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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 9, 2021 13:26:40 GMT
And the (halla-like) horns on the armor in the video remind me of early concept art for Abelas. I wasn't aware that Abelas was originally meant to look like that. That does make the archer likely an ancient elf connected with Andruil or Ghilan'nain then. Also the idea that the Kossith were an elven hybrid also seems more likely than previously. The reason I feel the connection is Andruil or Ghilan'nain is that the Dalish have always been very focused on the lore connected with them. Since Strife says that Arlathan Forest was definitely the domain of Andruil that would account for the memory of Andruil being strongest in the elves who became the slaves of Tevinter and of course Ghilan'nain is always closely associated with her. knife burning with prismatic flame" Prismatic weapons are definitely linked with the ancient elves and that bow looks as though it is a prismatic or chromatic one because of how the arrow only appears when the bow is drawn, much as the blade only appears on the sword or axe when it is swung.
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 9, 2021 18:22:14 GMT
knife burning with prismatic flame" Prismatic weapons are definitely linked with the ancient elves and that bow looks as though it is a prismatic or chromatic one because of how the arrow only appears when the bow is drawn, much as the blade only appears on the sword or axe when it is swung. The reason I think it's more likely to be a spirit weapon, rather than a prismatic/chromatic one, is the color. The prism/chrom ones are rainbow-hued, while the spirit blade was green like the bow. It too only generated a blade when used in an attack. It also might be a clue that it's tied to a specific class. Maybe.
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Christina Weir Christina WeirDay 18 of posting art from our #DragonAge run, each with a representative song lyric. Today we’re moving to relationships between characters. There’s nothing quite like the bond between a dog and their person. @ndefilippis @atiyehcolors @furukawaheinz @darkhorsecomics Song: "Follow You Down" - The Rembrandts
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Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah X ṡamk "peg" Q qoba "needle/nape/monkey" Z zayn/zayt "oxhide ingot"[34], "sword" Ę Æ The e caudata ("tailed e", from Latin: cauda — "tail") is a modified form of the letter E that can be graphically represented as E with ogonek (ę) but has a distinct history of usage. It was used in Latin from as early as the ninth century to represent the vowel also written ae or æ or in old Gaelic texts from the 13th century to represent an ea ligature.[1] ʾalp "ox" + haw/hillul "praise" Ñ =NN naḥaš "snake" ¥ #7FavoriteLetters It must be a code - CSI: BSN get on this! After a little research and help from a friend, I found something. Proto-Sinaitic script It can be nothing but i think it fits well. I hope my english is good enough.
XQ = peg in the nape (somebody is after us) Z = sword +(?)
2x AE = ox (Qunari) praise (don't know why 2x but with the sword it makes a little bit sence.) NN = 2x snake - Dragon(two headed dragon But the last letter i have no clue (my friend said Chinese yen for Ruler)
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SparklesDevSparkles @devbydaylightMordin Solas Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesOkay LISTEN actually no I got nothin David Gaider @davidgaiderI heard there was a scientist a Salarian, rarely violent and you don't really care for magic, do you?
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Post by Rascoth on Jan 9, 2021 21:51:14 GMT
^ I hate the fact that - for a second - my brain didn't register anything wrong with this picture
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jan 9, 2021 22:38:35 GMT
Meanwhile the gods await expectantly. ROFL
I'm gonna guess the dramatically lounging one is Falon'Din. XD
SparklesDevSparkles @devbydaylightMordin Solas Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesOkay LISTEN actually no I got nothin David Gaider @davidgaiderI heard there was a scientist a Salarian, rarely violent and you don't really care for magic, do you? David tryin' to wield the Hallelujah cadence, I see.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 9, 2021 22:44:15 GMT
Meanwhile the gods await expectantly. This really makes me want to be ale to support them. They're so cute. I love Andruil and Ghilan'nain hugging in the background, and Sylvaise and June cuddling while making a blanket for each other. Especially the last two since so far they haven't really done anything terrible.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jan 9, 2021 22:48:40 GMT
I mean, to be fair, Hanako, we've seen NO accounts that they act anything like this. And various accounts to the contrary. Ghilly sticks out the worst to me cus that Skin That Stalks, Eye that Weeps(?), etc, and their associated research journals still creep me the hell out.
The comic is amusing though, for both the lockdown reference and the characterization. It'd be nice if at least *one* of the Evanuris turned out to not be an a-hole on a personal level, even if their actions or inaction end up deserving condemnation anyway. Make em more rounded as actual characters and give them as much depth as Fen'Harel currently has.
Personally, I want to see Mythal and Elgar'nan have a chat like real people, not just a monologue battle across some field as they power-up for vengeance.
Andruil and Falon'Din I wouldn't mind just punching though, given what we've learned of them so far.
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I am the very model of an Evanuris rapscalian I've studied species Qunari, human, and dwarvian I'm quite good at dream casting as a subset of my magic But I am an epic screw up, which I know is quite tragic.
My knowledge is prodigious though I'm stuffy and condescending I'm fluent in the elven tongue and forgotten ones' face branding My fade studies range from Venatori to Orlesian I am the very model of an Evanuris rapscalian
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 9, 2021 22:57:46 GMT
I mean, to be fair, Hanako, we've seen NO accounts that they act anything like this. And various accounts to the contrary. Ghilly sticks out the worst to me cus that Skin That Stalks, Eye that Weeps(?), etc, and their associated research journals still creep me the hell out.
The comic is amusing though, for both the lockdown reference and the characterization. It'd be nice if at least *one* of the Evanuris turned out to not be an a-hole on a personal level, even if their actions or inaction end up deserving condemnation anyway. Make em more rounded as actual characters and give them as much depth as Fen'Harel currently has.
Personally, I want to see Mythal and Elgar'nan have a chat like real people, not just a monologue battle across some field as they power-up for vengeance.
Andruil and Falon'Din I wouldn't mind just punching though, given what we've learned of them so far.
Various biased accounts, to be fair. Funnily enough I tend not to elieve the guy or his followers who waged war on them. Especially when he has proven himself to be less than untrustworthy. But I hope so too. I think Sylvaise and June are probably the most likely candidates, since they're whole thing is helping others through healing and crafting. Even Solas hasn't said anything bad about them yet.
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I am the very model of an Evanuris rapscalian I've studied species Qunari, human, and dwarvian I'm quite good at dream casting as a subset of my magic Because I am an epic screw up which I know is quite tragic. My knowledge is prodigious though I'm stuffy and condescending I'm fluent in the elven tongue and forgotten ones' branding My fade studies range from Venatori to Orlesian I am the very model of an Evanuris rapscalian
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jan 9, 2021 23:00:06 GMT
I mean, to be fair, Hanako, we've seen NO accounts that they act anything like this. And various accounts to the contrary. Ghilly sticks out the worst to me cus that Skin That Stalks, Eye that Weeps(?), etc, and their associated research journals still creep me the hell out.
The comic is amusing though, for both the lockdown reference and the characterization. It'd be nice if at least *one* of the Evanuris turned out to not be an a-hole on a personal level, even if their actions or inaction end up deserving condemnation anyway. Make em more rounded as actual characters and give them as much depth as Fen'Harel currently has.
Personally, I want to see Mythal and Elgar'nan have a chat like real people, not just a monologue battle across some field as they power-up for vengeance.
Andruil and Falon'Din I wouldn't mind just punching though, given what we've learned of them so far.
Various biased accounts, to be fair. Funnily enough I tend not to elieve the guy or his followers who waged war on them. Especially when he has proven himself to be less than untrustworthy. But I hope so too. I think Sylvaise and June are probably the most likely candidates, since they're whole thing is helping others through healing and crafting. Even Solas hasn't said anything bad about them yet. I wasn't talking about Solas' accounts. I was talking about the memories we see in the library, the behavior exhibited in the various Dalish stories. As an example, Andruil hunts people and attempts to force someone to be her bed slave in those. If those are accurate, then I just don't like her.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 9, 2021 23:04:42 GMT
Various biased accounts, to be fair. Funnily enough I tend not to elieve the guy or his followers who waged war on them. Especially when he has proven himself to be less than untrustworthy. But I hope so too. I think Sylvaise and June are probably the most likely candidates, since they're whole thing is helping others through healing and crafting. Even Solas hasn't said anything bad about them yet. I wasn't talking about Solas' accounts. I was talking about the memories we see in the library, the behavior exhibited in the various Dalish stories. As an example, Andruil hunts people and attempts to force someone to be her bed slave in those. If those are accurate, then I just don't like her. While I agree Andruil seems one of the worst, I wouldn’t say Fade accounts are really trustworthy due to how subjective they can be. If someone thought that way, it would seem so. If they thought the opposite, they would seem the opposite. Like the Ostagar tragedy with Loghain.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jan 9, 2021 23:08:55 GMT
I wasn't talking about Solas' accounts. I was talking about the memories we see in the library, the behavior exhibited in the various Dalish stories. As an example, Andruil hunts people and attempts to force someone to be her bed slave in those. If those are accurate, then I just don't like her. While I agree Andruil seems one of the worst, I wouldn’t say Fade accounts are really trustworthy due to how subjective they can be. If someone thought that way, it would seem so. If they thought the opposite, they would seem the opposite. Like the Ostagar tragedy with Loghain. A valid point.
And I agree on June and Sylaise having the least against them for the moment, btw.
I think something (Temple of Mythal mosaic???) implied that Sylaise was vain and cruel, ala a mean girl. But still, no specific incidents.
All June has against him as this point is his workforce management isn't up to par and he allows brawls. I mean, yeah its not great there was a culture that encouraged death matches over pleasing their ruler, but its also not exactly unheard of. And its not the worst.
I think Dirthamen has a good chance of being a decent bloke on a personal level, maybe even having been involved to an extent in the slave rebellion. Till his brother got smacked down. Although maybe he was betrayed before mythal's death, given those watcher statues (who I assume is either him or Solas given the context of the Emerald Graves) we see with a knife in their back.
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Post by sandwichtern on Jan 10, 2021 1:37:28 GMT
Prismatic weapons are definitely linked with the ancient elves and that bow looks as though it is a prismatic or chromatic one because of how the arrow only appears when the bow is drawn, much as the blade only appears on the sword or axe when it is swung. The reason I think it's more likely to be a spirit weapon, rather than a prismatic/chromatic one, is the color. The prism/chrom ones are rainbow-hued, while the spirit blade was green like the bow. It too only generated a blade when used in an attack. It also might be a clue that it's tied to a specific class. Maybe. *snip* If prismatic weapons will be returning in the next game, I hope the developers will have tweaked their appearance. A transparent blade which reflects a spectrum of colours when you swing it sounds like a cool idea but it fell flat when its execution ended up looking like a sheet of rainbow-coloured frosted glass. Perhaps to lose the shower screen association the blades should be thicker and have a different patterned glass texture? Making the surface look more like Damascus steel or pattern welded blades could be one option. A more unusual suggestion would be to make the blade emulate iridescent insect wings. That way each prismatic hue would be separated within their own little enclosure and held together by a metal frame. With this idea the weapon would have a 'chicken wire'-like appearance when unused.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Jan 10, 2021 4:59:44 GMT
Someone must have noticed already that this early concept art has Fen'Harel vallaslin...? There are multiple eyes tattooed on the face, and a dog's nose on the chin. The hair horns remind me of Flemeth's, tbh. And that would make some sort of sense if this was Abelas, priest of Mythal.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 10, 2021 9:36:30 GMT
Someone must have noticed already that this early concept art has Fen'Harel vallaslin...? There are multiple eyes tattooed on the face, and a dog's nose on the chin. I assume that this was included somewhere with the title "Abelas" because otherwise you might think it was a follower of Fen'Harel. Also, if Fen'Harel ever had vallaslin of his own, was this a case of him using them when he was part of the ruling elite, only to reject them later, or if this is very early concept art was it a case of the writers only deciding later the negative connotations of the vallaslin? Another thought that occurred to me; could this be how Solas/Fen'Harel originally looked? By this I don't mean how the designers imagined him but then changed their minds but how the "First" of the People actually appeared. After all, Rasaan maintains that even Solas isn't his real name, so if that is the case, then the humble looking elf possibly isn't his real form either. "Beware the forms of Fen'Harel", suggests he had more than simply the humble elf and the Dread Wolf. The hair horns remind me of Flemeth's, tbh. And that would make some sort of sense if this was Abelas, priest of Mythal. Why limit this look to just Mythal and her priesthood though? The earliest "elves" probably did look very different but could shift their shape to suit their purpose. (It would also explain how he could recognise someone was not one of his people just by looking at them because perhaps he could tell if someone was in the own form or not). Remember the Lady of the Forest and Witherfang? She was a spirit of the land that was bound to the wolf by a magical curse but she could still shapeshift between the two forms by her own will. So what if other spirits of nature originally were able to do this of their own will? Mythal's vallaslin is closely associated with a tree, so it would make sense that she and those serving her would have tree-like appendages. In which case, could the latest Arcane Archer that we see in images actually be connected with Mythal?
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jan 10, 2021 12:22:18 GMT
In which case, could the latest Arcane Archer that we see in images actually be connected with Mythal? hey, I'm all for serving her
(I mean...*points to username* kinda fits Mythal's bill as well (Mythal is the goddess of justice, but we've seen her vengeful side as well)
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 10, 2021 14:02:59 GMT
hey, I'm all for serving her Yes, I see your point about your username. Anyway, this archer is hunting darkspawn in the clip and whilst we don't know exactly how the other Creators viewed the blight, we definitely know that Mythal opposes it (or Flemeth did and I assume Mythal was in agreement). Also, whatever scheme she had for Urthemiel's soul, Flemeth does says it was "snatched from the jaws of darkness", implying it was a rescue mission to an extent in order to prevent it being forever lost. (Whatever the Old Gods were, they have to be connected to the ancient elves in some way) If Solas is correct and Mythal truly cared for her people, then her sense of justice is for them as much as for herself. I am also mindful of that fact that Mythal speaking through Flemeth acknowledges the Dalish as her people, unlike her own priesthood or Solas. She does this with Merrill, "Then rise... the people are too quick to bow the knee", and again with a Dalish Inquisitor, "You do the people proud." I wished she could have told Abelas that. What I puzzle about is what effect absorbing her had on Solas, if at all. Also, what did she put into the eluvian before he arrived? Remember how they both apologised to one another? In the case of Mythal, was this for what happened in the past or what will happen in the future? Could this be because she knows she is going to betray him? Just a thought, do you suppose that magical arrow would be capable of slicing through Fen'Harel's defences?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 10, 2021 14:27:58 GMT
As an example, Andruil hunts people and attempts to force someone to be her bed slave in those. In the case of this one it isn't a Dalish tale but Felassan's and he also told a pretty unsavoury tale concerning Fen'Harel where he advises someone to murder a girl in order that a second funeral will be held where they can see the same set of mourners. That doesn't paint a very pretty picture of him either and plays up the dark wisdom aspect that the Dalish always talk about. Why would he do that if it weren't true, particularly considering he seems to be a follower of the Dread Wolf? After all, I'm sure Briala only knows about any of the gods because of what he taught her. So, to be honest, I take all of his tales with a pinch of salt, particularly as there is a lot of allegory and symbolism in them. It does seem a bit too easy to say that all the other gods were assholes except Mythal who just happens to be the one Fen'Harel was in cahoots with. I would note the fact that Mythal did nothing about Falon'Din until her land and people were affected by him, even though she is meant to be the goddess of justice and protection for all the people. Whenever the other gods are threatened, they appeal to Mythal rather than taking the law into their own hands. This is the case with the stories of Andruil, Falon'Din and Elgar'nan. The latter only seems to step in if Mythal deems it appropriate. So either they respect her role or they aren't as all powerful as Solas paints them. Then there is the case of Ghilan'nain. Her monsters are out of control and yet they have to bribe her to stop by giving her a place at the top table. You would think that seven gods together could deal with her but apparently not. Ghilan'nain actually seems to have had an awful lot of power in her own right and once she joined their ranks she started to sow discontent, so I'm very suspicious of her role in later events. Yet Solas maintains they banded together and murdered Mythal. Then he succeeds in imprisoning them. How did he manage to pull that off? The Dalish say it is because they trusted him, the memory in the library suggests the opposite. So something does chime there. I would very much like to hear from someone who isn't in either the Mythal or Fen'Harel camp just to get another independent view on things. I don't count the memories in the library because we have no idea whose they were or where their sympathies lay.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jan 10, 2021 18:27:20 GMT
hey, I'm all for serving her Yes, I see your point about your username. Anyway, this archer is hunting darkspawn in the clip and whilst we don't know exactly how the other Creators viewed the blight, we definitely know that Mythal opposes it (or Flemeth did and I assume Mythal was in agreement). Also, whatever scheme she had for Urthemiel's soul, Flemeth does says it was "snatched from the jaws of darkness", implying it was a rescue mission to an extent in order to prevent it being forever lost. (Whatever the Old Gods were, they have to be connected to the ancient elves in some way) If Solas is correct and Mythal truly cared for her people, then her sense of justice is for them as much as for herself. I am also mindful of that fact that Mythal speaking through Flemeth acknowledges the Dalish as her people, unlike her own priesthood or Solas. She does this with Merrill, "Then rise... the people are too quick to bow the knee", and again with a Dalish Inquisitor, "You do the people proud." I wished she could have told Abelas that. What I puzzle about is what effect absorbing her had on Solas, if at all. Also, what did she put into the eluvian before he arrived? Remember how they both apologised to one another? In the case of Mythal, was this for what happened in the past or what will happen in the future? Could this be because she knows she is going to betray him? Just a thought, do you suppose that magical arrow would be capable of slicing through Fen'Harel's defences? I love Flemeth (even though my Warden 'kills' her) and her telling a Dalish Quizzy she's proud of them, makes me want to cry especially given everyone else giving a Dalish Quizzy all sorts of crap about being 'too elfy' or not being 'elfy' enough who decides what a real elf is these days?
As for what Flemeth put inside the Eluvian...is could be anything, some say it's Mythal's essence others say it's Flemeth's magic. Either way, Solas absorbing whatever was left inside her has evidently made him more dangerous.
I kinda wonder if we even have a counter measure against Solas' new(old) Medusa/Basilisk glare... I mean, the Vidassala was turned to stone and he didn't even look at her.
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