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Post by nitrous on Feb 5, 2019 7:39:58 GMT
as i said in the video: my ADAS-T-SOL is designed to be a cancer-spamm. (if, in the discord server, i names this build "spammator-deluxe" it's not for nothing) I thought that here on BSN we were the ones fighting cancer and not the ones spreading it... And, aside from all else, I think that this build might struggle with big armour on higher difficulties - I mean, it did take you some time to take down that Prime even on Bronze, despite it being a synthetic enemy with the lowest amount of armour of all bosses out there. What will you do with, say, a Possessed Praetorian, or three Possessed Scions? The same TSol armed with, say, a Hurricane would take them down in a matter of seconds, while with the Adas it might be quite problematic.
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Post by XCPTNL on Feb 5, 2019 8:57:59 GMT
About support: if everybody just deals a good amount of damage, there is no need for "support". This is not a MMORPG that requires tanks, healers and all that stuff because you are in hour-long boss battles or something
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 11:18:21 GMT
I thought that here on BSN we were the ones fighting cancer and not the ones spreading it... And, aside from all else, I think that this build might struggle with big armour on higher difficulties - I mean, it did take you some time to take down that Prime even on Bronze, despite it being a synthetic enemy with the lowest amount of armour of all bosses out there. What will you do with, say, a Possessed Praetorian, or three Possessed Scions? The same TSol armed with, say, a Hurricane would take them down in a matter of seconds, while with the Adas it might be quite problematic. On Platinum you should try Adas + Quarian Marksman + Incendiary Ammo IV. Buff the big guys with Tactical Scan, then Marksman. A Hurricane/Blood Pack Punisher with Ultralight materials is probably a better solution for the Turian Soldier though. Adas all the little guys, switch to your trusty SMG with High Velocity Barrel for those armors. Or you could just use the pugs to keep the big guys busy while searching all the other enemies on the map.
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Post by chonma on Feb 5, 2019 11:52:53 GMT
as i said in the video: my ADAS-T-SOL is designed to be a cancer-spamm. (if, in the discord server, i names this build "spammator-deluxe" it's not for nothing) I thought that here on BSN we were the ones fighting cancer and not the ones spreading it... And, aside from all else, I think that this build might struggle with big armour on higher difficulties - I mean, it did take you some time to take down that Prime even on Bronze, despite it being a synthetic enemy with the lowest amount of armour of all bosses out there. What will you do with, say, a Possessed Praetorian, or three Possessed Scions? The same TSol armed with, say, a Hurricane would take them down in a matter of seconds, while with the Adas it might be quite problematic. did you see the whole vidéo? i also got an hurricane as a backup weapon in case of: -bosses with stronk armor -an enginer behind an atlas (cuz need to penetrate through the atlat to kill the engineer, otherwise, infinite repair) -run short on ammunition for my adas here s the link: here(also, the link is present in the build channel of N7s s discord)
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Post by nitrous on Feb 5, 2019 12:47:36 GMT
About support: if everybody just deals a good amount of damage, there is no need for "support". This is not a MMORPG that requires tanks, healers and all that stuff because you are in hour-long boss battles or something I'll tell you even more: as someone who spent whole 4 years playing Lineage II, I can confirm that a good DD (damage dealer) is always better than a tin can (a tank), because the latter tends to do little to no damage and is often rendered useless because quite a few bosses don't really care about their aggro skill. The problem is, though, that finding a good DD is always a problem, let alone a whole group of them, and that's why you'd usually end up going into an instance zone with two heals, one or two buffers, one tank and 3 DDs - and spend the rest of your miserable life there because the boss will more likely die of age or of laughter than of the damage dealt. On Platinum you should try Adas + Quarian Marksman + Incendiary Ammo IV. Buff the big guys with Tactical Scan, then Marksman. A Hurricane/Blood Pack Punisher with Ultralight materials is probably a better solution for the Turian Soldier though. Adas all the little guys, switch to your trusty SMG with High Velocity Barrel for those armors. Or you could just use the pugs to keep the big guys busy while searching all the other enemies on the map. Have never tried Quarksman on Plat - I just never liked the character, because I always considered him to be more like a watered-down version of the TSol, but I'll give this kit/weapon combo a try - and I like that it's a lore-friendly one. I hate the BPP though. Just saying. And as for using pugs... Well, some of them are so bad they can't even be good decoys (especially decoys for bosses - when was the last time you ventured into the Puglands?), so when I pug, I usually rely on myself only, and that means I often have to prioritise efficiency over style. With the TSol, I'll most likely be taking a different gun - a Saber, a Crusader (these two being the most likely choices), a Wraith, a Piranha, a Claymore, even a Raider if I feel like getting a bit too close and personal. Just not the Adas. I don't want to spend my whole life there. did you see the whole vidéo? i also got an hurricane as a backup weapon I did, and that's the point. Did you use it? Having a backup weapon can be quite tricky, because when you actually run out of ammo, you'll have to switch your guns, and that will take you some time. With TSol and his inability to dodge, you have to really be careful about the moment when you do it - sometimes he cannot afford it, so you'll rather have to pop a Thermal Clip rather than fumble with the backup. And you're not taking the Proxy mine, which means you're losing 20% of damage, and that can be crucial on higher difficulties.
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Post by bestvolussupportaus2 on Feb 5, 2019 13:05:05 GMT
I think a better way to put it, is that there's no need for a "Pure support" and I mean when people do something like 200% cooldown on a volus with a predator pistol and shield boost spams everyone instead of contributing damage with a better weapon whilst giving that shield boost support at the same time. Otherwise you're just a +1 to a team that's 3 manning the whole match in terms of damage output, and that volus is a punching bag for a faction to rip to shreds.
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Post by chonma on Feb 5, 2019 13:06:41 GMT
did you see the whole vidéo? i also got an hurricane as a backup weapon I did, and that's the point. Did you use it? Having a backup weapon can be quite tricky, because when you actually run out of ammo, you'll have to switch your guns, and that will take you some time. With TSol and his inability to dodge, you have to really be careful about the moment when you do it - sometimes he cannot afford it, so you'll rather have to pop a Thermal Clip rather than fumble with the backup. And you're not taking the Proxy mine, which means you're losing 20% of damage, and that can be crucial on higher difficulties. i did not use it cuz it was bronze, no ennemy with real armor, and wave too little to run out of ammunition. on gold/plat, i would have switched to the hurricane for the primes (and send them an entire clip in the head with the marksman ability) switching weapon take about 1 to 2 seconds, so, of course, if you are in the middle of ennemy's line of fire, it's bad, but under-cover, not a problem. and i ve set the concussive instead of the mine cuz i prefer the concussive (i can make ennemies quit their cover with an concussive, + it make primed targets explode). also, using mines at long range can be difficult, so, don't fit well with the long-range spamm. also, with weapons using thermal clip, having an backup is usefull in plat, since crates don't give you full ammunition. (and don't worry, i already played this build à lot of time with other people in plat, and i did my support-job properly. i don't send builds that i haven't tryed ) i really recommand you to try this build, you ll see, it's easy: the auto-aim + the stun will take care of all little targets (including bombers, drones and phantoms) and not having to aim (and not even right-click) will enhance your vision angle, so, more aware of what's happening around you (so, you ll be less likely to be taken by surprise by a hords of monsters) and the hurricane is just here as anti boss when their shields are gone (cuz adas is more effective against shields and bareer than hurricane)
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Post by DistigousForest on Feb 5, 2019 16:26:00 GMT
Give me damage over support 6 days a week and twice on Sundays. This game is all about DPS. More DPS; faster games. That said, it's fun to mess around with "inefficient" kits for variety and some added challenge. And you're not taking the Proxy mine, which means you're losing 20% of damage, and that can be crucial on higher difficulties. The issue I have with proxy mine is, while it's a good debuff, it takes away from time you could be in MM and not being in MM sucks especially as a TSol. CS works well enough; bubbles Phantoms and Banshees when I need it too, bonus Barrier damage, and has a super short cooldown. I never spec into PM and I don't really miss it, to each their own though. prefer the concussive (i can make ennemies quit their cover with an concussive, + it make primed targets explode) Proxy Mine can do both of these things as well.
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Post by chonma on Feb 6, 2019 0:57:25 GMT
Proxy Mine can do both of these things as well. but proxy would require me to aim properly i think (since the proxy don't change trajectory to hit the target), while concussive will search the ennemy by himself (so, i don't waste time aiming properly to send the projectile at the good place to make the ennemy quit his cover)
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Post by SalMasRac on Feb 7, 2019 2:24:47 GMT
also, using mines at long range can be difficult, so, don't fit well with the long-range spamm. Aim for the feet
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Post by chonma on Feb 7, 2019 17:50:16 GMT
also, using mines at long range can be difficult, so, don't fit well with the long-range spamm. Aim for the feet but if the target is under-cover, i guess i ll have to find a surface near the target that will transmit the blast?
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Post by muahmuah on Feb 7, 2019 17:58:32 GMT
but if the target is under-cover, i guess i ll have to find a surface near the target that will transmit the blast? Don't worry,the mine works through the wall,so you can place it everywhere close to the target.
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Post by chonma on Feb 7, 2019 18:19:17 GMT
but if the target is under-cover, i guess i ll have to find a surface near the target that will transmit the blast? Don't worry,the mines works through the wall,so you can place it everywhere close to the target. mexican mines? wow, then...well, i ll maybye give them a try again with another character who use the same, to see if i can use them to do what i want
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Post by muahmuah on Feb 7, 2019 18:29:20 GMT
Don't worry,the mines works through the wall,so you can place it everywhere close to the target. mexican mines? wow, then...well, i ll maybye give them a try again with another character who use the same, to see if i can use them to do what i want GI and TSol have proxi,so GI is your only other choice
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Post by chonma on Feb 7, 2019 18:55:45 GMT
mexican mines? wow, then...well, i ll maybye give them a try again with another character who use the same, to see if i can use them to do what i want GI and TSol have proxi,so GI is your only other choice doesn't the volus got proxy?
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Post by muahmuah on Feb 7, 2019 18:57:10 GMT
GI and TSol have proxi,so GI is your only other choice doesn't the volus got proxy? Ah i forgot for this ball.I don't play voluses.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 19:18:08 GMT
doesn't the volus got proxy? Salarian Infiltrator has Proxy Mine as well.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Feb 9, 2019 21:25:28 GMT
doesn't the volus got proxy? Ah i forgot for this ball.I don't play voluses. Kssssshk. Go plow yourself, Earth-Clan
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Post by muahmuah on Feb 9, 2019 22:50:43 GMT
Ah i forgot for this ball.I don't play voluses. Kssssshk. Go plow yourself, Earth-Clan 1v1 me Thunderdome.Fite me IRL.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Feb 9, 2019 22:58:02 GMT
Kssssshk. Go plow yourself, Earth-Clan 1v1 me Thunderdome.Fite me IRL.
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