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Post by Hrungr on Oct 14, 2021 20:56:21 GMT
GamesBeat @gamesbeatDragon Age 4 is heading to PS5, Xbox Series X/S without cross-gen releases wp.me/p8wLEc-bs7S by @jeffgrubb Dragon Age 4 is coming to PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X/S, and PC, but it will not get versions for PlayStation 4 or Xbox One. This isn’t too shocking, but it does show that developers like BioWare are ready to leave the last-gen consoles behind. This news comes from the LinkedIn profile for Dragon Age’s lead player designer at BioWare (hat tip to Faizan Shaikh). But I’ve also separately confirmed that EA is planning the game only for the new-gen systems. *snippety snip* Welcome news, to be honest. While I still own an XBox One, I remember the shitshow that was the cross-gen release of Inquisition. I remember Mark Darrah saying (repeatedly) he regretted going Cross-Gen for DA:I, so this is just as I expected.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 14, 2021 21:04:38 GMT
Whoa, there. Hold the fucking phone. I said that was "their" argument. While mocking them. Isabella is my favourite companion and romance in Dragon Age. Do not lump me in with the knuckle draggers, thanks. I didn't. At least that was not my intention to do so so if my post came off that way could easily have been some grammatical error on my part. But I fully understand that you were just reporting on the eccentricities of others and not your own position. Edit: and now I noticed where I made the error. Sorry Dragon. Please don't eat me. All good. I'm on a diet, anyway.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 14, 2021 21:05:38 GMT
Welcome news, to be honest. While I still own an XBox One, I remember the shitshow that was the cross-gen release of Inquisition. I remember Mark Darrah saying (repeatedly) he regretted going Cross-Gen for DA:I, so I this is just as I expected. Yeah, if they didn't learn the lesson after the release of DAI, watching CDPR be consumed by PS4/XB1 players following CP2077 would certainly have done it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 14, 2021 21:18:55 GMT
Most likely it isn’t coming out until at least 2024 then, otherwise their sales will differ due to shortages of those consoles.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 14, 2021 21:27:43 GMT
Well, God of War: Ragnarok is supposed to come out in 2022 on the PS4 and PS5, so it wouldn't be unheard of for the next Dragon Age game to try and come out on two console generations. With that in mind, I'm just glad that they're not going to try it. I understand, but it is also a PS exclusive and PS5s are either overpriced as hell, or as rare to find at MSRP as unicorns. Not that SONY would have had any idea about that, when development on Ragnarock started, but 2022 is still early enough. The PS3 still had support a couple of years into the PS4's lifespan. It wasn't until the Pro that PS3 support really died, around, what was it, 2017? Which is 3 years after the PS4's launch. Which is around the time DA4 is expected to come out, comparatively, into the PS5's lifespan. Not only that, but we've had John Epler, unless I am mistaken, talking about it, a year ago. Not being a crossgen title. I just think that, of all the things Jeff Grubb could have "confirmed" this is the least interesting thing he could have divulged.
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Post by necrowaif on Oct 14, 2021 21:48:23 GMT
Yeah, if they didn't learn the lesson after the release of DAI, watching CDPR be consumed by PS4/XB1 players following CP2077 would certainly have done it.
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Post by githcheater on Oct 14, 2021 23:21:37 GMT
Yeah, if they didn't learn the lesson after the release of DAI, watching CDPR be consumed by PS4/XB1 players following CP2077 would certainly have done it. Well EA has been known to shoot themselves in the foot, so to me it is somewhat surprising to me that EA is not sacrificing quality with cross-gen in pursuit of maximum profit.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 15, 2021 1:49:24 GMT
Well, I do recall that the initial images of Isabela drew a lot of ire because her facial features were a bit different and a lot of gamers thought she was unattractive. (If I recall, her chin was bigger and that apparently made her "ugly.") Later, after they tinkered with her appearance a bit, the criticism shifted to her being TOO attractive and only being in the game to please the male fanboys. Just further proof no matter what fandom will find a way to whine. Sometimes it's best to present something that you're proud of and not to avoid fan backlash.
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That's one sweet looking pad, I definitely need to get into game development
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Post by Felya87 on Oct 15, 2021 10:42:27 GMT
The professional person inside me had already thought of many ways to rearrange the fornitures and add some color to the place. I hate when my brain does it
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Post by Grog Muffins on Oct 15, 2021 11:20:32 GMT
I thought Cass looked fine tbh. Then again, I wasn't interested in the games romances from the get-go. (That's right, I'm speaking blasphemy in the Bio Forums.) I think at this point I’d probably miss them if they were gone, but not enough to make me not want to play Dragon Age. I use them as a way to make each PT different by - at minimum - the scope of your LIs romance quest(s). They’re an…anchor for each characters story. For the romance scene(s) themselves, MEA’s we’re on the verge of being awkward, especially since kids don’t knock when coming into their parents offices. They weren’t any worse than TW3, though, given how the wife referred to Yen when she was on screen. Totally agree on missing the romances, while not actually requiring them to enjoy the game. For the past about 2 months I've been really into FF14 (currently going through the Stormblood expansion) and I'm really enjoying myself. Unfortunately, there isn't a romance system in that game, which is a bit of a shame, imo. There are a good number of characters that I like a whole lot and I would really like to see what a romance would add in terms of roleplay opportunities and even story/character progression and complexity. Making headcannons is all well and good, but it's an extra tasty morsel when actually in the game. It's all subtext and while certain characters give off stronger hints than others that they're in love with or are attracted to your PC and you can try leaning into it, it's all left pretty ambiguous in the end. All I can say is that the tragedy of the Solasmance would mean nothing to me compared to the tragedy of a potential romance with Haurchefant in FF14.
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Post by Grog Muffins on Oct 15, 2021 11:33:45 GMT
Well, I do recall that the initial images of Isabela drew a lot of ire because her facial features were a bit different and a lot of gamers thought she was unattractive. (If I recall, her chin was bigger and that apparently made her "ugly.") Later, after they tinkered with her appearance a bit, the criticism shifted to her being TOO attractive and only being in the game to please the male fanboys. Just further proof no matter what fandom will find a way to whine. Sometimes it's best to present something that you're proud of and not to avoid fan backlash. True, you can never please everyone at all times. Someone will always find something to criticize. It's a balancing act, you can be proud of a thing you make and still want to get feedback on how to improve it. You just need to wade through the deluge of whinging to find the constructive criticism that actually helps and the internet is an ever affluent river of the former.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Oct 15, 2021 11:55:46 GMT
The professional person inside me had already thought of many ways to rearrange the fornitures and add some color to the place. I hate when my brain does it Also theres too much unused space towards the ceiling!
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 15, 2021 13:18:58 GMT
I think at this point I’d probably miss them if they were gone, but not enough to make me not want to play Dragon Age. I use them as a way to make each PT different by - at minimum - the scope of your LIs romance quest(s). They’re an…anchor for each characters story. For the romance scene(s) themselves, MEA’s we’re on the verge of being awkward, especially since kids don’t knock when coming into their parents offices. They weren’t any worse than TW3, though, given how the wife referred to Yen when she was on screen. Snip All I can say is that the tragedy of the Solasmance would mean nothing to me compared to the tragedy of a potential romance with Haurchefant in FF14.
Hm... Baldy is uninteresting, I find. Romancing Scout Harding though..... would be interesting.
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 15, 2021 13:37:27 GMT
Well, God of War: Ragnarok is supposed to come out in 2022 on the PS4 and PS5, so it wouldn't be unheard of for the next Dragon Age game to try and come out on two console generations. With that in mind, I'm just glad that they're not going to try it. I understand, but it is also a PS exclusive and PS5s are either overpriced as hell, or as rare to find at MSRP as unicorns. Not that SONY would have had any idea about that, when development on Ragnarock started, but 2022 is still early enough. The PS3 still had support a couple of years into the PS4's lifespan. It wasn't until the Pro that PS3 support really died, around, what was it, 2017? Which is 3 years after the PS4's launch. Which is around the time DA4 is expected to come out, comparatively, into the PS5's lifespan. Not only that, but we've had John Epler, unless I am mistaken, talking about it, a year ago. Not being a crossgen title. I just think that, of all the things Jeff Grubb could have "confirmed" this is the least interesting thing he could have divulged.
Well, if it was too challenging to have MP in the ME LE, I doubt Bio will bother with cross-gen. There's no money in it, imo.... I'm reminded of the "good enough" statement from Bio.
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Post by Grog Muffins on Oct 15, 2021 13:53:12 GMT
Snip All I can say is that the tragedy of the Solasmance would mean nothing to me compared to the tragedy of a potential romance with Haurchefant in FF14.
Hm... Baldy is uninteresting, I find. Romancing Scout Harding though..... would be interesting.
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Oh, don't get me wrong, Solas isn't my main romance in DAI. The only time I romanced him was out of curiosity for the scenes and dialogue changes and I roleplayed a character that was into his smarmy attitude and acting like talking down to someone is attractive if you throw in a few flirts along the way. His romance is just not for me, but I do recognize the emotional impact of the DAI/Trespasser conclusion for the people who work through that sense of superiority that he has and make his see he's being unreasonable. As the fanfiction community might put it (probably), angst is just that good.
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Post by necrowaif on Oct 15, 2021 17:53:11 GMT
BioWare Gear Store @biowaregearThe Holidays are here at the Gear Store. Learn more about what we have planned for the Holidays and what you need to do to be prepared for them. gear.bioware.com/blogs/news/bioware-gear-store-the-holiday-kick-off(The relevant portion is that Dragon Age Week is Dec. 4-10, so there may be some deals on merch.) BioWare Gear Store @biowaregearThe Gear Store is starting the Holiday Season with a Costume Contest! Come join in the celebration and show us your best costume or vote on your favourite for prizes. gear.bioware.com/pages/geargiveawaycontest(The prize is some Mass Effect merch.)
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Post by Beerfish on Oct 15, 2021 21:36:16 GMT
50 blocks south of my house.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 15, 2021 21:58:31 GMT
David Gaider @davidgaiderAnd my place is now officially listed! If you ever wanted to see inside my (mostly empty) home, here's your chance! Sadly, the map of Thedas over the fireplace is NOT included. 😉 50 blocks south of my house. Haha. I know, right?
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 15, 2021 23:28:55 GMT
Kinda thought so myself.... and what does this mean? Bio is ignoring the mundane who can't afford the next and greatest? Do we really need some more graphics awe?
Give me deep characters, a good story, meaningful quests, I say. I'll drop the "your decisions matters" crapola.
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Post by bloodmagereaver on Oct 15, 2021 23:43:14 GMT
Well...
Kinda thought so myself.... and what does this mean? Bio is ignoring the mundane who can't afford the next and greatest? Do we really need some more graphics awe?
Give me deep characters, a good story, meaningful quests, I say. I'll drop the "your decisions matters" crapola.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 16, 2021 1:02:30 GMT
Kinda thought so myself.... and what does this mean? Bio is ignoring the mundane who can't afford the next and greatest? Do we really need some more graphics awe?
Give me deep characters, a good story, meaningful quests, I say. I'll drop the "your decisions matters" crapola.
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Well while we will get a graphical increase, which pretty much comes up with each new game anyways, more tech will mean more room and resources for things like 'better'/ more complicated plots and characters. Now of course this does not mean they will be better just that more resources can be devoted to more then just graphics.
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Post by necrowaif on Oct 16, 2021 5:03:00 GMT
Gamers for Groceries @gamersgroceries Do you have any questions about companions from any of the @dragonage games? We’ll have several of the devs on the stream on Oct. 23 answering them for you! Respond to this tweet with your questions and we’ll get to as many as we can
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 16, 2021 12:23:23 GMT
Kinda thought so myself.... and what does this mean? Bio is ignoring the mundane who can't afford the next and greatest? Do we really need some more graphics awe?
Give me deep characters, a good story, meaningful quests, I say. I'll drop the "your decisions matters" crapola.
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Well while we will get a graphical increase, which pretty much comes up with each new game anyways, more tech will mean more room and resources for things like 'better'/ more complicated plots and characters. Now of course this does not mean they will be better just that more resources can be devoted to more then just graphics.
You're right. Studios want to better their graphics with each game iteration, if the GPU permits. The hardware has come a long way but now what studios can achieve is incremental. Spending time and resources ( = cost ) on incrementality is foolish, imo. Tech alone does not add anything to a story, plot or quests. Rather it's the writers with the graphics artists and level designers that bring a scene/ battle together... not just tech. Hm.. I wonder if Bio still has the "Writers Pit".
Memorable characters such as Morrigan, Leliana, Varric, The Warden, Oghren etc...were created by the writers team and brought to life by the VO actors. That is why I got attached to these characters.
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