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Post by colfoley on Feb 11, 2022 22:11:59 GMT
My guess? Lyrium. Would explain why they were so hell-bent on fighting the Titans for it. And we already know Lyrium can be tainted. I feel like whatever helped construct the Eluvians was also that "something else," the Inquisitor mentioned in Trespasser. It would also kind of make sense with how the Eluvians work and how they can direct one anywhere. It's as if each one is apart of a whole, the "whole" being the entire network. I mean, after completing Descent, Valta somehow leaves notes at Skyhold, even though she's deep beneath the surface. I can only imagine she gained the ability to travel by being connected to The Titan, and may have flowed with the lyrium from beneath the surface to the lyrium above the surface. It's almost like the ancient elves built their entire empire off the backs of Titans. I still can't figure out how Solas feels about that. Solas is downright curious when it comes to Dwarves and the creations they make. He feels sad for Varric about his lost culture. He even called a Titan "a mighty hero." Yet there is a big old painting of him in the deep roads titled "Death of a Titan" with his bald head in it, executing said "death." Now June was said by the Dalish to be the master-craftsman of the Creators, whilst DAI hinted that may not have accurately indicated what sort of magic he could do, although I always question how human scholars could work these things out when the Dalish couldn't. The writing we find in the Vir Dirthara described June as "Clever" and creating the eluvians and then the Crossroads would require a fair bit of ingenuity, so I wonder if it was his masterpiece. June was definitely one of those mysteries that was started in DAI and yet not solved in Trespasser despite the concentration there on elven lore, so I wonder if it is going be solved next game. I think that everything is in our face when it comes to June. A craftsman, clever, and short. June is giving dwarf. "June's role changing over time," may mean June being a child of the stone at first - maybe in the ancient war - but then went to the surface and joined the Elvhen empire for more power. I think June marrying Sylaise was purely political. June became a "god" in his own right separate from a Titan, and Sylaise used June to gain access to more lyrium. I think June may be an answer as to how Dwarves actually worked pre-veil, as there is a difference between them and Titans. maybe this is what caused his break up from the Evanuris his disillusion with the war? He did say it was a war which started the fall. Or maybe he always regretted not being able to learn more about them while fighting?
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Feb 11, 2022 22:23:03 GMT
maybe this is what caused his break up from the Evanuris his disillusion with the war? He did say it was a war which started the fall. Or maybe he always regretted not being able to learn more about them while fighting? He did say something like "Generals became kings. kings became gods", he might have supported the war initially (for all we know it was framed as necessary for survival) but eventually he saw how these people used to war to climb up the power ladder, enslaving people along the way.
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 11, 2022 23:09:54 GMT
maybe this is what caused his break up from the Evanuris his disillusion with the war? He did say it was a war which started the fall. Or maybe he always regretted not being able to learn more about them while fighting? He did say something like "Generals became kings. kings became gods", he might have supported the war initially (for all we know it was framed as necessary for survival) but eventually he saw how these people used to war to climb up the power ladder, enslaving people along the way. I remember speculating (and I don't think it's a controversial take) that he may have been someone who has helped elevate Evanuris to power, or believed in their cause (may even had personal relations with them all, not just Mythal), only for them to betray his trust in major ways. This meant he's had to struggle with realization that he's helped build something that now oppresses people and may lead to their destruction - and that this is the core of his guilt over the whole situation, not lifting the Veil (which was merely a direct effect of Evanuris doing whatever they were doing). That, in essence, would not just explain why he did what he did, but would also explain his skepticism towards large organizations and how successfully they can avoid corruption or his reluctance to, er... have friends and trust them.
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BioWare Gear Store@BioWareGear💘 Have you ever truly loved a #MassEffect or #DragonAge companion? Tell us all about it for a chance to win a $75 gift card in our Valentine’s Day Giveaway! gear.bioware.com/pages/geargiveawaycontest Something to do later...wonder if there is a word count limit otherwise I could wax quite eloquent. 'Oh Cassandra how many ways do I love thee? Let me count the ways...' Edit: drat you have to actually make a card I see. Well alas I am aboust as artistic as the Iron Bull in a china shop.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Feb 12, 2022 1:14:16 GMT
So, I'm replaying DA2, and Bartrand said something I found very interesting. When confronted in the second act he was very adamant about calling it an "idol" rather than a statue because "it wants to be worshiped". Now this could just be madness talking, but is it possible that Red Lyrium (or just Lyrium in general?) is connected to some sort of big consciousness where there's one being that's controlling anyone connected to it? And that being demands to be idolized?
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Feb 12, 2022 1:51:48 GMT
I don't think they have had 3 booster shots but that the 3rd shot was the booster. 5 shots in all would be overkill. On the DA front. I may be reading too much into this but why is the Crossroads now being illustrated as though the eluvians are infected with red lyrium? Always before they were either shown as blue, when active, or grey when deactivated but now they are red. I wouldn't read too much into the colours being used here, it's very much in keeping with his style of art: www.lazareart.com/ I may be reading too much into it too, but those trees do look like those odd purple plants present in the final fight with Corypheus, except they're red here.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 12, 2022 8:38:13 GMT
We know from what happened with Morrigan's Eluvian in Skyhold that eluvians don't necessarily leads to one specific place, and the Blight may have either 'glitched' the mirror or led to wherever it wanted to lead. So there's no reason to assume that eluvians can only lead to one location. Morrigan did mention that it would require tremendous power to have altered its destination as Kieran did, so not something that can be accomplished easily by anyone without godlike power Kieran did it, of course, whilst he was still inhabited by the soul of Urthemiel. I've often thought that if there is any connection between the Old Gods and the Creators, that Urthemiel seemed most likely to be linked with June. One had a high priest known as the Architect of Beauty, the other is known for their skill in crafting wonders. Could that be why Urthemiel was able to re-direct the eluvian, because he had been involved in its creation? Whilst Morrigan and the Qunari may have been able to "hack" individual eluvians, there is nothing to suggest they were able to re-direct them as Urthemiel did. Even Briala, whilst controlling the activation of the network, could only sense where individual eluvians led, not actually alter the destination. In fact that may even be true of Solas, although it would seem from the comic series that he is able to alter the function from travel to observation if he chooses. Oddly enough, that is what Duncan claimed they were for in DAO, when he suggested they were the work of Tevinter. So may be the ancient Vints discovered how to use them for communication visually, whilst never discovering how to use them for travel. I still maintain that that the Well Of Sorrows water lady from Temple of Mythal went INTO the Mirror (possibly re-energizing the Network) and that Mythal didn't necessarily send her power anywhere, but either energized or re-directed specific mirror(s) in the post-credit scene. Surely she didn't so much energize the network as shut down that particular eluvian so Corypheus couldn't use it. I agree she went into the mirror but was that simply to control it or to travel through the system and make contact with Mythal? It seemed to me that Mythal had left a "piece" of her in the Well at its creation. Mythal was said to have been born from water, so it seemed appropriate her spirit should take the form of water. Once the Well's purpose had been served, that freed the piece of Mythal to restore the goddess herself. Flemeth seems to have the gift of foresight, that likely came from Mythal. In such a cut throat environment as the court of the Evanuris, there may always have been the threat of assassination, which is why Mythal had Fen'Harel on hand to watch her back, but may be she did also have some premonition of her death. It seems to me that the Well was something she originally devised as a way of ensuring her return, not just bodily but the knowledge as well for knowledge is power. Which is why drinking from the Well binds you to her but at the same time releases that bit of her to alert her that the knowledge has been liberated and who the Drinker is who is now under her control. Remember Solas said: "Everything you do now, whether you know it or not, you will be doing for her." So control was clearly not limited to being in her presence.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 12, 2022 8:56:54 GMT
It's almost like the ancient elves built their entire empire off the backs of Titans. I still can't figure out how Solas feels about that. maybe this is what caused his break up from the Evanuris his disillusion with the war? He did say it was a war which started the fall. Or maybe he always regretted not being able to learn more about them while fighting? I think it is pretty clear that Solas (probably under a different name again - see Rasaan's assertion in Tevinter Nights) was likely one of the generals in that war. He says to Blackwall about how he was involved in war whilst still a cocky youth. Cole also seems to hint that someone who wanted to give "wisdom not orders" was called out of the Fade, likely to serve in that war. Maybe he was a reluctant warrior or maybe he didn't see the downside to what they did then because he was only wise about defending his People rather than looking at the bigger picture. It would seem from Trespasser that he hasn't changed much. Saving his People will always come first with him, even at the expense of other living beings and, on the face of it, the Titans were harming his People. I think that everything is in our face when it comes to June. A craftsman, clever, and short. June is giving dwarf. "June's role changing over time," may mean June being a child of the stone at first - maybe in the ancient war - but then went to the surface and joined the Elvhen empire for more power. There is something strange about June, even in the legends of the Dalish. Unlike the others, he does not have a family connection with them, as in being a child of Mythal, but instead is said to have "created himself". I don't recall any reference to him being short but thinking about it, you could be right that he had a different origin entirely from the others. Could he have been a Child of Stone who changed sides early in the war? Is that the reason he was able to work with lyrium and craft wonders from it without coming to harm? Could he have been a combination of Valta and Sandal in what he could do? That would have been a very powerful individual. That could explain why the other Evanuris allowed him equal status with them. Whatever the case, I really hope we get to the bottom of the June mystery next time. Since I am really hopeful we are going to Kal-Sharok in DA4, if your theory is correct then it could well be there that we find answers.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 12, 2022 9:11:10 GMT
That, in essence, would not just explain why he did what he did, but would also explain his skepticism towards large organizations and how successfully they can avoid corruption or his reluctance to, er... have friends and trust them Without doubt it is his past experience with people of power that has informed his opinion and made him so mistrustful of anyone's motives but his own. Once again, this is apparent when talking about using the power of the Well. If you say you will consult with others, he disapproves. He also says something about the reluctance of a group of powerful individuals to surrender power voluntarily. Felassan also makes a similar remark about powerful individuals to Briala. In the end she sees this is true with regard to Celene; she will only make concessions to the elves so long as it doesn't threaten her status as Empress, as shown by what she did in the past to acquire that position. I've always felt that Solas would far more approve of the Inquisitor who disbanded their organisation than the one who handed over that power, even in a reduced state, to the Divine. Even though the writers pretty much nullified that decision by having the Inquisition carry on regardless. Still, in either case, it would seem more of a clandestine, intelligence network rather than the overtly powerful organisation, with its own army and fortresses at its disposal that it was before.
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 12, 2022 19:37:10 GMT
We know from what happened with Morrigan's Eluvian in Skyhold that eluvians don't necessarily leads to one specific place, and the Blight may have either 'glitched' the mirror or led to wherever it wanted to lead. So there's no reason to assume that eluvians can only lead to one location. Morrigan did mention that it would require tremendous power to have altered its destination as Kieran did, so not something that can be accomplished easily by anyone without godlike power Kieran did it, of course, whilst he was still inhabited by the soul of Urthemiel. She's said that it requires tremendous power to direct it to the Fade. I'd also say that as much as Morrigan is knowledgeable, she's not the character who knows everything about anything, as proven by that whole Fade episode. One may need tremendous power... or know some forgotten tricks. But if tremendous power was indeed needed to direct things into the Fade, then I'd say that the Blight itself is a tremendous power. There's also the possibility that the Blight - like the Fade - may not just be power, but a dimension in itself, so it may lead to places it has effectively 'consumed'. Keep in mind that while Morrigan assumes that Kieran has opened the eluvian on his own, we later know that he went to meet Mythal and she definitely has both power and knowledge to direct or help Uthremiel/her grandson direct the mirror. Briala wasn't a mage, nor had resources like Qunari. She's only had a key and knew little about eluvians, save that they can connect different places. But anyway, but I was talking about this in the context of a discussion about the Blighted eluvian from Dalish origin. My point was that if people like Morrigan or Qunari - powerful and/or knowledgeable in their own right, but still mortals - can 'hack' mirrors, even in limited scope, it means that someone or someTHING (like the Blight) should be able to do more than this. Well, as with many other artifacts (the orb, those things that strengthen the veil, etc...) they can serve many functions, but only those with enough power and knowledge can use them for more than communicating or sending messages. I don't see how it couldn't do both? It's possible that with the lady in the water the network didn't just re-energize itself, but gained some level of sentience. Honestly? I think when it comes to Mythal, or maybe even Solas component in all of this (and by this I mean directing Corypheus - and us - to Temple of Mythal and so on) are primarily the eluvians. That part may indeed have been Mythal's 'horcrux' so to speak, but it probably now lives mostly in the mirrors - which also may be why Solas absorbed Mythal's power in post-credit scene. Note that from that point on he is implied to have control over the network, not Briala and her key. I mean... we did, literally, travel to the future in DAI. If we pick Mages it is effectively what has helped us thwart Corypheus and his plans. So while we know the gift of prophesy exists in DA world, it could also be that Mythal has stumbled onto some sort of terrifying future and has may have been planning accordingly ever since. True, but we don't really know what exactly he means as there are several ways this could be interpreted, while also keeping in mind we don't have a full picture of the magic system in this world.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 13, 2022 9:05:17 GMT
I mean... we did, literally, travel to the future in DAI. I never really like time travel as a plot device (outside of Doctor Who) so I would rather that one died a death with DAI, particularly as the explanation for how it worked was barking mad. If it could be confined to the Fade that would be a different story since that only involves your mind rather than the physical transfer of your body. Funnily enough, when Solas questions you about your experience he does suggest "Was it a trick of the Fade?" So it is possible that Flemeth/Mythal do get visions of past or future through the medium of the Fade, which as Solas admits may not be an exact picture but subject to the perspective of the spirit enabling it. As you say, Mythal may have had a vision of a possible future in which she died and made contingency plans to mitigate the impact and ensure her survival if it came to pass. That may have included not letting Fen'Harel know because whilst the vision showed her that she died without him to protect her, it also ensured his survival which was important to her plans. The fact that Fen'Harel was shown in the Deep Roads mine alongside Mythal suggested he was likely responsible for watching her back. Since he was shown on her left, maybe symbolism for the elves was the same as for the Divine and the left hand is the covert protector, since Mythal was powerful enough not to need a regular bodyguard to fight on her behalf. I've long argued that could be the reason for him acquiring the reputation of a trickster before he fell out of favour with Evanuris generally. The Fen'Harel statue outside her sanctuary was clearly symbolic of him as a guardian. The Dalish even recall this aspect of him, placing his statue on the edge of camp to ward off evil spirits, so even they think the scary Dread Wolf can be a useful line of defense and that somehow he is particularly effective against spirits. I think some of Solas' anguish comes from the fact that he thinks he should have been able to protect Mythal from the attack which he should have been able to see coming but if my above theory is correct, then Mythal could have been the reason he didn't and this was deliberately done to ensure his survival.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Feb 14, 2022 14:54:14 GMT
*snip* Now June was said by the Dalish to be the master-craftsman of the Creators, whilst DAI hinted that may not have accurately indicated what sort of magic he could do, although I always question how human scholars could work these things out when the Dalish couldn't. *more snipping* Quite possibly from records in Tevinter. We know Tevinter's magical technology is largely drawn from Elvhen magical technology, courtesy of several of Dorian and Solas' banters. We know the Elvhen had a written language, courtesy of the Temple of Mythal. I think it's quite possible that Tevinter holds some ancient records of elves, either as artifacts left by the Elvhen or as oral records taken from enslaved elves after the final defeat of Arlathan and written down by ancient Tevinter historians or scholars. Of course neither the Dalish nor the city elves would have access to any records like that if they exist. As to why we haven't stumbled across them as codices yet - I doubt any Tevinter with power who wishes to be taken seriously would have troubled themselves with Elvhen history before now. Now, however, with an ancient elf on the loose and threatening everybody, maybe we'll see some ancient Elvhen records come to light in DA4.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 14, 2022 19:04:25 GMT
Quite possibly from records in Tevinter. We know Tevinter's magical technology is largely drawn from Elvhen magical technology, courtesy of several of Dorian and Solas' banters. We know the Elvhen had a written language, courtesy of the Temple of Mythal. I think it's quite possible that Tevinter holds some ancient records of elves, either as artifacts left by the Elvhen or as oral records taken from enslaved elves after the final defeat of Arlathan and written down by ancient Tevinter historians or scholars. Of course neither the Dalish nor the city elves would have access to any records like that if they exist. It may well be that Tevinter holds a lot of secrets about the elves. I always thought it odd how reluctant they were to attack the city in Arlathan Forest in the first place. People were disappearing for decades and they even lost a peaceful delegation to elven aggression but it took a change of Archon before they finally took action. I often wonder if the previous Archon(s) were so reluctant because they were wary of what they might be getting themselves into, so as long as the elves seemed content to confine their aggression to intruders to the forest, the Archon(s) were happy to leave well alone. As it is, when Tevinter did finally attack, the elves fought them to standstill and dangerously drained their military resources, encouraging rebellion elsewhere, which is why the Archon decided on drastic action to end the stalemate. I'm also convinced that Kal-Sharok knew something too and didn't want elves on the loose again, which is why they destroyed Cad'Halash for taking in the elven refugees. Still, my skepticism still stands concerning human scholars because these were meant to be either Chantry scholars or those from the university of Orlais. Whilst some Vints appear to have been welcome to study in the south, like Felix, on the whole relations have always been somewhat antagonistic between Tevinter and Orlais and I doubt the northerners would have given southern scholars free access to their ancient archives in case they unearthed secrets they could used against them. So my query about how southern scholars acquired this knowledge still remains.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Feb 15, 2022 0:42:54 GMT
I think some of Solas' anguish comes from the fact that he thinks he should have been able to protect Mythal from the attack which he should have been able to see coming but if my above theory is correct, then Mythal could have been the reason he didn't and this was deliberately done to ensure his survival. Okay am I the only one that suspects that Solas had more to do with Mythal's death than he's willing to admit? I would not be surprised if he just "let" Mythal die. I did the same to Celene, and he comforted me afterward saying that "some sacrifices are necessary." He suspiciously says that a lot, actually. He also literally killed Flemythal at the end of DAI because "The People need him." Wasn't that also the reason why he raised The Veil? And I think it would speak to how a powerful being like Mythal ended up "dying." I don't think Mythal can necessarily tell the future, but she can certainly read people, which lends itself to that power of foresight. I think Mythal may have been wrong about Solas, which is why she feels so betrayed, because he was suppose to protect her, and he didn't so she died. There's also this from Trespasser: “One sees the hunter, one flees from it, one hunts it in turn, one outwits them all.” From the statues these are read from (Owl, Halla, Dragon, Wolf) and with their coinciding Elven gods it would assumingly translate to: "Falon'Din sees Andruil(?), Ghili'nain flees from her, Mythal hunts her in turn, and The Wolf outwits them all." So from that, I take it that Solas let them fight it out themselves, but had a plan all along to end The Evanuris reign, including Mythal's.
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Post by Beerfish on Feb 15, 2022 2:48:56 GMT
At least Solas did not take my face punching arm.
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 15, 2022 4:50:24 GMT
I think some of Solas' anguish comes from the fact that he thinks he should have been able to protect Mythal from the attack which he should have been able to see coming but if my above theory is correct, then Mythal could have been the reason he didn't and this was deliberately done to ensure his survival. Okay am I the only one that suspects that Solas had more to do with Mythal's death than he's willing to admit? I would not be surprised if he just "let" Mythal die. I did the same to Celene, and he comforted me afterward saying that "some sacrifices are necessary." He suspiciously says that a lot, actually. He also literally killed Flemythal at the end of DAI because "The People need him." Wasn't that also the reason why he raised The Veil? And I think it would speak to how a powerful being like Mythal ended up "dying." I don't think Mythal can necessarily tell the future, but she can certainly read people, which lends itself to that power of foresight. I think Mythal may have been wrong about Solas, which is why she feels so betrayed, because he was suppose to protect her, and he didn't so she died. There's also this from Trespasser: “One sees the hunter, one flees from it, one hunts it in turn, one outwits them all.” From the statues these are read from (Owl, Halla, Dragon, Wolf) and with their coinciding Elven gods it would assumingly translate to: "Falon'Din sees Andruil(?), Ghili'nain flees from her, Mythal hunts her in turn, and The Wolf outwits them all." So from that, I take it that Solas let them fight it out themselves, but had a plan all along to end The Evanuris reign, including Mythal's. We don't really know what happened, but I find Solas killing Mythal unlikely, because the implication so far is that the death of Mythal has either empowered Evanuris or emboldened them, which made Solas lift the Veil as the last resort before Evanuris did something awful. I mean, unless the suggestion is that Solas wanted to create the inciting incident in order to justify lifting the Veil (in this case why wouldn't he just... do this?) , I don't see why he'd kill her back then. There could also be a scenario in which Mythal orders him to kill her (or Mythal sacrifices herself given that she sees no way out and forces Fen'Harel's hand with the Veil), but that again clashes with what Solas has said in Trespasser, where he paints the death of Mythal as a moment where things began falling apart. Also, wasn't there a dev note or dev comment saying that Flemythal has given her power to Solas willingly (under the condition he'd transfer the power to Morrigan, eventually)? Oh, and Solas 'outwitting them all' may have been a reference to him lifting the Veil, but may also to general character as the god, as viewed by the ancient elves - I mean, unless the suggestion is that Falon'Din spies (?) on Andruil and Ghilan'nan runs from Andruil for some reason and Mythal hunts Andruil, I think it may tell us something about their personalities (the spy, the hunter, the bigger hunter and the trickster), rather than a story in the guise of a riddle.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 15, 2022 6:30:54 GMT
The same Sera who keeps calling you Inky?! Not thanks.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Feb 15, 2022 7:23:13 GMT
I mean, unless the suggestion is that Solas wanted to create the inciting incident in order to justify lifting the Veil (in this case why wouldn't he just... do this?) , I don't see why he'd kill her back then. You know, Solas did seem surprised in The Trespasser DLC at their audacity to murder her. The ambiguity of their relationship is what intrigues me, and I know there's something sinister about Solas waiting to be revealed (if his plan wasn't sinister enough.) And I also think that though they were allies (during two separate points - in the early days before the Evanuris and after he broke away from her servitude), there is definitely a difference in ideas; and both their convictions are powerful at that. I kind of wonder if that separation of ideas took reality when Solas raised the veil? Also, wasn't there a dev note or dev comment saying that Flemythal has given her power to Solas willingly (under the condition he'd transfer the power to Morrigan, eventually)? Yeah, that's out there. If true, that's a very interesting bargain. Oh, and Solas 'outwitting them all' may have been a reference to him lifting the Veil, but may also to general character as the god, as viewed by the ancient elves - I mean, unless the suggestion is that Falon'Din spies (?) on Andruil and Ghilan'nan runs from Andruil for some reason and Mythal hunts Andruil, I think it may tell us something about their personalities (the spy, the hunter, the bigger hunter and the trickster), rather than a story in the guise of a riddle. There is a codex entry which states Mythal hunted Andruil, and given the named Evanuris in the riddle, the dymainc at play here makes sense. I think Falon'Din sees Andruil in that he knows her as a hunter and how powerful she is because they are the only Evanuris mentioned to be involved with the same type of magic - Void stuff, which is likely blight stuff. So if Andruil is the only Evanuris truly messing with blight magic besides Falon'Din, then Falon'Din "seeing the hunter" could tranlsate to that. Especially if she was using Red Lyrium as suggested. He'd rather watch from afar. I think Ghili'nain was an opportunist, and used Andruil to get her way into The Evanuris. Andruil found out what she was up to and retaliated. There's nothing to really support this, but there is a suspicious painting of a bear (one of Dirthamen's animals) protecting a painted white woman with antlers. It's in the Hinterlands, directly below a Dirthamen statue.* Maybe she fled to Dirthamen? Only to backstab him too (ahem.) I think it all directly relates to power in which Fen'Harel took away from all of them, like lifting the veil as you said. (side note: apologies if this discussion is derailing the thread, I can honestly talk about Dragon Age forever there's just not a lot of tweets happening rn.)
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