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Post by Hrungr on Feb 2, 2022 17:02:26 GMT
Weird that “The Sims” was listed in that spiel about a potential show, but I guess he was just listing their big franchises. The main thing that came across to me is that he wanted to get across that they were open to the idea of some sort of show from their IP but didn’t want to reveal anything specific. Emphasized the benefit of such shows is to raise the profile of the IP rather than direct revenue. Could be: - Nothing in the works (yet if ever) - Something is in the works but they don’t want to talk about it yet So, doesn’t tell us much but it’s neat. Nothing confirmed... yet, but I think there's enough evidence out there that something is (or will soon) be in the works for Mass Effect. Curious to see if the DA rumors will pan out as well. I mean, if they're willing to produce a series based on American McGee's Alice games... (seriously though, the first game is quite good...)
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Weird that “The Sims” was listed in that spiel about a potential show, but I guess he was just listing their big franchises. The main thing that came across to me is that he wanted to get across that they were open to the idea of some sort of show from their IP but didn’t want to reveal anything specific. Emphasized the benefit of such shows is to raise the profile of the IP rather than direct revenue. Could be: - Nothing in the works (yet if ever) - Something is in the works but they don’t want to talk about it yet So, doesn’t tell us much but it’s neat. The Sims Franchise does have its own characters and lore though not to the extent as DA, so maybe not as weird as you might think. Just think of it, Bella Goth is abducted by aliens and Cassandra has to try and rescue her while the house keeps getting rebuilt around her and Mortimer is dying, trapped in the pool because someone took away the ladder.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 2, 2022 19:07:49 GMT
I mean if they can make Battleship into a movie involving an alien invasion....
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Post by Heimdall on Feb 2, 2022 20:01:41 GMT
I mean… I’m now imagining a dark mirror-esque show with a group of housemates gradually becoming aware of a capricious intelligence manipulating their lives… 😂
Anyway, I expect if they get something in the works soon then they might actually have something to show by the time Mass Effect starts approaching a release date, so the timing would be right.
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Post by necrowaif on Feb 2, 2022 21:24:05 GMT
The Sims might work as a horror movie.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 3, 2022 2:43:43 GMT
It wouldn't be the Sims without trapping your person in a house and setting it on fire.
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Post by Hrungr on Feb 3, 2022 2:51:02 GMT
And for the sake of completeness, a kindly DA fan transcribed all the times BioWare was mentioned during the Investor's Conference Call.
"Our pipeline further amplifies our strength. In addition to our core franchises, we are building new experiences in some of the biggest enduring IP in entertainment. Last week we announced a new agreement with Disney and LucasFilm Games to develop new experiences in the Star Wars universe, continuing our collaboration of more than a decade. [?] is leading the development of the next game in our action-adventure Star Wars Jedi series, as well as two additional Star Wars titles. This adds to our deep pipeline of announced and unannounced projects, with our wholly-owned IP, including Need For Speed, our BioWare franchises, The Sims, Skate, Dead Space, and more."
Q: "In light of the announcement that you guys are working on those three new Star Wars games, can you talk a little bit more about your vision for that IP, and is it fair to say that going forwards you're planning to lean more towards investing in your own IP, and if so what are some of the potential pros and cons of that as a strategy?"
A: "Yeah, the very strength of our business is our balanced portfolio. We have both a deep and a broad portfolio, and what we've demonstrated over the best part of four years is to really develop both our own IP over time - Need For Speed, The Sims, Battlefield, Apex Legends, our BioWare franchises, we have Skate in development now, Dead Space on the way - so an incredible portfolio of own IP that has an extraordinary following across the industry. [...] And so if you think about our strategy going forwards, and the strength of our company, it really comes down to our ability to develop and build and publish industry-leading owned IP, and also [...]"
Q. "Paramount Plus dropped a pretty expensive-looking Halo trailer over the weekend, and Netflix has had some success with The Witcher and League of Legends on their streaming service. There's absolutely ravenous demand for content right now from half a dozen or so streaming services, and you guys have some IP, particularly within BioWare, that I think would be pretty good as a basis for a show. Are we finally at a point where video game IP has some trans-media opportunities or do you think that's still more a theory than a reality?"
A. "No, I think, based on exactly what you just said and what we've experienced, you know, video game IP or interactive entertainment IP is now some of the most culturally relevant IP in all of entertainment. And I think that's going to continue to grow. When you think about hundreds of millions of fans engaging in and around the IP we create, like Apex, like The Sims, like Need For Speed, like our BioWare franchises, like Dead Space, like Skate, it's not unnatural for that to spawn kind of a scripted entertainment element. I think traditionally, the scripted entertainment elements in our industry have not been big revenue drivers in and of themselves, but where they have been of high quality, they have lifted the overall engagement of the franchise more deeply, so there's kind of a one-two punch that drives growth in the business. I think as we think about our future, we do believe that this thing that we do, that is interactive entertainment, is becoming more and more important on a daily basis to all fans, and that our fans are going to want to experience that in many different modalities and some of that might be scripted entertainment in nature. And you should expect that we're looking at any and all aspects that allow us to extend and expand our brands for our fanbase. But that we're doing it very thoughtfully, and, again, as part of our strategy, doing it profitably."
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Post by colfoley on Feb 3, 2022 5:47:20 GMT
So.
1. No new mention of anything involving the actual games themselves being in development which makes it harder to judge what that could actually mean.
2. I find it also interesting that they refer it to everything else by name and the BioWare Franchises as...the BioWare franchises. Not Dragon Age or Mass Effect. Not entirely sure what to make of it just that it always is kind of fascinating that sometimes BioWare looks like its own thing within EA...
As far as the TV shows are concerned I think Halo and the Witcher is in a bit of a unique circumstance. With Halo, as I noted within the thread, I imagine there are a far few fans of the series that really haven't played the game and are only aware of it peripherally because of its XBOX exclusive nature. For us a TV show would be a welcome opprotunity since we haven't really experienced the franchise and thus will be eager to dive in. With the Witcher its not only a game but a book, and the series EPs have been clear they are doing an adaptation of the books where the CDPR games...I think anyways...were their own quasi stories set within the Witcher world and starring Geralt.
I bring this up to demonstrate I do not think either process will work for Dragon Age, at least on a personal level, since the games are already within the visual media and already easily accessible to a wide market. Again, they should adapt background lore...somehow. Of course the issue witht his is that most of the background lore, the blights, the Qunari invasions, happened over decades if not centuries which also make them hard to adapt.
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Post by Hrungr on Feb 3, 2022 14:20:24 GMT
DRAGON AGE: THE IRON BULL STATUETTEdirect.darkhorse.com/products/dragon-age-the-iron-bull-statuette$159.99 US “Oh, would you look at that! That is magnificent!” - The Iron Bull Dark Horse Direct and BioWare are back to present the next offering in our line of exclusive Dragon Age collectibles! This time we’re bringing everyone’s favorite Qunari, The Iron Bull! Commander of the Bull’s Chargers, member of the Ben-Hassrath, and loyal to the Qun, he stands ready to embark on the next quest. The Dragon Age: Iron Bull Statuette stands at 8 inches tall, with a base measurement of 4 by 4.25 inches in diameter. Sized to scale with our Varric and upcoming Morrigan Statuettes, add THE Iron Bull to your Dragon Age collection!
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Post by Heimdall on Feb 3, 2022 16:07:09 GMT
My stance whenever the topic of a Dragon Age show comes up has been the same:
Adapting the plot of the games is a bad idea. Taking a lot of liberties with the plot of the games is a bad idea. Frankly a lot of the charm of Dragon Age storytelling comes from the interactive nature of that storytelling, fans aren’t going to connect with some character named Hawke because each of us has a different idea of that character in our heads. I also don’t particularly think telling an existing story from the lore is a good idea, though mostly because I think that would be limiting.
I think the best thing to do would be to select a place on the map during the Dragon Age (like one of the Free March cities we’ve never seen) and tell a story there revolving around a mostly new set of characters. Leverage the setting and some of the characters, not the existing narratives.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 3, 2022 18:06:18 GMT
I would say just have it take place at a different Age. That way you can avoid any of the current plot that's going on. It'll be interesting to explore the wars against the Qunari for an example.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2022 19:57:36 GMT
The franchise is called "Dragon Age" they're not going to set it in another age when ppl who've never interacted with the property are getting their first exposure to it. They're probably focusing on the Tevinter stuff right now, so I imagine anything that gets made will reflect the newest entry in the games. There are a lot of great characters from Tevinter Nights to pull from which have already been set against the current backdrop without disrupting anyone's previous worldstates (unless you killed Genitivi, I guess). Also, bringing Fenris into the comics seemed very successful. I don't see any reason not to do something similar with popular recognizable characters who are relatively open-ended storywise like Isabela or Cullen (lol make him say trans rights BioWare).
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 3, 2022 20:02:51 GMT
I think the best thing to do would be to select a place on the map during the Dragon Age (like one of the Free March cities we’ve never seen) and tell a story there revolving around a mostly new set of characters. Leverage the setting and some of the characters, not the existing narratives. They could also do stories set earlier in the Age. The Orlesian occupation of Ferelden, for example.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 3, 2022 20:13:24 GMT
Personally I wanna see an Antivan Crow based story if anything.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 3, 2022 20:14:59 GMT
Personally I wanna see an Antivan Crow based story if anything. An assassin moving through different nations, evading bandits, maleficar, templars (probably, because why not) and bears would be a good way to show off Thedas.
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Post by Hrungr on Feb 3, 2022 20:18:27 GMT
I think the best thing to do would be to select a place on the map during the Dragon Age (like one of the Free March cities we’ve never seen) and tell a story there revolving around a mostly new set of characters. Leverage the setting and some of the characters, not the existing narratives. They could also do stories set earlier in the Age. The Orlesian occupation of Ferelden, for example. I think setting it in the years between games can work just fine. Thedas is a big place with plenty going on. You just need to keep an eye on not tripping over any of the games' toes. But, plenty of NPCs could be drawn upon to keep the fans engaged. And if the TV series characters turn out to be popular, there's an easy opportunity for BW to leverage them into future game(s).
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Post by colfoley on Feb 3, 2022 20:19:53 GMT
Personally I wanna see an Antivan Crow based story if anything. An assassin moving through different nations, evading bandits, maleficar, templars (probably, because why not) and bears would be a good way to show off Thedas. Yeah after Tevinter Nights I am super intrigued by the organization now. If the option is available at least one of my DA 4 protagonists will be a crow.
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Post by Sharable Horizon on Feb 3, 2022 20:21:13 GMT
Personally I wanna see an Antivan Crow based story if anything. While that would be slick, I can see them going for a grey warden story. The blight and Thedas’ struggle against it is the background nugget that makes Thedas stand out from other fantasy worlds.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 3, 2022 20:25:48 GMT
Personally I wanna see an Antivan Crow based story if anything. While that would be slick, I can see them going for a grey warden story. The blight and Thedas’ struggle against it is the background nugget that makes Thedas stand out from other fantasy worlds. Kinda sorta. I mean the Blight is the big threat of Thedas and even though it has evolved it has always been in the background...and while there are interesting elements to it, Corypheus, the Magisters, the back story with them penetrating the Golden City and the mystery behind it all... But the Blight and Darkspawn kind of remain the least interesting thing about Thedas still. Despite all the build up they are basically orcs being led by some sort of dark lord malovolent force. Lets hope they do a better job with it then Game of Thrones did with the Night King.
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Corrine Busche @corrinebusche I often wonder if the #DragonAge fan base is aware of the positive impact y’all have on game development. Making games is a difficult, complex, often messy endeavor; Waking up each morning and seeing the stunning fan art and content you create is so energizing. (Corrine is a dev on Dragon Age.)
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 3, 2022 20:34:23 GMT
Personally I wanna see an Antivan Crow based story if anything. While that would be slick, I can see them going for a grey warden story. The blight and Thedas’ struggle against it is the background nugget that makes Thedas stand out from other fantasy worlds. I agree, but Game of Thrones is a show that existed. The Blight - like the Night King and his army - could be considered a metaphor for climate change... "The Chantry teaches us that it was the hubris of men that brought the darkspawn into the world..." There may be a sense of been there, done that if the Blight is the focus of a show.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 3, 2022 20:35:02 GMT
To expand on my previous post I think the one thing that makes Dragon Age unique for me is its sense of history. Very few franchises truly seem to permeate their world with a sense of continuity of setting and history. Sure there is back ground lore, there is prophecies and ancient demons rearing its heads awakening from the elder times in the Lord of the Rings or even the Witchers of the world...but in Dragon Age the history of Thedas and solving these ancient puzzles and discovering the True History of the Continent feels like it could be the main solution and solving the problems of current day Thedas. And given things going on IRL I can't think of a more important message for the times we live in.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 3, 2022 20:36:06 GMT
While that would be slick, I can see them going for a grey warden story. The blight and Thedas’ struggle against it is the background nugget that makes Thedas stand out from other fantasy worlds. I agree, but Game of Thrones is a show that existed. The Blight - like the Night King and his army - could be considered a metaphor for climate change... "The Chantry teaches us that it was the hubris of men that brought the darkspawn into the world..." There may be a sense of been there, done that if the Blight is the focus of a show. This makes me think to that the Blight could easily be the focus of the main game series, like the Skyalkers, the Jedi, and the Sith were such a focus for the main Star Wars movies...but look at the success of the Mandalorian.
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