Random flat Earth chit chat

Still sourcing only YouTube FE videos I see. Those are part of a conspiracy to swindle people into believing some fairy tale deity exists and made the world.

Last time I tried to entertain speculating possible motive, you all tried to strawman me based on speculation (as if that proves anything).

You seem upset. So what if the world is flat, not like it's the end of the world... well, not until you find the edge.

Why, you want to look at more NASA footage?

You're the one with a model to defend. You think the earth is flat. I want to test that.

Hence the need to zoom so we can examine a smaller area with all 575 megapixels.

Optical zoom, not digital. Digital zoom isn't really zooming, it just blows up the image and infers the missing detail.

Which is why I didn't use Mt. Everest. it's too small. I mentioned North America.

But a better example would be Africa as viewed form Madagascar. From Madagascar, Africa's east coast should cover about 40° of arc. That's plenty big enough. And since both Madagascar and Mozambique (the part of Africa closest to Madagascar) have mountains over 2,000 m in elevation, there's no way a flat sea could interfere with the view from one to the other.

So why can't we see a great swath of Africa from Madagascar? It's about 1,000 km across the sea (using a standard flat earth polar map). Can we see 1,000 km? Well, we can test that...

I'm willing to concede your model's claims about the distance to the sun. You mentioned Eratosthenes's measurements didn't prove the globe, and you're right. Those measurements are entirely consistent with a flat earth. So what do they tell us? Eratosthenes measured that the sun was directly overhead in Syene at the same time it was 7° below zenith at Alexandria. Since Syene and Alexandria are about 500 nautical miles apart, that's all we need to calculate the height of the sun (assuming the earth is flat).

7° below zenith is 83° above the horizon, so the height of the sun should be 500 nautical miles times the tangent of 83°. That's about 4,000 nautical miles, or 7,400 km.

Then, since we can measure the apparent size of the sun (30 arc minutes), we can calculate the sun's diameter from its height. The sun is therefore about 65 km wide.

We can see the sun pretty well. With the help of telescopes, we can resolve that it's almost a sphere, and it has smoother edges. We can even see surface features, and that's at a distance of over 7,000 km.

So if Africa is only 1,000 km from Madagascar, and both have tall mountains, why can't we see one from the other?

Not if both you and the object you're viewing are taller than the splash. The splash only obscures the view if you're looking from the waterline, rather than above it.

You made a claim. I think the experiment you mentioned isn't testing what it claims to be testing, so I suggested a modification.

That's also measurable. And, as you point out, solvable with infrared cameras.

That you think that's relevant on this scale suggests you don't understand how small these wavelengths are.

And even that can be overcome using interferometry, though we don't need to for these tests.

It isn't the height of rationality?

Oh, so you do remember me analyzing NASA footage and not just hand wave dismissed them as you've asserted.

So in other words, if you don't see it, it doesn't exist? That's a small world you live in TF.

So, if you're going by what you see and observe, your surroundings are flat and if you changed your surroundings to mountains, or hills or even canyons...Then what you observe would not be flat, would it? You seem to have no interest in doing your own experimentations, you want to resource info from a bunch of folks who are better at bullshit and smokescreening,  than they are at presenting facts.

The more evidence that is produced against their Flat Earth claims, the more backpedaling and spin doctoring they do. It's at the point where they twist the facts into versions that support their narrative, but that isn't how science works. Science gets it's answers from the results, it doesn't change the results to fit the answer.  

He's looking through his bs youtube video channels to try and find something that will back his claims. 

Yes, we know. Sadly, the FEers discount every piece of evidence shown to them. EVERY PIECE. It's all fake.

I accepted this at face value on his part. Then I challenged him to show me the edge of the Earth. He made a disparaging remark instead of acknowledging he had the inability to prove flat Earth.