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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Feb 9, 2019 0:20:48 GMT
I saw a video about The Grim Anatomy from Ghil Dirthalen, about possession and it’s effect on the blood of the subject, and I’m wondering if the taint is actually just the aftermath of a possession attempt/success on a titan. Mages who get possessed and turn into abominations have strange biological results like growing in height or bulbous cancerous growths. I can only imagine how weird a spirit of the fade possessing a creature who reinforces the nature of reality could get; Corrupting their blood, resulting in red lyrium, that then snowballs to corrupting it’s dwarves, etc etc till we have the situation we’re in now. The grim anatomy vid for reference: Hold on, would that make Andruil’s “armor of the void”... a whole entire titan that she piloted around like a mech suit? Because if so, this is my new favorite theory. Serious answer, I was thinking perhaps the sun from Elgar’nan’s stories or one of the forgotten ones are the possessors. But mecha-Andruil vs dragon-Mythal is an excellent visual, I have to admit. Lol Edit also I linked the wrong video in that original post. I meant this one.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 9, 2019 2:14:16 GMT
At this point, I'm 100% certain that the taint, and the original darkspawn, come from a Titan, or multiple Titans, and that they existed before the veil. I saw a video about The Grim Anatomy from Ghil Dirthalen, about possession and it’s effect on the blood of the subject, and I’m wondering if the taint is actually just the aftermath of a possession attempt/success on a titan. Mages who get possessed and turn into abominations have strange biological results like growing in height or bulbous cancerous growths. I can only imagine how weird a spirit of the fade possessing a creature who reinforces the nature of reality could get; Corrupting their blood, resulting in red lyrium, that then snowballs to corrupting it’s dwarves, etc etc till we have the situation we’re in now. EDIT: whoops! Wrong vid. It was this one. My theory is a lot simpler: that it's an automatic response to a grievous wound. The titan it stems from may not even have any control over its spread. We don't have any proof that they think or act anything like us, after all.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Feb 9, 2019 2:52:36 GMT
I saw a video about The Grim Anatomy from Ghil Dirthalen, about possession and it’s effect on the blood of the subject, and I’m wondering if the taint is actually just the aftermath of a possession attempt/success on a titan. Mages who get possessed and turn into abominations have strange biological results like growing in height or bulbous cancerous growths. I can only imagine how weird a spirit of the fade possessing a creature who reinforces the nature of reality could get; Corrupting their blood, resulting in red lyrium, that then snowballs to corrupting it’s dwarves, etc etc till we have the situation we’re in now. EDIT: whoops! Wrong vid. It was this one. My theory is a lot simpler: that it's an automatic response to a grievous wound. The titan it stems from may not even have any control over its spread. We don't have any proof that they think or act anything like us, after all. Also a possibility. Or the taint could have perverted the autoimmune response (which was normally just untainted dwarf drones taking care of the injury) and that’s why it’s spread beyond the titan itself. Instead of the taint itself being the autoimmune response, I mean, which seems like it is what you were saying above. But either could be a possibility still. I totally see where you are coming from though. There’s no way for me to ignore how similar the dark spawn reproduction process mirrors a virus and that similarity just has always made me think “biology plays a role here”.
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Post by warden on Feb 9, 2019 20:26:19 GMT
just the thought that I will have to see this character again, makes me have emo issues.
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Post by Walter Black on Feb 11, 2019 21:55:15 GMT
My theory is a lot simpler: that it's an automatic response to a grievous wound. The titan it stems from may not even have any control over its spread. We don't have any proof that they think or act anything like us, after all. Also a possibility. Or the taint could have perverted the autoimmune response (which was normally just untainted dwarf drones taking care of the injury) and that’s why it’s spread beyond the titan itself. Instead of the taint itself being the autoimmune response, I mean, which seems like it is what you were saying above. But either could be a possibility still. I totally see where you are coming from though. There’s no way for me to ignore how similar the dark spawn reproduction process mirrors a virus and that similarity just has always made me think “biology plays a role here”. I've begun to expect that the Blight is more akin to cancer, on life or reality itself. Maybe no one created it, it was simply inborn, like how many people carry dormant diseases.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 12, 2019 18:37:38 GMT
I've begun to expect that the Blight is more akin to cancer, on life or reality itself. Maybe no one created it, it was simply inborn, like how many people carry dormant diseases. This could be the case but when we are at the Temple of Sacred Ashes and Varric questions how the red lyrium got there, Solas mutters in the background that it could be the result of magic. I took from this that the enormous magical energy released during the explosion corrupted the lyrium in the mountain. Then Bianca told us that red lyrium is an organic substance infected with the Blight and in the Descent told us that lyrium is the blood of titans. Putting all these together, it seemed more likely to me that magic used by the Evanuris to subdue the Titans ultimately corrupted one of them, creating red lyrium and indirectly the Blight. So, like the Veil, it is apparently not something natural but caused by ancient elven magic. The conclusion I drew from Trespasser is that everything bad in the world is the responsibility of the ancient elves; not something I'm thrilled about but that is the way the clues were pointing.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Feb 12, 2019 18:56:48 GMT
I took it to mean that bits of Corypheus (and grey wrdens, I suppose?) hit the lyrium already present in the mountain when the explosion happened and infected it then. The body he had in the basement of the temple did explode, after all.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 12, 2019 19:59:00 GMT
I took it to mean that bits of Corypheus (and grey wrdens, I suppose?) hit the lyrium already present in the mountain when the explosion happened and infected it then. Except Solas specifically mentioned magic being involved, so it seems like it was more than just corrupted tissue getting mixed in with the lyrium. I missed the Solas comment first time I played the game but noticed it on my second run. At this point I knew nothing about the Titans but did know the information from Bianca. Then there are all his comments about the Grey Wardens to take into account and his discussion with Vivienne about Blight magic. Whatever caused the taint I am pretty sure the Evanuris or the Forgotten Ones had a hand in it and Solas knew way more than he was willing to divulge. It is one of those questions I would have liked to have asked but was never given the chance: "What do you really know about the Blight?"
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 12, 2019 21:53:21 GMT
I think Blight magic has a different source of origin considering some of the other things we learn, for example how it is alien to spirits and demons, beings that dwell in the Fade a realm of magic. Perhaps the ancient elves meddled with it or something, but I don’t think they created it. I hop not either, since I don’t want everything to be “because ancient elves”.
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Post by xerrai on Feb 12, 2019 22:48:00 GMT
I think Blight magic has a different source of origin considering some of the other things we learn, for example how it is alien to spirits and demons, beings that dwell in the Fade a realm of magic. Perhaps the ancient elves meddled with it or something, but I don’t think they created it. I hop not either, since I don’t want everything to be “because ancient elves”. Well its possible the original taint/blight predated the elves. In addition to the dwarves claiming that the darkspawn where 'always there' (i.e not originating from the black city) and how most red lyrium was found in ancient thaigs, there was also a reference to what they called the gangue. Basically its just describes the corruption version of the stone, and it is an occurrence that was reportedly "as old as balance". So I'd say there is enough evidence to support the possibility of the taint being a natural occurrence, or at least predating elvhen interference. That being said, there is also a high probability that elves did meddle with it (black city, dwarven-elvhen interaction, the DAO eluvian, etc). So I'd say you have reason to hope.
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Post by wickedcool on Feb 13, 2019 19:43:48 GMT
What are the chances that a key to defeat solas/new big bad comes from Weisshaupt? We know that hawke or the other survivor travel there plus it’s a setting for a recent book. Notes day wardens have library plus treasures there
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 13, 2019 19:51:24 GMT
it’s a setting for a recent book. Notes day wardens have library plus treasures there It was interesting that in the book they seemed to be doing a lot of research about blood magic being used in the past and yet this could not have had anything to do with what went on in the south because in the book the HQ knew nothing about that, just assumed that Clarel had been a bit tardy about making her latest report. So clearly the leadership were investigating something that they either thought could be important or was of concern.
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Feb 20, 2019 23:18:28 GMT
Just to add something i missed to my original post.[ 1] The 2 spheres could also be metaphorical, symbolising the Fade/Titans/Dragons. They might also be Somnaborium/Foci.[ 2] Codex entry: The Box of Screaming mentions a "Bronze Sphere", it could just be a reference to the Bronze Sphere item in Planescape: Torment, a game that was made with BW's Infinity Engine, but a reason to think otherwise are the locations mentioned in the Codex are in Tevinter. "I agreed to take three things from him: a glowing crystalline shard, a bronze sphere, and an iron-bound box with no hinges." "In Perivantium, I bartered the bronze sphere for new clothes and room at the inn."
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