we are hanging out with Varric and Harding that would seem like it'd draw a huge target lol. But hopefully it will make sense in the game. But i read in one of the links here in the forum that the leakers only hear from Varric and Solas as know characters, so Harding would make no sense her.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 10, 2023 10:45:07 GMT
I think Harding is likely to be one of the companions but I wonder how they make that work with our protagonist needing to be someone Solas doesn't know. If we are hanging out with Varric and Harding that would seem like it'd draw a huge target lol. But hopefully it will make sense in the game. But i read in one of the links here in the forum that the leakers only hear from Varric and Solas as know characters, so Harding would make no sense her. That or the leaker simply doesn’t remember Harding. She has a fanbase sure, but she’s not a companion-level character so most probably forgot her (it’s been a decade after all).
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Post by fairdragon on Feb 10, 2023 10:47:01 GMT
One other think to remember they also say 2 are companions and the 3rd is the questgiver.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Feb 10, 2023 10:49:14 GMT
I think Harding is likely to be one of the companions but I wonder how they make that work with our protagonist needing to be someone Solas doesn't know. If we are hanging out with Varric and Harding that would seem like it'd draw a huge target lol. But hopefully it will make sense in the game. But i read in one of the links here in the forum that the leakers only hear from Varric and Solas as know characters, so Harding would make no sense her. To be fair not everyone remembers and talks about minor characters as much as we on the forums do. i know someone who played and finished the game once years ago and he had no idea who i was taking about when i mentioned and then described Harding. And since he recruited mages i don't suppose he's ever seen Calpernia.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 10, 2023 11:14:45 GMT
how do you know that a dwarf is meant here? I'm not too familiar with different emojis, but the large round face made me think dwarf and then the red hair made me think Harding. Anyway, it definitely isn't an elf or a qunari and seems unlikely to be a mage, as they used a different emoji for that. So, female human/dwarf, warrior/rogue. The other leaker also mentioned that one of the companions was a female dwarf rogue, whilst there was an elf warrior build shown (which may or may not be the PC), so I just figured the emoji was referring to the female dwarf.
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Post by Walter Black on Feb 10, 2023 13:30:50 GMT
Calpernia, maybe Francesca Also a high likelihood of being a new character, given that Tevinter is a brand new big bucket of potential. Highly doubt it is Francesca. She went with Vaea, Autumn, and Fenris south. Also if they used anyone from that comic series, it’d most likely be Vaea since she’s the main character. Not necessarily. In ORIGINS Isabella was a minor quest giver, and Merril was just an Origin Companion with no indication we might see again.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 10, 2023 15:28:20 GMT
Highly doubt it is Francesca. She went with Vaea, Autumn, and Fenris south. Also if they used anyone from that comic series, it’d most likely be Vaea since she’s the main character. Not necessarily. In ORIGINS Isabella was a minor quest giver, and Merril was just an Origin Companion with no indication we might see again. There is always a possibility sure, but between everything the comic writers told us and how the story ended I just think that they won’t appear as companions and if one did it wouldn’t be her.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Feb 10, 2023 18:52:24 GMT
From latest leaks " New comment of interest from the user (thanku @ladymacbethsimp for letting me know!). Someone asked them "can you attribute a single emoji to every companion you saw? like an out of context spoiler kind of thing". They replied "Hmmm I can try…" and posted these three emojis/series of emojis: The screenshots I have included here are screenshots of the same comment from 2 different devices side by side, as emojis/emoji groupings can change appearance depending on OS etc. so.. elf man of color, red hair woman and woman mage?" Very interessing i always assume that Davrin has to be a man of color because it would match his voice actor. But i don´t imagine him as elf. Also the screenshot leaker doesn´t mention him as an elf. Strange. But interesting if true. Would be the first non human male grey warden companion in a main game.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Feb 10, 2023 18:59:19 GMT
Is Harding a redheaded? For me she has brown hair.
I don´t think this matters at this time of development. Remember this redhead Varric from the character kits?
I think Harding is likely to be one of the companions but I wonder how they make that work with our protagonist needing to be someone Solas doesn't know. If we are hanging out with Varric and Harding that would seem like it'd draw a huge target lol. But hopefully it will make sense in the game. Maybe she is one of the recruiters, or Solas didn´t noticed Harding that much or maybe the whole game isn´t just about Solas. There are Red Lyrium Darkspawn, also the Venatori plus the Qunari.
Also plans can change. I don´t think that in Trespasser they had plans in using Varric in the next Dragon Age again. His story seems finished but no he isn´t done.
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