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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 3:16:35 GMT
So any youtube vid from Nasa or others you instantly dismiss, but any youtube video from a flat earther you instantly believe? Bias there my friend. I thought you said you only trusted your own eyes? What you can obviously and observable see? Coz I guarantee the Nasa tech is much more powerful and can show much better the curvature, yet you outright dismiss it. So I ask this, why instantly dismiss one source, but jump straight into the arms of another source? Why is FE youtube more credible than Nasa youtube? No, I check out baller camp videos too. NASA footage is not only not observable/repeatable by rest of public, but it's a appeal to authority logical fallacy. That and even non-flat Earthers don't trust the NASA footage, that's how filled with production mistakes they are. Okay, non Nasa aside, there have been many videos in this thread you've ignored. A very interesting one using perception, your fave thing, and a basketball. You never responded to that. There were several videos of a sunset showing a horizon, you never responded to them. So why do you dismiss them, which are also repeatable, but trust your FE videos? How many of the FE video stuff have you repeated yourself? And can you show evidence of you repeating them? Or do you just have youtube videos of other people?
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 19, 2019 3:23:20 GMT
No, I check out baller camp videos too. NASA footage is not only not observable/repeatable by rest of public, but it's a appeal to authority logical fallacy. That and even non-flat Earthers don't trust the NASA footage, that's how filled with production mistakes they are. Okay, non Nasa aside, there have been many videos in this thread you've ignored. A very interesting one using perception, your fave thing, and a basketball. You never responded to that. There were several videos of a sunset showing a horizon, you never responded to them. So why do you dismiss them, which are also repeatable, but trust your FE videos? How many of the FE video stuff have you repeated yourself? And can you show evidence of you repeating them? Or do you just have youtube videos of other people? Because they don't feed his prehistoric fantasy.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 3:26:42 GMT
No, I check out baller camp videos too. NASA footage is not only not observable/repeatable by rest of public, but it's a appeal to authority logical fallacy. That and even non-flat Earthers don't trust the NASA footage, that's how filled with production mistakes they are. Okay, non Nasa aside, there have been many videos in this thread you've ignored. A very interesting one using perception, your fave thing, and a basketball. You never responded to that. There were several videos of a sunset showing a horizon, you never responded to them. So why do you dismiss them, which are also repeatable, but trust your FE videos? How many of the FE video stuff have you repeated yourself? And can you show evidence of you repeating them? Or do you just have youtube videos of other people? The scatter gun approach got used pretty often, very easy to lose motivation answering questions with that tactic. Other times just don't see any need to pursue something further. Really only interested in providing some extra context to further clarify some things here and there. And not really here to convince anyone, more like trying to help out with basic FE 101 questions. Which is not really my interest anymore since I'm well past this, more about the community and sharing the odd thing I might have watched FE related wise. So my interests are a bit at odds with sharing what I watch and sharing what I should be sharing, more FE 101 stuff newbies are more interested in like I was at the start. But have patience and if something really bothers you, ask again with my name tagged and I'll see if I can provide an answer.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 3:33:46 GMT
No, I check out baller camp videos too. NASA footage is not only not observable/repeatable by rest of public, but it's a appeal to authority logical fallacy. That and even non-flat Earthers don't trust the NASA footage, that's how filled with production mistakes they are. Okay, non Nasa aside, there have been many videos in this thread you've ignored. A very interesting one using perception, your fave thing, and a basketball. You never responded to that. There were several videos of a sunset showing a horizon, you never responded to them. So why do you dismiss them, which are also repeatable, but trust your FE videos? How many of the FE video stuff have you repeated yourself? And can you show evidence of you repeating them? Or do you just have youtube videos of other people? And it's not just visual evidence (though all I have to say for this is nobody ever see's curvature. Not from an airplane ride or 4x higher from high altitude balloon. Neil deGrasse Tyson is even quoted saying you can't see any curvature from 128,000 feet), but common sense like water is always level and that a positive pressurized gas atmosphere system next to a negative pressure vacuum of space defies the second law of thermodynamics.
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 3:34:23 GMT
Okay, non Nasa aside, there have been many videos in this thread you've ignored. A very interesting one using perception, your fave thing, and a basketball. You never responded to that. There were several videos of a sunset showing a horizon, you never responded to them. So why do you dismiss them, which are also repeatable, but trust your FE videos? How many of the FE video stuff have you repeated yourself? And can you show evidence of you repeating them? Or do you just have youtube videos of other people? The scatter gun approach got used pretty often, very easy to lose motivation answering questions with that tactic. Other times just don't see any need to pursue something further. Really only interested in providing some extra context to further clarify some things here and there. And not really here to convince anyone, more like trying to help out with basic FE 101 questions. Which is not really my interest anymore since I'm well past this, more about the community and sharing the odd thing I might have watched FE related wise. So my interests are a bit at odds with sharing what I watch and sharing what I should be sharing, more FE 101 stuff newbies are more interested in like I was at the start. But have patience and if something really bothers you, ask again with my name tagged and I'll see if I can provide an answer. Ahhh, so you have no answers. Which is a fine area to be in. but don't push your ignorance aside with bravado and then say you now only want to share your FE findings. it's okay not to know. We're just having a chit chat tho, so no pressure. As I've said throughout, feel free to share what you will. Whether it's what you consider answers to questions, or what you consider truths or non truths. Shame really, I found yours, on occasion, a rather interest mind to pick. But you do you TF, and enjoy what you do, because without joy, what does life offer?
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 3:35:30 GMT
Okay, non Nasa aside, there have been many videos in this thread you've ignored. A very interesting one using perception, your fave thing, and a basketball. You never responded to that. There were several videos of a sunset showing a horizon, you never responded to them. So why do you dismiss them, which are also repeatable, but trust your FE videos? How many of the FE video stuff have you repeated yourself? And can you show evidence of you repeating them? Or do you just have youtube videos of other people? And it's not just visual evidence (though all I have to say for this is nobody ever see's curvature. Not from an airplane ride or 4x higher from high altitude balloon. Neil deGrasse Tyson is even quoted saying you can't see any curvature from 128,000 feet), but common sense like water is always level and that a positive pressurized gas atmosphere system next to a negative pressure vacuum of space defies the second law of thermodynamics. The basketball video showed that. You know a basketball is round, you can see it is, but with extreme magnification, its curve looked flat too. Did you really look at that one? It was very interesting.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 3:39:41 GMT
And it's not just visual evidence (though all I have to say for this is nobody ever see's curvature. Not from an airplane ride or 4x higher from high altitude balloon. Neil deGrasse Tyson is even quoted saying you can't see any curvature from 128,000 feet), but common sense like water is always level and that a positive pressurized gas atmosphere system next to a negative pressure vacuum of space defies the second law of thermodynamics. The basketball video showed that. You know a basketball is round, you can see it is, but with extreme magnification, its curve looked flat too. Did you really look at that one? It was very interesting. i.imgur.com/wLw2HJc.pngi.imgur.com/cmKoHzJ.jpg
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 3:42:50 GMT
The basketball video showed that. You know a basketball is round, you can see it is, but with extreme magnification, its curve looked flat too. Did you really look at that one? It was very interesting. i.imgur.com/wLw2HJc.pngi.imgur.com/cmKoHzJ.jpg And why do you believe that random math and not other math that has been presented in this thread? Not to mentions this: So which is it? Maths is correct or maths is assumptions?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 3:54:07 GMT
And why do you believe that random math and not other math that has been presented in this thread? That is the official math for the ball Earth. And there's even several curve calculator, including one from Mick West; www.metabunk.org/curve/The math does not match repeatable observations by everyday people. ie. In this timestamped video bellow from a clip excerpt of a flat Earth debate episode, a baller modeled these wind turbines over water on a ball that clearly show accumulative curvature drop. But when matched next to a photograph of these turbines, the accumulative drop from them as should be on a globe is missing. Instead replaced by a straight linear drop perfectly matching perspective on a flat plane.
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 3:57:33 GMT
And why do you believe that random math and not other math that has been presented in this thread? That is the official math for the ball Earth. And there's even several curve calculator, including one from Mick West; www.metabunk.org/curve/The math does not match repeatable observations by everyday people. ie. In this timestamped video bellow from a clip excerpt of a flat Earth debate episode, a baller modeled these wind turbines over water on a ball that clearly show accumulative curvature drop. But when matched next to a photograph of these turbines, the accumulative drop from them as should be on a globe is missing. Instead replaced by a straight linear drop perfectly matching perspective on a flat plane. So bs, all your FE vids are bs that have been debunked, but again, coz you obv answered before my edit. From yourself: So which is it? Maths is correct, or maths is just assumptions?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 3:58:37 GMT
And why do you believe that random math and not other math that has been presented in this thread? Not to mentions this: So which is it? Maths is correct or maths is assumptions? <iframe width="20.180000000000064" height="11.779999999999973" style="position: absolute; width: 20.18px; height: 11.78px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: 230px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_72644280" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="20.180000000000064" height="11.779999999999973" style="position: absolute; width: 20.18px; height: 11.78px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 948px; top: 230px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_13606466" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="20.180000000000064" height="11.779999999999973" style="position: absolute; width: 20.18px; height: 11.78px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: 757px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_19634612" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="20.180000000000064" height="11.779999999999973" style="position: absolute; width: 20.18px; height: 11.78px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 948px; top: 757px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_35119775" scrolling="no"></iframe> Well the math is all based on an assumption, you're right about that. The assumption that the Earth is curved, that's the point. As is, there is no evidence for the Earth's radius either. Which begs the question, if curvature is never visible, how could we ever arrive at the logical conclusion that the Earth is a ball?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 4:03:05 GMT
That is the official math for the ball Earth. And there's even several curve calculator, including one from Mick West; www.metabunk.org/curve/The math does not match repeatable observations by everyday people. ie. In this timestamped video bellow from a clip excerpt of a flat Earth debate episode, a baller modeled these wind turbines over water on a ball that clearly show accumulative curvature drop. But when matched next to a photograph of these turbines, the accumulative drop from them as should be on a globe is missing. Instead replaced by a straight linear drop perfectly matching perspective on a flat plane. So bs, all your FE vids are bs that have been debunked, but again, coz you obv answered before my edit. From yourself: So which is it? Maths is correct, or maths is just assumptions? Even if the Earth radius figure is wrong, if we're living on a ball, there should be visible 'accumulative' curvature drop. Even if the Earth is twice the size of what we're told.
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 4:06:03 GMT
Terminator Force . Linking you just bugs out the response with the weird vertical bug so I'm starting fresh. Thevid you posted had a straight line, and the idiot was shouting "it's a straight line!" despite it not being a straight line through the objects on screen. Pay close attention to the red pinky triangles and the yellow lines. Neither of them match alone the top point, or the middle triangular point, ergo they're falsified straight lights. If the line went through them correctly it would show a curve. So try again. Really look at the yellow lines tho, they don't match the points they're supposed to connect to
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 4:06:52 GMT
So bs, all your FE vids are bs that have been debunked, but again, coz you obv answered before my edit. From yourself: So which is it? Maths is correct, or maths is just assumptions? Even if the Earth radius figure is wrong, if we're living on a ball, there should be visible 'accumulative' curvature drop. Even if the Earth is twice the size of what we're told. There is, and it's visible and it has been shown, you've just ignored it.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 4:08:47 GMT
Terminator Force . Linking you just bugs out the response with the weird vertical bug so I'm starting fresh. Thevid you posted had a straight line, and the idiot was shouting "it's a straight line!" despite it not being a straight line through the objects on screen. Pay close attention to the red pinky triangles and the yellow lines. Neither of them match alone the top point, or the middle triangular point, ergo they're falsified straight lights. If the line went through them correctly it would show a curve. So try again. Really look at the yellow lines tho, they don't match the points they're supposed to connect to Yes, it's an annoying bug, tried to clean up quote, but couldn't manage this time. As for what you're seeing, I don't see it. To me the left clearly has accumulative drop, while the right clearly is a linear drop.
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 4:11:33 GMT
Terminator Force . Linking you just bugs out the response with the weird vertical bug so I'm starting fresh. Thevid you posted had a straight line, and the idiot was shouting "it's a straight line!" despite it not being a straight line through the objects on screen. Pay close attention to the red pinky triangles and the yellow lines. Neither of them match alone the top point, or the middle triangular point, ergo they're falsified straight lights. If the line went through them correctly it would show a curve. So try again. Really look at the yellow lines tho, they don't match the points they're supposed to connect to Yes, it's an annoying bug, tried to clean up quote, but couldn't manage this time. As for what you're seeing, I don't see it. To me the left clearly has accumulative drop, while the right clearly is a linear drop. The timestamped section, the left vid with the purple cones, the yellow lines do not line up with every point. They go through the cones arbitrarily to fake a straight line. Unless you're blind, the middle line is extremely obvious.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 4:16:52 GMT
Yes, it's an annoying bug, tried to clean up quote, but couldn't manage this time. As for what you're seeing, I don't see it. To me the left clearly has accumulative drop, while the right clearly is a linear drop. The timestamped section, the left vid with the purple cones, the yellow lines do not line up with every point. They go through the cones arbitrarily to fake a straight line. Unless you're blind, the middle line is extremely obvious. That is showing accumulative curvature drop, how it's supposed to look like in real life on the right image too. But on the right image we only see a linear drop, meaning it doesn't match a curved ball shape, but a linear drop matching perspective on a flat plane. So in short, there should be no straight linear drops on a ball Earth. Needs to be accumulative to match the curve.
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 4:22:22 GMT
The timestamped section, the left vid with the purple cones, the yellow lines do not line up with every point. They go through the cones arbitrarily to fake a straight line. Unless you're blind, the middle line is extremely obvious. That is showing accumulative curvature drop, how it's supposed to look like in real life on the right image too. But on the right image we only see a linear drop, meaning it doesn't match a curved ball shape, but a linear drop matching perspective on a flat plane. So in short, there should be no straight linear drops on a ball Earth. Needs to be accumulative to match the curve. Not sure what you mean but on the left image: I mean I've not seen the full video, but the line clearly dissects the fans straight through. With no context, I figured you were trying to show it proves flat earth with having them align. But there is clearly no alignment. So I may not be fully aware of what you were trying to prove here
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 4:28:38 GMT
That is showing accumulative curvature drop, how it's supposed to look like in real life on the right image too. But on the right image we only see a linear drop, meaning it doesn't match a curved ball shape, but a linear drop matching perspective on a flat plane. So in short, there should be no straight linear drops on a ball Earth. Needs to be accumulative to match the curve. Not sure what you mean but on the left image: I mean I've not seen the full video, but the line clearly dissects the fans straight through. With no context, I figured you were trying to show it proves flat earth with having them align. But there is clearly no alignment. So I may not be fully aware of what you were trying to prove here Yes, the orange pylons bend in an arc to match the curvature of the Earth shape because on a ball Earth everything should curve around the Earth. There should be no straight lines on a ball Earth as this model of how it should look like on a ball shows.
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 4:31:55 GMT
Not sure what you mean but on the left image: I mean I've not seen the full video, but the line clearly dissects the fans straight through. With no context, I figured you were trying to show it proves flat earth with having them align. But there is clearly no alignment. So I may not be fully aware of what you were trying to prove here Yes, the orange pylons bend in an arc to match the curvature of the Earth shape because on a ball Earth everything should curve around the Earth. There should be no straight lines on a ball Earth as this model of how it should look like on a ball shows. Then I fail to see your point, as this was discussed more or less at your time stamp.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 19, 2019 4:35:42 GMT
How many flaters does it take to screw in a light bulb?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 4:37:06 GMT
Yes, the orange pylons bend in an arc to match the curvature of the Earth shape because on a ball Earth everything should curve around the Earth. There should be no straight lines on a ball Earth as this model of how it should look like on a ball shows. Then I fail to see your point, as this was discussed more or less at your time stamp. I'll try to explain it better tomorrow, time to call it a day on my end. Been nice chatting with you, and don't feel bad not getting something right away. It's been like this with many of us, including myself. It's just that I've been following this subject for a long enough time to have many things repeatably drilled into me until things finally clicked. Have a good night, Ruliya.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 4:38:12 GMT
How many flaters does it take to screw in a light bulb?
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 19, 2019 4:40:38 GMT
How many flaters does it take to screw in a light bulb? For flaters it takes none because they are all flat on their backs! 🤣
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