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Post by Lebanese Dude on Dec 28, 2018 20:24:16 GMT
I want sexed up female romances, if only to lure the thirsty internet QQers into liking the game rather than whine about SJW shit in yet another BioWare game.
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Post by phoray on Dec 28, 2018 20:27:34 GMT
If anything has to go away it is the whole "rep" thing I suppose rep is used for representation I can't tell if you're talking about "Representation" or being a punctuation/short hand english person here. I'll assume the former, because that's a conversation that isn't annoying. I think Bioware is one of the only video game makers out there where different sexualities play a vital role in one's enjoyment of the game. They aren't just there- you can interact with them and love them. I recognize they reach a niche market with this (not just different sexualities, but people willing to interact with a video game on this level.) I have no problem with rolling a different gender to replay and get that content that was blocked me on the other PTs. And I think they do the "Rep" thing as best they can and are very open to learning more about how their audience (us) wants to interact with this content. (well, I'm thinking of the DA team. The Mass Effect team is doing a pretty terrible job at being inclusive in a way that doesn't feel totally backhanded.) I do NOT like "Representation" when it's done badly. I think Black Panther is an average action flick and that those who were looking for Good Rep got shafted. Many have told me this is an unpopular opinion, however.
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Post by cankiie on Dec 28, 2018 20:28:44 GMT
I want sexed up female romances, if only to lure the thirsty internet QQers into liking the game rather than whine about SJW shit in yet another BioWare game. There is no need to go ahead and be insulting towards a certain group of people with a specific sexuality. Afterall, isn't the reason we are currently seeing the exact opposite because another group started "QQing" in the past?
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 28, 2018 20:30:45 GMT
I want sexed up female romances, if only to lure the thirsty internet QQers into liking the game rather than whine about SJW shit in yet another BioWare game. There is no need to go ahead and be insulting towards a certain group of people with a specific sexuality. Afterall, isn't the reason we are currently seeing the exact opposite because another group started "QQing" in the past? Nobody specified any sexuality, you don't need to get all defensive. He specified a behavior, that is, sadly for you, mostly apparent in heterosexual men.
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Post by phoray on Dec 28, 2018 20:31:46 GMT
But there is always a vastly larger percentage of men than women. I could very well be wrong, but that is just typical statistics if you look at video games. Video games as a whole are played by men. Bioware specifically (and perhaps just Dragon Age even more specifically), have something more like a 60/40 breakdown. So women and their preferences are being heard almost as loudly as men in their Board Rooms.
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Post by phoray on Dec 28, 2018 20:32:40 GMT
....what is QQing? My only guess from context is "cueing up to bang video game characters" ?
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 28, 2018 20:34:36 GMT
....what is QQing? My only guess from context is "cueing up to bang video game characters" ? crying. QQ are eyes with tear drops falling down!
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Post by cankiie on Dec 28, 2018 20:34:52 GMT
If anything has to go away it is the whole "rep" thing I suppose rep is used for representation I can't tell if you're talking about "Representation" or being a punctuation/short hand english person here. I'll assume the former, because that's a conversation that isn't annoying. I think Bioware is one of the only video game makers out there where different sexualities play a vital role in one's enjoyment of the game. They aren't just there- you can interact with them and love them. I recognize they reach a niche market with this (not just different sexualities, but people willing to interact with a video game on this level.) I have no problem with rolling a different gender to replay and get that content that was blocked me on the other PTs. And I think they do the "Rep" thing as best they can and are very open to learning more about how their audience (us) wants to interact with this content. (well, I'm thinking of the DA team. The Mass Effect team is doing a pretty terrible job at being inclusive in a way that doesn't feel totally backhanded.) I do NOT like "Representation" when it's done badly. I think Black Panther is an average action flick and that those who were looking for Good Rep got shafted. Many have told me this is an unpopular opinion, however. Attempting to make anything just for the sake of representation in general is just ridicolous. Overall, the idea of having to have someone with the same skin colour, or sexuality, or whatever as your personal self as representation is ridicolous. I also don't really see Black Panther as a representation movie, but just MCU doing what MCU has always been doing, taking not so popular heroes and making them popular.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Dec 28, 2018 20:37:36 GMT
I want sexed up female romances, if only to lure the thirsty internet QQers into liking the game rather than whine about SJW shit in yet another BioWare game. There is no need to go ahead and be insulting towards a certain group of people with a specific sexuality. Afterall, isn't the reason we are currently seeing the exact opposite because another group started "QQing" in the past? ...Pretty sure it also includes bisexual people, and even the occasional gay person who takes up the flag. But since you went there, your second statement just falls into false equivocation. Other groups that "QQ'd" in the past were complaining due to lack of representation, as opposed to people who currently whine about how bangable that representation is, then start blaming the existence of the "other" representation for how repressed they are. Again, I'm not trying to be bitter. I want there to be standard fare hot sexy ladies for people to romance. It's not like they are any less justified in existing. Might as well just cut the head of the snake though.
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Post by cankiie on Dec 28, 2018 20:41:59 GMT
There is no need to go ahead and be insulting towards a certain group of people with a specific sexuality. Afterall, isn't the reason we are currently seeing the exact opposite because another group started "QQing" in the past? Nobody specified any sexuality, you don't need to get all defensive. He specified a behavior, that is, sadly for you, mostly apparent in heterosexual men. I am usually not easily susceptible to sugar coating. I know what was meant, and you know too it seems. And I disagree with that opinion. But that is a whole other can of worms. But I can safely say, if fear of these so called 'QQers' is truly a thing, then John Epler has already managed to turn that part of the customer base away anyhow. the DA franchise is also under EA control which turn away even more customers. I am personally trying to walk a little more safely on the line, because the DA franchise could very easily go the route of ME and Battlefield at this point, and I don't want that, I want to see a proper conclusion to the story!
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Post by KingDarious BBB on Dec 28, 2018 20:44:03 GMT
I think appealing to the male fantasy would work currently. Do we really know what's BioWare core audience is? If I'm not mistaken I believe DAI was nearly split 50/50 between men and women. Once you factor in sexual orientation that core audience grows smaller. BioWare already took a hit earlier for MEA for appealing to bro gamers. Now don't get me wrong if BioWare want to give us a sexed up female romance interest I won't complain, butlooking at it from a business perspective that would be a horrible move. Was MEA appealing to bro gamers? There is something I have missed. Video games in general, at least if you are not counting mobile games, but I don't think video games and mobile games are very much within the same category either way. But there is always a vastly larger percentage of men than women. I could very well be wrong, but that is just typical statistics if you look at video games. Their was some people that viewed straight male Ryder having the most romances, and gay male Ryder having little to no romance, as appealing to bro gamers. You already have people labeling Dragon Age 4 a SJW game. The last thing BioWare would need would be attacks from the other side. Creating a possible important female NPC sexy, just to appeal to a certain demographic would be terrible PR. I'm aware that most of people that play console games are male. I was specifically referring to DAI sales. It is well known BioWare have a higher female demographic than other game companies. Why would BioWare take that risk and alienate a portion of them?
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Dec 28, 2018 20:44:21 GMT
I am personally trying to walk a little more safely on the line, because the DA franchise could very easily go the route of ME at this point, and I don't want that, I want to see a proper conclusion to the story! It probably will because BioWare will inevitably have something that offends the delicate sensibilities of anti-SJW whiny QQ'ers Can't wait to see what the scandal will be this time.
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 28, 2018 20:46:57 GMT
Can we at least get a little further into development and teasers until we start going all '' MUH SJWS MUH ANTI-SJWS '' Fucking shit.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 28, 2018 20:46:59 GMT
Some random group you run into all being bi is extremely unusual unless the group is preselected (which is possibly why you experience things differently). Which in a plot like your typical Bioware game, is definitely not the case. It's not something-phobic (really, I'm getting rather tired of those terms used to justify the demand for an actual privilege), it's a matter of world consistency. Damn it.
For some reason though, I could kinda imagine Antiva and Orlais having heterosexuality as the minority sexuality and bisexuality (or pansexuality if you will) as the majority. That is, of course, only based on the types of characters you meet that are from these places Sue me Not sure if srs, but there's not a "type" of person that's bisexual...
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Post by cankiie on Dec 28, 2018 20:51:11 GMT
Was MEA appealing to bro gamers? There is something I have missed. Video games in general, at least if you are not counting mobile games, but I don't think video games and mobile games are very much within the same category either way. But there is always a vastly larger percentage of men than women. I could very well be wrong, but that is just typical statistics if you look at video games. Their was some people that viewed straight male Ryder having the most romances, and gay male Ryder having little to no romance, as appealing to bro gamers. You already have people labeling Dragon Age 4 a SJW game. The last thing BioWare would need would be attacks from the other side. Creating a possible important female NPC sexy, just to appeal to a certain demographic would be terrible PR. I'm aware that most of people that play console games are male. I was specifically referring to DAI sales. It is well known BioWare have a higher female demographic than other game companies. Why would BioWare take that risk and alienate a portion of them? Arh right. I think male Ryder had about 8 romances And female Ryder had about 7 romances 5 of the romances was shared. But I don't know why creating a sexy female NPC would be terrible PR regardless. As far as I am aware, everyone likes very sexy people, be they male or female. But yes, I honestly can see roleplaying games in general having a higher count of female players indeed. It some ways it does make sense.
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Post by KingDarious BBB on Dec 28, 2018 20:52:36 GMT
I'm here to say that Morrigan looks more manly than Cassandra. Fight me
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 28, 2018 20:52:54 GMT
I'm torn between wanting a gay disney prince or a gay disney villain as a romance. I think since Dorian is a pretty goody-goody I'd rather get a villain, or at least someone edgier and morally corrupt. Call me insane but I think Tzekel-Kan is hot as damn. Give please.
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Post by cankiie on Dec 28, 2018 20:53:54 GMT
I am personally trying to walk a little more safely on the line, because the DA franchise could very easily go the route of ME at this point, and I don't want that, I want to see a proper conclusion to the story! It probably will because BioWare will inevitably have something that offends the delicate sensibilities of anti-SJW whiny QQ'ers Can't wait to see what the scandal will be this time. To be honest, there might have been a genuine case in regards to MEA. With bioware being so adamant at NOT firing a certain employee (or at the very least talk to him about his social media activity) of their's that were quite vocal about his hatred for white people on twitter.
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Post by cankiie on Dec 28, 2018 20:54:56 GMT
For some reason though, I could kinda imagine Antiva and Orlais having heterosexuality as the minority sexuality and bisexuality (or pansexuality if you will) as the majority. That is, of course, only based on the types of characters you meet that are from these places Sue me Not sure if srs, but there's not a "type" of person that's bisexual... As I said. Sue me
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 28, 2018 20:56:03 GMT
I am personally trying to walk a little more safely on the line, because the DA franchise could very easily go the route of ME at this point, and I don't want that, I want to see a proper conclusion to the story! It probably will because BioWare will inevitably have something that offends the delicate sensibilities of anti-SJW whiny QQ'ers Can't wait to see what the scandal will be this time. Well, if Mae is a romance option or even a mandatory character I guarantee that will be on. Maybe having an Ace Spectrum romance as well judging from the complaints about characters without sex scenes in the past.
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 28, 2018 20:57:01 GMT
I'm here to say that Morrigan looks more manly than Cassandra. Fight me I don't need to. Even Male Lavellans are more feminine than her.
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 28, 2018 20:58:07 GMT
It probably will because BioWare will inevitably have something that offends the delicate sensibilities of anti-SJW whiny QQ'ers Can't wait to see what the scandal will be this time. Well, if Mae is a romance option or even a mandatory character I guarantee that will be on. Maybe having an Ace Spectrum romance as well judging from the complaints about characters without sex scenes in the past. People whined when Vetra didn't have a graphic detailed sex scene, and blamed it on her being made bi in the last second so it had to be cut. I'm not sure the validity of that '' rumor '' but they still whined lol.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Dec 28, 2018 20:58:52 GMT
I don't need to. Even Male Lavellans are more feminine than her.
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Post by cankiie on Dec 28, 2018 21:01:58 GMT
It probably will because BioWare will inevitably have something that offends the delicate sensibilities of anti-SJW whiny QQ'ers Can't wait to see what the scandal will be this time. Well, if Mae is a romance option or even a mandatory character I guarantee that will be on. Maybe having an Ace Spectrum romance as well judging from the complaints about characters without sex scenes in the past. Just remember that the introduction of homosexual characters in DA:I did not crash the franchise. It takes a little more than just the introduction of a certain type of characters to cause the "heterosexual whiners" to truly turn away and slander a game. There will always be someone.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 28, 2018 21:02:58 GMT
Well, if Mae is a romance option or even a mandatory character I guarantee that will be on. Maybe having an Ace Spectrum romance as well judging from the complaints about characters without sex scenes in the past. People whined when Vetra didn't have a graphic detailed sex scene, and blamed it on her being made bi in the last second so it had to be cut. I'm not sure the validity of that '' rumor '' but they still whined lol. Yep. Then there were all the “*insert LI here* isn’t a real romance because they don’t have a sex scene” arguments.
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