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Post by Sanunes on May 22, 2022 6:22:01 GMT
At the same time the release window for the first three games is also less then the development window for Dragon Age: Origins as well. I rather have a game that gets the time it needs then to have something shoved down the pipeline because people say its been too long. Then we have repeated the past and not learned from the mistakes so plenty other lessons won't be learned. Considering Inquisition was developed in that timeframe and it is far better than Origins, that’s not really an argument. Especially since a lot of that time for Origins was creating everything in the universe from scratch, which doesn’t apply here. Opinion on what game is better is personal taste for I have seen the opposite opinion stated here. I am pretty sure they are still having to make plenty of lore building and building new lore, it might not be as much, but it would also have to fit within what is already there.
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Post by Sartoz on May 22, 2022 15:26:13 GMT
Almost an entire decade (as in a few months shy) between games, when the first three games all came out within half that time. At the same time the release window for the first three games is also less then the development window for Dragon Age: Origins as well. I rather have a game that gets the time it needs then to have something shoved down the pipeline because people say its been too long. Then we have repeated the past and not learned from the mistakes so plenty other lessons won't be learned.
EA has some blood in its hands (delay wise), when it announced a switch from a live service game to a real stand alone RPG.. Mind, the studio's management's mismanagement is also to blame for delays. I can understand when the publisher announces "enough is enough" and the game is launched with a shyte load of bugs. But, too many different game platforms also compounds the bug problem.
In the end, I too like a solid game when DA4 is launched.
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Post by Sartoz on May 22, 2022 15:52:35 GMT
At the same time the release window for the first three games is also less then the development window for Dragon Age: Origins as well. I rather have a game that gets the time it needs then to have something shoved down the pipeline because people say its been too long. Then we have repeated the past and not learned from the mistakes so plenty other lessons won't be learned. Considering Inquisition was developed in that timeframe and it is far better than Origins, that’s not really an argument. Especially since a lot of that time for Origins was creating everything in the universe from scratch, which doesn’t apply here.
Hm... I much prefer DA:O and DA2 over DA:I.
Take banter. Origins' was fabulous and so was DA2's. Inquisition's suffered from repeated banter dialogue and from the no banter trigger bug. The point here is that liking a game is subjective.
My projected game launch date is 4th Q 2023. Feakingly disappointed will I be if the studio develops DA4 with FB. Bio had all kinds of problems with it, including Anthem. DA4's dev time should be shorter than DA:I 'cause the game has a plethora of game objects that DA4 can use, cutting the artists' developing time.
Yes, they now have the tools for the job (or so they said). Yet, we are still looking at 2023. Imagine if they did not have these tools.
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Post by Hrungr on May 22, 2022 19:51:48 GMT
Derivel @derively Around 2010 both DA and ME were in production at the same time. Did games become so much more complex, or simply there isn't enough people to keep up this 2-years cycle?
Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah Both. DA2 was made with a small team in a compressed period. Also steams are bigger.
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I believe we mean “teams,” not “steams.”
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Post by Sanunes on May 23, 2022 2:12:12 GMT
Considering Inquisition was developed in that timeframe and it is far better than Origins, that’s not really an argument. Especially since a lot of that time for Origins was creating everything in the universe from scratch, which doesn’t apply here.
Hm... I much prefer DA:O and DA2 over DA:I.
Take banter. Origins' was fabulous and so was DA2's. Inquisition's suffered from repeated banter dialogue and from the no banter trigger bug. The point here is that liking a game is subjective.
My projected game launch date is 4th Q 2023. Feakingly disappointed will I be if the studio develops DA4 with FB. Bio had all kinds of problems with it, including Anthem. DA4's dev time should be shorter than DA:I 'cause the game has a plethora of game objects that DA4 can use, cutting the artists' developing time.
Yes, they now have the tools for the job (or so they said). Yet, we are still looking at 2023. Imagine if they did not have these tools.
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Derivel @derivelyAround 2010 both DA and ME were in production at the same time. Did games become so much more complex, or simply there isn't enough people to keep up this 2-years cycle? Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrahBoth. DA2 was made with a small team in a compressed period. Also steams are bigger. Reminded me of this lol:
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Post by Solas on May 23, 2022 10:30:07 GMT
Caitie @ GhilDirthalenHoly shit, I can't believe I can make this update, but the Dragon Age ride has been found... in the UK! I got a reddit comment on an old post from the ride operator, and it seems Fantasy Island bought the ride! www.fantasyislandresort.co.uk/rides-and-attractions/the-guardian/(context: the dragon age theme park ride has turned up/been found, or at least what's left of it after being un-dragon-age'd )Caitie @ GhilDirthalenPer the reddit comment, they have taken out a lot of the Dragon Age stuff from the ride, but still use the same in-ride movie! So hey UK peeps, any one want to give it a go? Caitie @ GhilDirthalenDude said the use the same movie in the ride, so I'm thinking the pre-ride movie is gone (it was a lot of world building for Thedas), and more obvious DA props that decorated the place are gone. But they kept the dragon! Omg that’s nuts, I just finished watching this and then went to check twitter!! Gonna reach out to this guy to see if the in ride movie is the same! Caitie @ GhilDirthalenI got in contact with a YT channel that talks about UK theme park rides who had ridden this new version! In short, confirmed for same inride movie, but may have small cuts to it Here is a link to their video on it that shows the decorations! Keep in eye out in the video for a few DA decor! I've spotted four from the old ride (And maybe the barrels are from there too, but idk.) But I might has missed! Sort of wish they kept the random ass well though lol (link:
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Post by Solas on May 23, 2022 10:37:12 GMT
Gamers For Groceries (https://twitter.com/GamersGroceries) 4 is coming up soon on May 28th 3pm EDT. 1pm MDT, 12pm PDT. this is a Twitch show/stream, a game dev variety show organized by game devs in Edmonton, which is for charity and raises money for a good cause, Food Banks Canada. it has stuff like interviews and trivia in it and streams on Twitch at /gamersforgroceries In previous GFGs some BioWare devs have taken part and done some fun/interesting panels/roundtables/interviews and Q&As and stuff. not sure that the specific guestlist and schedule for this one has been posted yet but sharing here to let folks know, these are fun events for a good cause
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big al @zestygamergirl do you ever think about how dragon age 4 is actually being made like it's actually going to happen, it's real there's really going to be MORE dragon age 😭😭😭🤧 like we're so lucky and I'm so excited 🥺
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François-Xavier Labescat @arathaur (Associate Producer) Bit of news! I started my new adventure last week. Thrilled to be back at @ea and join @bioware to work on @dragonage!
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Derivel @derivelyAround 2010 both DA and ME were in production at the same time. Did games become so much more complex, or simply there isn't enough people to keep up this 2-years cycle? Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrahBoth. DA2 was made with a small team in a compressed period. Also steams are bigger. Reminded me of this lol: Perfect! Biower has been "a house on fire" for a very long time now. Complete with the inane denials, obfuscations, and excuses. Example, see Darrah's equivocation above...
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Post by Hrungr on May 24, 2022 16:22:38 GMT
Mark just released a pretty interesting video on video game company acquisitions and mergers.
He spends a fair bit of time discussing EA (and others "on the market") and what large companies might be looking for in an acq/merger as well as the potential fallout.
For example, say Disney did acquire EA...
1. Would Disney be interested in continuing Mass Effect when it has Star Wars?
2. Would they even be interested in creating M-Rated games, which could impact Dragon Age as well?
Mark also went on a bit of a tangent with Elon Musk (who loves ME). He could conceivably pry away the ME license from EA, buy a smaller studio (like Humanhead), then control the IP for... relatively cheap.
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Post by Ravenfeeder on May 24, 2022 16:53:55 GMT
I'd prefer Bezos to Musk and I really don't want Bezos having control over any Bioware IP. In fact I don't want any narcissistic, egotistical billionaire in control.
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How about we prefer neither billionaires please?
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Post by Sanunes on May 24, 2022 22:08:27 GMT
Mark just released a pretty interesting video on video game company acquisitions and mergers. He spends a fair bit of time discussing EA (and others "on the market") and what large companies might be looking for in an acq/merger as well as the potential fallout. For example, say Disney did acquire EA... 1. Would Disney be interested in continuing Mass Effect when it has Star Wars? 2. Would they even be interested in creating M-Rated games, which could impact Dragon Age as well? Mark also went on a bit of a tangent with Elon Musk (who loves ME). He could conceivably pry away the ME license from EA, buy a smaller studio (like Humanhead), then control the IP for... relatively cheap. What I find interesting is that he felt that EA has always been up for sale, this just might have been the closest in awhile. In some ways its a lot like the reports I have read from the doctors with a lot of offers to buy BioWare before they decided to take the path to sell the company to a venture capital fund.
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Gamers for Groceries @gamersgroceriesTune in this Saturday and join Bioware writers @patrickweekes @sherylchee and Luke Kristjanson and editor @karinweekes as they come up with compelling missions on the spot based on wild suggestions!
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elle tchi 💙💛 @elenatchi things i’ve typed at work today “so i figured it out, the system to make them thicc was being overwritten”
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Apologies for the side tangent on this but... Hrungr, how long have you been moderating for?
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Apologies for the side tangent on this but... Hrungr, how long have you been moderating for? I'm just trying to think of a time in which I DIDNT see you as a moderator, and I've been with the UBSN boards since the blowup of the original one. Plot twist... I've never been a mod on this forum or BSN Prime! I have some admin-like powers, but I'm not actually moderating here. Honestly, I'm just too busy to take on that role as well.
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Post by biggydx on May 25, 2022 20:32:21 GMT
Apologies for the side tangent on this but... Hrungr, how long have you been moderating for? I'm just trying to think of a time in which I DIDNT see you as a moderator, and I've been with the UBSN boards since the blowup of the original one. Plot twist... I've never been a mod on this forum or BSN Prime! I have some admin-like powers, but I'm not actually moderating here. Honestly, I'm just too busy to take on that role as well. I think it's the frequency of your activity here that gave me the impression. I honestly dont know how you keep up tbh
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Post by colfoley on May 25, 2022 20:34:32 GMT
Hrungr is secretly a small country located somewhere in Europe completely dedicated to posting about BioWare and related video games.
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