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Post by leep on Aug 18, 2018 11:07:39 GMT
OK. Sarah Ryder is level 8 and I had VERY hard time to defeat him (more than 12 times). Somebody suggested I should shoot the orb and not the sphere surround him but it is not easy. So is level 8 is good enough to beat him ? My armor has not been upgraded and I used the N7 Valkyrie assault rifle I and the pistol Carnifex.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 18, 2018 11:09:44 GMT
Archon: Shoot the orb until it explodes, shoot archons head until it dies. Repeat from beginning when bubble and orb appears.
Aim, shoot, use powers, move, repeat.
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Post by link2twenty on Aug 18, 2018 11:30:26 GMT
Are you sure you mean the Archon?
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Post by urkibalurki on Aug 18, 2018 11:54:07 GMT
How the [beeeep] did you get to Archon at only level 8? And Archon has no orbs.
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Post by link2twenty on Aug 18, 2018 12:01:18 GMT
How the [beeeep] did you get to Archon at only level 8? And Archon has no orbs. I think they mean the Cardinal on Voeld after the 'prison' break. That's just a guess though.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Aug 18, 2018 12:04:55 GMT
As the above user said archon doesn't have orbs and at only level 8 i'm sorry but it's very very low, unless you didn't do sidequests and only rushed through the story.
Maybe you mean the mini bosses on the kett bases like the cardinal. These are the only ones that have an orb that protects them. All you have to do is to shoot the orb, and then shoot him and then repeat.
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Post by urkibalurki on Aug 18, 2018 12:10:38 GMT
Humpf. Judging from this post, this guy is only trolling around. Maybe I'm getting it wrong, but...
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 18, 2018 12:44:28 GMT
Ah. Archon.. whats that orb bastard.. Cardinal is the orb bastard? Ascendant. Yes. /me exits thread silently *poof*
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Post by leep on Aug 18, 2018 13:11:39 GMT
Are they twins. It seems easy to kill Archon after beating the Cardinal. Not sure why ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 15:08:55 GMT
OK. Sarah Ryder is level 8 and I had VERY hard time to defeat him (more than 12 times). Somebody suggested I should shoot the orb and not the sphere surround him but it is not easy. So is level 8 is good enough to beat him ? My armor has not been upgraded and I used the N7 Valkyrie assault rifle I and the pistol Carnifex. It sounds like you were fighting an Ascendant, not the Archon himself. I find it easiest to use a sniper rifle on the ascendants orbs and maintain my distance. Depending on which ascendant you're fighting, you'll also have to watch for other enemies that spawn in the room (Annointed can be particularly troublesome as they'll ambush you with their assault rifles as you're concentrating on the Ascendant). One strategy that works well for me is to tell both my squad mates to focus their attacks on the ascendant while I clear the room of annointed and chosen. Once the ascendant is without minions, it is pretty easy to whittle away at his shield without worrying about taking damage yourself.
As for Level 8... it's probably a little low in that your squad mates are probably not yet tough enough to take on the focused attack strategy without dying too quickly to be much help and it's easy for you to get overwhelmed with Annointed if you're left fighting alone... and getting to your squad to revive them can also cause you to get killed fairly easily. If this is your first encounter with an Ascendant, you've got a fair bit of the game left before you reach the final battle... and you certainly won't be actually be confronting the Archon before then
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 18, 2018 15:14:59 GMT
With Singularity and Lance it is possible to get Ascendant stay down for a while, then one can shoot it and use lance again. The trick here is singularity explosion variant. Shoot orb until last millimeter of health, launch singularity, shoot if necessary * orb explodes * -> lance -> disable singularity (it explodes) -> Ascendant flies to the ground -> shoot -> lance -> shoot until it dies.
Other method I know is to kill the Orb and use Snap Freeze on Ascendant to get it drop down to the ground. Same rules apply.
In multiplayer I use Commandos Warp after singularity.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 18, 2018 16:15:59 GMT
The orb is easy to target when it's about to fire, since it stops moving to charge up. It's safe since the charge period is long, as long as nobody else is shooting at you.
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Post by leep on Aug 18, 2018 20:59:27 GMT
I just shot at him and not his head or his orb. And he died. It took a while but he still went down. I am not sure as someone said that first shoot at the orb, then shoot at his head in two big steps. Both are difficult to do. Not sure it is the right way.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Aug 18, 2018 21:44:31 GMT
I just shot at him and not his head or his orb. And he died. It took a while but he still went down. I am not sure as someone said that first shoot at the orb, then shoot at his head in two big steps. Both are difficult to do. Not sure it is the right way. It all depends on profiles and which powers you use to make combos. Difficulty also plays a big role.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 1:07:00 GMT
I just shot at him and not his head or his orb. And he died. It took a while but he still went down. I am not sure as someone said that first shoot at the orb, then shoot at his head in two big steps. Both are difficult to do. Not sure it is the right way. <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.960000000000036px; height: 3.1400000000000006px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_494141" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.1400000000000006"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 3.14px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_1516679" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.1400000000000006"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 3.14px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 98px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_39604894" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.1400000000000006"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 3.14px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: 98px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_18423908" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.1400000000000006"></iframe> You have to take the shield down before any shots will do damage to the Ascendant's health. Head shots will do more damage than body shots in most games and ME:A is no exception. The "orb" is the head shot equivalent for the shield. If you shoot the orb, you do more damage per shot to the shield and it will go down quicker than if you just generally shoot at the shield. Similarly, if you shoot any enemy's head while their shields are down, you will kill them with fewer shots than if you just shoot their body. If you're using biotic powers or power combos though, that's a completely different thing.
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Post by leep on Aug 19, 2018 1:56:28 GMT
Your explanations are all good. For example, head shot does more damage than body shot. But when you shoot at the other guy you don't need to aim so boom, boom, boom you got 3 shots in perhaps it counts more that one good head shot. Unless you use a sniper rifle.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 4:14:54 GMT
Your explanations are all good. For example, head shot does more damage than body shot. But when you shoot at the other guy you don't need to aim so boom, boom, boom you got 3 shots in perhaps it counts more that one good head shot. Unless you use a sniper rifle. Doesn't it depend on how good you are at aiming a sniper rifle quickly? The shots that hit the orb and head will consistently do more damage than the shots that miss. You can play any game using the straight "spray and pray" method and eventually the enemies will go down. If that's your play style, play it that way. Me, I prefer something more precise. How many shots you take depends on what exact gun you're using, what level it is, how is it modded, how have you allocated your skill points, and what difficulty level you're playing at. If you're claiming to have taken down an Ascendant with 3 shots without hitting the orb or the head on any Normal or above difficulty, I'd need video to believe you.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 19, 2018 12:26:08 GMT
As the above user said archon doesn't have orbs and at only level 8 i'm sorry but it's very very low, unless you didn't do sidequests and only rushed through the story. Maybe you mean the mini bosses on the kett bases like the cardinal. These are the only ones that have an orb that protects them. All you have to do is to shoot the orb, and then shoot him and then repeat. yeah blast the orb and then blast him that's how you deal with Ascendant enemies and repeat as necessary if he brings up a new one. Admittedly the ascendants can be tough at first but once you know their tricks they're not too bad. The other thing I would also suggest is don't let them get too close to you if it looks like it's trying to close in on you then move and stay out of it's way because with that one hit kill they have they're even more dangerous close in. Alternatively if you have one shoot it with a Cobra RPG as that'll take it down quick .Cobra' s are quite rare though and expensive especially early in the game so you may not have one yet.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Aug 19, 2018 12:29:36 GMT
As the above user said archon doesn't have orbs and at only level 8 i'm sorry but it's very very low, unless you didn't do sidequests and only rushed through the story. Maybe you mean the mini bosses on the kett bases like the cardinal. These are the only ones that have an orb that protects them. All you have to do is to shoot the orb, and then shoot him and then repeat. yeah blast the orb and then blast him that's how you deal with Ascendant enemies and repeat as necessary if he brings up a new one. Admittedly the ascendants can be tough at first but once you know their tricks they're not too bad. The other thing I would also suggest is don't let them get too close to you if it looks like it's trying to close in on you then move and stay out of it's way because with that one hit kill they have they're even more dangerous close in. Alternatively if you have one shoot it with a Cobra RPG as that'll take it down quick .Cobra' s are quite rare though and expensive especially early in the game so you may not have one yet. I got caught by an ascendant 2-3 times.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 19, 2018 12:40:32 GMT
yeah blast the orb and then blast him that's how you deal with Ascendant enemies and repeat as necessary if he brings up a new one. Admittedly the ascendants can be tough at first but once you know their tricks they're not too bad. The other thing I would also suggest is don't let them get too close to you if it looks like it's trying to close in on you then move and stay out of it's way because with that one hit kill they have they're even more dangerous close in. Alternatively if you have one shoot it with a Cobra RPG as that'll take it down quick .Cobra' s are quite rare though and expensive especially early in the game so you may not have one yet. I got caught by an ascendant 2-3 times. yeah I got caught a few times in my first couple of playhtroughs but then I didn't know it could do that at that time. I occasionally still do but in those occasions it's usually because I'm not paying attention to him as I'm trying to take out one of his minions or something. But generally when an Ascendant is on the field I try to take it out ASAP and it's rare that it succeeds in taking me out now.
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As the above user said archon doesn't have orbs and at only level 8 i'm sorry but it's very very low, unless you didn't do sidequests and only rushed through the story. Maybe you mean the mini bosses on the kett bases like the cardinal. These are the only ones that have an orb that protects them. All you have to do is to shoot the orb, and then shoot him and then repeat. yeah blast the orb and then blast him that's how you deal with Ascendant enemies and repeat as necessary if he brings up a new one. Admittedly the ascendants can be tough at first but once you know their tricks they're not too bad. The other thing I would also suggest is don't let them get too close to you if it looks like it's trying to close in on you then move and stay out of it's way because with that one hit kill they have they're even more dangerous close in. Alternatively if you have one shoot it with a Cobra RPG as that'll take it down quick .Cobra' s are quite rare though and expensive especially early in the game so you may not have one yet. I can't believe I forgot about using a Cobra RPG.
OP, I apologize... the fastest way to take out any enemy in the game is by using a Cobra RPG. It will one shot most of the big enemies on normal and do significant damage to them on insanity. Each shot will cost you over 2,000 credits unless you're lucky enough to find enough of them as loot. Taking the munitions cryo perk on Tempest will get a few of them and the Strike Teams loot boxes seem to drop them a little more frequently.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 19, 2018 19:00:01 GMT
Note that Cobra RPGs have very limited availability in shops, so you may not be able to buy them even if you've got the credits.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 20:05:40 GMT
Note that Cobra RPGs have very limited availability in shops, so you may not be able to buy them even if you've got the credits. This is true. I've found that Clancy on Eos quite often has one in his inventory though. Once you establish Prodomos, the vendor there also occasionally has them for sale (although not usually as frequently as Clancy).
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 19, 2018 20:50:06 GMT
yeah blast the orb and then blast him that's how you deal with Ascendant enemies and repeat as necessary if he brings up a new one. Admittedly the ascendants can be tough at first but once you know their tricks they're not too bad. The other thing I would also suggest is don't let them get too close to you if it looks like it's trying to close in on you then move and stay out of it's way because with that one hit kill they have they're even more dangerous close in. Alternatively if you have one shoot it with a Cobra RPG as that'll take it down quick .Cobra' s are quite rare though and expensive especially early in the game so you may not have one yet. I can't believe I forgot about using a Cobra RPG.
OP, I apologize... the fastest way to take out any enemy in the game is by using a Cobra RPG. It will one shot most of the big enemies on normal and do significant damage to them on insanity. Each shot will cost you over 2,000 credits unless you're lucky enough to find enough of them as loot. Taking the munitions cryo perk on Tempest will get a few of them and the Strike Teams loot boxes seem to drop them a little more frequently. yeah I know that's why I said that plus 2000 credits is quite a lot in the game so even if they are available they can be quiet expensive .Worth though especially later on when you do have to take on tougher enemies.
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