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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 11, 2024 23:01:44 GMT
Or...he's wasted by some really old gods who are really pissed at him. Solas is a "god" too, even 2 on 1 they know killing a "god" is no simple matter.
In fact there used to be a war where 7 of elven "gods" had to unite to defeat one of them. Even then they didn't kill him, just forced him to chill out with conquests and go back to ruling his realm.
This is why Solas had to use trickery to trap Evanuris, he simply had no ability to kill any of them yet if at all. Maybe they do just rough him up. But either way the reunion of the three is unlikely to be tender and fond.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 11, 2024 23:04:16 GMT
Please not September. Space Marine 2 releases that month and I'll be busy playing that. Well I'm putting off playing Space Marines 2 as I need to save money, so Veilguard is my top priority. Yeah I'm likely goin gt owait till nex tyea rbefoe rI pick up Sta rWars Outlaws a tleast as I think m ymain aim once Veilguard is out is do a fwe Dragon Age runs likel yplaying al l4 games as it will be then. I may throw in a playthrough o r2 o fthe ME games though alon gwit hHorizon as I'll likel ybe ready t oplay Forbidden Wes tagain b ythen if I don't play it befoer and try the Leg ogame astha tlooks quiet good light hearted fun.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 11, 2024 23:05:27 GMT
Solas is a "god" too, even 2 on 1 they know killing a "god" is no simple matter.
In fact there used to be a war where 7 of elven "gods" had to unite to defeat one of them. Even then they didn't kill him, just forced him to chill out with conquests and go back to ruling his realm.
This is why Solas had to use trickery to trap Evanuris, he simply had no ability to kill any of them yet if at all. Maybe they do just rough him up. But either way the reunion of the three is unlikely to be tender and fond. That I can see, just ultimately Solas escapes with serious wounds.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 11, 2024 23:07:48 GMT
Fingers crossed for September. Please not September. Space Marine 2 releases that month and I'll be busy playing that. I twon' tb eSeptembe ras that's when EA launches it's sports games like Fifa/FC NHL games lik ethat s oSeptembe ris likely a no
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 11, 2024 23:08:45 GMT
Maybe they do just rough him up. But either way the reunion of the three is unlikely to be tender and fond. That I can see, just ultimately Solas escapes with serious wounds. I doubt we'll ally with him. Solas just got a lot of innocent civvies killed. That's not forgivable.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 11, 2024 23:11:08 GMT
That I can see, just ultimately Solas escapes with serious wounds. I doubt we'll ally with him. Solas just got a lot of innocent civvies killed. That's not forgivable. Well it may be the case we need him to close the Veil properly, or at least deal with those two elven "gods".
It would be alliance of necessity, not friendship.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 11, 2024 23:15:22 GMT
That I can see, just ultimately Solas escapes with serious wounds. I doubt we'll ally with him. Solas just got a lot of innocent civvies killed. That's not forgivable. everything is forgivable in the right context.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 11, 2024 23:16:42 GMT
That I can see, just ultimately Solas escapes with serious wounds. I doubt we'll ally with him. Solas just got a lot of innocent civvies killed. That's not forgivable. An dbroke Varric's ewapon can' tforge tBianca. That's why I'm advocating fo rDragon Age Bianca's revenge. Especiall ya sBianca has saved moe rlives than Solas has likely including both Hawke's and the Inquisitor's on multiple occasions.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 11, 2024 23:17:05 GMT
I doubt we'll ally with him. Solas just got a lot of innocent civvies killed. That's not forgivable. everything is forgivable in the right context. No, there are things unforgivable regardless of context. Genocide, mass murder, rape, etc. He’s committing two of those.
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Post by biggydx on Jun 11, 2024 23:17:52 GMT
Something I'd just thought I'd say. While I'm still well within the skeptic camp, I do see why BioWare would want to go for richer color palettes and higher contrast in their visual design. You want to make yourself stand out from your competitors. In the landscape of Fantasy RPG's, you probably can only do so much since others likely take similar design choice. But if you branch out to the general category of 'Narrative-driven games,' now you're starting to see more straight-edged, graphical realism (such as that of a Witcher 3 or Cyberpunk). So at least in this realm, you can make your game visually "Pop".
Also, I'm personally not a believer in the idea that deeper (or even more vibrant) color palettes always means the game won't have a mature undertone. For example, Ghost is Tsushima is quite an eye-pleaser, but has a very mature storyline.
Swinging back the other way, I do see how others might be taken aback by some of the enemy design choices.
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Post by Sartoz on Jun 11, 2024 23:26:48 GMT
Looks like I'm out again then. Too action-y for me. Even with PAUSE?
Melee is out for me. PAUSE allows you to choose a companion skill to use. Who will use is it unclear to me. I can see myself pausing often, regardless of my chosen Class. This makes combat fluidity non existent..... It's why I love the AUTO Attack in DA2. Also, It's unclear whether in PAUSE I can re-target.... which definitely helps me.
Of what use is all this hand crafted side quests and deep immersive char.... Ra! Ra! Ra! if I can't make progress in the game? .... ie: win battles?
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Post by colfoley on Jun 11, 2024 23:28:27 GMT
I will be rather annoyed if they kill Solas and Varick in the opening.
Though at this point I don't think either will die.
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Post by Sartoz on Jun 11, 2024 23:28:40 GMT
All companions are pansexual and romanceable This has been comedy gold, people complaining that all straight romances have been 'erased'. I don't remember those complaints with Skyrim and Fallout.
LOL.... I'm more interested if I can play the game.... much toooo actioneeee.
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Post by Sartoz on Jun 11, 2024 23:34:00 GMT
▪️Quests are more handcrafted and mission based, curated with alternate paths, secrets to discover and optional content I wonder if this means like Mass Effect, very linear, or like DA Origin and 2, clear paths and objectives but quite open still. I really hope for the latter but I imagine it's the former.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jun 11, 2024 23:35:05 GMT
Shinobi602 @shinobi602▪️Mage Class: Use magic to incinerate, freeze, electrocute and crush. Some cast from afar, while others prefer close quarters combat I mean... You have my attention.
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 11, 2024 23:35:05 GMT
I doubt we'll ally with him. Solas just got a lot of innocent civvies killed. That's not forgivable. everything is forgivable in the right context. Varric tells him people are dying and Solas is cold as shit about it. I don't want my Rook to ally with that kind of person/god.
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 11, 2024 23:36:45 GMT
I doubt we'll ally with him. Solas just got a lot of innocent civvies killed. That's not forgivable. Well it may be the case we need him to close the Veil properly, or at least deal with those two elven "gods".
It would be alliance of necessity, not friendship.
Yuck.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 11, 2024 23:38:00 GMT
everything is forgivable in the right context. Varric tells him people are dying and Solas is cold as shit about it. I don't want my Rook to ally with that kind of person/god. fair enough but we've already had a lot of fairly dubious moral allies in both games and from a point of view...he has a point.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jun 11, 2024 23:38:24 GMT
Cross post, but: I feel like Varric's statement in the demo of "Solas needs someone to sell him another option. To help him justify changing his mind." might be the mission/thesis statement of the game. The main focus being on "another option". Which Varric doesn't seem to have actually had at the time, but w/e. I've always hoped this game's plot would involve finding that "other option", if you chose. So, I'm very happy with this. It'll be easy to decide to kill the egg, but I'm hopeful we really will get the option to save him, too. At least, in the "he doesn't have to become the monster he thinks he does" sense. Of course, this will require him to *actually* tell us why he's doing the things he's doing the way he's doing them. Also, I didn't take Solas' "People die, its what they do." thing as cold. Its cynical. Despairing, maybe. Its in line with every other comment he's made about the current world. People die cus he broke the world, etc. Also, its likely referencing Mythal. Which reminds me, he absorbed her and I fully expect her to exert some possession or something at some point. So. That's gonna be interesting.
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Post by Ravenfeeder on Jun 11, 2024 23:38:50 GMT
It's one of the things that Solas hates about the present. That people die. When it was just elves they didn't die from old age. I suspect it's one of the reasons he wanted to tear down the Veil. But then he's never cared about anything except those original elves, so F him.
I suspect he and Varric are captured by the really bad guys and he drops the dagger for us to pick up.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 11, 2024 23:40:48 GMT
everything is forgivable in the right context. Varric tells him people are dying and Solas is cold as shit about it. I don't want my Rook to ally with that kind of person/god. Of course he is - but he also knows a lot more than we do. And he already sacrificed many people to save the world from Evanuris - destroyed the whole of Elvenhan, but saved the world so it could rebuild. For whatever reason he thinks he has to do it again.
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 11, 2024 23:45:48 GMT
Varric tells him people are dying and Solas is cold as shit about it. I don't want my Rook to ally with that kind of person/god. Of course he is - but he also knows a lot more than we do. And he already sacrificed many people to save the world from Evanuris - destroyed the whole of Elvenhan, but saved the world so it could rebuild. For whatever reason he thinks he has to do it again. I realize he has his fans here. I am not one of them. I think he's nuts. He's a mass murderer and just as big a danger to the world as the other old gods. Instead of allying with him lets put him behind the veil with the other two!
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 11, 2024 23:47:30 GMT
everything is forgivable in the right context. Varric tells him people are dying and Solas is cold as shit about it. I don't want my Rook to ally with that kind of person/god. TBF it sounded more like copium than a firmly held belief.
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 11, 2024 23:47:44 GMT
Varric tells him people are dying and Solas is cold as shit about it. I don't want my Rook to ally with that kind of person/god. fair enough but we've already had a lot of fairly dubious moral allies in both games and from a point of view...he has a point. True but this guy is walking red flag. Varric is tender about him but notice Harding is not.
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 11, 2024 23:49:52 GMT
Varric tells him people are dying and Solas is cold as shit about it. I don't want my Rook to ally with that kind of person/god. TBF it sounded more like copium than a firmly held belief. Hmm no. People are clearly dying in Minrathus and Solas isn't really bothered by it. Oh he took some promise of precautions but demons were tearing apart Minrathous.
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