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Post by cloud9 on Nov 4, 2018 8:55:49 GMT
He can't even charm his way out to a gigantic demon in Inquisition. So.... Hey, we don’t know how that went yet. Because he's dead.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 4, 2018 9:02:58 GMT
Hey, we don’t know how that went yet. Because he's dead. Source?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 5:59:24 GMT
I agree, I think whoever stayed behind to kill that spider demon thing can still be alive. You never actually saw them die, just get left behind.
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 6, 2018 12:52:47 GMT
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 6, 2018 12:55:25 GMT
if you wanted fair/objective judgments, you would post this in other games subforum, instead of here. you are asking in the wrong place. Why?
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Post by Chenowl Blanc on Nov 6, 2018 14:45:45 GMT
I really love my Inquisitor's character way more than the empty shell that is the Dragonborn - but in terms of battle, there can be no doubt that the Dragonborn would seriously kick the Inquisitor's ass.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 6, 2018 15:01:53 GMT
Yes. One of the big rules of fiction is unless you see the body, chances are the person is still alive.
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 8, 2018 19:51:31 GMT
Yes. One of the big rules of fiction is unless you see the body, chances are the person is still alive. Ok, lets say that he/she survived. How's he/she going to survive in the Fade and there's no way out?
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Post by Walter Black on Nov 9, 2018 21:56:34 GMT
I'm a little confused of what the actual point of this poll is. Of course the Dragonborn is more physically powerful than the Inquisitor, since Bethesda is more about player empowerment, versus Bioware's preference for story and characterization. Obviously the hero of an over the top heroic fantasy would be stronger than the protagonist of of more realistic one. It's unfair to judge the franchises on those terms, since they have completely different aims. Why does the Inquisitor being weaker than the Dragonborn matter anymore than Superman or Goku beating both of them? Is it to gloat how much better Bethesda caters to player entitlement and adolescent power fantasies*? Is it to blast Bioware for focusing on lore and character development, where the player is one cool hero among many, instead of making them an invincible god to stroke their virtual egos?
*For the record, I equally enjoy both Bethesda and Bioware games for the unique gaming experiences they provide, rather than wishing they all followed the same homogeneous formula.
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 10, 2018 6:29:51 GMT
I'm a little confused of what the actual point of this poll is. Of course the Dragonborn is more physically powerful than the Inquisitor, since Bethesda is more about player empowerment, versus Bioware's preference for story and characterization. Obviously the hero of an over the top heroic fantasy would be stronger than the protagonist of of more realistic one. It's unfair to judge the franchises on those terms, since they have completely different aims. Why does the Inquisitor being weaker than the Dragonborn matter anymore than Superman or Goku beating both of them? Is it to gloat how much better Bethesda caters to player entitlement and adolescent power fantasies*? Is it to blast Bioware for focusing on lore and character development, where the player is one cool hero among many, instead of making them an invincible god to stroke their virtual egos?
*For the record, I equally enjoy both Bethesda and Bioware games for the unique gaming experiences they provide, rather than wishing they all followed the same homogeneous formula.
I merely asked an honest question of which character could win on a one to one battle. IDK where you get this BioWare vs Bethesda idea from. You should relax and: 
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Post by melbella on Nov 10, 2018 21:48:15 GMT
No one has mentioned the Inquisitor can open a Fade rift and send the Dragonborn to keep Corypheus company?
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 11, 2018 0:06:54 GMT
No one has mentioned the Inquisitor can open a Fade rift and send the Dragonborn to keep Corypheus company? And the Dragonborn will crawl out the Fade and ready for round 2. Come on, the Dragonborn has traveled to other realms before and will likely find his/her way out. Besides, the Dragonborn will use the Ice Form shout to paralyze the Inquisitor, and close in to critical strike before the Inquisitor even uses the mark.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 12, 2018 2:34:32 GMT
It's this. Cloud has nothing but negative things to say about every single game Bioware has ever made. They are a troll.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 12, 2018 18:10:59 GMT
No one has mentioned the Inquisitor can open a Fade rift and send the Dragonborn to keep Corypheus company? And the Dragonborn will crawl out the Fade and ready for round 2. Come on, the Dragonborn has traveled to other realms before and will likely find his/her way out. Besides, the Dragonborn will use the Ice Form shout to paralyze the Inquisitor, and close in to critical strike before the Inquisitor even uses the mark. ...and does it backwards and in high heels!
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Post by mousestalker on Nov 12, 2018 19:38:25 GMT
It depends upon where the big battle is staged. If it's Thedas the Dragonborn's mad skillz likely wouldn't work. Similarly the Inquisitor would be toast in Skyrim due to lackapowah. If it was staged ina neutral setting such as the Marvel Universe, the Inquisitor would kill with her sweet dance moves. Here on earth they would both get busted for assault and battery and neither could afford either bvail or defense lawyers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 6:41:59 GMT
dg bc of sheer skill. 
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 13, 2018 8:14:08 GMT
It depends upon where the big battle is staged. If it's Thedas the Dragonborn's mad skillz likely wouldn't work. Similarly the Inquisitor would be toast in Skyrim due to lackapowah. If it was staged ina neutral setting such as the Marvel Universe, the Inquisitor would kill with her sweet dance moves. Here on earth they would both get busted for assault and battery and neither could afford either bvail or defense lawyers. But how would you know whether the Dragonborn's powers will fail on Thedas and the Dragonborn is also known for traveling to different planes of existence, and his/her powers are still effective? Now, I could understand that the Dragonborn cannot command or absorb the life force of Dragons in Thedas, because they are different from the dragons from Tamriel. But how the Dragonborn's powers cannot affect the Inquisitor, and traveling to different planes did not affect the Dragonborn's abilities?
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 13, 2018 10:51:54 GMT
I don't personally think it's a viable comparison. Regardless of how they're constructed, both characters are meant to be roleplayed to an extent and how powerful they are depends on us as much as it does on the narrative (and the problems in the narrative aren't always solved by brute strength or power of badassery  ). Inquisitor can be solo-played as well or have a useless squad, so I can imagine having Inky that literally carries the team on their horns all game without as much as breaking a sweat, as well as roleplay a Dragonborn that gets ridiculously lucky throughout the whole tiff with Alduin. Or vice versa. I have to say though that I find the argument that Dragonborns are more powerful simply because they do stuff on their own as... a bit preposterous, really. Nevermind Powers Of Destiny (TM) and being the Chosen One (TM) or Power Of Convenience (TM) - there are so many powerful artifacts and forces that one can get/steal/be granted and deals with Daedric princes one can make, I think it's hard to argue that they're carried just by their power alone... well, unless somebody roleplays like that, which - again - kind of the point.
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 13, 2018 13:13:24 GMT
It depends on the arsenal that can affect GR. Such as a Azura's Star can seal the essence of GR by using either the Soul Tear shout, or a powerful weapon that could soul trap him. Other than that, I'm not entirely sure.
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Post by Blaze on Nov 13, 2018 13:14:18 GMT
a lot of people talk about the dragonborn being stronger, but come on, mark of the rift? the dragonborn doesn't actually have a defense against it.
also try playing skyrim in the hardest difficulty and than tell me how "invincible" the dragonborn is xD see it's kinda funny to me, that the dragonborn is supposed to be one of the most powerful beings of their time (or rather, one of the most powerful mortals at least) yet horses and random companions have stronger durability.
anyway, at the end, gotta agree with midnight tea, it depends on how you RP them. most characters i play, are pretty average in my head, so the contribution the game gives them about being the great legendary figures that they are, not always apply to the chars i'm playing.
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 13, 2018 13:20:18 GMT
I don't personally think it's a viable comparison. Regardless of how they're constructed, both characters are meant to be roleplayed to an extent and how powerful they are depends on us as much as it does on the narrative (and the problems in the narrative aren't always solved by brute strength or power of badassery  ). Inquisitor can be solo-played as well or have a useless squad, so I can imagine having an Inky that literally carries the team on their horns all game without as much as breaking a sweat, as well as roleplay a Dragonborn that gets ridiculously lucky throughout the whole tiff with Alduin. Or vice versa. I have to say though that I find the argument that Dragonborns are more powerful simply because they do stuff on their own as... a bit preposterous, really. Nevermind Powers Of Destiny (TM) and being the Chosen One (TM) or Power Of Convenience (TM) - there are so many powerful artifacts and forces that one can get/steal/be granted and deals with Daedric princes one can make, I think it's hard to argue that they're carried just by their power alone... well, unless somebody roleplays like that, which - again - kind of the point. Technically, the Dragonborn can become stronger whether with or without the assistance of the Princes. All it takes is to upgrade and select perks on certain skills to strengthen the protagonist. And the Inquisitor is meant for party based gameplay and not as effective on solo gameplay. (in my experience, anyway)
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 13, 2018 13:27:06 GMT
a lot of people talk about the dragonborn being stronger, but come on, mark of the rift? the dragonborn doesn't actually have a defense against it.also try playing skyrim in the hardest difficulty and than tell me how "invincible" the dragonborn is xD see it's kinda funny to me, that the dragonborn is supposed to be one of the most powerful beings of their time (or rather, one of the most powerful mortals at least) yet horses and random companions have stronger durability. anyway, at the end, gotta agree with midnight tea, it depends on how you RP them. most characters i play, are pretty average in my head, so the contribution the game gives them about being the great legendary figures that they are, not always apply to the chars i'm playing. In fact, the Dragonborn can become ethereal to counter it. Which makes him/her invulnerable to all magical and physical attacks for a period of time, so the Mark cannot affect the Dragonborn. And you are right that players can RP the protagonist, but the Dragonborn is a classless character and it allows players to build any type of archetype they want. Whether it's stealth-based character, a warrior, a mage, or a combination of three classes. Which gives the Dragonborn an edge on role-playing, because it's not limited to one class and specialization like the Inquisitor.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Nov 13, 2018 13:40:01 GMT
It depends on the arsenal that can affect GR. Such as a Azura's Star can seal the essence of GR by using either the Soul Tear shout, or a powerful weapon that could soul trap him. Other than that, I'm not entirely sure. What about the Inquisitor?
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 13, 2018 13:43:06 GMT
It depends on the arsenal that can affect GR. Such as a Azura's Star can seal the essence of GR by using either the Soul Tear shout, or a powerful weapon that could soul trap him. Other than that, I'm not entirely sure. What about the Inquisitor? Don't really know how the Inquisitor can fight GR to be honest.
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