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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 18, 2024 11:57:23 GMT
It is fascinating how with big games like Veilguard, where we're talking 100+ hours for a completionist run - especially when it's your first run and you need time to figure things out - that even 2+ weeks post-release most people are either refusing to discuss anything spoilery, or straight up haven't finished yet. It creates this weird quietness as a slow trickle of people finally finish and return to social media. I do feel for the devs in that regard, given most agree the game gets better as it goes on and the finale is the best part - and also the part they can't just openly discuss and post about yet. I've seen multiple people lamenting that all they want to do is scream and shout about some of the big moments and revelations we get and yet it's still too early to do so. Been in the trenches all along and while the game has been getting better and better think its been pretty consistent all along. Yeah whils tI've not finishedye tthe stor yfeels pretty consistent and feels like it get's better the moer you do. Th ebosses tha tyou figh ta ttheend of everybody's quest chain are all prett ygood fun as well. S oeven the side stuff is proving fun t odo.
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Post by githcheater on Nov 18, 2024 16:35:52 GMT
With those scores, you would think the game would good. But with the way the Dragon Age subreddit and some people here are talking about it, you'd be forgiven if you got the impression that Veilguard is the worst game ever made. 71% with all the brigading is very impressive. People have straight up bought the game, left it running for a few hours, reviewed it as bad, and refunded it. Like that's some dedication lmao I am not so sure that the 71% rating is entirely due to brigading, as the rating has slowly crept down from 73% to 71% over the past two weeks. I would guess that most of the trolls voted in the first week, and have lost interest since then. It seems to me that the PC folks are a bit more critical of the DAtV than the console folks, as the X-Box and PS5 reviews are comparable to DAO, DA2 and DAI.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Nov 18, 2024 16:38:09 GMT
71% with all the brigading is very impressive. People have straight up bought the game, left it running for a few hours, reviewed it as bad, and refunded it. Like that's some dedication lmao I am not so sure that the 71% rating is entirely due to brigading, as the rating has slowly crept down from 73% to 71% over the past two weeks. I would guess that most of the trolls voted in the first week, and have lost interest since then. It seems to me that the PC folks are a bit more critical of the DAtV than the console folks, as the X-Box and PS5 reviews are comparable to DAO, DA2 and DAI. IDK they're still in full force and there hasn't been another release yet to take away their attentions.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Nov 18, 2024 18:05:41 GMT
FYI Game Awards nominees were announced
GOTY Nominees Astro Bot Balatro Black Myth: Waking Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Metapahor: ReFantazio
Veilguard was nominated for Innovation in Accessibility
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I wasn't expecting Veilguard to get nominated for GOTY, particularly with the news that DLC was eligible, but I thought maybe it would be for Best RPG. Personally haven't played any of the nominees this year so can't really say what is most deserving.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 18, 2024 18:12:41 GMT
I’ve never heard of innovation of accessibility before but congratulations none the less!
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 18, 2024 18:20:40 GMT
FYI Game Awards nominees were announced GOTY NomineesAstro Bot Balatro Black Myth: Waking Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Metapahor: ReFantazio Veilguard was nominated for Innovation in Accessibility------------ I wasn't expecting Veilguard to get nominated for GOTY, particularly with the news that DLC was eligible, but I thought maybe it would be for Best RPG. Personally haven't played any of the nominees this year so can't really say what is most deserving. Yeah I coul dsee myself playimng Rebirth when it comes to PC but otherwis eyeah I don' tse emysel fplaying either
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Post by biggydx on Nov 18, 2024 18:22:17 GMT
FYI Game Awards nominees were announced GOTY NomineesAstro Bot Balatro Black Myth: Waking Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Metapahor: ReFantazio Veilguard was nominated for Innovation in Accessibility------------ I wasn't expecting Veilguard to get nominated for GOTY, particularly with the news that DLC was eligible, but I thought maybe it would be for Best RPG. Personally haven't played any of the nominees this year so can't really say what is most deserving. Got most of my predictions right. Wasn't anticipating Shadow of the Erdtree initially, but once Geoff mentioned it was in consideration I knew it was settled. So are you saying Veilguard didn't even make it into the nomination for RPG of the year (genuinely asking)? If so, that's on BioWare tbh.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 18, 2024 18:27:08 GMT
I’ve never heard of innovation of accessibility before but congratulations none the less! I thin kthey started doing tha taward las tyear as I think Forza won it. I cvan see wh yVeilguard hasgiven it has abuilt in God mode for peopl ewh o migh tstruggl eplaying heav yaction games. Though tbh I'v ealways foun dBiowaer's games accessibl eeven Anthem to a point. So tb hI'm no tsurprised Veilguard got nominated for this.
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 18, 2024 18:33:13 GMT
Well, well... found a cameo char whose name starts with I and Bio cannot make up its mind how to show this one. From white to black & back to white. From skinny to voluptuous to old.The hat, imo, makes the char look silly. Personally, I blame management for allowing the new "look" to go through. There seems to be few consistencies, other than returning chars. Even then, changes "must be made". It's time like these that I start subtracting points from the game.
Sigh... the "stability" of the Mass Effect universe calms me.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Nov 18, 2024 18:35:08 GMT
FYI Game Awards nominees were announced GOTY NomineesAstro Bot Balatro Black Myth: Waking Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Metapahor: ReFantazio Veilguard was nominated for Innovation in Accessibility------------ I wasn't expecting Veilguard to get nominated for GOTY, particularly with the news that DLC was eligible, but I thought maybe it would be for Best RPG. Personally haven't played any of the nominees this year so can't really say what is most deserving. Got most of my predictions right. Wasn't anticipating Shadow of the Erdtree initially, but once Geoff mentioned it was in consideration I knew it was settled. So are you saying Veilguard didn't even make it into the nomination for RPG of the year (genuinely asking)? If so, that's on BioWare tbh. No, these are the RPG nominees: Dragon’s Dogma 2 Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Metaphor: ReFantazio Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth 3 of the 5 were also GOTY nominees so it would have needed to grab one of the other two slots, and just looking at opencritic scores, it was tough competition. Again, haven't played any of these though.
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 18, 2024 18:38:00 GMT
I’ve never heard of innovation of accessibility before but congratulations none the less! I thin kthey started doing tha taward las tyear as I think Forza won it. I cvan see wh yVeilguard hasgiven it has abuilt in God mode for peopl ewh o migh tstruggl eplaying heav yaction games. Though tbh I'v ealways foun dBiowaer's games accessibl eeven Anthem to a point. So tb hI'm no tsurprised Veilguard got nominated for this. Innovation in Accessibility is a low bar, imo. I was expecting a GOTY nomination.
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Post by biggydx on Nov 18, 2024 18:39:09 GMT
Got most of my predictions right. Wasn't anticipating Shadow of the Erdtree initially, but once Geoff mentioned it was in consideration I knew it was settled. So are you saying Veilguard didn't even make it into the nomination for RPG of the year (genuinely asking)? If so, that's on BioWare tbh. No, these are the RPG nominees: Dragon’s Dogma 2 Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Metaphor: ReFantazio Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth 3 of the 5 were also GOTY nominees so it would have needed to grab one of the other two slots, and just looking at opencritic scores, it was tough competition. Again, haven't played any of these though. Gotcha. Thanks.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Nov 18, 2024 18:41:55 GMT
Ah lovely glad to see the judges had no spine.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 18, 2024 18:48:03 GMT
I thin kthey started doing tha taward las tyear as I think Forza won it. I cvan see wh yVeilguard hasgiven it has abuilt in God mode for peopl ewh o migh tstruggl eplaying heav yaction games. Though tbh I'v ealways foun dBiowaer's games accessibl eeven Anthem to a point. So tb hI'm no tsurprised Veilguard got nominated for this. Innovation in Accessibility is a low bar, imo. I was expecting a GOTY nomination. Given th ehate the game has got I wasn't. It may be m yGOTY bu tthe ammount of criticism aimed a tit before launch prett ymuc hended an ychanc eit might have had really.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Nov 18, 2024 19:00:39 GMT
With those scores, you would think the game would good. But with the way the Dragon Age subreddit and some people here are talking about it, you'd be forgiven if you got the impression that Veilguard is the worst game ever made. 71% with all the brigading is very impressive. People have straight up bought the game, left it running for a few hours, reviewed it as bad, and refunded it. Like that's some dedication lmao There is definitely some truth to this. If you filter the Steam reviews by playtime of more than two hours, the rating goes up to 74%. Or it did yesterday. Actually reading some of the positive reviews, though, a number of them seem to feel only slightly positive about it, rather than love it - so it not getting nominations in creative categories isn't a huge surprise. There's a fair amount of "it's a good game, but not a good DA game" kind of sentiment on the Steam reviews.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 18, 2024 19:06:50 GMT
I'm a bit surprised DD2 made the list given that the reception was not overly enthusiastic. DAV not getting nominated for even the RPG category stings a bit, then again no western RPG was nominated as far as I can see.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Nov 18, 2024 19:15:25 GMT
71% with all the brigading is very impressive. People have straight up bought the game, left it running for a few hours, reviewed it as bad, and refunded it. Like that's some dedication lmao There is definitely some truth to this. If you filter the Steam reviews by playtime of more than two hours, the rating goes up to 74%. Or it did yesterday. Actually reading some of the positive reviews, though, a number of them seem to feel only slightly positive about it, rather than love it - so it not getting nominations in creative categories isn't a huge surprise. There's a fair amount of "it's a good game, but not a good DA game" kind of sentiment on the Steam reviews. Yeah I get it. Just funny how "it's not a good DA game" when DA has never had a consistent vision like no game is a good DA game if you consider one game to be a shining beacon.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 18, 2024 19:16:37 GMT
71% with all the brigading is very impressive. People have straight up bought the game, left it running for a few hours, reviewed it as bad, and refunded it. Like that's some dedication lmao There is definitely some truth to this. If you filter the Steam reviews by playtime of more than two hours, the rating goes up to 74%. Or it did yesterday. Actually reading some of the positive reviews, though, a number of them seem to feel only slightly positive about it, rather than love it - so it not getting nominations in creative categories isn't a huge surprise. There's a fair amount of "it's a good game, but not a good DA game" kind of sentiment on the Steam reviews. I think good game but not a good DA game is a cop out. Is the game good or not? As a customer I want to know, not this dancing around like some fans like to do. And besides why are we looking at steam again? Are they be all and end all of gaming sentiment?
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 18, 2024 19:17:45 GMT
The hat, imo, makes the char look silly. If I recall, the hat was teased in Inquisition.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Nov 18, 2024 19:24:37 GMT
There is definitely some truth to this. If you filter the Steam reviews by playtime of more than two hours, the rating goes up to 74%. Or it did yesterday. Actually reading some of the positive reviews, though, a number of them seem to feel only slightly positive about it, rather than love it - so it not getting nominations in creative categories isn't a huge surprise. There's a fair amount of "it's a good game, but not a good DA game" kind of sentiment on the Steam reviews. Yeah I get it. Just funny how "it's not a good DA game" when DA has never had a consistent vision like no game is a good DA game if you consider one game to be a shining beacon. For sure - and we only have to look at the Criticism thread here, consider what they were saying before the game actually released to know that for some people, it's just convenient code. But holding Dragon Age (the series) to a higher standard to others isn't necessarily indicative of bad faith reviewing.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Nov 18, 2024 19:31:52 GMT
Ah lovely glad to see the judges had no spine. What does this even mean.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Nov 18, 2024 19:33:27 GMT
FYI Game Awards nominees were announced GOTY NomineesAstro Bot Balatro Black Myth: Waking Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Metapahor: ReFantazio Veilguard was nominated for Innovation in Accessibility------------ I wasn't expecting Veilguard to get nominated for GOTY, particularly with the news that DLC was eligible, but I thought maybe it would be for Best RPG. Personally haven't played any of the nominees this year so can't really say what is most deserving. Got most of my predictions right. Wasn't anticipating Shadow of the Erdtree initially, but once Geoff mentioned it was in consideration I knew it was settled. So are you saying Veilguard didn't even make it into the nomination for RPG of the year (genuinely asking)? If so, that's on BioWare tbh. Ironically, I think Dragon Age Inquisition is the only BioWare game that has won goty. That doesn't mean it's bad game.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 18, 2024 19:43:43 GMT
Got most of my predictions right. Wasn't anticipating Shadow of the Erdtree initially, but once Geoff mentioned it was in consideration I knew it was settled. So are you saying Veilguard didn't even make it into the nomination for RPG of the year (genuinely asking)? If so, that's on BioWare tbh. Ironically, I think Dragon Age Inquisition is the only BioWare game that has won goty. That doesn't mean it's bad game. I htinkOrigin sdid as well but not suer on that.
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Post by Gwydden on Nov 18, 2024 19:45:41 GMT
What does this even mean. I'm guessing they mean the judges are afraid of the potential backlash of nominating Veilguard since a lot of people were determined to hate this game before it even came out because of silly culture war reasons. I don't think that holds a lot of water, personally. The Game Awards, like most media awards, are popularity contests and they usually nominate the titles that made the biggest splash among gamers that year. It's easy to get the wrong impression if one mostly hangs around here or the Dragon Age subreddit, but Veilguard didn't really cause much of a stir in the gaming scene. Based on buzz, my personal bet for who will win is Shadow of the Erdtree or Metaphor: Refantazio. Hopefully the latter, because Elden Ring already won and nominating an expansion pack is some BS.
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