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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jun 14, 2024 5:37:17 GMT
Okay, imagine if BioWare added a secret ending, where if you idled for 20 min at the scaffolding... ... Varric talks Solas down. The end. Are we in the mountains and is there food to watch while we wait?
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Jun 14, 2024 5:41:56 GMT
Can't wait to see the Crossroads if the environment screenshots we've already seen are any indication. I hope they keep up the thing from Trespasser where the Crossroads look different to elves! That was a really cool detail.
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 14, 2024 5:45:46 GMT
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A: As a faction, the Inquisition doesn't really feature prominently in the story - your appearance options are more reflective of the factions and styles you'll encounter in The Veilguard. 🙂
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 14, 2024 5:47:28 GMT
Okay, imagine if BioWare added a secret ending, where if you idled for 20 min at the scaffolding... ... Varric talks Solas down. The end. Are we in the mountains and is there food to watch while we wait? I think there was some water there... Fishing minigame?
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 14, 2024 5:48:26 GMT
Can't wait to see the Crossroads if the environment screenshots we've already seen are any indication. I hope they keep up the thing from Trespasser where the Crossroads look different to elves! That was a really cool detail. Hell, I hope they enhance the effect! From the novel, it sounded like a more prominent difference.
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Post by Grog Muffins on Jun 14, 2024 5:54:11 GMT
I still have questions... So let's say it is Rook's actions that bring the old gods back into the world. Ok, let's grant that. Still, this would never have happened to Rook had not Solas decided to perform a very dangerous ritual that he didn't have enough trust in anyone to have them vet his plans. Solas is responsible for the fade and all but is it his right to fix it? Is it really his responsibility and even more importantly: DOES THEDAS NEED FIXING? I get it there are demons, there are blights, there are bad things but there are also unified and concerted efforts to manage those grievances. The Inquisition patched up a bad situation that was created largely because Solas had a bad plan that went wrong. I still have questions... Perhaps because Solas is the only person that can fix it, or fulfill a specific task? Not just because of knowledge he possesses, but some sort of power he has? You know... kinda like Inquisitor during DAI? Someone, who - for a time - possessed power not even an elven god had. The Veil is Solas' creation after all; he knows how it works and what can undo it. He also possesses magic and knowledge probably unavailable to anyone else - and capability to wield it. The dude is literally from a different world, or at least a different time period, back when world was very different. Also... there are clues suggesting that Thedas may have an expiration date. You say that Rook's actions would've never happened had not Solas decided to perform a very dangerous ritual - that's fair. But Solas himself appears to be acting because *something is coming*. What it is, we don't yet know. But it has forced Solas to awaken when his state was still weakened - like he couldn't wait any longer. And he has comments, like when he's discussing Wardens and says things like "they've bought us some time - I will grant them that" Bought us some time from what?? In the gameplay reveal Solas tells Varric the Veil is a wound on the world and must be healed. That is the only motivation and explanation he gives for his actions and it's the only one he's been giving since Trespasser. I can't read his mind and can't divine his motivations in the stars if he won't say anything other than this. The world will never be perfect and most of the time you won't have the perfect context to people's actions and what's happening, however that does not mean you shouldn't do anything. Solas would have you believe that action isn't inherently better than inaction but when my survival is threatened with no further explanation than "this is how it must be because I deem it so" that's where I have a problem. I will not let myself be crippled into inaction by overthinking "what ifs", that's not how survival is attained. I will do what I believe is right and in my favor based on all the available knowledge I have at the time. If anything comes out after the fact that gives more context, that might suck, but again, I can't see into the future and I can't be rooted to the spot second guessing my every action, just letting someone else decide my fate for me. Solas only talks about how he doesn't like the world that currently exists but he's a few thousands of years too late to make that judgment for it. People have built themselves back up from the remnants of what the creation of the Veil left behind and now he's saying he cares nothing for all the hardships the elves and other races that made it through that apocalypses suffered and overcame to still be around. He has no right to make that choice, especially if he refuses to elaborate. Bottom line, people have a right to decide their own fate, regardless of whether Solas has good reasons for what he's doing or not. Advanced or complicated knowledge is not inherently impossible to explain. Valta doesn't explain much because something she's never imagined just happened to her and she's overwhelmed, she needs some time to come to grips with it and understand it but in no way does it preclude her from sharing that knowledge down the line once she understands and can put it into words. Also, the "we're leaving with more questions than answers" is an obvious writing stinger to come back in a later installment to get those answers, it's a line that I never took to mean anything in-world, it's meant for the player to keep them hooked on a promise of more to come. Pre-Veil Thedas was akin to a hyper-advanced civilization, then the Veil caused the apocalypse and threw everyone back into the stone age and they have to work their way back up to that point from very little. That doesn't mean it's impossible and can never be attained again, it'll just take time. It might even look different because the way it'll be attained will be different but that point can still be reached. Our own technology and medical advancements today seem like magical powers beyond human comprehension to societies that lived thousands of years ago and yet we got here through perseverance and the desire to understand more and more of our existence. Reducing everything to "you'll never understand" or "this is beyond your comprehension" is, frankly, insulting from Solas to a world that has survived and rebuilt itself and is still working towards the future after what he did.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 14, 2024 5:59:38 GMT
From Discord: Q: Will there be a Inquisition theme gear? Bc as much as I like the Grey Warden I like the Inquisition more. A: As a faction, the Inquisition doesn't really feature prominently in the story - your appearance options are more reflective of the factions and styles you'll encounter in The Veilguard. 🙂 Yet Varric has a belt buckle with Inquisition's symbol, while Harding has a pouch on her belt with Inquisition's eye. So there may be something, but rather subtle and unassuming.
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Post by Grog Muffins on Jun 14, 2024 6:05:28 GMT
All romancable characters being pan/bi does not make them badly written or have less personality. Just as having all romancable characters being straight wouldn't. It does not make them any more sex dolls with no agency than the romances in previous games are. I agree that romancable characater having a variety of different sexualities would have been good because A ) it would have provided more representation and B ) some people being not interested when you flirt with them adds to immersion. Much as them getting together with some one else when you don't romance them does. But it doesn't make the characters themselves deeper or better written. I sympathize with preferring romances with different sexualities, when it comes to the actual game i don't mind, but when it comes to out of game I'd have preferred they go with various sexualities too - because then i wouldn't have to see posts about how characters with my sexuality are inferior. Sera is one of my least liked characters in Dragon Age, I haven't kept it a secret , but not because I think she's poorly written, I think she's written really well as a character. She has a very emotionally impacting moment for me in her romance that caused me to end things with her precisely because she's such a... person, I guess is the only way I can describe it . When she gave my Inquisitor the ultimatum of either forget everything she saw in the Temple of Mythal or she breaks up with her I felt a bit of whiplash. It was such a manipulative thing to do but it made sense, she has massive self hatred instilled in her by the lady who raised her and she's never been in an environment that helped her heal from it, only exacerbated her feelings of not belonging, and she lashes out with the same manipulation and gaslight she learned growing up, thinking in a twisted way that's what it takes to get someone to love her. That moment had nothing to do with her sexuality, it was a purely trauma fueled response from her upbringing and I think it would have had the same impact regardless of who she had a romantic preference for. However, I don't know if I can think of another character off the top of my head who had something like that, so Gaider's point on the appeal of love interests has merit. In relation to BG3 I also see his point, as much as I love Gale, his arc would have probably been stronger had he not been a romance because his self worth is so tied into Mystra's treatment of him that his healing and moving away from her should have come well before he was ready to be romantically involved with anyone else.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 14, 2024 6:08:14 GMT
From Discord: Q: Will there be a Inquisition theme gear? Bc as much as I like the Grey Warden I like the Inquisition more. A: As a faction, the Inquisition doesn't really feature prominently in the story - your appearance options are more reflective of the factions and styles you'll encounter in The Veilguard. 🙂 Yet Varric has a belt buckle with Inquisition's symbol, while Harding has a pouch on her belt with Inquisition's eye. So there may be something, but rather subtle and unassuming. I think they might've interpreted the question in regards of Rook, given the reference to the GW's gear. The answer specifically refers to 'your appearance', as in the protagonist.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 14, 2024 6:10:24 GMT
From Discord: Q: Will there be a Inquisition theme gear? Bc as much as I like the Grey Warden I like the Inquisition more. A: As a faction, the Inquisition doesn't really feature prominently in the story - your appearance options are more reflective of the factions and styles you'll encounter in The Veilguard. 🙂 That's disappointing. Wonder where the Inquisition is? Maybe there’ll be a DLC that has Inquisition themed weapons, armor, decorations for Lighthouse, etc if there’s nothing in the base game.
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Post by saandrig on Jun 14, 2024 6:22:50 GMT
I wonder if we'll have clothing options in addition to our gear a la BG3? Also, hopefully... transmog.Yeah, we need to be able to switch and use ourselves Lae'zel's Harding's underwear.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 14, 2024 6:42:46 GMT
From Discord: Q: Will there be a Inquisition theme gear? Bc as much as I like the Grey Warden I like the Inquisition more. A: As a faction, the Inquisition doesn't really feature prominently in the story - your appearance options are more reflective of the factions and styles you'll encounter in The Veilguard. 🙂 That's disappointing. Wonder where the Inquisition is? Maybe there’ll be a DLC that has Inquisition themed weapons, armor, decorations for Lighthouse, etc if there’s nothing in the base game. I assume it works under different names... like Veilguard
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 14, 2024 6:43:58 GMT
Yet Varric has a belt buckle with Inquisition's symbol, while Harding has a pouch on her belt with Inquisition's eye. So there may be something, but rather subtle and unassuming. I think they might've interpreted the question in regards of Rook, given the reference to the GW's gear. The answer specifically refers to 'your appearance', as in the protagonist. And that's what I meant - we may get gear that perhaps has some Inquisition symbol somewhere, but it will be a subtle thing, like a buckle or a button.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 14, 2024 7:00:22 GMT
By the way, here's an interesting excerpt I've noticed when I watched this short interview with John Epler (sorry if I didn't notice if it was something brought up here already): "[...] We did start a first version of Dragon Age 4 after Trespasser. Anthem came out, we needed to shift development for that; and so when we came back we really rebooted development, started fresh, but the story's remained the same throughout - the goals of that story have remained the same. We've always wanted to take Solas' story and put a final conclusion on that"That last part doesn't bode well for the egg. I do hope it's not a predetermined conclusion, but that we can have some impact so all sides can be happy. Kinda surprised if it's all wrapped upp in DA:V; does this mean we will ultimately fail and the issue continue without Solas into the next game? Or will something else crop up that somehow would not feel like an anti climax after the Evanuris?
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 14, 2024 7:58:29 GMT
yes no problem. If you think anythink is importent feel free to add. But i will warn you the video is more than 1 hour. So it will take time.
Alright, so. I started listening to it but I'm afraid I don't have the brain capacity left to pay poper attention today (I also did not expect it to be an hour long). I will get back to it tomorrow morning, though! Another german gamer have said in an inerview with gronkh: Traslotion: You can skill your companions,by improving your relationship with them. Are you talking about the video where Gronkh is talking with Maurice Weber about his impressions from his interview and preview session with John Epler? I watched that last night but didn't take any notes since they mentioned that the interview will be uploaded later, so I was planning to pay closer attention to that instead. I wonder when it's going to be available... That was my question as well. I don't finde the interview they are talking about. No clue where i have to look at. Maybe i will look at gamestar today, if it was work he does for them.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 14, 2024 8:02:28 GMT
I joined up over at Discord but I don't know how the hell anyone is having any kind of conversation over there. It's like a million people yapping away at the same time and There's no way to make sense of it all. I'll probably keep lurking for info. I hope for some samaritan, that will put it here. I just can't get along with discord.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 14, 2024 8:12:58 GMT
I blame Solas, the man who caused this whole issue to begin with. Everything that happens because of it is his fault. To be honest, I am inclined to agree with you. The main fault with Varric talking to him was trying to get him to stop. What he should have said is that if you can't live with what you've done in the past, why don't you kill yourself? Then there is only one death and the other gods remain locked away. Or is there perhaps something you're not telling us? (This is what I'd have liked to have said at the end of Trespasser) You are right. I feel so unsatisfied with how the story get together now. I wouldn't call it bad writing. But i am not happy that the inquistion looks so dumb.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 14, 2024 8:32:06 GMT
Didn't the Inquisition disband? It's just a couple of people at the end.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Jun 14, 2024 8:33:20 GMT
Yeah, I've always found it weird that you can flirt with some unavailable characters and not others. How the hell do all my Inquisitors magically know that Blackwall is straight and Varric is unavailable? You can flirt with Cassandra, Cullen, Dorian, Sera and even Vivienne and get shot down, that's logically how it should work for everyone! I give them a pass on Leliana since she's very obviously not in a place to start a relationship when the Inquisitor meets her and it would be rude and weird to hit on her, but there's really no excuse with Blackwall and Varric. Same with Sebastian in DA2, for that matter. Oh my god I completely forgot about Varric! It would be such a HOOT to flirt with him! And you know he'd use that when writing tales about the Inquisitor, and would probably bring it up every chance he gets! Yeah. You know he would give you some hilarious bullshit excuse - like the wild stories he tells you if you quiz him about where he got the crossbow when you first meet - and then the Inquisitor could have had the option to say 'wait, this is why you turned me down? You told me you were secretly engaged to Empress Celene!' when they meet Bianca later.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 14, 2024 9:05:42 GMT
Sera is one of my least liked characters in Dragon Age, I haven't kept it a secret , but not because I think she's poorly written, I think she's written really well as a character. She has a very emotionally impacting moment for me in her romance that caused me to end things with her precisely because she's such a... person, I guess is the only way I can describe it . When she gave my Inquisitor the ultimatum of either forget everything she saw in the Temple of Mythal or she breaks up with her I felt a bit of whiplash. It was such a manipulative thing to do but it made sense, To be honest (and I've recently mentioned this) what I found odd about Sera's response to the Temple of Mythal is that it seemed back to front to me. I didn't romance her but she still called my Inquisitor an idiot for believing in it. That seemed a strange response because surely it vindicated everything she had been saying about Dalish and even city elf culture, that it was based on a lie. She presumably thought it was all made up stories but just because it turns out the elven gods were real, doesn't take away from the fact that the stories were wrong. The gods weren't fluffy and benign. Mythal was killed. The ancient elves don't think modern elves are real elves, so what is the point of trying to live like them? Yet she wanted my Dalish to reject the truth and what? Go back to believing the lie? She stated it was all the work of demons, so based on that logic I could still go on believing what I had up to then. Do you see why I had a problem with this? As it was, my female Lavellan had fallen out of friendship with her after the punching the guy to a pulp incident, so she wasn't bothered what Sera thought, whilst my male Lavellan, who had viewed Sera as a petulant child but managed to keep her sweet up to then, just shrugged and said, then call me stupid if you wish but I'm accepting it as the truth. I could never see how either of them would have romanced her, even if she had been available to my male Lavellan. Her anti-elf rhetoric was so palpable it seemed like self abuse to even consider it.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 14, 2024 9:08:31 GMT
All romancable characters being pan/bi does not make them badly written or have less personality. Just as having all romancable characters being straight wouldn't. It does not make them any more sex dolls with no agency than the romances in previous games are. I agree that romancable characater having a variety of different sexualities would have been good because A ) it would have provided more representation and B ) some people being not interested when you flirt with them adds to immersion. Much as them getting together with some one else when you don't romance them does. But it doesn't make the characters themselves deeper or better written. I sympathize with preferring romances with different sexualities, when it comes to the actual game i don't mind, but when it comes to out of game I'd have preferred they go with various sexualities too - because then i wouldn't have to see posts about how characters with my sexuality are inferior. The problem isn't the writing but the implementation and as you say it A) more representation. And sorry to say that: all games with only pan romance i have seen, have this problem. That is why i prefere the DAO and DAI romance system.
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jun 14, 2024 9:11:50 GMT
I can't tell you all just how eagerly I'm awaiting for the cast list and specifically to learn who the voice actors for the new characters are. I already love Rook's voice from the gameplay demo and I'm hoping for some more eargasms.
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Post by trengilly on Jun 14, 2024 9:32:36 GMT
Okay, imagine if BioWare added a secret ending, where if you idled for 20 min at the scaffolding... ... Varric talks Solas down. The end. Or Solas succeeds. Achievement Unlocked: Well, At Least We Tried? I can absolutely see Larian doing this . . . Bioware not so much. 🤣
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 14, 2024 9:34:30 GMT
Yeah, I'm curious to get to know the characters a bit more - I'm behind on Tevinter Nights, so I don't really have any insights from that (is that good or bad?) so all I really have are the tiny lite blurbs of information they've given. Made me sad to see Mary Kirby's name as a writer and remember she's not there anymore, I still think that's a grave injustice to her contributions to the franchise. Getting to know companions really is the part I like the most about these games and what makes them stand out. I have a friend who's been unfortunate enough to become quite sick in the past year, and when I talked to her about DA:V coming this fall her voice lit up so much with excitement! She doesn't follow the news or people's comments, she just saw some snippets of the gameplay and knew based on her previous experiences that she is going to have a good time. It was a good reminder to myself to not get too hung up on details and to just go in and try to have fun.
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Post by Grog Muffins on Jun 14, 2024 9:39:50 GMT
Sera is one of my least liked characters in Dragon Age, I haven't kept it a secret , but not because I think she's poorly written, I think she's written really well as a character. She has a very emotionally impacting moment for me in her romance that caused me to end things with her precisely because she's such a... person, I guess is the only way I can describe it . When she gave my Inquisitor the ultimatum of either forget everything she saw in the Temple of Mythal or she breaks up with her I felt a bit of whiplash. It was such a manipulative thing to do but it made sense, To be honest (and I've recently mentioned this) what I found odd about Sera's response to the Temple of Mythal is that it seemed back to front to me. I didn't romance her but she still called my Inquisitor an idiot for believing in it. That seemed a strange response because surely it vindicated everything she had been saying about Dalish and even city elf culture, that it was based on a lie. She presumably thought it was all made up stories but just because it turns out the elven gods were real, doesn't take away from the fact that the stories were wrong. The gods weren't fluffy and benign. Mythal was killed. The ancient elves don't think modern elves are real elves, so what is the point of trying to live like them? Yet she wanted my Dalish to reject the truth and what? Go back to believing the lie? She stated it was all the work of demons, so based on that logic I could still go on believing what I had up to then. Do you see why I had a problem with this? As it was, my female Lavellan had fallen out of friendship with her after the punching the guy to a pulp incident, so she wasn't bothered what Sera thought, whilst my male Lavellan, who had viewed Sera as a petulant child but managed to keep her sweet up to then, just shrugged and said, then call me stupid if you wish but I'm accepting it as the truth. I could never see how either of them would have romanced her, even if she had been available to my male Lavellan. Her anti-elf rhetoric was so palpable it seemed like self abuse to even consider it. Sera is obviously not mature enough but also I don't think she's mentally stable enough to have a reasonable and logical conversation about anything elf related but also more esoteric stuff like belief. All she's known her entire life was extremes, she doesn't know what to do with nuance and how to grasp it. She wants things to be simple because simple is easy. She says she joined the Inquisition because she wants to understand but she doesn't actually want that, she wants to be proven right and validated. After the attack on Haven she suddenly is very shaken by the fact that the seat of the Maker could be real-real, not faith-real. She says she believes in Andraste but the second Cory showes up and talks about walking in the Black City she's very shaken and says she didn't want to be that right. She's not really prepared to understand the nuance of being proud you're an elf because you're still finding and rebuilding pieces of your identity but at the same time understand you got some things wrong on the way to rebuilding your culture from scraps. That requires self reflection and in the main game Sera wasn't really one for that.
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