sjsharp2010
N7
Go Team!
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 12,250 Likes: 20,229
inherit
2309
0
Sept 22, 2024 11:51:59 GMT
20,229
sjsharp2010
Go Team!
12,250
December 2016
sjsharp2010
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 9, 2024 12:09:45 GMT
Knights of the Old Republic at the very least was turn based. Didn't play them but also think the first two BG games and Neverwinter Knights. KOTOR was similar to BG1-2. Attacks/skills were turn based, but movement was not. You could also cancel turns, etc. It also wasn't really a "turn", but certain time had to pass before another action could be fired up - which made everyone doing stuff at the same time and not in "turns" like BG3 for example. It was more RTWP than turn based. Maybe not but it is th ecloses tBioware has com eto them I agreethat turnbased games can be fun I play a few myself as I enjoy Xcom and Midnight Suns in particular for example. But Biowaer don' tmake thos e sorts o fgame. I fyou'e rinterested in turn based gamesthese days you'er better of flooking at roguelikes like Slay the Spier or the Capes game that got released not long ago. I haven' tplayed the Capes game yet thou hI d ohave i tbu tthat's mainlty because as o fyet I haven' thad time. When I come up for air afte rplaying Veilguard I ma ygiv ei ta go bu twe'll see as I' d lik eto fin dtim et ofinish m ycurrent Midnight Suns save and pla ytha tso wil l probabl ydo that once I'v edone m yfirs trun o fVeilguard Bu tyea hI can see ME DA FC2 5an dmy turn based games getting a big wor kout over the winter Dragon Age an dFC2 5in particular.
|
|
saandrig
N5
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 3,640 Likes: 7,584
inherit
2719
0
Sept 22, 2024 8:09:52 GMT
7,584
saandrig
3,640
January 2017
saandrig
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by saandrig on Aug 9, 2024 12:24:33 GMT
Everyone's talking about purple, but what about beige? In DA I usually end up running around in a mostly bloody color.
|
|
sjsharp2010
N7
Go Team!
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 12,250 Likes: 20,229
inherit
2309
0
Sept 22, 2024 11:51:59 GMT
20,229
sjsharp2010
Go Team!
12,250
December 2016
sjsharp2010
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 9, 2024 13:53:30 GMT
Everyone's talking about purple, but what about beige? In DA I usually end up running around in a mostly bloody color. I think mos to fus do afte rwe've killed a fwe htings I d oin Origins and DA2 as ewll.
|
|
githcheater
N3
Games: Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
Posts: 991 Likes: 1,191
inherit
959
0
Sept 22, 2024 3:33:19 GMT
1,191
githcheater
991
Aug 13, 2016 20:29:15 GMT
August 2016
githcheater
Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by githcheater on Aug 9, 2024 13:53:48 GMT
Still, I am very disappointed knowing that BG3 like games are in the far distant future (maybe) now that Bioware gone full action mode. What are BG3 like games? Bioware never does TB, or do i miss a game?
For more recent games, there are the two Divinity Original Sin games plus BG3 (Larian), the two Pathfinder games (Owlcat), and the two Pillars of Eternity games (Obsidian), but perhaps no recent turn based (or pause) AAA games with outstanding graphics and 3rd person perspective. DAI inquisition was the last of these AAA pause or turn based RPGs I think. Maybe there are other AA games with pause or turn based combat, but I cannot recall any. It will probably be three or more years before a new quality turn-based (or pause) AA RPG is released.
|
|
sjsharp2010
N7
Go Team!
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 12,250 Likes: 20,229
inherit
2309
0
Sept 22, 2024 11:51:59 GMT
20,229
sjsharp2010
Go Team!
12,250
December 2016
sjsharp2010
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 9, 2024 14:29:05 GMT
What are BG3 like games? Bioware never does TB, or do i miss a game?
For more recent games, there are the two Divinity Original Sin games plus BG3 (Larian), the two Pathfinder games (Owlcat), and the two Pillars of Eternity games (Obsidian), but perhaps no recent turn based (or pause) AAA games with outstanding graphics and 3rd person perspective. DAI inquisition was the last of these AAA pause or turn based RPGs I think. Maybe there are other AA games with pause or turn based combat, but I cannot recall any. It will probably be three or more years before a new quality turn-based (or pause) AA RPG is released. I think i tdepends on whethe ryou lik erogulikes a they'e called o rnot as there are quite a fw esmall budge ttype ones lik eSlay the Spire or Capes which can be fun to play. I haven' tplayed Capes yet butt I d ohav eit it' sjuas tstuc kin m ybacklog until I can fin dthe time. I have played Sla yth eSpier thou hand that's a lo tof fun. Obvoiusly as I have said if you prefer somethin gwith a bi tmoe rpolis hthen ther is Xcom and Midnight Suns but AAA turn based games are a rare breed. The ydo exist it's more that there's no tmany of them Midnight Suns Xcom
|
|
Hrungr
Twitter Guru
ღ N-Special
More coffee...? More coffee.
Staff Mini-Profile Theme: Hrungr
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: Hrungr
Prime Posts: 18,258
Prime Likes: 65,767
Posts: 30,743 Likes: 111,786
inherit
ღ N-Special
151
0
111,786
Hrungr
More coffee...? More coffee.
30,743
August 2016
hrungr
Hrungr
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Hrungr
18,258
65,767
|
Post by Hrungr on Aug 9, 2024 15:03:00 GMT
Regarding combat, after looking closely at it, we may have the same number of abilities (potentially a little less or more), they've just spread them out differently. 5 Activated Abilites (3 + Rune + Ult), then the abilities that are tied to your moves: eg. Twin Fangs = Jump + Attack, Reflect Damage on Parry, then things like Dodge + Attack, Parry + Riposte. Potentially abilities tied into your Strong & Light attacks?, etc. Removing one party member does sting, though... (spoilers?) ... in the leak the mention missions assign you a relevant 3rd party member (uncontrolled NPC). Which I'm guessing would be people like your Inky, Agents, returning favorites, and so on. Amen 🙏 What is this "Rune" bull* I keep hearing, though? I want no damn rune, I could use the slot for another spell 😩 From the Q&A: There’s a type of item you can get that functions like abilities, they’re typically like buffs and enhancements, in the form of runes, so you’ll control that for Rook and/or the team from the wheel.
|
|
inherit
12699
0
Member is Online
Sept 22, 2024 13:22:02 GMT
136
The Pluto Lounge
115
Jun 26, 2024 19:30:42 GMT
June 2024
theplutolounge
|
Post by The Pluto Lounge on Aug 9, 2024 15:17:52 GMT
So runes are now like Infinity Stones from Marvel vs Capcom?
|
|
inherit
277
0
10,065
QuizzyBunny
No 1 bunny giffer
2,645
August 2016
theycallmebunny
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
InquisitorBunny
430
1114
|
Post by QuizzyBunny on Aug 9, 2024 15:22:28 GMT
I feel like such a grouch, my thought to that was instinctively "if it's more or less just another ability slot then why not just give me another ability slot?". xD
My guess is that the runes have some kind of limitation abilities don't. On the other hand, if we are luckier you can change your runes on the fly, so then at least you'd have one ability you can change around a bit during a mission.
|
|
inherit
∯ Oh Loredy...
455
0
Sept 22, 2024 12:48:06 GMT
29,896
gervaise21
12,602
August 2016
gervaise21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
|
Post by gervaise21 on Aug 9, 2024 17:44:56 GMT
Knights of the Old Republic at the very least was turn based. I don't remember it like that. From what I recall the combat was more similar to Mass Effect or Neverwinter Nights 2 than remotely turn based. Didn't play them but also think the first two BG games and Neverwinter Knights. You could stop the action and issue orders but it wasn't actually turn based like I saw in the game play demo for BG3. I think they said that technically the program was running a sort of turn based system in the background but you didn't experience that on screen and it just meant that there might be a delay between, say, you casting a spell and then being able to take some other action, which actually was very similar to DAO. Nor did you actually see the dice rolls on screen but again this just occurred in the background program. For a direct comparison with BG3 you'd need to play Pillars of Eternity or the much earlier Pools of Radiance and Temple of Elemental Evil (both the latter two based on D&D Forgotten Realms) but these weren't Bioware games. They were certainly turn based but I'm pretty sure you didn't actually see your dice rolls on screen.
|
|
inherit
∯ Oh Loredy...
455
0
Sept 22, 2024 12:48:06 GMT
29,896
gervaise21
12,602
August 2016
gervaise21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
|
Post by gervaise21 on Aug 9, 2024 17:58:56 GMT
What are BG3 like games? Bioware never does TB, or do i miss a game? See my above post. You are quite correct, Bioware never did turn based games in the way that BG3 is set up. There were games back in the early 2000s that were but from different studios. Whilst I bought the games because of the fantasy setting, I never really enjoyed the turn based set up and they were never a patch on the Bioware games. By contrast DAO was very much like those earlier Bioware games in the way it played out. It was DA2 and DAI where they changed the style of game play to more action orientated. The big difference with their earlier games was in the number of party members. In BG and BG2 we had six party members including the PC, which was great, so I was rather disappointed when DAO reduced it to four. Now we are down to three. The focus does seem to be on our PC with the other two just supporting them, rather than managing a team where everyone was needed and my PC might be the least useful member of the group in some fights, particularly as I had to avoid dying or it was game over. Funnily enough that seems to have returned in DAV or so I assume since they include a "cannot die" setting.
|
|
Hrungr
Twitter Guru
ღ N-Special
More coffee...? More coffee.
Staff Mini-Profile Theme: Hrungr
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: Hrungr
Prime Posts: 18,258
Prime Likes: 65,767
Posts: 30,743 Likes: 111,786
inherit
ღ N-Special
151
0
111,786
Hrungr
More coffee...? More coffee.
30,743
August 2016
hrungr
Hrungr
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Hrungr
18,258
65,767
|
Post by Hrungr on Aug 9, 2024 18:07:13 GMT
John Epler is very tired @eplerjc.bsky.socialthe wildest thing about being creative director is that about once every two weeks someone says 'hey this bizarre thing here is part of your job can you do it' and it is a thing that you KNEW someone did but you never thought about which someone congratulations, you are that someone - Someone should have read the fine print on the job description.
|
|
jennica
N3
Party like a krogan
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 421 Likes: 906
Member is Online
inherit
6523
0
Member is Online
Sept 22, 2024 13:22:06 GMT
906
jennica
Party like a krogan
421
Mar 29, 2017 10:24:07 GMT
March 2017
jennica
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by jennica on Aug 9, 2024 18:32:54 GMT
Combat in DA2 is more or less the same as DAO. It's definitely faster, has flashier animations and it doesn't have tactical camera, but i never felt that it was in action mode. It even had better tactics than DAO.
For me it is like that:
ARPG - DA2 - DAI - DAO - BG1-2 - - - BG3
Unless i misunderstand what you're saying here but i'm curious why you think that DA2 is closer to ARPG than DAI. DAI didn't even have an auto attack (at least on PC), which is pretty common for action games.
|
|
inherit
1033
0
Sept 22, 2024 11:30:39 GMT
34,701
colfoley
18,208
Aug 17, 2016 10:19:37 GMT
August 2016
colfoley
|
Post by colfoley on Aug 9, 2024 19:10:06 GMT
Knights of the Old Republic at the very least was turn based. I don't remember it like that. From what I recall the combat was more similar to Mass Effect or Neverwinter Nights 2 than remotely turn based. Didn't play them but also think the first two BG games and Neverwinter Knights. You could stop the action and issue orders but it wasn't actually turn based like I saw in the game play demo for BG3. I think they said that technically the program was running a sort of turn based system in the background but you didn't experience that on screen and it just meant that there might be a delay between, say, you casting a spell and then being able to take some other action, which actually was very similar to DAO. Nor did you actually see the dice rolls on screen but again this just occurred in the background program. For a direct comparison with BG3 you'd need to play Pillars of Eternity or the much earlier Pools of Radiance and Temple of Elemental Evil (both the latter two based on D&D Forgotten Realms) but these weren't Bioware games. They were certainly turn based but I'm pretty sure you didn't actually see your dice rolls on screen. see I remember KOTOR being turn based from what I saw of it but this is really fascinating if you're right. Cause if you are means people are pining for something Bioware never was in the first place.
|
|
inherit
12699
0
Member is Online
Sept 22, 2024 13:22:02 GMT
136
The Pluto Lounge
115
Jun 26, 2024 19:30:42 GMT
June 2024
theplutolounge
|
Post by The Pluto Lounge on Aug 9, 2024 19:26:47 GMT
No, KOTOR was turn based. Its one of the reason Bioware was so special back then, because their turn-based combat was so unique. Its like you queue up your attacks/abilities, then it's gets played back as turn based.
|
|
jennica
N3
Party like a krogan
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 421 Likes: 906
Member is Online
inherit
6523
0
Member is Online
Sept 22, 2024 13:22:06 GMT
906
jennica
Party like a krogan
421
Mar 29, 2017 10:24:07 GMT
March 2017
jennica
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by jennica on Aug 9, 2024 19:31:53 GMT
No, KOTOR was turn based. Its one of the reason Bioware was so special back then, because their turn-based combat was so unique. Its like you queue up your attacks/abilities, then it's gets played back as turn based. Kotor was real time with pause, so not exactely turn based.
|
|
inherit
∯ Oh Loredy...
455
0
Sept 22, 2024 12:48:06 GMT
29,896
gervaise21
12,602
August 2016
gervaise21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
|
Post by gervaise21 on Aug 9, 2024 19:48:57 GMT
Kotor was real time with pause, so not exactely turn based. Thank you, I didn't think my memory was that off. So, just to clarify, I regard turn based as you pause, issue orders to each of your party and then when you unpause, each person carries out their move whilst the opposition do nothing. Then the opposition do the same and you cannot move whilst they do so. This is not how Bioware games worked. You paused and issued orders but effectively the other side were doing the same, so when you unpaused everyone appeared to act at the same time. Obviously if one of the opposition mages did Time Stop or something similar, then my side appeared motionless whilst they moved but that was the nature of the spell, not the game play. Also, if I targeted their mage and got off my magic missiles (which was a quick fire spell) it was possible to disrupt their casting so they lost their more powerful spell because it took longer to cast than mine did, so it might look as though I had gone first but I had just used the most effective spell to counter them. So it wasn't pure turn based but not completely real time either, rather a combination of the two, which suited me just fine. Now I don't know if DAO was meant to be the same as their earlier games but it felt the same, whereas DA2 didn't. That I assume is the reason some people are nostalgic for DAO and earlier Bioware games and think they have moved away from that system for the worse. I have adapted to the new way of doing things and, to be honest, I'm not sure how much I would enjoy BG3 turn based style, so I certainly wouldn't want Bioware to do the same. Incidentally I hated the tactical camera in DAI and never used it.
|
|
inherit
12404
0
Sept 22, 2024 4:20:55 GMT
261
celestielf
79
Jan 30, 2023 18:24:05 GMT
January 2023
celestielf
|
Post by celestielf on Aug 9, 2024 19:49:56 GMT
I just played KotoR 1 and 2 earlier this year and they were both RTWP. Maybe there's a turn based mod or something, but it isn't a feature of the base game.
What I've noticed with RTWP is that you can kind of get into the rhythm of the engine's turns, so your pauses line up with them. Maybe it feels like turn based in that regard.
Regardless, I don't really care that Veilguard doesn't have RTWP or turn based. From what Kala and Ghil Dirthalen said in their live chat video, the combat sounds fun to me. Any type of combat system can be fun if it's done well, and I adapt to new systems all the time.
|
|
luketrevelyan
N4
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 1,695 Likes: 5,890
inherit
328
0
5,890
luketrevelyan
1,695
August 2016
luketrevelyan
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by luketrevelyan on Aug 9, 2024 19:55:00 GMT
Kotor isn't strictly turn based but you feel the "turns" if you queue up actions as there is an amount of time you wait for each action. But you can break free of that and move around and change your mind what you want to do. I quite enjoy the combat myself in that game as the force powers are a lot of fun and you don't have to rely at all on reflexes.
|
|
inherit
12699
0
Member is Online
Sept 22, 2024 13:22:02 GMT
136
The Pluto Lounge
115
Jun 26, 2024 19:30:42 GMT
June 2024
theplutolounge
|
Post by The Pluto Lounge on Aug 9, 2024 19:57:23 GMT
No, KOTOR was turn based. Its one of the reason Bioware was so special back then, because their turn-based combat was so unique. Its like you queue up your attacks/abilities, then it's gets played back as turn based. Kotor was real time with pause, so not exactely turn based. It wasn't exactly real time either. Just like in a old school JRPG, if it takes you too long to select your ability you miss your turn. Or in KOTOR, it's probably better to say you missed the round. However, your actions still get queued into a round.
|
|
Hrungr
Twitter Guru
ღ N-Special
More coffee...? More coffee.
Staff Mini-Profile Theme: Hrungr
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: Hrungr
Prime Posts: 18,258
Prime Likes: 65,767
Posts: 30,743 Likes: 111,786
inherit
ღ N-Special
151
0
111,786
Hrungr
More coffee...? More coffee.
30,743
August 2016
hrungr
Hrungr
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Hrungr
18,258
65,767
|
Post by Hrungr on Aug 9, 2024 19:58:54 GMT
|
|
inherit
1033
0
Sept 22, 2024 11:30:39 GMT
34,701
colfoley
18,208
Aug 17, 2016 10:19:37 GMT
August 2016
colfoley
|
Post by colfoley on Aug 9, 2024 20:02:55 GMT
I just played KotoR 1 and 2 earlier this year and they were both RTWP. Maybe there's a turn based mod or something, but it isn't a feature of the base game. What I've noticed with RTWP is that you can kind of get into the rhythm of the engine's turns, so your pauses line up with them. Maybe it feels like turn based in that regard. Regardless, I don't really care that Veilguard doesn't have RTWP or turn based. From what Kala and Ghil Dirthalen said in their live chat video, the combat sounds fun to me. Any type of combat system can be fun if it's done well, and I adapt to new systems all the time. yeah precisely. Granted I haven't met a turn based system I've liked but theoretically it is possible.
|
|
jennica
N3
Party like a krogan
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 421 Likes: 906
Member is Online
inherit
6523
0
Member is Online
Sept 22, 2024 13:22:06 GMT
906
jennica
Party like a krogan
421
Mar 29, 2017 10:24:07 GMT
March 2017
jennica
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by jennica on Aug 9, 2024 20:05:56 GMT
Kotor was real time with pause, so not exactely turn based. It wasn't exactly real time either. Just like in a old school JRPG, if it takes you too long to select your ability you miss your turn. Or in KOTOR, it's probably better to say you missed the round. However, your actions still get queued into a round. As i said it was real time with pause, which is a hybrid combat system. it's not quite turn based, but also not quite real time. I mean, over the years i saw a lot of people who likes turn based games, also think that RTWP is an affront to humanity and worst thing ever existed lol.
|
|
jennica
N3
Party like a krogan
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 421 Likes: 906
Member is Online
inherit
6523
0
Member is Online
Sept 22, 2024 13:22:06 GMT
906
jennica
Party like a krogan
421
Mar 29, 2017 10:24:07 GMT
March 2017
jennica
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by jennica on Aug 9, 2024 20:10:38 GMT
I have adapted to the new way of doing things and, to be honest, I'm not sure how much I would enjoy BG3 turn based style, so I certainly wouldn't want Bioware to do the same. I take it you didn't play BG3? I ask because I've seen more people who like turn based combat than real time with pause, so honestly maybe you would like BG3 style combat better. I'd say that BG3 is more accessible than DAO or DA2, once you learn the basics.
|
|
inherit
12699
0
Member is Online
Sept 22, 2024 13:22:02 GMT
136
The Pluto Lounge
115
Jun 26, 2024 19:30:42 GMT
June 2024
theplutolounge
|
Post by The Pluto Lounge on Aug 9, 2024 20:20:26 GMT
It wasn't exactly real time either. Just like in a old school JRPG, if it takes you too long to select your ability you miss your turn. Or in KOTOR, it's probably better to say you missed the round. However, your actions still get queued into a round. As i said it was real time with pause, which is a hybrid combat system. it's not quite turn based, but also not quite real time. I mean, over the years i saw a lot of people who likes turn based games, also think that RTWP is an affront to humanity and worst thing ever existed lol. Maybe I'm wrong on this one, but I don't see it as real time with pause. How can it be real time when your actions are queued? Origins is RTWP, and when you press an ability it does it immediately, or queued it if your in the middle of an animation. Edit// this is from the wiki Combat is round-based; time is divided into discrete rounds, and combatants attack and react simultaneously, although these actions are presented sequentially on-screen. The number of actions a combatant may perform each round is limited. While each round's duration is a fixed short interval of real time, the player can configure the combat system to pause at specific events or the end of each round, or set the combat system to never automatically pause, giving the illusion of real-time combat. Combat actions are calculated using Dungeons & Dragons rules, particularly the d20 System.[2] While these are not displayed directly on the screen, the full breakdown for each action (including die rolls and modifiers) is accessible from a menu.
|
|
Ice-Quinn
N3
"Begone, spirit! I will not play your games."
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 564 Likes: 1,373
inherit
12687
0
Sept 22, 2024 8:20:34 GMT
1,373
Ice-Quinn
"Begone, spirit! I will not play your games."
564
Jun 15, 2024 22:26:22 GMT
June 2024
icequinn
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by Ice-Quinn on Aug 9, 2024 20:25:05 GMT
Yeah, at least give us the option to switch the rune slot for an ability of our choice.
In the past, features like that which sound good on paper, players end up not using them a whole bunch and would prefer another spell or talent in the mix.
|
|