Former Elf Companions Joining Solas (or not) In DA4

Hang on - why are we treating the phasing as if it was a sure thing that protects from the whole petrification? Neither of us knows that - all of these are speculations. We don't even know how that whole petrification thing works or what it even does. All I'm claiming is that it's irrelevant anyway because Solas probably knows how to handle phasing tricks.
Because I made two arguments and we keep jumping from one or another, as if the other didn't exist when one of them is being addressed. That's all I meant.

Besides like..... Morrigan, who is "the inheritor" and is clearly into preserving ancient magics, not to mention the whole daughter of Mythal business, do we know of any people of other races who'd likely be pro- Solas's plan as we know it?


I think the concept is neat! But I'd hope that we're given a choice. I don't want to be shoehorned into betraying an organization unless it's what I think that character would do.

Oooh, we're a fugitive from our own former organization! With INTEL!



.....actually, that would basically make us Zevran versus the Crows. 😅

Solas tells a Dalish inquisitor that the return of his world means the destruction of theirs just like every other inquisitor. It's his people he wants to restore and he makes it pretty clear that he doesn't consider modern elves his people. So right now we have no reason to think that the dalish and city elves will weather this crisis any better than the rest of thedas.

Velanna loves the Dalish, there's no way she'd knowingly pariticpate in a plan that would harm/kill them, no matter how much she'd like to recover old knowledge and shove the shemlen off their perch.

Personally I really hope we see some Dalish oppose him, whether old characters or new.

The only way I can see any of our former elf companions working for Solas is if they are entirely in the dark about his actual goals. It wouldn't make sense for any of them to side with him otherwise, it's not remotely in their interests to do so. It already boggles my mind that any surviving ancient elves would get involved, Solas makes it pretty clear that pre-human Thedas wasn't a great place for anyone except the Evanuris.

Although helping Corypheus wasn't in anyone's interest either. I don't even understand how any of his human assistants stifled their vomit long enough to hear him out in the first place.

"Lady Florianne! There's a sentient, walking pile of cancer outside!"

"Well let him in, you idiot!"

Still imagining Sera trying to infiltrate the organization and Solas just sending a general memo to his agents like "No." with a fresco-style drawing of Sera's face on some parchment.

Hmmmmmm, right... because IRL, we don't know people so willing to grab power that they ally with vomit-inducing people they may have even riled against in the past when the opposite was politically convenient... It's not any less realistic motivation than desperation or utter disgust with how things are now, that even a walking pile of cancer (*cough*) seems like a good idea, even if for a short time before reason kicks in.

Yes, this scenario would be plausible but only because Solas leaves out large parts of the plan, like everyone will die including you Fenris, and by the way it will mean releasing super-powered mages that make the Magisters look like infants but don't worry I've got a plan for dealing with them.

This is the point. Any elf could be persuaded to join Solas if he is a tight-lipped about his plans for the world as he was with the Inquisitor for the majority of the time he knew them. For the majority of DAI I really liked Solas and thoroughly agreed with much of what he said to me and certainly to my companions, particularly to Dorian concerning slavery. Even when he was revealed as Fen'Harel I was still hopeful that it was going to lead to better times for the elves with his support. Then he told me the real plan and that's when he lost me. How many of the elves flocking to join him have been given the last bit? Very few I imagine.

This is why my biggest fear for DA4 is that I will be forced to kill lots of elves simply for supporting him even though they probably don't know the truth. If that happens I shall be seriously upset. (It was bad enough when I was forced to kill all those city elves in DA2 who had been seduced by the Qun).

Oooh, forgot about Cole (no pun intended). I wonder if spirit vs. human Cole makes a difference here?

We don't know actually at what point he shed his disguise and revealed his true form. Bianca tells us she was fooled because she thought she was dealing with a normal Grey Warden, as he was still occupying the form he used to escape Hawke. So it is entirely possible that other people were recruited initially before he transformed himself into his real appearance. For all we know, Florianne may not even have been aware he had changed.