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At this point I'm convinced there isn't a Hrungr, I think they are multiple people working together for the benefit of everything Bioware.
My first thought was he was actually a special forces squad but making him a country sounded so much more dramatic and to the point given his omni-present nature.
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Even better given their passing similarity Hrungr is probably SCP 682 who is probably posting about BioWare in his spare time in Foundation containment because he has nothing better to do.
At this point I'm convinced there isn't a Hrungr, I think they are multiple people working together for the benefit of everything Bioware.
Remember the time Patrick Weekes actually tweeted out that they believed Hrungr was a bot? Because Weekes tweeted, refreshed their browser and Hrungr had already posted it?
That was entertaining. I actually don't even remember if that was here or on BSN Prime, though...
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At this point I'm convinced there isn't a Hrungr, I think they are multiple people working together for the benefit of everything Bioware.
Remember the time Patrick Weekes actually tweeted out that they believed Hrungr was a bot? Because Weekes tweeted, refreshed their browser and Hrungr had already posted it?
That was entertaining. I actually don't even remember if that was here or on BSN Prime, though...
That would've been on Prime, during the crazy days... We haven't quite hit that level of insanity here.
Remember the time Patrick Weekes actually tweeted out that they believed Hrungr was a bot? Because Weekes tweeted, refreshed their browser and Hrungr had already posted it?
That was entertaining. I actually don't even remember if that was here or on BSN Prime, though...
That would've been on Prime, during the crazy days... We haven't quite hit that level of insanity here.
Yet.
"Kneel before the Lord Dragon, or you will be knelt." 21 Feb 2019 at 6:59am - It has not been forgotten. It will not be forgiven. We've now met seven times... Revenge is ice cream - Serza, April 2020 Also known as Mike, David, Scott or Bruce
🏴 Autumn Witch 👭 @dragon_Age_Fans I'm petty sure they know we expect this now so they won't do it. 🤔Or they know that we know we expect this now and they'll do just to fake us out. #DragonAge
Blair Thorburn @oiblair Well now we know that you know to expect it, and that a fake out would be expected, so the fake out could be a fake out. Or not... 🤔
or a website needed ad revenue and they decided to make some conclusions based on rumors and internet speculation knowing BioWare gets them those precious clicks.
I have become jaded over the years. Thanks internet.
It's actually been a meme for years within the fandom that DA4 is going to have a morally dubious mage that will probably end up manipulating or betraying you because of Morrigan in DAO, Anders in DA2 and Solas in DAI. So games journalists are now writing meme articles based on a joke not even Tumblr thinks is funny anymore. Nothing new under the sun, I guess.
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Thing is while this is certainly humorous I hope no one is taking this too seriously. Solas was an 'antagonist' in Inquisition for like what? Ten minutes? And Morrigan while certainly having an alterior motive was never overtly antagonistic, nor an especially bad guy, against the Warden and their objectives either. Only one that seems to match this thought experiment would be Anders though even then that might be stretching it a little. His antagonism towards Hawke represents a far larger percentage of his game, his actions were much more directly and overtly antagonistic and dramatic within the context of the game and thanks to Justice he really was working against Hawke's interests far longer then Solas was...so yeah he is the only one which comes close to meeting the bill.
Though I must say I don't think they will dip into the 'mage with alterior motives' trope for a fourth time in a row...but I suppose anything is possible.
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Solas was an 'antagonist' in Inquisition for like what? Ten minutes?
That sounds about right if we are talking about the last 10 minutes of the optional Trespasser DLC of course.
Only one that seems to match this thought experiment would be Anders though even then that might be stretching it a little. His antagonism towards Hawke represents a far larger percentage of his game, his actions were much more directly and overtly antagonistic and dramatic within the context of the game and thanks to Justice he really was working against Hawke's interests far longer then Solas was...so yeah he is the only one which comes close to meeting the bill.
For me is more Justice / Vengeance as the antagonist than Anders. But who knows Anders DA 2 author Jennifer Hepler proposed (which was thank god rejected) that Anders was never possessed by Justice himself but some other demon and that the real Awakening Justice is in Kristoffs body.
Solas was an 'antagonist' in Inquisition for like what? Ten minutes?
That sounds about right if we are talking about the last 10 minutes of the optional Trespasser DLC of course.
Only one that seems to match this thought experiment would be Anders though even then that might be stretching it a little. His antagonism towards Hawke represents a far larger percentage of his game, his actions were much more directly and overtly antagonistic and dramatic within the context of the game and thanks to Justice he really was working against Hawke's interests far longer then Solas was...so yeah he is the only one which comes close to meeting the bill.
For me is more Justice / Vengeance as the antagonist than Anders. But who knows Anders DA 2 author Jennifer Hepler proposed (which was thank god rejected) that Anders was never possessed by Justice himself but some other demon and that the real Awakening Justice is in Kristoffs body.
especially given its optional nature makes it even more aprrepro but been musing a lot lately in my case I think given Tresspasser is pretty much the only reason I'm probably as interested in the sequel as I am. Call it a tease, call it a cliff hanger, I'd imagine I'd be interested and keeping up with news but I doubt I'd be as focused hanging on every tweet without it.
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If I had a euro for each mage companion that turned out to have ulterior motives and manipulated me for their own ends, I'd have 3 euro. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened this many times now. At this point, having a mage companion that deserves you giving them the stink eye on subsequent playthroughs is a staple of the series. Also a meme.
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Only one that seems to match this thought experiment would be Anders though even then that might be stretching it a little. His antagonism towards Hawke represents a far larger percentage of his game, his actions were much more directly and overtly antagonistic and dramatic within the context of the game and thanks to Justice he really was working against Hawke's interests far longer then Solas was...
I suppose it depends on how you define "antagonist". For a start off, if Solas doesn't approve of you, his speeches can be just as antagonistic towards the Inquisitor as Anders was towards Hawke, in fact at times more so. I never experienced this rhetoric personally in game but had to surf You Tube or other sites giving transcripts to find it. However, it was there and really demonstrates that his apparent helpfulness and approval was merely part of his strategy to achieve his ultimate aim, which was to recover his orb. Which leads on to my second point, had the orb not been destroyed in that final battle with Corypheus then we would never have had that conversation in Trespasser. By his own admission, his plan was to recover his orb, enter the Fade, tear down the Veil and plunge the world into chaos, whilst he "reshaped reality". He was the bad guy hiding in plain sight; he was always using you to advance his own agenda, just as Anders did and for that matter, just as Morrigan did. With the other two you at least get the option to turn them down. With Solas you are simply working along a parallel path of stopping Corypheus, much as with Morrigan you are working along the parallel path of stopping the Blight, but at least her hidden agenda wasn't ultimately meant to lead to the end of the world as we knew it. That was his original aim, so from that point of view, he was the antagonist, we just didn't know it at the time and, since his original plan failed, he is still the antagonist.
I think given Tresspasser is pretty much the only reason I'm probably as interested in the sequel as I am. Call it a tease, call it a cliff hanger, I'd imagine I'd be interested and keeping up with news but I doubt I'd be as focused hanging on every tweet without it.
I couldn´t care less about the Solas threat because its the same story again. Some lunatic wants to destroy the world and of course at the end the player stops him. The reason why i on the other hand am still interessed in besides some returning characters is the much more interessing conflict between Tevinter and the Qunari.
Edit: By the way am i the only one who thinks that Calpernia could be for DA 4 our mage companion who has also her own agenda at the end?
Thing is while this is certainly humorous I hope no one is taking this too seriously. Solas was an 'antagonist' in Inquisition for like what? Ten minutes? And Morrigan while certainly having an alterior motive was never overtly antagonistic, nor an especially bad guy, against the Warden and their objectives either. Only one that seems to match this thought experiment would be Anders though even then that might be stretching it a little. His antagonism towards Hawke represents a far larger percentage of his game, his actions were much more directly and overtly antagonistic and dramatic within the context of the game and thanks to Justice he really was working against Hawke's interests far longer then Solas was...so yeah he is the only one which comes close to meeting the bill.
Though I must say I don't think they will dip into the 'mage with alterior motives' trope for a fourth time in a row...but I suppose anything is possible.
Morrigan manipulates the Warden for the Dark Ritual. Whether or not it works is irrelevant, she tries to do it and is very adamant with her arguments. She also just buggers off if she doesn't get what she wants. Anders manipulates Hawke to blow up a Chantry. Whether or not Hawke goes along to the very end after noticing something is off is irrelevant, Anders tries his best to lie to Hawke and then guilt trips them with the "you don't care about us after all" argument. Classy. Solas manipulates the Inquisitor from the very beginning because all he ultimately wants is to get the orb back. Whether or not he likes the Inquisitor is irrelevant, he still lies constantly and once the orb is destroyed, he buggers off without a word to find another way to bring the Veil down.
Manipulation isn't manipulation only when it's successful or obvious. A character who doesn't realize what they're doing or worse, they realize what they're doing and still does it, is still antagonistic or, at the very least, morally compromised. Such a character could be redeemed if they realize what they did and make an active choice to not do it again and make amends. Anders and Solas ain't there, the only one sort of on the way there is Morrigan.
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Don’t pay any attention to Gamerant. I think the writers for that site get paid a nickel per article, so they have to churn out as much clickbait as they can to pay for their monthly gram of crystal meth.
Don’t pay any attention to Gamerant. I think the writers for that site get paid a nickel per article, so they have to churn out as much clickbait as they can to pay for their monthly gram of crystal meth.
Even so, it was an interesting perspective. However, one aspect of our mage antagonists that was common to all 3 games, was that they were apostates in a part of Thedas where mages were strictly controlled by those in power and whose actions didn't exactly help the case for greater freedoms. DA4 is different because we are now heading north, with much of the action probably revolving around Tevinter, where mages have the power and it is the mundanes who are at the bottom of the pecking order, often suffering as a result.
So, may be this time round the companion with the hidden agenda will be a non-mage and the idea is not just to stop Solas but to bring about the downfall of all mages. The Viddasala was researching a way to strengthen the Veil and the Qunari still seem to be continuing their magical research. What if Rasaan's interest in Solas' true name is to give her power over him to do her bidding? What about that group of individuals in Tevinter led by the Viper, who appears to have magic nullifying abilities similar to those of southern Templars? What if they thought that strengthening the Veil would lead to the downfall of the Magisters?
To be honest, though, I am going to be suspicious of everyone, so betrayal will not come as a surprise, it will be expected.
Twitter-related mini-drama: there's a few BioWare fans (ME and DA) reacting to this tweet, which they say comes off as a teeny bit aggressive. (BioWare BETTER show up?)
GameSpot @gamespot With Dragon Age 4 and Mass Effect 5 both in development, BioWare better show up to Summer Game Fest or Not-E3 with some good news. Here's what we know:
Twitter-related mini-drama: there's a few BioWare fans (ME and DA) reacting to this tweet, which they say comes off as a teeny bit aggressive. (BioWare BETTER show up?)
GameSpot @gamespot With Dragon Age 4 and Mass Effect 5 both in development, BioWare better show up to Summer Game Fest or Not-E3 with some good news. Here's what we know:
I mean it'd always be nice but my only expectation is that they BETTER show up only when they feel comfortable with sharing information and the information they show is indicitive of what we will be getting in the game.
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So, may be this time round the companion with the hidden agenda will be a non-mage and the idea is not just to stop Solas but to bring about the downfall of all mages. The Viddasala was researching a way to strengthen the Veil and the Qunari still seem to be continuing their magical research. What if Rasaan's interest in Solas' true name is to give her power over him to do her bidding? What about that group of individuals in Tevinter led by the Viper, who appears to have magic nullifying abilities similar to those of southern Templars? What if they thought that strengthening the Veil would lead to the downfall of the Magisters?
I like it but for my idea i alter this a bit. It should be no surprise to no one that we very likely have a grey warden companion and he / she (seems unlikely) is our trouble maker this time because he so determined in fighting the Blight. I am thinking (of a way more) extreme version of Duncan. Who said that companions should be all likeable?
Also after several recruits and a fake one with a romanticize view on wards it´s time for one in his prime who is a calculated scumbag.
Twitter-related mini-drama: there's a few BioWare fans (ME and DA) reacting to this tweet, which they say comes off as a teeny bit aggressive. (BioWare BETTER show up?)
GameSpot @gamespot With Dragon Age 4 and Mass Effect 5 both in development, BioWare better show up to Summer Game Fest or Not-E3 with some good news. Here's what we know:
To be honest it is an aggressive tweet, but its not like a place like GameSpot is that good of a news site.
Frankly I don't care about BioWare telling me about the game or not, I just want a good game when I am playing it. They can demonstrate it all they want and act like some kind of performer to jump through the hoops of edgelords like the ones from that tweet, but at the end of the day what they show there means nothing for it will all be for the show and be manufactured for the event. Just like other games where the content they demonstrated to the press and other preview content didn't match up to the final game.