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Post by themikefest on Jun 14, 2024 18:29:17 GMT
That sounds kind of depressing actually. I'm gonna make Solas move past his regret with my foot up his ass and I find that super uplifting. What I find more uplifting is making him tranquil. Then have him dressed up in a Jester outfit parading him around town.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 14, 2024 18:29:44 GMT
I'd like to know what exactly they mean by the companions not being playersexual, and having their '' own identity and preferences '' because sounds like a load of nugshit to me. Like, if they have preferences, but none of them amount to anything, what gives? That to me, IF ANYTHING, is a sign of playersexuality. The companions are pansexual and maybe with preferences they mean the relationship they get, if we don't romance them? Possibly. I doubt they planned several relationships for each companion, so Harding possibly ending up with Taash might mean that the leans more towards women.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 14, 2024 18:30:28 GMT
Except Taash. Must be a Qunari thing. I mean the Arishok was a rogue in the game files… Yes, but if Taash isn't a warrior, it means we have only Davrin as one. I doubt it's the case.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 14, 2024 18:33:02 GMT
I'd like to know what exactly they mean by the companions not being playersexual, and having their '' own identity and preferences '' because sounds like a load of nugshit to me. Like, if they have preferences, but none of them amount to anything, what gives? That to me, IF ANYTHING, is a sign of playersexuality. They mentioned the companions will talk about previous relationships and preferences they have. But that is the thing, Lucanis might say the his ideal type of partner is a big rugged qunari man with lots of muscles, and that he is extremely vary of mages, but here comes a dainty elf woman and a mage to boot, that doesn't resemble any of the preferences that Lucanis has mentioned, yet she gets to score with Lucanis because she is the all powerful player and in her presence, companion's preferences mean nothing, zero, nada, nil. How is that not the most ultimate form of playersexuality? Hah! And at worst, these kinds of romances veer awfully close to resembling terrible erotic fiction about '' converting '' people's sexuality as long as they meet the right partner.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 14, 2024 18:33:28 GMT
Good thing I am old curmudgeon Boomer and have zero clue what half these terms or phrases mean at all. ace? playersexual? Not a foggy clue. Ace/Asexual means a complete or partial lack of sexual attraction or interest in sexual activity, in short. Playersexual just means the character doesn't have an established sexual preference but adapts it to the player's character. DA2 and BG3's romances, except I think Sebastian, were playersexual. Sebastian was straight, aren't he?
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Post by g_scoundrel on Jun 14, 2024 18:33:38 GMT
It seems there will be set surnames after all
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Post by sni2 on Jun 14, 2024 18:34:18 GMT
I'd like to know what exactly they mean by the companions not being playersexual, and having their '' own identity and preferences '' because sounds like a load of nugshit to me. Like, if they have preferences, but none of them amount to anything, what gives? That to me, IF ANYTHING, is a sign of playersexuality. They mentioned the companions will talk about previous relationships and preferences they have. Imagine if we get some later Inquisition gossip from Harding? Like, "oh, her/him/them? We were f****** the entire time".
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 14, 2024 18:34:27 GMT
Good thing I am old curmudgeon Boomer and have zero clue what half these terms or phrases mean at all. ace? playersexual? Not a foggy clue. Ace is for asexuality. There are different types of asexuals, I've had an 18 year partnership/relationship with one, they respond differently to sex. Some are not interested in it at all and some have very strict conditions under which they might get aroused. I differentiate here between sex and romance/companionship. Corrinne is very openly ace as well. Playersexual just means your companions won't be gated like last time where you could only romance Sera if you were female and Dorian if you were male.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 14, 2024 18:35:27 GMT
Ace/Asexual means a complete or partial lack of sexual attraction or interest in sexual activity, in short. Playersexual just means the character doesn't have an established sexual preference but adapts it to the player's character. DA2 and BG3's romances, except I think Sebastian, were playersexual. Sebastian was straight, aren't he? Yep.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jun 14, 2024 18:35:31 GMT
Honestly, I'd rather companions don't talk much about past romances or who they find attractive if they are romanceable. It's always awkward when you are romancing someone and they are talking about how they are into someone who looks nothing like you. Or maybe I'm just a jealous person, haha.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 14, 2024 18:35:39 GMT
Good thing I am old curmudgeon Boomer and have zero clue what half these terms or phrases mean at all. I've learned a lot from these boards. Also from my students. They'd say something and I couldn't wait to get back to the staff room at break so I could check what it meant. This is why I don't feel like a Boomer.
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Post by Grog Muffins on Jun 14, 2024 18:36:32 GMT
They mentioned the companions will talk about previous relationships and preferences they have. But that is the thing, Lucanis might say the his ideal type of partner is a big rugged qunari man with lots of muscles, and that he is extremely vary of mages, but here comes a dainty elf woman and a mage to boot, that doesn't resemble any of the preferences that Lucanis has mentioned, yet she gets to score with Lucanis because she is the all powerful player and in her presence, companion's preferences mean nothing, zero, nada, nil. How is that not the most ultimate form of playersexuality? Hah! And at worst, these kinds of romances veer awfully close to resembling terrible erotic fiction about '' converting '' people's sexuality as long as they meet the right partner. I understand your point, I'm not trying to placate you, just give a bit more context to what they said when answering the question. Not sure if the session was recorded.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 14, 2024 18:36:42 GMT
I wonder what the spoilery mystical entity will be? A ghostly Sandal?
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 14, 2024 18:39:12 GMT
But that is the thing, Lucanis might say the his ideal type of partner is a big rugged qunari man with lots of muscles, and that he is extremely vary of mages, but here comes a dainty elf woman and a mage to boot, that doesn't resemble any of the preferences that Lucanis has mentioned, yet she gets to score with Lucanis because she is the all powerful player and in her presence, companion's preferences mean nothing, zero, nada, nil. How is that not the most ultimate form of playersexuality? Hah! And at worst, these kinds of romances veer awfully close to resembling terrible erotic fiction about '' converting '' people's sexuality as long as they meet the right partner. I understand your point, I'm not trying to placate you, just give a bit more context to what they said when answering the question. Not sure if the session was recorded. Yeah no problem, I've just been throwing daggers at everyone and anyone the past few weeks about this topic. Man.. the things I could've done if I put this energy into something useful..
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 14, 2024 18:39:17 GMT
2. I wonder if the entity is going to be June. There's a third statue that breaks in the gameplay reveal and June is credited as being the crafter of the bunch. Oh that would be interesting.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 14, 2024 18:40:20 GMT
I mean the Arishok was a rogue in the game files… Yes, but if Taash isn't a warrior, it means we have only Davrin as one. I doubt it's the case. Judging by th efac twe can onl ytake 2 companoin wit hus on missions in Veilguard I doub ttaking a mix o fall classes wi l lb necessar ylik ei thas been in the previous games. I think it looks lik ethey'v egon efor a similar approac hto ME2 onwards where the yditched th eneed fo ryo ufo rexampl et ohav eexpertis ein lockpicking and just have the classes represent the way you fight. as in do you figh tt ha bow a sword an dshield or do you use magic.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 14, 2024 18:41:46 GMT
Honestly, I'd rather companions don't talk much about past romances or who they find attractive if they are romanceable. It's always awkward when you are romancing someone and they are talking about how they are into someone who looks nothing like you. Or maybe I'm just a jealous person, haha. You are a possesive person. I would say. I have had a Boyfriend.who was still friends with his ex. A nightmare for you i guess.
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Post by trengilly on Jun 14, 2024 18:42:01 GMT
I can say from my perspective, that none of the male romances sans Halsin (which was barely a romance, rather a complete joke) were made with men in mind. And that's much of the issue with playersexuality for me, that I am 100% detached from the romance because I feel like some sort of an amorphous ungendered blob that's actually a stand-in for the opposite sex. You don't have to take into consideration homosexual sensibilities about romance and sex when you can just forgo everything because gender doesn't matter, and just write romances all the same regardless who you romance them as. And regardless whether it fits your worldview, gender and sexuality matters in relationship and sex, and BG3 didn't deliver on that feeling at all, causing me to feel completely detached. There's an intimacy in romances that defined sexualities give to me, like it truly matters that I am who I am, that I have the body that I do. And I like that. Ultimately when talking about playersexuality vs defined sexuality, it boils down to feelings of immersion, rather than factual quality of the writing. Playersexual companions can have great writing, some of the best even, but immersion matters as well, and different people will have different things that make them feel immersed in a fantasy world RPG. As a woman I know what it's like feeling like games are made for straight men. Even amazing games like Witcher 3 are all about the male fantasy, it's amusing. I understand what you mean about immersion. ME1 was the first game I played where I could pick female and have a romance tailored to a straight woman and that was amazing, blew my mind, very immersive. Helped that Kaidan was 100% my type in looks and personality. So I get it to some degree. Personally I just find pixel sex very unimmersive and funny looking so I just laugh through them. So even if a romance is tailored to my preference I feel detached anyway. Might have to do with me not being a very sexual person and taking forever to warm up to people so the typical videogame dating format is just jarring to me. The worst part is the flirting, it's SO cringe to me in 90% of the romances I played. It's so ridiculously bad I can't take any of it seriously. I assume others have a different reaction... I do understand that men and women have different relationship dynamics and if done right that can be extra immersive and you do miss out on that if you do playersexual. I understand that. It's very much a me thing that it's a detail I don't much care about personally. The ability to choose any person is way more important to me than this extra level of immersion I MIGHT get if it's presented in a way that appeals to me. The thing is it's also not just the sex part but the entire romance that I can almost never relate to. There's a level of cheesiness to almost all romances in any game that just makes me cringe through it all. So that's why it doesn't matter to me. I have an interest in romance in a game for the extra dialogue and emotion between these characters and that's usually it. It's so rare for me to relate to a romance on a personal level that I don't even expect it anymore. Really, Kaidan was maybe the only one that was special to me. Pretty much every other one I tried while I liked them sometimes I am detached. I always just play a character romancing another character. It's never how I would behave so there is zero immersion for me. If that makes sense? RPGs are not personal fantasies of mine as a result. I don't self insert. I would never do most of the stuff in a videogame, I wouldn't behave like that in a romance, so trying to make this about me ruins the immersion anyway. I do usually play female and romance a guy because that's most natural for me but it's usually not my cup of tea what I get. It's a very me problem. So I understand your perspective. Playersexual for you is basically how I feel all the time. Makes sense you would want something better! LOL People are misrepresenting what Gaider said in his tweet. He was specifically discussing Romanceable characters VS not-romanceable. He wasn't talking about gender/orientation/etc. He was pointing out that having a character be a romance option limits how that character can be written . . but not that its bad, just limiting. A good example is Gale. Gale is great as written. However if you remove the romance option from Gale you could then write his story to be much more focus on his relationship with Mystra. You can do things you couldn't do if he was romanceable. Or you could write a story where two of the companions are already in a relationship with each other and not available for the main character to get involved with (Jaheira and Khalid in Baldur's Gate 1 for example). Obviously this can also extend to 'preferences' . . . Solas only romancing Elves. Or you could have a story where a Mage would only romance another Mage . . . it could be a part of their character and story. There is nothing wrong with having all companions be romanceable by everyone . . . it just limits you storytelling options in some ways.
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Post by sloth on Jun 14, 2024 18:43:31 GMT
About companions/important npc:- Who you left in the fade in DA:I has no importance in DA:V, maybe in the future. well, ok... but how are they going to address the character who went to Weisshaupt? we are also going there... and btw, awesome job with the list!
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 14, 2024 18:43:36 GMT
Sebastian was straight, aren't he? Yes, although the relationship was so chaste you could almost say he was ace. He did have a thing for Bethany though if she was alive and you weren't interested. She was into him too.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 14, 2024 18:43:38 GMT
2. I wonder if the entity is going to be June. There's a third statue that breaks in the gameplay reveal and June is credited as being the crafter of the bunch. Oh that would be interesting. What if June is the mysterious crafter they mentioned...
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Post by Grog Muffins on Jun 14, 2024 18:44:28 GMT
Oh and I guess the most important thing: mabari live as long as you want so Barkspawn is curled up in front of a fire somewhere, eating a nice treat, or jumping around covered in the blood of his enemies. He's fine and having the time of his life!
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Post by sloth on Jun 14, 2024 18:46:32 GMT
- You will be able to define your background and what it meant to you. great! hope it means that we can adjust our background through dialogues to something like "a grey warden who didn't want to become one" or a "crow that wanted to leave the faction" or things like that!
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Post by Gileadan on Jun 14, 2024 18:47:12 GMT
Ah, the story's main theme is regret?
Now I know what to compare it to! Will we get a snarky hovering skull? A chaste succubus lady who sounds like Femshep? A suit of armour that sounds like Captain Anderson? A grizzled guy occasionally saying "Balance in all things"? A veritable Fortress of Regret?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 14, 2024 18:47:24 GMT
Sebastian was straight, aren't he? Yes, although the relationship was so chaste you could almost say he was ace. He did have a thing for Bethany though if she was alive and you weren't interested. She was into him too. No, you couldn’t. He has dialogue with characters like Isabela where it is clear he isn’t ace but took a vow of chastity after joining the Chantry. That whole romance was insulting since half of it was just some companions making fun of it “You aren’t having sex? Is that really a relationship?” with Femhawke being super horny about him.
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