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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jul 25, 2024 5:18:50 GMT
interesting on the musical guest. Singer who did Maryden's songs perhaps?
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Jul 25, 2024 5:19:14 GMT
Omg that blade is awesome. I want one! I'm really curious to see what in-game use it'll have. I need no dagger for I am magic incarnate! 👊 (… it is kinda pretty, though) xD
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jul 25, 2024 5:26:12 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a blade to kill Solas. I have no doubt it'll be important in the end-game, but since it looks like we get it very early, I wonder what regular use we might get out it. It'll be like the Ghostbusters back pack things. We use it to put the Evanuris back. (Assuming more than just the two seen in the gameplay trailer work their way free).
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 25, 2024 6:49:33 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a blade to kill Solas. I have no doubt it'll be important in the end-game, but since it looks like we get it very early, I wonder what regular use we might get out it. I still think it's funny that the 2020 trailer emphasised the new hero has "no magic hand" as though this time round we were just having our own natural abilities and then they give us a fancy blade, presumably made of pure lyrium. Okay, so it's not actually part of us but it is something you don't see every day.
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Post by sageoflife on Jul 25, 2024 7:19:23 GMT
I have no doubt it'll be important in the end-game, but since it looks like we get it very early, I wonder what regular use we might get out it. I still think it's funny that the 2020 trailer emphasised the new hero has "no magic hand" as though this time round we were just having our own natural abilities and then they give us a fancy blade, presumably made of pure lyrium. Okay, so it's not actually part of us but it is something you don't see every day. It's consistent with the other protagonists though. Mages aside, none of them started with their unique abilities.
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Post by saandrig on Jul 25, 2024 7:45:27 GMT
It's consistent with the other protagonists though. Mages aside, none of them started with their unique abilities. Hawke started with the unique ability to get in the center of every big mess in a 100 mile radius.
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Post by illuminated11 on Jul 25, 2024 8:08:40 GMT
I have no doubt it'll be important in the end-game, but since it looks like we get it very early, I wonder what regular use we might get out it. I still think it's funny that the 2020 trailer emphasised the new hero has "no magic hand" as though this time round we were just having our own natural abilities and then they give us a fancy blade, presumably made of pure lyrium. Okay, so it's not actually part of us but it is something you don't see every day. So from what I’ve come to understand listening to people that have already played the game, they’re puzzled by the emphasis on ‘not being special.’ Clearly there’s a failure of communication on some level, in that regard. At the same time, a big part of Inquisition and the glowing hand was how it tied into the Inquisitor as a status symbol, an idea, moving outside the hierarchy of the Chantry, called by many the Herald of Andraste. While the blade and the ties to Solas will be important on a plot level, it probably won’t have the same large scale cultural and theological significance.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 25, 2024 8:14:14 GMT
It's consistent with the other protagonists though. Mages aside, none of them started with their unique abilities. That's true, which is why it was strange how they emphasised this fact. Likely it was because of the speculation as to whether the Inquisitor would be returning or not, hence the emphasis on "time for a new hero" and "no magic hand", even though we had already lost it. None of the other protagonists really had much in the way of a unique ability. The Warden had the ability to slay the Arch-demon permanently but they weren't the only one able to do this. Hawke had nothing unique except being the offspring of Malcolm Hawke so had the connection with Corypheus' prison (which wasn't even part of the main game). It is certainly a new development to be given an item that is both unique and yet not permanently part of our body. Of course, it is possible that we are the only one who can use it, perhaps owing to our connection with a certain person.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 25, 2024 8:16:54 GMT
Damn now I wish I was there. Come on release date. I hope many people go there and showing some picture and their experience. Because even when i wanted from europe to the US isn't a small trip.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 25, 2024 8:19:34 GMT
interesting on the musical guest. Hans Zimmer / Lorne Balfe? Tavern singer? that'd be my guest but then the real question is are we getting a trailer with it like DAIs cello trailer?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 25, 2024 8:39:03 GMT
So from what I’ve come to understand listening to people that have already played the game, they’re puzzled by the emphasis on ‘not being special. Well obviously we are "special" in some way or we wouldn't be leading the Veilguard. That's the bit I'm interested to see how they explain. May be it will simply be because of the connection we have with the Fade but it seems like we were recruited by Varric and Harding with that intent even before the later events of the prologue. What made us attract their attention (apart from dropping a chandelier on a bunch of Venatori)? Why were we in Minrathous? What did they intend to be our original role? Previous heroes had a reason they assumed leadership. The Warden stepped up when Alistair wouldn't/couldn't as they were the last two Wardens in Ferelden but this was an established organisation with treaties we could call upon to gain the assistance of others. Hawke was de facto head of their family and then gathered a group of friends/allies around them, finally acquiring Champion status for dealing with the threat of the Arishok. The Inquisitor initially was paid deference because of their magic hand which was thought to come from Andraste and then, having showed a degree of leadership skills in Act 1 and having an association with the main religion of southern Thedas, was promoted to head of the organisation by the original founders (who had the authority of the dead Divine to authorise their actions until a new one was elected). What puzzles me is that if the Veilguard was needed to counter Solas, why wait 8 years before establishing it? Why was Rook recruited? What was their role initially? Why did the others seem to look to Rook to decide upon a course of action? Why did Varric tell Rook to look after the others when he walked away? I'm assuming that part of a backstory given in the CC will explain why we came to the attention of Varric and Harding beyond simply one fight we were involved in. So may be more like Shepard in ME1, where we already had a reputation and that was why we were being promoted to a Spectre at the beginning of the game. Perhaps we were in the inn because they had invited us there.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Jul 25, 2024 9:04:00 GMT
Apparently, Egghead's ritual took 8 years to complete, evidently he was in no rush, lol. However, if Varric's whole plan consisted of trying to talk sense into Solas, he/they did take their sweet time. Talk about being proactive, this lot...
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Post by colfoley on Jul 25, 2024 9:25:47 GMT
Apparently, Egghead's ritual took 8 years to complete, evidently he was in no rush, lol. However, if Varric's whole plan consisted of trying to talk sense into Solas, he/they did take their sweet time. Talk about being proactive, this lot... had to find him first.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jul 25, 2024 9:49:01 GMT
I'm my mind the only "special" PC we've had so far is the Inquisitor and Shepard - the Warden was a capable but average person who ended up forced by circumstances to take the lead, and Hawke was a capable but extremely unlucky person who, again, was forced by circumstances to lead. The Inky had a magic hand that was literally unique in what it could do, and Shepard got the beacon visions, cypher, and was augmented in a way that had never been done before.
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Post by illuminated11 on Jul 25, 2024 9:50:42 GMT
What puzzles me is that if the Veilguard was needed to counter Solas, why wait 8 years before establishing it? Why was Rook recruited? What was their role initially? Why did the others seem to look to Rook to decide upon a course of action? Why did Varric tell Rook to look after the others when he walked away? I'm assuming that part of a backstory given in the CC will explain why we came to the attention of Varric and Harding beyond simply one fight we were involved in. So may be more like Shepard in ME1, where we already had a reputation and that was why we were being promoted to a Spectre at the beginning of the game. Perhaps we were in the inn because they had invited us there. I’m wondering about a lot of these questions as well. Like it makes sense for a Shadow Dragon Rook to be in Minrathous, but why would say a Mourn Watcher be there? Did Varric send them a letter to rendezvous? Has there maybe been contact between what remains of the Inquisition and the other factions, and one potential candidate gets sent for an ‘interview’ before everything goes wrong? I could definitely see the Shepard style backstory being utilized regardless.
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Post by saandrig on Jul 25, 2024 9:53:11 GMT
I'm my mind the only "special" PC we've had so far is the Inquisitor and Shepard - the Warden was a capable but average person who ended up forced by circumstances to take the lead, and Hawke was a capable but extremely unlucky person who, again, was forced by circumstances to lead. The Inky had a magic hand that was literally unique in what it could do, and Shepard got the BB eacon visions, cypher, and was augmented in a way that had never been done before. Bhaalspawn, Spirit Monk, Revan...
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 25, 2024 10:09:55 GMT
Apparently, Egghead's ritual took 8 years to complete, evidently he was in no rush, lol. However, if Varric's whole plan consisted of trying to talk sense into Solas, he/they did take their sweet time. Talk about being proactive, this lot... had to find him first. Yeah like, Solas was travelling trough Eluvians all this time.
Varric had to travel the regular way and look for clues across countries. He could and was just short of catching Solas, but it didn't matter since Solas got inside Eluvian and either be at the Lighhouse or on another side of the continent.
Likely theory is that Inquisitor was doing the same, going trough same motions are Varric, just sticking to Southern Thedas. He/she could have just as easily been close to catching Solas, but Varric was "lucky" to do so in Minrathous.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 25, 2024 10:27:56 GMT
You mean other that cutting open the veil? Hmm.. We seem to get around by Eluvians, so I figured it must have some other use. maybe it's the weapon w euse to kill th eEvanuri sand Solas.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 25, 2024 10:49:40 GMT
Damn now I wish I was there. Come on release date. I hope many people go there and showing some picture and their experience. Because even when i wanted from europe to the US isn't a small trip.
Not onl ytha tit's the other side of Amreicatoo from Europe given San Diego i son the Westren side of hte US. As it's the area Alo yis in durin gthe Horizon Forbidden West story
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 25, 2024 10:54:53 GMT
I'm my mind the only "special" PC we've had so far is the Inquisitor and Shepard - the Warden was a capable but average person who ended up forced by circumstances to take the lead, and Hawke was a capable but extremely unlucky person who, again, was forced by circumstances to lead. The Inky had a magic hand that was literally unique in what it could do, and Shepard got the BB eacon visions, cypher, and was augmented in a way that had never been done before. I wouldn't exactly cal lShepard special they jus thad a talen tfo rbein ggood a twha tthey did which was why th ecouncil gave them Spectre status. The Inquisitor was really the only one with a uniqu eand specia lability thanks t othe mark.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 25, 2024 11:04:37 GMT
I have no doubt it'll be important in the end-game, but since it looks like we get it very early, I wonder what regular use we might get out it. It'll be like the Ghostbusters back pack things. We use it to put the Evanuris back. (Assuming more than just the two seen in the gameplay trailer work their way free). If there's something strange in the neighborhood, who ya gonna call, SOLASBUSTERS.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 25, 2024 11:07:42 GMT
Fingers crossed we get release date today.
Veilguard artbook is being promoted there, so it would make sense for it to get a release date. Inquisition artbook was released on the day of game release. As well this stuff has heavy spoilers, so releasing the artbook before game makes no sense. Has to be the day of game release or later.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Jul 25, 2024 11:10:01 GMT
I'm my mind the only "special" PC we've had so far is the Inquisitor and Shepard - the Warden was a capable but average person who ended up forced by circumstances to take the lead, and Hawke was a capable but extremely unlucky person who, again, was forced by circumstances to lead. The Inky had a magic hand that was literally unique in what it could do, and Shepard got the BB eacon visions, cypher, and was augmented in a way that had never been done before. Bhaalspawn, Spirit Monk, Revan... Yeah, BioWare used to do this a lot more. The Neverwinter protagonists are complete randos, but other than that their earlier games are wall-to-wall chosen ones.
I suspect that Rook is going to be like the Inquisitor and Shepard - someone who becomes special because they're in the right place at the right time, not because they were born to it. All the Inquisitor did was open a door and touch a strange ball, there's nothing inherently special about them. Shepard is a highly trained soldier and becoming the first human Spectre is certainly impressive but other people could do what they do if not for the beacon. (The DAO protagonist also becomes special by becoming a Warden, but technically speaking they're not any more special than Alistair. Arguably less unless they're dwarf royalty.)
Really the lesson here is that BioWare protagonists should stop touching random stuff. Or maybe they should touch more random stuff, since I guess that's how the world keeps getting saved?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 25, 2024 11:17:28 GMT
Yeah like, Solas was travelling trough Eluvians all this time.
Varric had to travel the regular way and look for clues across countries. He could and was just short of catching Solas, but it didn't matter since Solas got inside Eluvian and either be at the Lighhouse or on another side of the continent.
Likely theory is that Inquisitor was doing the same, going trough same motions are Varric, just sticking to Southern Thedas. He/she could have just as easily been close to catching Solas, but Varric was "lucky" to do so in Minrathous. Yeah h ewould have been hard to track as w egot a taste o fthat ourselves in Trespasser as I don' tthin kwe or ou rteam really knew where w ewere half the time going through the eluvians there. I think it'll jus tb euseful t ohav epeople moer familiar with the areas as I remembe rwhen Rook and co stepped ou tof that eluvian Neve commented sh erecognised the place as Arlathan forest whic his definitel ynot anywhere tha tVarric or Hardin gwould have recognised. An elf or Veiljumper might hav erecognised it bu tunless you ventuer outside Minrathous from time t otim eit's unloikel yanyomne would.
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