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Post by shriekalpha on Dec 19, 2018 20:34:21 GMT
I think it would be out of character if Merrill doesn't join Solas. He is basically offering everything she has ever wanted; remember when you take her into the Fade, she sides with the pride demon and is willing to kill Hawke and the other party members in order to become the savior of the Elves. It would be great if she shows up as Solas's second-in-command if she is alive, and perhaps give the PC the opportunity to convince her to turn on Solas in the final confrontation if she destroyed the mirror in DA2. If she is dead, her role can just be replaced by Velanna, who will not change her mind. (Yes, Velanna can die in DA:A too (I think?), but Bioware has pretty much ignored choices in DA:A so far, with Anders showing up, even when he is dead or given over to the Templars at the beginning of the expansion, and then he proceeds to talk about the events of Awakening like he was there.)
As for Fenris, yeah, I don't see why he would ever join Solas. He hates the fade, he doesn't trust mages at all, and he was never very elf-centric anyway, so he has literally zero motivation for helping Solas.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 19, 2018 20:40:30 GMT
I think it would be out of character if Merrill doesn't join Solas. He is basically offering everything she has ever wanted; remember when you take her into the Fade, she sides with the pride demon and is willing to kill Hawke and the other party members in order to become the savior of the Elves. It would be great if she shows up as Solas's second-in-command if she is alive, and perhaps give the PC the opportunity to convince her to turn on Solas in the final confrontation if she destroyed the mirror in DA2. If she is dead, her role can just be replaced by Velanna, who will not change her mind. (Yes, Velanna can die in DA:A too (I think?), but Bioware has pretty much ignored choices in DA:A so far, with Anders showing up, even when he is dead or given over to the Templars at the beginning of the expansion, and then he proceeds to talk about the events of Awakening like he was there.). I disagree. After her story in DA2 it would be completely out of character for Merrill to join Solas if she knew of his plans. First, the fact he is Fen’Hatel would immediately make her say no since she has multiple conversations about how you are not to trust him. Then there is her quest line where her pursuit for those goals costed her everything, thus her abandoning them as a result. She then finds a new goal, helping people. Then of course there is Varric who would warn her and tell her the truth immediately. |
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 19, 2018 20:47:52 GMT
I think it would be out of character if Merrill doesn't join Solas. He is basically offering everything she has ever wanted; remember when you take her into the Fade, she sides with the pride demon and is willing to kill Hawke and the other party members in order to become the savior of the Elves. It would be great if she shows up as Solas's second-in-command if she is alive, and perhaps give the PC the opportunity to convince her to turn on Solas in the final confrontation if she destroyed the mirror in DA2. And why do we need more drama for Merrill? I am against this idea because its unlikely that Hawke show up and almost impossible that he/she will ever be a playable hero again. Also a tons of players will likely see Merrill just as Solas follower because they haven´t played DA 2. In addition Merrill also had plenty time of screentime and her moment in DA 2. Not bad for original Dalish Origin only follower.
I honest believe her Friends Aveline, Isabela and especially Varric would also protect her for joining Solas. And Hawke of course if he/she still alive and if they are lovers.
If you really want an established character why not Shianni?
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Post by shriekalpha on Dec 19, 2018 20:56:35 GMT
I think it would be out of character if Merrill doesn't join Solas. He is basically offering everything she has ever wanted; remember when you take her into the Fade, she sides with the pride demon and is willing to kill Hawke and the other party members in order to become the savior of the Elves. It would be great if she shows up as Solas's second-in-command if she is alive, and perhaps give the PC the opportunity to convince her to turn on Solas in the final confrontation if she destroyed the mirror in DA2. If she is dead, her role can just be replaced by Velanna, who will not change her mind. (Yes, Velanna can die in DA:A too (I think?), but Bioware has pretty much ignored choices in DA:A so far, with Anders showing up, even when he is dead or given over to the Templars at the beginning of the expansion, and then he proceeds to talk about the events of Awakening like he was there.). I disagree. After her story in DA2 it would be completely out of character for Merrill to join Solas if she knew of his plans. First, the fact he is Fen’Hatel would immediately make her say no since she has multiple conversations about how you are not to trust him. Then there is her quest line where her pursuit for those goals costed her everything, thus her abandoning them as a result. She then finds a new goal, helping people. Then of course there is Varric who would warn her and tell her the truth immediately. I think Merrill is one of the more open-minded Dalish, more willingly to change her mind about their dogmas. She clearly has great respect for Mythal, and Solas is supposedly a very good friend of hers, so I could see this new revelation that Fen'Harel and the Evanuris are not what she was told they were making her willing to at least hear him out. I also understand her personal quest line in DA2, which is why I said you should be able to change her mind when you confront her if she destroyed the mirror.
You should also take into account that while Merrill could have realized in DA2 that the cost of unlocking the Eluvian was too high, Solas's plan has a lot clearer outcomes. It isn't like she is unlocking an elven relic she doesn't understand in the hopes that it might help the elves, Solas has a very real plan, with the restoration of the world of the Elves seemingly very close. Merrill might deem that the costs of restoring her people are worth it now that the benefits of doing so are more clear, but if she destroyed the mirror in DA2, she could still have lingering doubts that would cause her to turn on Solas given persuasion from the DA4 PC.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 19, 2018 21:01:04 GMT
I disagree. After her story in DA2 it would be completely out of character for Merrill to join Solas if she knew of his plans. First, the fact he is Fen’Hatel would immediately make her say no since she has multiple conversations about how you are not to trust him. Then there is her quest line where her pursuit for those goals costed her everything, thus her abandoning them as a result. She then finds a new goal, helping people. Then of course there is Varric who would warn her and tell her the truth immediately. I think Merrill is one of the more open-minded Dalish, more willingly to change her mind about their dogmas. She clearly has great respect for Mythal, and Solas is supposedly a very good friend of hers, so I could see this new revelation that Fen'Harel and the Evanuris are not what she was told they were making her willing to at least hear him out. I also understand her personal quest line in DA2, which is why I said you should be able to change her mind when you confront her if she destroyed the mirror.
You should also take into account that while Merrill could have realized in DA2 that the cost of unlocking the Eluvian was too high, Solas's plan has a lot clearer outcomes. It isn't like she is unlocking an elven relic she doesn't understand in the hopes that it might help the elves, Solas has a very real plan, with the restoration of the world of the Elves seemingly very close. Merrill might deem that the costs of restoring her people are worth it now that the benefits of doing so are more clear, but if she destroyed the mirror in DA2, she could still have lingering doubts that would cause her to turn on Solas given persuasion from the DA4 PC.
Except she has non-elven friends who would die as a result. That alone would stop her from agreeing to it. I also notice you keep saying if she destroyed the mirror? What is Hawke didn’t rival her? Would she follow Solas without being able to change this you’d have to kill her? To be honest, if Merrill had any role in the next game it would be helping the protagonists stop Solas. |
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Post by shriekalpha on Dec 19, 2018 21:08:28 GMT
I think it would be out of character if Merrill doesn't join Solas. He is basically offering everything she has ever wanted; remember when you take her into the Fade, she sides with the pride demon and is willing to kill Hawke and the other party members in order to become the savior of the Elves. It would be great if she shows up as Solas's second-in-command if she is alive, and perhaps give the PC the opportunity to convince her to turn on Solas in the final confrontation if she destroyed the mirror in DA2. And why do we need more drama for Merrill? I am against this idea because its unlikely that Hawke show up and almost impossible that he/she will ever be a playable hero again. Also a tons of players will likely see Merrill just as Solas follower because they haven´t played DA 2. In addition Merrill also had plenty time of screentime and her moment in DA 2. Not bad for original Dalish Origin only follower.
I honest believe her Friends Aveline, Isabela and especially Varric would also protect her for joining Solas. And Hawke of course if he/she still alive and if they are lovers.
If you really want an established character why not Shianni?
I'm not saying that Merrill needs to show up in DA4, I'm saying that if she does, she should probably be working for Solas given her character. The difference between putting Merrill and Shianni in as an established elf character siding with Solas is not only that Merrill is a deeper and more important character, there is also a power difference.
Merrill is a powerful Dalish blood mage, and Shianni is just a loud city elf; during the siege of Denerim in DA:O, you can tell her and the other alienage elves to fight with you, and she basically says that they are all civilians, and if they fight with you they will all die. As such, it would seem strange if Shianni were to show up in Solas's army as anything other than a spy.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 19, 2018 21:12:30 GMT
I think Merrill is one of the more open-minded Dalish, more willingly to change her mind about their dogmas. She clearly has great respect for Mythal, and Solas is supposedly a very good friend of hers, so I could see this new revelation that Fen'Harel and the Evanuris are not what she was told they were making her willing to at least hear him out. I also understand her personal quest line in DA2, which is why I said you should be able to change her mind when you confront her if she destroyed the mirror.
You should also take into account that while Merrill could have realized in DA2 that the cost of unlocking the Eluvian was too high, Solas's plan has a lot clearer outcomes. It isn't like she is unlocking an elven relic she doesn't understand in the hopes that it might help the elves, Solas has a very real plan, with the restoration of the world of the Elves seemingly very close. Merrill might deem that the costs of restoring her people are worth it now that the benefits of doing so are more clear, but if she destroyed the mirror in DA2, she could still have lingering doubts that would cause her to turn on Solas given persuasion from the DA4 PC.
Merrill last DA 2 quest change her completely. In this quest she lost her keeper/mentor/surrogate mother Marethari and could also optional lost her entire clan. Merrill is at this moment in her live no more Dalish.
Her goal isn´t anymore to restore elven glory. According to Varric Merrill is protecting the city elves. |
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 19, 2018 21:37:24 GMT
Waaaaitaminute.... *rereads tweets* ...Are we sure we're reading this right? And I'm not even talking about it being read as sarcasm. The people making questions are the ones that assume that Gaider is talking about Fenris joining Solas, but does Gaider really alludes that? All he says that Fenris would be susceptible to egg-related propaganda... but he never clarifies whose propaganda it is. What if it is anti-egg propaganda? It wouldn't be the first time, nevermind that a lot of elven myths are based on it... People have already pointed out that Fenris may be more willing to join the effort against Solas than for him (though, to be fair - we don't really know what would be Solas's strategy or even what his plans are, so...). |
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Post by phoray on Dec 19, 2018 22:01:09 GMT
rat man @cxlliforniado you even know your own characters David Gaider @davidgaiderI do! Do you think you know them better than the person who wrote them? 😉 CutieInk @maddie_B_Artistlol jesus people are freaking out on tumblr because of this XD never expected to be a part of something like that. lol David Gaider @davidgaiderHa ha! I can just imagine. Regardless of whether he knew them when he wrote them, he doesn't write them anymore. Just like Gaider's Cole in the book is very different from Patrick's Cole in the game. I don't know if that makes me feel better or worse about Fenris' possible cameo in DA4 or not. |
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Post by Sifr on Dec 19, 2018 22:06:14 GMT
The only way I feel that Fenris would only agree to help Solas is to end slavery across all of Thedas.
Aside from that, I have serious doubts that he would ever support Solas' plan to tear down the Veil. Fenris would not want to gain magic, nor risk freeing the Evanuris, if they truly were worse than the Ancient Magisters as Solas claims.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Dec 19, 2018 22:19:49 GMT
I feel like if we do get betrayed to Solas by an elf we know in DA4 it has to be a new character or Charter. Or Arianne, I guess, but that raises the question of what happened to Finn. There's a chance Sketch might be working for Solas already, but given what that letter in The World of Thedas also implies about Tug, I think he's more likely to be a spy for the Executors.
Zevran, Velanna, Fenris and Merrill can all be dead. Tallis is a loyal Qunari. Sera would never. So that leaves Charter, or a new character.
For myself, though, I think BioWare have mined that vein of ore a bit to much in recent games to go to it again. We're already had Anders and Solas, plus Blackwall and Isabela who lie to you, and Zevran and Iron Bull who can turn on you in certain circumstances. At this point if my mysterious apostate companion turns on me at the end of the game, all the sting will have gone out of it.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 19, 2018 22:47:06 GMT
I feel like if we do get betrayed to Solas by an elf we know in DA4 it has to be a new character or Charter. Or Arianne, I guess, but that raises the question of what happened to Finn. There's a chance Sketch might be working for Solas already, but given what that letter in The World of Thedas also implies about Tug, I think he's more likely to be a spy for the Executors. Zevran, Velanna, Fenris and Merrill can all be dead. Tallis is a loyal Qunari. Sera would never. So that leaves Charter, or a new character. For myself, though, I think BioWare have mined that vein of ore a bit to much in recent games to go to it again. We're already had Anders and Solas, plus Blackwall and Isabela who lie to you, and Zevran and Iron Bull who can turn on you in certain circumstances. At this point if my mysterious apostate companion turns on me at the end of the game, all the sting will have gone out of it. ...which is why I'm rooting for us to be the spy  *(not necessarily working for Dread Wolf) |
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 19, 2018 22:54:30 GMT
I responded to this in the Solas thread, but it seems more on topic here:
I'm almost 100% certain the phrase "it's an idea completely within the realm of plausibility. 😉" was meant with sarcasm.
Its either Fenris' character has completely changed or Gaider is being facetious. Occam's razor dictates the latter to me.
Unless Solas tricks Fenris into being useful for him, of course. Like if he's fomenting a slave rebellion in Tevinter thru proxies. Then Fenris might end up working for him. But I'd pity Solas when Fenris finds out. I think Fenris is one of the few people that magic petrification won't work on.
Why wouldn't it work? Besides - I don't think petrification is the only weapon in his arsenal. Plus, Solas's most potent weapon remains his knowledge and we don't know how much he knows about either Fenris or magical lyrium tattoos. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Fenris phases thru matter by instantaneously passing in and out of the Fade at will. Basically his body reality hops, either in part or in full. I think that could be used to avoid the effects of the petrification we saw in Trespasser if timed correctly, maybe even allow him to get out of it if he *is* hit with it and he phases before he loses consciousness. Fenris' abilities should make him an excellent mage killer. That's my idea, anyway.
And petrification isn't the only thing in Solas' arsenal, but its definitely one of the more god-mode moves. Fenris has fought mages before so I think he can handle the more mundane magic just fine, especially if part of a team. Fireballs, etc. I'd imagine Force magic (like veil strike? and stuff from teh actual force magic tree ) might also be OP in Solas' hands, but again phasing could help avoid that.
And this is all assuming Solas couldn't interfere with the lyrium tattoos' operations somehow. Which is a big "if", of course, since they were apparently developed using ancient elf knowledge and likely based off vallaslin. But vallaslin removal, I'd imagine, isn't something that can be done easily in the chaos of combat. As long as Fenris didn't get pinned down somehow, he'd likely have a chance
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 19, 2018 23:02:19 GMT
I feel like if we do get betrayed to Solas by an elf we know in DA4 it has to be a new character or Charter. Or Arianne, I guess, but that raises the question of what happened to Finn. Charter is an relationship with Tessa Forsythia. Like Arianne Bioware have to break this relationship first. I really don´t see Arianne as traitor. Bioware could do this but why? Arianne isn´t very interessing without Finn.
Charter could have worked but her relationship with Tessa make it more difficult.
But what about Elan Ve´mal and Shianni as traitors / Solas followers?
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 19, 2018 23:08:28 GMT
Why wouldn't it work? Besides - I don't think petrification is the only weapon in his arsenal. Plus, Solas's most potent weapon remains his knowledge and we don't know how much he knows about either Fenris or magical lyrium tattoos. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Fenris phases thru matter by instantaneously passing in and out of the Fade at will. Basically his body reality hops, either in part or in full. I think that could be used to avoid the effects of the petrification we saw in Trespasser if timed correctly, maybe even allow him to get out of it if he *is* hit with it and he phases before he loses consciousness. Fenris' abilities should, in theory, make him an excellent mage killer. That's my idea, anyway.
I don't really think phasing is a problem Solas can't deal with - in DAI Knight-Enchanters can phase in and out of the Fade without lyrium tattoos. And this style of fighting descends directly from ancient elvhen Arcane Warriors. Also - in Trespasser and while using Solas's own power - Inky gets even more special ability to phase in/out of the Fade (even through strange purple flames Solas throws around) and extend that invulnerability/phasing on their companions. IMO, phasing would simply not be a problem. And even if we assume that it can save someone from petrification (though we don't really know what exactly that spell is...) it's probably hardly the only thing Solas can do. |
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 19, 2018 23:43:40 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Fenris phases thru matter by instantaneously passing in and out of the Fade at will. Basically his body reality hops, either in part or in full. I think that could be used to avoid the effects of the petrification we saw in Trespasser if timed correctly, maybe even allow him to get out of it if he *is* hit with it and he phases before he loses consciousness. Fenris' abilities should, in theory, make him an excellent mage killer. That's my idea, anyway.
I don't really think phasing is a problem Solas can't deal with - in DAI Knight-Enchanters can phase in and out of the Fade without lyrium tattoos. And this style of fighting descends directly from ancient elvhen Arcane Warriors. Also - in Trespasser and while using Solas's own power - Inky gets even more special ability to phase in/out of the Fade (even through strange purple flames Solas throws around) and extend that invulnerability/phasing on their companions. IMO, phasing would simply not be a problem. And even if we assume that it can save someone from petrification (though we don't really know what exactly that spell is...) it's probably hardly the only thing Solas can do. I don't see how multiple people being able to briefly phase between reality lessens its usefulness against Solas. The fact he has other magic in his arsenal also doesn't make phasing any less useful. Please clarify? |
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 19, 2018 23:58:31 GMT
I don't really think phasing is a problem Solas can't deal with - in DAI Knight-Enchanters can phase in and out of the Fade without lyrium tattoos. And this style of fighting descends directly from ancient elvhen Arcane Warriors. Also - in Trespasser and while using Solas's own power - Inky gets even more special ability to phase in/out of the Fade (even through strange purple flames Solas throws around) and extend that invulnerability/phasing on their companions. IMO, phasing would simply not be a problem. And even if we assume that it can save someone from petrification (though we don't really know what exactly that spell is...) it's probably hardly the only thing Solas can do. I don't see how multiple people being able to briefly phase between reality lessens its usefulness against Solas. The fact he has other magic in his arsenal also doesn't make phasing any less useful. Please clarify? What I'm aiming at is that phasing in and out of the Fade is simply old hat for Solas. He either outright possesses or tinkered with ability himself (hence the Anchor has such ability) or withessed it done probably thousands of times, no lyrium tattoos required, performed by ancient elvhen Arcane Warriors. I may be wrong, but if taken the above into consideration, being able to phase in and out of the Fade is neither new, shocking or dangerous to Solas. |
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 20, 2018 0:13:12 GMT
I don't see how multiple people being able to briefly phase between reality lessens its usefulness against Solas. The fact he has other magic in his arsenal also doesn't make phasing any less useful. Please clarify? What I'm aiming at is that phasing in and out of the Fade is simply old hat for Solas. He either outright possesses or tinkered with ability himself (hence the Anchor has such ability) or withessed it done probably thousands of times, no lyrium tattoos required, performed by ancient elvhen Arcane Warriors. I may be wrong, but if taken the above into consideration, being able to phase in and out of the Fade is neither new, shocking or dangerous to Solas. I think you're taking a leap to say it isn't dangerous to Solas just cus it isn't new. That's like saying a sword isn't dangerous to a knight cus he's seen one before.
To be clear, I don't think Fenris being able to phase gives an automatic win in a fight against Solas. I just think its an advantage in that it counters one of Solas' otherwise unavoidable spells. That ability to turn you to stone without even looking at you is devastating to those who can't avoid it, which is most people. Fenris, and others, being able to avoid or shrug it off means Solas has one less advantage than what he had before. Not saying he doesn't have other tricks up his sleeve, but one step at a time, yeah?
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Post by mattjamho on Dec 20, 2018 0:15:34 GMT
I'd really hope Merrill doesn't join him.
I'd have thought what happens in her personal path would make her less naive and more grounded.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 20, 2018 0:20:45 GMT
What I'm aiming at is that phasing in and out of the Fade is simply old hat for Solas. He either outright possesses or tinkered with ability himself (hence the Anchor has such ability) or withessed it done probably thousands of times, no lyrium tattoos required, performed by ancient elvhen Arcane Warriors. I may be wrong, but if taken the above into consideration, being able to phase in and out of the Fade is neither new, shocking or dangerous to Solas. I think you're taking a leap to say it isn't dangerous to Solas just cus it isn't new. That's like saying a sword isn't dangerous to a knight cus he's seen one before.
To be clear, I don't think Fenris being able to phase gives an automatic win in a fight against Solas. I just think its an advantage in that it counters one of Solas' otherwise unavoidable spells. That ability to turn you to stone without even looking at you is devastating to those who can't avoid it, which is most people. Fenris, and others, beign able to avoid or shrug it off means Solas has one less advantage than what he had before. Not saying he doesn't have other tricks up his sleeve, but one step at a time, yeah?
Did I say that he's only seen this before? Or suggested that perhaps he even possesses the skill and tinkered further with it, given abilities of the Anchor? Solas fought in at least one war and at least one rebellion - led peasants against gods and nobles (often guarded by Arcane Warriors). So he not only saw the sword - he likely has an even fancier sword and knows ways how to handle other swordmasters. (sorry, I couldn't help it!) IMO I think that if we are to face Solas we probably have to even the playfield by reaching for something exotic or on his level.... will probably come with a hefty price too ;P |
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Post by Sifr on Dec 20, 2018 0:27:15 GMT
Come to think about it, would Fenris' tattoos be susceptible to a Seeker's powers?
Cassandra mentions that Seekers are able to set the Lyrium in a Mage or Templar's blood aflame, so surely having Lyrium branded into his skin would leave Fenris equally vulnerable to paralysis or crippling agony if a Seeker used it against him?
Not exactly what we were discussing, but it tpopped into my head when I was trying to work out what the potential disadvantages of Fenris' abilities were, or if he had any weaknesses that could be potentially exploited by his opponents.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 1:03:51 GMT
*Fenris sees Solas removing Dalish tattoos* "Could you rid me of these?" "Of course.  " |
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 20, 2018 2:19:03 GMT
I think you're taking a leap to say it isn't dangerous to Solas just cus it isn't new. That's like saying a sword isn't dangerous to a knight cus he's seen one before.
To be clear, I don't think Fenris being able to phase gives an automatic win in a fight against Solas. I just think its an advantage in that it counters one of Solas' otherwise unavoidable spells. That ability to turn you to stone without even looking at you is devastating to those who can't avoid it, which is most people. Fenris, and others, beign able to avoid or shrug it off means Solas has one less advantage than what he had before. Not saying he doesn't have other tricks up his sleeve, but one step at a time, yeah?
Did I say that he's only seen this before? Or suggested that perhaps he even possesses the skill and tinkered further with it, given abilities of the Anchor? Solas fought in at least one war and at least one rebellion - led peasants against gods and nobles (often guarded by Arcane Warriors). So he not only saw the sword - he likely has an even fancier sword and knows ways how to handle other swordmasters. (sorry, I couldn't help it!) IMO I think that if we are to face Solas we probably have to even the playfield by reaching for something exotic or on his level.... will probably come with a hefty price too ;P And again, so what if Solas can do the phasing, too? It still gives Fenris (or others like him) on less thing to worry about with regards to being medusa'd. Which was my point.
And why are you starting off with "did I say" as if I'm putting words in your mouth and misrepresenting you or something? You *were* saying that Solas knowing about phasing would somehow make the fact Fenris could do it irrelevant, were you not? Or am I somehow misunderstanding your position?
EDIT: Just thought of this, but I'm actually not sure your idea of Solas having previous experience with phasing would work. Fenris phases across the veil, between the Fade and the Physical worlds. In Solas' time fighting insurrections and such, there was no veil and the fade and the physical were intermingled. So, even if they did have pockets of fade to phase in back then, its still a lot different than the current makeup of the world so things would actually not necessarily react the same as how Solas would be expecting them to from his time pre-veil.
In other words, Solas could think he's holding a bowie knife and expect it to work like a bowie knife, but go to swing it and be surprised when the bowie-knife turns out to be more rubbery than he remembered.
Come to think about it, would Fenris' tattoos be susceptible to a Seeker's powers? Cassandra mentions that Seekers are able to set the Lyrium in a Mage or Templar's blood aflame, so surely having Lyrium branded into his skin would leave Fenris equally vulnerable to paralysis or crippling agony if a Seeker used it against him? Not exactly what we were discussing, but it tpopped into my head when I was trying to work out what the potential disadvantages of Fenris' abilities were, or if he had any weaknesses that could be potentially exploited by his opponents. Probably. I wonder if Cass could use the same idea against a titan or sha-brytol, too? Templar/Cass abilities didn't have a special effect on sha-brytol, did they? Its been awhile. Course I'm not entirely sure how she has that power in the first place. How does a ritual where people are temporarily made tranquil and then cured by contact with a spirit, all things having to do with the Fade, result in somehow being closer to dwarves/titans? You know, being "quieter" to Cole (like dwarves) and able to affect lyrim in Cassandra's case. This stuff is weird. |
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