DA 4 Romances! New info for real this time!!! Zom-bangin'?

Them having run the street as kids together before FATE separated them for years only for them to meet once more! And the arm being gone and something Andrew feels self consious about and then how PC takes Andrew's "hand not hand" and holds it and puts round his waist like he's screaming, "I don't see your hand not hand, touch me, I love you and want you"

and and and

I also really loved that about the Anders romance, which is still my number one across all bioware games. It's strange they'd get the impression that gay and bi men don't want emotional depth and commitment from romances, given it seems to be the one thing everyone here is strongly agreeing on, despite extremely disparate taste in most other ways. Not strange in terms of stereotypes of the gay community being promiscuous/noncommittal, though, I guess.

And, yeah, I've never believed Jaal was always going to be available. If it wasn't for the social media backlash, I still don't believe he'd have been a m/m option. lol I mean, his writer may very well have had the intention early, but I think they scrapped for time with full intention of Reyes and Gil being it in the final product well before release. Of course, it is just speculation.

Solas not being bisexual because lack of time is a bummer. Solas not being bisexual because they wanted to avoid a trope is even worse. But I still haven't heard a good narrative reason for Solas not being Bi. AS in, who he is as a person.

All along it's been implied that they write the person/character first and then decide later if the character they wrote prefers women or men. The writers didn't ask themselves as writers what sexuality Solas had  and Solas "says" he's straight. Solas could have said, "I'm bi" and the writers would have over ruled him with, "That's too tropey, you can't be bi or gay, because reasons not related to who you are, so your professed sexuality is irrelevant."

I'm terrible at expressing myself, so I hope you got my point. His straightness has nothing to do with his character and who he is, and everything to do with avoiding "tropes" and time constraints.  Never mind that Dorian's conversion story is a trope I've seen portrayed since the 90s as a kid. You can't claim you avoid tropes like the plague and then embrace another one and expect ME to not notice the convenience of it.

I mean, I can't defend the ME teams, we had to fight to be treated like equal customers with every single game (so maybe it's better Anthem doesn't have romances), but I'd like to think that the DA team does not believe, even subconsciously, that gay men don't like commitment...

Both Bull's and Dorian's relationships felt very casual, so hopefully they'll go the other way next time around, if for no other reason than not repeating themselves.

I know, I'm so into it.

I eagerly await Greedfall almost as much as I await DA4. most likely get Greedfall, a new IP, before we get DA4 tho but also... something to feed my greedy romantic heart while I wait for DA4

Jacob was horrible representation for a black man. As you listed he's practically a walking stereotype. It's one of reasons why I personally can't stand his character.

They announced that there will be straight/bi/gay romances, so kudos to them for being inclusive
And seeing how they handled romances in witcher 3 I'd say we will get a good ones for sure.

There's also Cyberpunk 2077 to look forward to, and I'm curious as to how they'll deal with romances. 

I can only guess at how they'll handle the romances. My issue with it is that right off the bat, they've taken an RP choice out of my hands. I have to play a person who would get drunk at a party and have a one night stand with a stranger. That doesn't give me much to work with that I like. And if they're going to take that much control of the RP, then I'd probably end up with "flirt options" like I got with Shepard that basicly boiled down to, "wanna fuck?". Which is what they were with the human and the cockroach.

They were too busy trying to make a proper game to even consider making more than a single proper romance.

So that half nude cold start wasn't the true beginning of the game?