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Post by TheodoricFriede on Aug 6, 2018 7:49:41 GMT
I think they could do it, and faster then 2 years.
Its going to depend on how financially successful this move is for No Mans Sky Next. If it results in a massive influx of money as well as good will, it will likely become the new trend in the games industry. For better or worse. (And in EA's case, thats usually worse.)
I'd like it to happen. But I think the chances are slim. Not impossible, just slim.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 9:08:25 GMT
If, despite all of that, BioWare was indeed going to release a ME:A 'Next' update/expansion, it would have to go a long, long, long way to redeem this title and set it up to par with just the very first Mass Effect title let alone the trilogy (IMHO). For starters, they would have to go back and make the Helius Cluster, and Andromeda in general, a whole lot more 'alien' than how it is now; and no, I don't mean adding in a new purple, bi-sexual alien for players to romance. Mass Effect 1 set up a galaxy that was far more unique and unfamiliar than anything we see in Andromeda. The overall writing and tone of the game would need a complete overhaul as well. We don't need it to be dark and brooding like ME 3 was, but the constant quips and unimaginative jokes, and near-constant humor was even more annoying; especially when the introduction sets up things being as dire as they are with the condition of the Arks. Plus the team would need more intellectually focused science fiction writers back at the helm, like Chris L'Etoile, and less 'Rule of Cool' creators, like Mac Walters. I would like my Mass Effects with more thought put into them than mere soapboxing and setting up romances honestly.
I was about to write the same thing but damn you nailed it for me. Especially about the writing. I want more Sci-fi and less Fantasy in space. I would like if BW could step up the level of the writing to have more depth and lore.
This is my view of course but to be honest I would prefer if they scrap Andromeda altogether and return to the Milky Way post-reaper invasion. They could canonize or mix one or two of the endings to create a viable universe.
We would see a deeply fractured Milky Way, where we try to restablish communication and civilization after the onslaught. Banditism, piracy and remnants of indoctrinated enemies are making the everyday life an hell. A new Council is set trying to rebuild society yet the road ahead is dark and full of peril.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 6, 2018 12:02:55 GMT
I think they could do it, and faster then 2 years. Its going to depend on how financially successful this move is for No Mans Sky Next. If it results in a massive influx of money as well as good will, it will likely become the new trend in the games industry. For better or worse. (And in EA's case, thats usually worse.) I'd like it to happen. But I think the chances are slim. Not impossible, just slim. They did it faster then two years, they did in in four to five months with patch 1.10. If you want to do a direct comparison is that patch 1.10 for Andromeda is the state the game should have launched in while Next is the state that No Man's Sky should have launched in. What people are asking for with Andromeda anymore in either overhauling key systems of the game or new content that would require a lot of time and money to create such as a new race. Which is more along the lines of a paid expansion over a patch to the game.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 6, 2018 12:06:20 GMT
If, despite all of that, BioWare was indeed going to release a ME:A 'Next' update/expansion, it would have to go a long, long, long way to redeem this title and set it up to par with just the very first Mass Effect title let alone the trilogy (IMHO). For starters, they would have to go back and make the Helius Cluster, and Andromeda in general, a whole lot more 'alien' than how it is now; and no, I don't mean adding in a new purple, bi-sexual alien for players to romance. Mass Effect 1 set up a galaxy that was far more unique and unfamiliar than anything we see in Andromeda. The overall writing and tone of the game would need a complete overhaul as well. We don't need it to be dark and brooding like ME 3 was, but the constant quips and unimaginative jokes, and near-constant humor was even more annoying; especially when the introduction sets up things being as dire as they are with the condition of the Arks. Plus the team would need more intellectually focused science fiction writers back at the helm, like Chris L'Etoile, and less 'Rule of Cool' creators, like Mac Walters. I would like my Mass Effects with more thought put into them than mere soapboxing and setting up romances honestly.
I was about to write the same thing but damn you nailed it for me. Especially about the writing. I want more Sci-fi and less Fantasy in space. I would like if BW could step up the level of the writing to have more depth and lore.
This is my view of course but to be honest I would prefer if they scrap Andromeda altogether and return to the Milky Way post-reaper invasion. They could canonize or mix one or two of the endings to create a viable universe.
We would see a deeply fractured Milky Way, where we try to restablish communication and civilization after the onslaught. Banditism, piracy and remnants of indoctrinated enemies are making the everyday life an hell. A new Council is set trying to rebuild society yet the road ahead is dark and full of peril.
I don't want to return to the Milky Way for I don't want to deal with all the entitled players commenting about how BioWare betrayed them with any type of canon ending. I remember all the angered off players when they made Uldina the canon representative for Earth in Mass Effect 3 and how that was "not respecting our choices" I cannot imagine the type of response people would give when BioWare touches the big keystone changes to the game and that is the only way going back to any part of the Milky Way we know would work.
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Post by Vortex13 on Aug 6, 2018 12:22:03 GMT
Yeah, I really hate the situation that BioWare left the Milky Way in at the end of ME 3. Nothing quite like torching the franchise and running, to then have to go back and try and pick through the ashes after the fact, to make something as out of left field like "What if we went to Andromeda?" seem plausible.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Aug 6, 2018 12:51:04 GMT
They did it faster then two years, they did in in four to five months with patch 1.10. If you want to do a direct comparison is that patch 1.10 for Andromeda is the state the game should have launched in while Next is the state that No Man's Sky should have launched in. That is hilariously inaccurate.
No Mans Sky is a SIGNIFICANT update. Its not a few bug fixes, animation changes, and making a straight character bi.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 6, 2018 13:36:34 GMT
Not happening. The speed they ditched it and the strongly suggested Quarian DLC - they don't touch this with a long pole anymore.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Aug 6, 2018 14:20:04 GMT
If, despite all of that, BioWare was indeed going to release a ME:A 'Next' update/expansion, it would have to go a long, long, long way to redeem this title and set it up to par with just the very first Mass Effect title let alone the trilogy (IMHO). For starters, they would have to go back and make the Helius Cluster, and Andromeda in general, a whole lot more 'alien' than how it is now; and no, I don't mean adding in a new purple, bi-sexual alien for players to romance. Mass Effect 1 set up a galaxy that was far more unique and unfamiliar than anything we see in Andromeda.
What do mean by more "alien"?
More stuff fantasy-like stuff like the floating the rocks on Habitat 7? More technological sci-fi like the Remnant vaults?
More alien plants and animals?
Because IMHO Andromeda was more weird and unusual than ME1 was which was mostly a giant space station, some derelict ships, barren planets that, and a bunch of recycled mines, bases, and barren and lifeless locations.
ME1 was just a massive exposition dump setting up the universe with more dialogue that was clunky and boring that did nothing to establish characters other than tell players about their races, governments, politics, religion, history, biology, and so on.
The few times there is actual humor it is groaning and some of the dialogue is plain awful like Meer's dialogue leading up to sex scene with Liara.
BTW Liara and the asari consort are blue bisexual aliens for Shepard to fuck.
It also had it fair share of soap boxing like the protestors saying stuff like "No blood for aliens." and "Earth first!" yeah that was BioWare making a political statement about the war on terror, drugs, poverty, or conservatives still being useless pieces of shit in the ME just like in real life.
Lets not forget the terrible inventory and combat systems, a pretty much useless weapon and armor customization, a crappy tank that sucked a lot of the fun of driving around, massive framerate drops, long graphical load times that were never patched or fixed (unlike the animation problems that everyone bitched about in MEA that BioWare did fix by the way), the above mentioned recycled environments, I mean everyone complains about that in regards to DA2 but I can forgive that in DA2 because it's a flashback story told by unreliable narrator and set in the same area for 10 years what is the reasons to excuse that ME1?
So please take off the nostalgia glasses, MEA was everything that ME1 needed, wanted, and should've been and never was. If ME1 was released today it would be a six out of ten at best.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 15:15:34 GMT
Bioware Needs to leave EA !! Why? EA Is the downfall for Bioware !!
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 6, 2018 16:16:34 GMT
They did it faster then two years, they did in in four to five months with patch 1.10. If you want to do a direct comparison is that patch 1.10 for Andromeda is the state the game should have launched in while Next is the state that No Man's Sky should have launched in. That is hilariously inaccurate.
No Mans Sky is a SIGNIFICANT update. Its not a few bug fixes, animation changes, and making a straight character bi.
What does that have to do with what you quoted? BioWare released what they said they would with the launch version of the game with 1.10 just like that is what Next is for No Man's Sky. If you want more then that its not a "next" version of the game its giving you more content they never promised.
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Post by Vortex13 on Aug 6, 2018 16:56:48 GMT
If, despite all of that, BioWare was indeed going to release a ME:A 'Next' update/expansion, it would have to go a long, long, long way to redeem this title and set it up to par with just the very first Mass Effect title let alone the trilogy (IMHO). For starters, they would have to go back and make the Helius Cluster, and Andromeda in general, a whole lot more 'alien' than how it is now; and no, I don't mean adding in a new purple, bi-sexual alien for players to romance. Mass Effect 1 set up a galaxy that was far more unique and unfamiliar than anything we see in Andromeda.
What do mean by more "alien"?
More stuff fantasy-like stuff like the floating the rocks on Habitat 7? More technological sci-fi like the Remnant vaults?
More alien plants and animals?
Because IMHO Andromeda was more weird and unusual than ME1 was which was mostly a giant space station, some derelict ships, barren planets that, and a bunch of recycled mines, bases, and barren and lifeless locations.
ME1 was just a massive exposition dump setting up the universe with more dialogue that was clunky and boring that did nothing to establish characters other than tell players about their races, governments, politics, religion, history, biology, and so on.
The few times there is actual humor it is groaning and some of the dialogue is plain awful like Meer's dialogue leading up to sex scene with Liara.
BTW Liara and the asari consort are blue bisexual aliens for Shepard to fuck.
It also had it fair share of soap boxing like the protestors saying stuff like "No blood for aliens." and "Earth first!" yeah that was BioWare making a political statement about the war on terror, drugs, poverty, or conservatives still being useless pieces of shit in the ME just like in real life.
Lets not forget the terrible inventory and combat systems, a pretty much useless weapon and armor customization, a crappy tank that sucked a lot of the fun of driving around, massive framerate drops, long graphical load times that were never patched or fixed (unlike the animation problems that everyone bitched about in MEA that BioWare did fix by the way), the above mentioned recycled environments, I mean everyone complains about that in regards to DA2 but I can forgive that in DA2 because it's a flashback story told by unreliable narrator and set in the same area for 10 years what is the reasons to excuse that ME1?
So please take off the nostalgia glasses, MEA was everything that ME1 needed, wanted, and should've been and never was. If ME1 was released today it would be a six out of ten at best. To address the graphical fidelity points first. Oh sure Andromeda looks more bright and colorful; its textures, models, and yes, even animations (after the patches) are all generally better than ME 1. The maps are bigger, and the load times are quicker, that's all true. However, one needs to also remember that ME 1 is ten years older than the most recent title, which benefits from increases in processing power and other hardware improvements. Ten years, a decade of advancement and refinement of game design efficiencies and general technology. To say that Andromeda looks better than the first title is meaningless in this regard since the same can be said when comparing any other modern game to an older release. The Legend of Zelda: The Orciana of Time looks and runs like crap when compared to Breath of the Wild, and it didn't have the benefit of patches either. In terms of UI and inventory management yes, in general, ME: A did a better job than ME 1. Though that is, again, tied to BioWare refining what was already in place as they have produced more titles. ME 1 was the first game in what would become one of their flagship series, and arguably one of the first 'modern' Action-RPGs they produced; KOTOR and Jade Empire were still too strongly tied to older styles of RPGs (not that that is a bad thing). What's more, I never said that the UI and inventory management was what made ME 1 better than ME:A. Now on to the meat of your post: Our tastes obviously differ on the quality of the 'exposition dump' of the various aliens that ME 1 introduced, but in terms of sheer world building ME 1 has Andromeda beat by miles. A brand new IP and BioWare is able to deliver not only on setting up the universe, but also populating it with a myriad of sapient alien races, all created from scratch. The Turians, Asari, Salarians, Quarians, and Volus were the more human-like aliens, and already constituted a sizable investment of creative focus, but then Bioware then goes a step beyond that. In addition to all the human-like species present in the galaxy, they also bring in the distinctly 'alien' aliens (and not just in terms of appearance, though that was also included) in the form of the Elcor, Hanar, Thorian, and Rachni. They then go even a step further and, while not completely fleshed out in ME 1, bring in other races like the Geth, Reapers, and Protheans. These last three were mostly background/antagonists but they were all present in-game along with nods to there being more depth behind them. Rounding all of this out, the Bring Down The Sky DLC introduced us to the Batarians, another human-like species, but one with their own backstory and lore. So to sum up: ME 1, which is having to create an entirely new IP, as well as being one of BioWare's first modern Action-RPGs, still manages to populate the setting with 12 original alien species, 13 if you count the Batarians. Each has their own background lore and each, even the more human ones, have a little something that helps distinguish them from entirely being humans in rubber costumes. Even the Asari, the resident space babes of ME, heavily featured their rather 'alien' nature as being mono-genered, and possessing quasi-telephatic powers. ME:A, on the other hand, despite riding on the foundations laid by games like ME 1, only manages to add in 3 new aliens, 4 if you want to separate the Remnant and Jardaan; though I would contest that since, unlike the Protheans with Vigil or the Reapers with Sovereign, we never actually interact with them, and they are merely a codex entry. This leaves the Remnant, the Khet, and the Angara. The robotic Remnant are… well robotic. They have zero personality, and act more like highly advanced interstellar roombas than any sapient 'alien' intelligence. Even the Geth in ME 1, while being relegated to antagonists, had little nods like their shrine and act of worshiping Sovereign as a god to distinguish them from being mindless robots. Even the VI terminals Shepard and Co. interact with in ME 1 have more 'life' to them than the Remnant drones do. The Khet, are arguably the closest thing Andromeda has to aliens, but all of that potential is squandered in-game. Instead of utilizing the concept of exhalation to explore how a society that, in essence, was a virus would operate BioWare instead just uses it as a magical mind control serum that turns NPCs evil, and offers it as a lousy excuse for the player to be fighting waves of mindless minions throughout the game. Even the Archon, the most "developed" Khet character, fails to incorporate any of that non-human element into his depictions or interactions with the player. Instead he is very human in his approach to things; well that not's not entirely fair. The sheer incompetence his character displayed throughout the game left him lower than your generic Saturday morning cartoon villain. As is, the Khet are a lousy knock-off version of the Collectors, albeit without the foundation of a race like the Reapers to prop them up. The Angara are humans. Humans in bright purple/blue body paint, but humans. In fact, I would say that out of all the human-like aliens in the franchise, they have to be the closest to us; so much so, that you could literally replace them with humans and nothing about them or their culture would change, as how they are depicted in Andromeda. Their culture is a perfect mirror to ours, and the only thing that we are told that somehow sets them apart from us humans is that they tend to have big families, occasionally believe in reincarnation, and are "highly emotional". Sounds more like a Hindu teenage girl, than some alien species that evolved in a galaxy two million lightyears away. Any mention of differing biologies is background static, and immediately forgotten once the player finishes with the First Contact scenes. Indeed, the only real focus that BioWare seems to have put into them is making sure that they are just bi-sexual f**kbuddies; seeing as how that was the last piece of content the dev team graced the single player side of the game with, if the whole #makeJaalBi debacle is anything to go by. Speaking of trending social topics and the inclusion of politics, ME:A is far more hamfisted and forced in it's approach to things than ME 1 was. Sure, all the nods to things like Terra First and alien racism was present, but it was all interwoven into the narrative and world building of the universe. Andromeda, on the other hand, goes out of it's way to put in characters and conversations solely to bring attention to whatever SJW topic they were soapboxing about. Random NPC that talks about being transgendered, Asari that are lecturing Angara about using their preferred pronouns, and the aforementioned #makeJaalBi. Those are cringe inducing callbacks to the real world, and most assuredly, to human topics. Humans are the most boring part of any science fiction or fantasy setting they are a part of (IMO) and yet, here we are putting this fictional universe, filled with aliens and FTL travel, on hold so that trending social/political talking points can be marked off a checkbox. As for the humor. Andromeda was far too derivative of the Citadel DLC (of which I personally disliked), but unlike that DLC it didn't have the foundation of three previous games and in-game relationships to build off of. As it is the campiness and humor is far too light hearted, especially when taken in light of how dire things are with the Arks and the colonists at the start of the game, to feel 'earned' or even in-line with the narrative.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 6, 2018 19:52:09 GMT
So people are seriously complaining about the “social justice” in ME:A?
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Post by smilesja on Aug 6, 2018 19:53:18 GMT
And besides ME: A had plenty of darkness and seriousness.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Aug 6, 2018 19:59:12 GMT
What does that have to do with what you quoted? BioWare released what they said they would with the launch version of the game with 1.10 just like that is what Next is for No Man's Sky. If you want more then that its not a "next" version of the game its giving you more content they never promised. Buddy. Pal...
Do your self a favor and look up what No Mans Sky Next ACTUALLY is before you comment any further.
You are embarrassing yourself.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 6, 2018 20:08:46 GMT
So people are seriously complaining about the “social justice” in ME:A? The complaints aren't even accurate, like them making the angara all bisexual sexfriends when one of the two Angaran romance options is neither bisexual or even have sex in her romance.
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Post by sil on Aug 6, 2018 20:16:53 GMT
So people are seriously complaining about the “social justice” in ME:A? Mostly the shitty, pointless retcon of the asari from monogendered females, to blue humans who think they can identify as a gender that doesn't exist for them. It's like a human identifying as a cocoon.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Aug 6, 2018 20:28:31 GMT
Mostly the shitty, pointless retcon of the asari from monogendered females, to blue humans who think they can identify as a gender that doesn't exist for them. It's like a human identifying as a cocoon. These days I just pretend its that asari blowing smoke up the angaran diplomats ass.
"Oh yes yes, the Milky Way species are all wonderful and tolerant! You should share all your technology with us and not try to blow up our almost completely defenseless Hub of Pseudo-Government!"
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Post by Vortex13 on Aug 6, 2018 20:33:36 GMT
Which is another point in favor of the Andromeda Initiative all being complete morons. 'Let's all travel to Andromeda in ships and transports with zero defensive armaments. We'll also remove the weapons from our ground vehicles and orbital shuttles because nothing we have seen in our own galaxy points to violence, and the need to defend oneself, being anything we could possibly foresee needing when cut off from all assistance two million lightyears away.'
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 6, 2018 20:40:44 GMT
The Initiative was hardly defenseless. Sure the Arks didn't have any guns built into them, but they had several squadrons of fighters each. There was also ground weaponry like turrets and even the ability to make combat mech suits.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Aug 6, 2018 20:42:50 GMT
The Initiative was hardly defenseless. Sure the Arks didn't have any guns built into them, but they had several squadrons of fighters each. I said 'almost'.
I just think the angara could have wiped them out if they wanted to.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 6, 2018 20:43:37 GMT
The Initiative was hardly defenseless. Sure the Arks didn't have any guns built into them, but they had several squadrons of fighters each. I said 'almost'.
I just think the angara could have wiped them out if they wanted to.
That response was more to Vortex's post than yours.
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Post by Vortex13 on Aug 6, 2018 20:52:23 GMT
The Initiative was hardly defenseless. Sure the Arks didn't have any guns built into them, but they had several squadrons of fighters each. There was also ground weaponry like turrets and even the ability to make combat mech suits. And just counting on several squadrons of fighters, ground-based anti-personnel turrets, and bulky mech suits to protect the entire population traveling to Andromeda was all perfectly fine to Initiative backers? If that was the defenses for a voyage to anywhere in the Milky Way they would be been attacked and destroyed by Batarian and Vorcha pirates before they even finished transitioning into the next Mass Relay. Yet despite that very observational truth in their own home galaxy, the AI personnel felt that such practically non-existent protection was adequate for when they would be making the trip to Andromeda? Like I said, they are morons. Or either so hopelessly incompetent at their jobs that it would amount to the same thing.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 6, 2018 20:56:03 GMT
The Initiative was hardly defenseless. Sure the Arks didn't have any guns built into them, but they had several squadrons of fighters each. There was also ground weaponry like turrets and even the ability to make combat mech suits. And just counting on several squadrons of fighters, ground-based anti-personnel turrets, and bulky mech suits to protect the entire population traveling to Andromeda was all perfectly fine to Initiative backers? If that was the defenses for a voyage to anywhere in the Milky Way they would be been attacked and destroyed by Batarian and Vorcha pirates before they even finished transitioning into the next Mass Relay. Yet despite that very observational truth in their own home galaxy, the AI personnel felt that such practically non-existent protection was adequate for when they would be making the trip to Andromeda? Like I said, they are morons. Or either so hopelessly incompetent at their jobs that it would amount to the same thing. We should also note that that was all they had left. For example the Tempest was the only exploratory frigate to survive the Scourge. They could have had frigates stored aboard the Nexus as well, hidden just in case. Plus really from what we've seen and read in both our history and the lore of Mass Effect having a good fighter force is all you need to win a battle.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Aug 6, 2018 21:10:13 GMT
ANYWAY in terms of what they could add in a Next style patch...
Children - They could just remove that whole "no sex until marriage to a planet" thing. That was dumb, and only tied to one mission with an awful woman anyway. There was a bunch of concept art for kids in Andromeda. The idea at least crossed their minds at some point.
'Never mind, The Quarian Ark launched on time' - That book is never coming out. Just scrap it and integrate the other species into some quests and ambient areas.
Base building - Why not? No Mans Sky Next added it. They flirted with the idea with Eos. Military vs Research. Expand on it.
More alien sex and nudity - That ones for me.
Just a few ideas. An Andromeda Next wouldn't be a sequel. It wouldn't be DLC. It would be a series of aesthetic and gameplay changes to try to flesh out the overall experience.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 6, 2018 21:31:58 GMT
What does that have to do with what you quoted? BioWare released what they said they would with the launch version of the game with 1.10 just like that is what Next is for No Man's Sky. If you want more then that its not a "next" version of the game its giving you more content they never promised. Buddy. Pal...
Do your self a favor and look up what No Mans Sky Next ACTUALLY is before you comment any further.
You are embarrassing yourself.
I am not embarrassing myself at all. I am giving my opinion that No Man's Sky with the Next patch is finally what Hello Games promised us two years ago. Now you are welcome to not agree, but the places I have looked that is all this comes across as and talk about how the game is finally out of Early Access.
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