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Post by saandrig on Jan 19, 2019 10:49:53 GMT
OH! and I almost forgot again I loved the unarmed combat I did in the Pankration. It might be something work exploring for DA or even AC but then I am dubious that it could work, relastically, in most situations what with people armored with full plate. I mean I guess technically Rogue Hawke employed martial arts a little in DA 2. Well, AC Syndicate has this type of "sort of" unarmed combat if you picked brass knuckles as your main weapon. Pretty much the go to weapon for my Jacob. Brass knuckles
Of course you can always go back to games like Jade Empire or Sleeping Dogs if you want loads of unarmed combat. I hope next AC installment also offers more variety in this department.
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Post by Element Zero on Jan 19, 2019 16:07:10 GMT
OH! and I almost forgot again I loved the unarmed combat I did in the Pankration. It might be something work exploring for DA or even AC but then I am dubious that it could work, relastically, in most situations what with people armored with full plate. I mean I guess technically Rogue Hawke employed martial arts a little in DA 2. Well, AC Syndicate has this type of "sort of" unarmed combat if you picked brass knuckles as your main weapon. Pretty much the go to weapon for my Jacob. Brass knuckles
Of course you can always go back to games like Jade Empire or Sleeping Dogs if you want loads of unarmed combat. I hope next AC installment also offers more variety in this department.
My biggest concern for the series is that Ubisoft is likely making a killing on sales in their Store. This will likely lock us into the current, ridiculous gear-driven mechanics. AC, more than most games, should have primarily character-driven mechanics. I hate the bloated inventories and fantasy-style clothing of +X Armor/+Z damage. I dive in because that’s what we have; but I don’t like it. To give an idea of what I do like, early AC games and ME2 were great.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 20, 2019 0:17:04 GMT
I wonder will happen in Part 3 of RapeusDarius' DLC. There better be a good reason, and no anything involving bloodline is not.
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Post by Element Zero on Jan 20, 2019 0:22:48 GMT
Hanako Ikezawa, that post is probably a step to far. Friend to friend, you should edit it. :Gross: (Kassandra Voice)
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 20, 2019 0:35:33 GMT
Hanako Ikezawa , that post is probably a step to far. Friend to friend, you should edit it. :Gross: (Kassandra Voice) I don't see how it is. That's literally the only way my and many people's characters can remain in character. But fine, I edited it. Now, ignoring the insult towards the fictional character, I would like to actually hear guesses about what will happen in the DLC.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 20, 2019 1:45:49 GMT
So take two on this post. Seems I write too danged much for my phone to handle.
So the hunt for the bounty giver took me to a fort on the other end of Ellis. I was also surprised to see that the leader of the reigion was there, doubly so when it proved that HE was the bounty giver in question. Since I didn't want to deal with another fort in Ellis I just two shotted the guy and moved on. Bounty cleared...but that state of affairs didn't last long.
So back to the Olympics and I beat the champion in the Pankration for Sparta.
Then I wanted to clear out the side quests in the area so the first one I did was interesting. Two guys were arguing with each other claiming that they stole...from each other. I thought this was going to be a fairly simple and straightforward quest. But then the twist: Their kids stole from the dads in order to run off together. The dads were quite furious and I decided to kill them instead of the kids on their behest. The good news is that it was on top of an ancient Stele for some reason and well eventually I found another one so I just need like two more to complete my build.
Anyways next quest involved a woman who was being acused, essentially, of adultery and impiety for going against the gods by observing the Olympics as a married woman. Turns out her husband was dead but I know for some cultures they don't care about that, women can't remarry. So looking into it and obviously I decided she was innocent but curiously there was evidence she was with someone else. (Have I mentioned I love the morality issues in this game?)
So after that off to Boetia for the Spartans and who should I run into but Stentor, and man was he 'happy' to see me. I do have to wonder what would happen if you killed him back in Megaris.
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Post by Element Zero on Jan 20, 2019 2:01:06 GMT
Hanako Ikezawa , that post is probably a step to far. Friend to friend, you should edit it. :Gross: (Kassandra Voice) I don't see how it is. That's literally the only way my and many people's characters can remain in character. But fine, I edited it. Now, ignoring the insult towards the fictional character, I would like to actually hear guesses about what will happen in the DLC. That’s not really an edit, is it? Your choice. I imagine that the Order will descend upon Alexios’ home in force, Darius will die valiantly, and Alexios will murderize another half-dozen of the Order. That’s my guess.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jan 20, 2019 2:10:44 GMT
I wonder will happen in Part 3 of RapeusDarius' DLC. There better be a good reason, and no anything involving bloodline is not. Why should we even have this conversation? You're clearly not going to play it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 20, 2019 2:27:45 GMT
I don't see how it is. That's literally the only way my and many people's characters can remain in character. But fine, I edited it. Now, ignoring the insult towards the fictional character, I would like to actually hear guesses about what will happen in the DLC. That’s not really an edit, is it? Your choice. I imagine that the Order will descend upon Alexios’ home in force, Darius will die valiantly, and Alexios will murderize another half-dozen of the Order. That’s my guess. I’ll finish the edit when they do. Hmm, while I could see Darius dying I imagine it more at the end of the DLC, most likely him and the guy hunting him killing each other. I wonder will happen in Part 3 of RapeusDarius' DLC. There better be a good reason, and no anything involving bloodline is not. Why should we even have this conversation? You're clearly not going to play it. If they fix the previous one I might.
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Post by Element Zero on Jan 20, 2019 2:32:30 GMT
That’s not really an edit, is it? Your choice. I imagine that the Order will descend upon Alexios’ home in force, Darius will die valiantly, and Alexios will murderize another half-dozen of the Order. That’s my guess. I’ll finish the edit when they do. Hmm, while I could see Darius dying I imagine it more at the end of the DLC, most likely him and the guy hunting him killing each other. Why should we even have this conversation? You're clearly not going to play it. If they fix the previous one I might. That’s a possibility. I could see him dying early and the family swearing revenge. Either/or seems likely.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jan 20, 2019 2:34:33 GMT
I’ll finish the edit when they do. Hmm, while I could see Darius dying I imagine it more at the end of the DLC, most likely him and the guy hunting him killing each other. If they fix the previous one I might. That’s a possibility. I could see him dying early and the family swearing revenge. Either/or seems likely. That's not gonna happen. They need the bloodline to continue.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 20, 2019 2:36:13 GMT
That’s a possibility. I could see him dying early and the family swearing revenge. Either/or seems likely. That's not gonna happen. They need the bloodline to continue. Darius already has a kid and now a grandkid so it will even with him dead.
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Post by Element Zero on Jan 20, 2019 2:43:14 GMT
That’s a possibility. I could see him dying early and the family swearing revenge. Either/or seems likely. That's not gonna happen. They need the bloodline to continue. Which bloodline and why? There’s no reason to suspect either bloodline will appear in future games, and Darius has no blood connection to any previous protagonists. There’s no reason either has to continue. Regardless, the child from Episode 2 means that both bloodlines are already secured, unless they want to start killing babies in these games. I’d be shocked if Darius survives Episode 3.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 20, 2019 11:44:30 GMT
The baby choice is inevitable but you can at least decide if it's love or just sort of a "duty" to have a family. This would be my take on it and it would appear that the care to allow choice of a suitable emotional (or non-emotional) response to a plot-driven necessity has not been taken. This will not personally trouble my resolutely 'bi' Kassandra but I feel great empathy for players whose lengthy journey with this game feels so discordantly progressed. From what I've seen in the press, the penny is certainly dropping over at Ubisoft... I'm struggling to see the 'lies' interpretation, they appear to have not thought through the implications and basically mucked it up. I'll buy stupid over malicious 9/10. They may be able to roll back some of the tone in part 3. Either way, let's do this...
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Post by OdanUrr on Jan 20, 2019 13:41:05 GMT
I'll buy stupid over malicious 9/10. Ah, yes, Hanlon's razor, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." I should probably thank whoever came up with the idea 'cause now I don't need to buy the season pass. Having said that, it was a poor choice to tell this story in Odyssey, a game that was marketed emphasizing "player choice." No one would've batted an eye if such an event had taken place in the older AC games, or even in Origins for that matter. It also comes across as a rather trite story to tell. Odds are the bad guys will swoop down on Darius and family, kill maybe him and/or Neema/Natakas, kidnap your kid to give you a reason to pursue them, same old, same old. Is anyone even invested in these characters with a runtime of maybe 4 hours? I'm personally far more interested in the "Fate of Atlantis" DLC.
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Post by DragonRacer on Jan 20, 2019 15:06:17 GMT
A complaint: Kassandra is supposed to be this awesome misthios, which would imply being able to delicately place a blade where it is needed to end certain life and not others. Why, oh why then, is it SO hard to actively target a specific thing only to end up accidentally hitting something else in the follow-up? I saw a man and woman in a camp being attacked by a wild boar. I targeted the boar - with the targeting reticule and everything to focus only on the boar - but because Kassandra does, like, 80 swings with one button press sometimes, the boar died and a finishing swing accidentally hit the lady I was trying to save from the boar. It killed her because the boar had taken her down to within an inch of her life. Which then, of course, caused the man to attack me and I was forced to kill him. I went from a Big Goddamn Hero trying to save these people from the boar to a murdering asshole because of a forced errant swing by game mechanics. On a similar, but more humorous note, I ran into a radiant quest that was supposed to involve escorting a midwife to some lady having a baby in the middle of the woods, but the midwife feared wolves. Midwife never left the camp and I killed all the wolves. Every. Last. One. Then the BIG wolf comes out, I kill him, too, and... much like above, the final swing that happened AFTER the wolf died ended up stabbing the quest-giver. Who lived, but turned hostile to me. So, I have the quest-completed-checkmark lady aggroing at me. Luckily, I'm by a bay so I swim out into the water until she's no longer pissed off at me. I then swim back towards her checkmark to turn in the quest, and suddenly she's terrified and takes off running. I half-expected an animal to kill her as I chased her through the woods. FINALLY, she gets stuck on terrain, I get a Talk prompt, and suddenly everything's fine and normal... collect my pay and move along. Fucking weird-ass trippy game.
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Post by Rouccoco on Jan 20, 2019 16:32:42 GMT
She commented on how unique and powerful Michael’s portrayal of Alexios is, citing an example of his actually crying in studio when the script called for it. It really shows, when you compare "And the Streets Run Red." That choked "aniazo" really made the scene. I might be biased, because I play as Alexios, but Michael's performance seemed much stronger here. I'm not sure, where people are getting the idea that his interpretation lacked emotion in comparison to Melissanthi's.
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Post by Rouccoco on Jan 20, 2019 16:59:42 GMT
I'm struggling to see the 'lies' interpretation, they appear to have not thought through the implications and basically mucked it up. I'll buy stupid over malicious 9/10. I'll be honest here - how does that matter? The end result is the same, they promised one thing, and because of something (judging by the tweets from the writers - a total lack of input from the original team and no dialogue with the new one that did the DLC), that statement is now a lie. Whether they were twirling their moustaches or did a "whoopsie" doesn't change that LGBT players who bought the game feel cheated. I don't really care about AC3 and half of the DLCs are now lost to me, so I threw some money in the trash basically. But I love the base game, so I'll pretend that this DLC doesn't exist, even though uplay won't let me delete it, and get on with the game Finally reached Naxos. I'll be going to Pephka after that. I'm second in the rankings, randomly killed the champion, and reloaded after realising what he was, and that progressing it the usual way would be better.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 20, 2019 17:05:28 GMT
doesn't change that LGBT players who bought the game feel cheated. Sure, I don't dispute the upset and the error.
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Post by Rouccoco on Jan 20, 2019 18:05:32 GMT
Sure, I don't dispute the upset and the error. I was disputing the semantics of "lies," not suggesting you feel otherwise. The fact that there was no malice or premeditation does not change that the statements they gave, officially and as a part of the media promotion, are now untrue. They are lies. Talk is cheap, as they say, so until they do something (like fix this or actually remember to keep their promises next time around), blaming this on an oversight rather than malice doesn't fix this mess in any way, so making the distinction is a moot point.
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Post by Element Zero on Jan 20, 2019 18:10:00 GMT
DragonRacer, I was thinking, “Has she found the lock-on button yet?” I was maybe a second away from formulating a helpful reply. Then I saw the word “boar”. Ugh. Anytime wildlife is involved, targeting gets very wonky. It’s dramatically improved from launch, but still. If I can’t lob an arrow into the animal in a case like this, I just stand back and watch. I’ve killed too many civilians, or at least turned them hostile, while trying to help. As you said, wonky ass game. Things like this are a traditional feature of the AC experience!
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Post by DragonRacer on Jan 20, 2019 18:26:31 GMT
DragonRacer , I was thinking, “Has she found the lock-on button yet?” I was maybe a second away from formulating a helpful reply. Then I saw the word “boar”. Ugh. Anytime wildlife is involved, targeting gets very wonky. It’s dramatically improved from launch, but still. If I can’t lob an arrow into the animal in a case like this, I just stand back and watch. I’ve killed too many civilians, or at least turned them hostile, while trying to help. As you said, wonky ass game. Things like this are a traditional feature of the AC experience! Yup, even with the lock-on button. It helps, certainly, but almost seems like every time I've got a one-two punch going, so to speak, the animal dies on punch one so the civilian gets it on punch two 100% unintentionally and then cue Benny Hill theme song or sad trombone.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 20, 2019 18:40:07 GMT
Sure, I don't dispute the upset and the error. I was disputing the semantics of "lies," not suggesting you feel otherwise. The fact that there was no malice or premeditation does not change that the statements they gave, officially and as a part of the media promotion, are now untrue. They are lies. Talk is cheap, as they say, so until they do something (like fix this or actually remember to keep their promises next time around), blaming this on an oversight rather than malice doesn't fix this mess in any way, so making the distinction is a moot point.Yeah. The apology falls under this as well. It's nice and all, but until they fix the DLC and/or prove they learned from it and will never do it again the apology is just empty words.
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Post by MarilynRobert on Jan 20, 2019 19:16:37 GMT
A complaint: Kassandra is supposed to be this awesome misthios, which would imply being able to delicately place a blade where it is needed to end certain life and not others. Why, oh why then, is it SO hard to actively target a specific thing only to end up accidentally hitting something else in the follow-up? I saw a man and woman in a camp being attacked by a wild boar. I targeted the boar - with the targeting reticule and everything to focus only on the boar - but because Kassandra does, like, 80 swings with one button press sometimes, the boar died and a finishing swing accidentally hit the lady I was trying to save from the boar. It killed her because the boar had taken her down to within an inch of her life. Which then, of course, caused the man to attack me and I was forced to kill him. I went from a Big Goddamn Hero trying to save these people from the boar to a murdering asshole because of a forced errant swing by game mechanics. On a similar, but more humorous note, I ran into a radiant quest that was supposed to involve escorting a midwife to some lady having a baby in the middle of the woods, but the midwife feared wolves. Midwife never left the camp and I killed all the wolves. Every. Last. One. Then the BIG wolf comes out, I kill him, too, and... much like above, the final swing that happened AFTER the wolf died ended up stabbing the quest-giver. Who lived, but turned hostile to me. So, I have the quest-completed-checkmark lady aggroing at me. Luckily, I'm by a bay so I swim out into the water until she's no longer pissed off at me. I then swim back towards her checkmark to turn in the quest, and suddenly she's terrified and takes off running. I half-expected an animal to kill her as I chased her through the woods. FINALLY, she gets stuck on terrain, I get a Talk prompt, and suddenly everything's fine and normal... collect my pay and move along.Fucking weird-ass trippy game. I had this happen and the quest giver was running through town so then I had all these soldiers with weapons and city dwellers with brooms, chasing me through town. Luckily the woman got stuck on terrain outside of town and I was able to talk to her for 1 second, quest done, and then got out of Dodge fast. Of course, really it's not worth the hassle but it's like there is this freaky, crazy-ness to the bugged parts of the game that I get obsessed with overcoming all odds...Alexios must not give up!
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