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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 5:47:58 GMT
Again, did you ask him how his day was? I mean hey....some people just like to have dudes on top of them and it's ok. I won't judge... I mean, I didn't ask about his day. Neither did Ryder so I don't see where the question comes from... Oh, do YOU need someone to ask about your day? Gotcha. How was your day? Are you doing ok? lol...damn that's lame. Nice comeback...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 5:54:12 GMT
Is this how your experience went when he jumped on you? Maybe this is why you hold such a favorable view of random people jumping on you...
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 7, 2019 5:58:49 GMT
Is this how your experience went when he jumped on you? Maybe this is why you hold such a favorable view of random people jumping on you... No, but I would love if my dog was still around to hang out like that with!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 6:00:44 GMT
Is this how your experience went when he jumped on you? Maybe this is why you hold such a favorable view of random people jumping on you... No, but I would love if my dog was still around to hang out like that with! Damn...that's sad. Sorry to here that. I lost my Husky years back and it still sucks even now.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 7, 2019 6:03:03 GMT
No, but I would love if my dog was still around to hang out like that with! Damn...that's sad. Sorry to here that. I lost my Husky years back and it still sucks even now. Yup. Haven't got another since. Just... Not ready.
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Post by Serza on Jan 7, 2019 11:36:34 GMT
So when you say you want to be more serious, you mean you want to be a psychopath? Because none of what you write is a more mature or serious action than what was in the game. Never had to fight for your life, have you? Ever even been physically attacked? Important life lessons are learned there, and have been mostly lost to an entire generation. When you are physically attacked, I imagine you will lie down and take it, and try to live with the scars. I hope you never have to face this. From my experience as a 6'3 215lb man - I am the least attractive target. Yet I have survived an attempted carjacking because sometimes criminals don't give a fuck. When you talk about what is mature or serious in this sort of situation (or role-playing it in a video game), I think it's safe to say you're out of your element, Honnie.
I must say that unfortunately, I agree. Violence simply happens, and we sometimes can't avoid it.
And during that time you're recovering, your squadmates are doing a whole lot of nothing. At the very least, wouldn't you believe they would make an attempt to remove her from being on top of you?
If it was me, I would have stepped to the right, after hearing her run, avoiding her. I would walk over to her and start laughing at her wearing the Barney belly button armor and having black paint smeared across her eyes. If by chance she were to knock me to the ground, I would use her momentum against her. As I'm falling, I would grab her outfit, and use it to fling her over me sending her away from me. I would get up, run to her, slam my knee into her sternum asking her what the **** is her problem. If that doesn't happen, while she's on top of me, I would notice her gut and neck are exposed. Since I wouldn't get much of a hit in her gut, I would grab her collar, pull her towards me as my right hand smacks her in the throat. Depending on how hard I hit her, she might be in a world of hurt. If that doesn't happen, I would throw her off me. When she makes that comment, that would fuel my anger since I'm not in a good mood after my father recently died, I would get up, then slam her to the ground, and start pounding her face in. The most likely thing that would happen is I would step to the side to avoid her from knocking me down.
Personally, I would have just side stepped the Blue Alien's running tackle while drawing my sidearm, took aim at the back of her head once she pasted, and fired.
That is a little extreme, however... A little yelling, some well-pointed guns... That would likely do the trick. You can always shoot if it doesn't work. Your gun's already pointed, pulling the trigger is split second's work of three muscles.
Man, bunch of badasses in here, just shooting and punching everything that moves! I think the game you are looking for is GTA5. Trevor, I think, is the protagonist that most exemplifies your type of play. Have fun!
It's called standing your ground. Violence should be the last thing you go for, but as the ages-old saying goes, Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum. If you wish for peace, prepare for War.
Why do you think my first reaction to threats in the workplace (whether they have been meant seriously or not) was to do a quick visual scan for improvised weapons? And boy did I find a couple.
Standing up to evil isn't the same as sowing it's seeds.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 7, 2019 14:08:10 GMT
Never had to fight for your life, have you? Ever even been physically attacked? Important life lessons are learned there, and have been mostly lost to an entire generation. When you are physically attacked, I imagine you will lie down and take it, and try to live with the scars. I hope you never have to face this. From my experience as a 6'3 215lb man - I am the least attractive target. Yet I have survived an attempted carjacking because sometimes criminals don't give a fuck. When you talk about what is mature or serious in this sort of situation (or role-playing it in a video game), I think it's safe to say you're out of your element, Honnie.
I must say that unfortunately, I agree. Violence simply happens, and we sometimes can't avoid it.
Personally, I would have just side stepped the Blue Alien's running tackle while drawing my sidearm, took aim at the back of her head once she pasted, and fired.
That is a little extreme, however... A little yelling, some well-pointed guns... That would likely do the trick. You can always shoot if it doesn't work. Your gun's already pointed, pulling the trigger is split second's work of three muscles.
Man, bunch of badasses in here, just shooting and punching everything that moves! I think the game you are looking for is GTA5. Trevor, I think, is the protagonist that most exemplifies your type of play. Have fun!
It's called standing your ground. Violence should be the last thing you go for, but as the ages-old saying goes, Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum. If you wish for peace, prepare for War.
Why do you think my first reaction to threats in the workplace (whether they have been meant seriously or not) was to do a quick visual scan for improvised weapons? And boy did I find a couple.
Standing up to evil isn't the same as sowing it's seeds.
Is it? You're in unknown territory, with Kett around, and then out of the blue, some blueskin tackles you to the ground. How do you know she's not become rabid form the radiation, and is thinking you to be her next meal? MAYBE, instead of tackling you to the ground, she should just greet you with a "hi" instead? That way, fewer bullets go flying in her direction.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 7, 2019 16:00:57 GMT
I must say that unfortunately, I agree. Violence simply happens, and we sometimes can't avoid it.
That is a little extreme, however... A little yelling, some well-pointed guns... That would likely do the trick. You can always shoot if it doesn't work. Your gun's already pointed, pulling the trigger is split second's work of three muscles.
It's called standing your ground. Violence should be the last thing you go for, but as the ages-old saying goes, Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum. If you wish for peace, prepare for War.
Why do you think my first reaction to threats in the workplace (whether they have been meant seriously or not) was to do a quick visual scan for improvised weapons? And boy did I find a couple.
Standing up to evil isn't the same as sowing it's seeds.
Is it? You're in unknown territory, with Kett around, and then out of the blue, some blueskin tackles you to the ground. How do you know she's not become rabid form the radiation, and is thinking you to be her next meal? MAYBE, instead of tackling you to the ground, she should just greet you with a "hi" instead? That way, fewer bullets go flying in her direction. Yeah. Either kett or hostile mw people are all you know about. Because as far as you know only exiles are out and about at that point. Not exactly people who have a good rep from what you’ve been told. For a soldier who was trained in guarding shit Ryder seems to drop their guard a lot. I’m not as over the top violent response as some I’m this thread, I just don’t think it should have got that far. As soon as she popped out guns should have been on her, no tackle should have happened. It’s almost as bad as strolling around a rokkar base with your guns holstered saying where’s Reyes and then mysteriously having the rokkar get the drop on you. But assuming you are tackled I’d expect at least striking her. But I’ve cold cocked one of those statue dudes who suddenly lunged at me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 17:16:52 GMT
Never had to fight for your life, have you? Ever even been physically attacked? Important life lessons are learned there, and have been mostly lost to an entire generation. When you are physically attacked, I imagine you will lie down and take it, and try to live with the scars. I hope you never have to face this. From my experience as a 6'3 215lb man - I am the least attractive target. Yet I have survived an attempted carjacking because sometimes criminals don't give a fuck. When you talk about what is mature or serious in this sort of situation (or role-playing it in a video game), I think it's safe to say you're out of your element, Honnie.
I must say that unfortunately, I agree. Violence simply happens, and we sometimes can't avoid it.
Personally, I would have just side stepped the Blue Alien's running tackle while drawing my sidearm, took aim at the back of her head once she pasted, and fired.
That is a little extreme, however... A little yelling, some well-pointed guns... That would likely do the trick. You can always shoot if it doesn't work. Your gun's already pointed, pulling the trigger is split second's work of three muscles.
Man, bunch of badasses in here, just shooting and punching everything that moves! I think the game you are looking for is GTA5. Trevor, I think, is the protagonist that most exemplifies your type of play. Have fun!
It's called standing your ground. Violence should be the last thing you go for, but as the ages-old saying goes, Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum. If you wish for peace, prepare for War.
Why do you think my first reaction to threats in the workplace (whether they have been meant seriously or not) was to do a quick visual scan for improvised weapons? And boy did I find a couple.
Standing up to evil isn't the same as sowing it's seeds.
OMG Thank You! I know we don't agree on a lot but this is well said.
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Post by river82 on Jan 7, 2019 21:11:27 GMT
I mean, that has actually happened to me and I can tell you that I did NOT headbutt the guy and then beat him to death. Oh wow, you mean in your generally safe and protected civilian life you generally don't see threats around every corner? Well I can take two things from that, one you're not a woman and two you've never seen combat. It shocks me, SHOCKS me, that people in combat zones or in this instance, people exploring dangerous regions of outer space, don't take the principles of civilised behaviour from people living in safe and comparatively coddled worlds and apply it to their extraordinarily dangerous lives. It boggles the mind, I mean, are they barbarians? Are they brutes? When you're trying to survive against incredibly violent lifeforms, you should react pleasantly and courteously to a possibly dangerous stranger who tackles you out of the heh, blue. Well, I guess I'm convinced.
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Post by Serza on Jan 7, 2019 22:59:15 GMT
I must say that unfortunately, I agree. Violence simply happens, and we sometimes can't avoid it.
That is a little extreme, however... A little yelling, some well-pointed guns... That would likely do the trick. You can always shoot if it doesn't work. Your gun's already pointed, pulling the trigger is split second's work of three muscles.
It's called standing your ground. Violence should be the last thing you go for, but as the ages-old saying goes, Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum. If you wish for peace, prepare for War.
Why do you think my first reaction to threats in the workplace (whether they have been meant seriously or not) was to do a quick visual scan for improvised weapons? And boy did I find a couple.
Standing up to evil isn't the same as sowing it's seeds.
Is it? You're in unknown territory, with Kett around, and then out of the blue, some blueskin tackles you to the ground. How do you know she's not become rabid form the radiation, and is thinking you to be her next meal? MAYBE, instead of tackling you to the ground, she should just greet you with a "hi" instead? That way, fewer bullets go flying in her direction.
My point stands. Besides, there's an outpost you definitely bumped into with a guy that isn't hostile in it minutes ago.
That probably allows you to give people the benefit of doubt... as long as the benefit of doubt involves a pointed gun.
Shooting first wouldn't be the best solution. In fact, it would be one of the worse solutions I can think of...
I have to say that Max and Han are lying, or they have abuse fetishes. Idealism is cute and all, until real life happens. Enjoy your fairy tale while it lasts, and again I hope this aspect of reality never touches you, so you can remain blissful in your ignorance and wrapped warmly in your blanket of smug superiority.
We should all be so lucky.
It's a blessing people can exist like that.
Me, I heard something behind me coming home from work just now. It was nothing, but I don't think I ever turned around and into some semblance of basic stance so quickly. Then again, shadows seemed to move and things seemed very threatening at the edge of my vision, so I guess paranoia was cranked up to 12 again, because 11 is for pussies. (That's sarcasm, by that definition, I'd love to be a pussy)
I must say that unfortunately, I agree. Violence simply happens, and we sometimes can't avoid it.
That is a little extreme, however... A little yelling, some well-pointed guns... That would likely do the trick. You can always shoot if it doesn't work. Your gun's already pointed, pulling the trigger is split second's work of three muscles.
It's called standing your ground. Violence should be the last thing you go for, but as the ages-old saying goes, Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum. If you wish for peace, prepare for War.
Why do you think my first reaction to threats in the workplace (whether they have been meant seriously or not) was to do a quick visual scan for improvised weapons? And boy did I find a couple.
Standing up to evil isn't the same as sowing it's seeds.
OMG Thank You! I know we don't agree on a lot but this is well said.
I just think on things before I talk. That's why I'm often somewhere in the middle, and that's why this was inevitable sooner or later.
I mean, that has actually happened to me and I can tell you that I did NOT headbutt the guy and then beat him to death. Oh wow, you mean in your generally safe and protected civilian life you generally don't see threats around every corner? Well I can take two things from that, one you're not a woman and two you've never seen combat. It shocks me, SHOCKS me, that people in combat zones or in this instance, people exploring dangerous regions of outer space, don't take the principles of civilised behaviour from people living in safe and comparatively coddled worlds and apply it to their extraordinarily dangerous lives. It boggles the mind, I mean, are they barbarians? Are they brutes? When you're trying to survive against incredibly violent lifeforms, you should react pleasantly and courteously to a possibly dangerous stranger who tackles you out of the heh, blue. Well, I guess I'm convinced.
Y'know... You reminded me of this:
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 7, 2019 23:04:51 GMT
I mean, that has actually happened to me and I can tell you that I did NOT headbutt the guy and then beat him to death. Oh wow, you mean in your generally safe and protected civilian life you generally don't see threats around every corner? Well I can take two things from that, one you're not a woman and two you've never seen combat. It shocks me, SHOCKS me, that people in combat zones or in this instance, people exploring dangerous regions of outer space, don't take the principles of civilised behaviour from people living in safe and comparatively coddled worlds and apply it to their extraordinarily dangerous lives. It boggles the mind, I mean, are they barbarians? Are they brutes? When you're trying to survive against incredibly violent lifeforms, you should react pleasantly and courteously to a possibly dangerous stranger who tackles you out of the heh, blue. Well, I guess I'm convinced. Oh my, sir, I apologize for making you clutch your pearls so! Have you watched the scene lately? Everyone seems to think that PeeBee is one-on-one pinning him down for minutes before his squad arrives. That's not accurate. In no time Ryder's squad-mates were there IN HIS FIELD OF VISION so Ryder fully understood that the situation was under control. Ryder was tackled so he/she is facing PeeBee and thus is aware that his "attacker" is an Asari not in armor and smiling. Sure, maybe she was dangerous, but by the time Ryder could have reacted he could SEE that his squad-mates already had their weapons pointed at PeeBee's head. This was not an out-of-control alley confrontation with no assistance. There was no reason to react violently because if PeeBee had made a violent move one of his squad-mates would have put her down before Ryder could have done much anyway. But sure, immediately shooting the unarmored "attacker" that announced their presence before running into an armored and armed squad is the obvious first step. I hope none of you are cops, although if you are then what happens to unarmed African-Americans recently makes a whole lot more sense.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 7, 2019 23:08:54 GMT
Is it? You're in unknown territory, with Kett around, and then out of the blue, some blueskin tackles you to the ground. How do you know she's not become rabid form the radiation, and is thinking you to be her next meal? MAYBE, instead of tackling you to the ground, she should just greet you with a "hi" instead? That way, fewer bullets go flying in her direction.
My point stands. Besides, there's an outpost you definitely bumped into with a guy that isn't hostile in it minutes ago.
That probably allows you to give people the benefit of doubt... as long as the benefit of doubt involves a pointed gun.
Shooting first wouldn't be the best solution. In fact, it would be one of the worse solutions I can think of...
Idealism is cute and all, until real life happens. Enjoy your fairy tale while it lasts, and again I hope this aspect of reality never touches you, so you can remain blissful in your ignorance and wrapped warmly in your blanket of smug superiority.
We should all be so lucky.
It's a blessing people can exist like that.
Me, I heard something behind me coming home from work just now. It was nothing, but I don't think I ever turned around and into some semblance of basic stance so quickly. Then again, shadows seemed to move and things seemed very threatening at the edge of my vision, so I guess paranoia was cranked up to 12 again, because 11 is for pussies. (That's sarcasm, by that definition, I'd love to be a pussy)
OMG Thank You! I know we don't agree on a lot but this is well said.
I just think on things before I talk. That's why I'm often somewhere in the middle, and that's why this was inevitable sooner or later.
Oh wow, you mean in your generally safe and protected civilian life you generally don't see threats around every corner? Well I can take two things from that, one you're not a woman and two you've never seen combat. It shocks me, SHOCKS me, that people in combat zones or in this instance, people exploring dangerous regions of outer space, don't take the principles of civilised behaviour from people living in safe and comparatively coddled worlds and apply it to their extraordinarily dangerous lives. It boggles the mind, I mean, are they barbarians? Are they brutes? When you're trying to survive against incredibly violent lifeforms, you should react pleasantly and courteously to a possibly dangerous stranger who tackles you out of the heh, blue. Well, I guess I'm convinced.
Y'know... You reminded me of this:
Save for that guy was behind a door and made sure you knew he was not hostile and did not tackle you to the ground when the door was opened, were as Dumb Dumb just went straight for tackling you to the ground. But I'm guessing you gonna debunk that viewpoint anyway, so I'm gonna leave it there.
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Post by river82 on Jan 7, 2019 23:12:08 GMT
Oh wow, you mean in your generally safe and protected civilian life you generally don't see threats around every corner? Well I can take two things from that, one you're not a woman and two you've never seen combat. It shocks me, SHOCKS me, that people in combat zones or in this instance, people exploring dangerous regions of outer space, don't take the principles of civilised behaviour from people living in safe and comparatively coddled worlds and apply it to their extraordinarily dangerous lives. It boggles the mind, I mean, are they barbarians? Are they brutes? When you're trying to survive against incredibly violent lifeforms, you should react pleasantly and courteously to a possibly dangerous stranger who tackles you out of the heh, blue. Well, I guess I'm convinced. Oh my, sir, I apologize for making you clutch your pearls so! Have you watched the scene lately? Everyone seems to think that PeeBee is one-on-one pinning him down for minutes before his squad arrives. That's not accurate. In no time Ryder's squad-mates were there IN HIS FIELD OF VISION so Ryder fully understood that the situation was under control. Ryder was tackled so he/she is facing PeeBee and thus is aware that his "attacker" is an Asari not in armor and smiling. Sure, maybe she was dangerous, but by the time Ryder could have reacted he could SEE that his squad-mates already had their weapons pointed at PeeBee's head. This was not an out-of-control alley confrontation with no assistance. There was no reason to react violently because if PeeBee had made a violent move one of his squad-mates would have put her down before Ryder could have done much anyway. But sure, immediately shooting the unarmored "attacker" that announced their presence before running into an armored and armed squad is the obvious first step. I hope none of you are cops, although if you are then what happens to unarmed African-Americans recently makes a whole lot more sense. Minutes? Lol. Out of curiousity have you ever been in a fight in your life? Ever? Just once? If you had you wouldn't be talking "minutes". There was a long pause before you know the squad is there with rifles aimed. Too long. Your "no time" assertion is an assumption. She doesn't smile until some time after she tackle them. You think she has good intentions because of her "species"? What is this species-ism your forwarding. I find your solution to not be ideal, and I find your take on the situation not realistic. But this wasn't supposed to be a realistic take, it was supposed to be a light hearted take. Which is why you tie youeself up in knots trying to argue "realism"
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Post by Serza on Jan 7, 2019 23:18:45 GMT
You bet your ass I'm gonna debunk that, because where the fuck is muh 360 in that scene.
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Post by river82 on Jan 7, 2019 23:21:50 GMT
At the end of the day this issue could easily have been solved with a renegade option to roughly shove her off you, but Bioware were too interested in multi-hued shades of nicety for their protagonist I guess :S
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 7, 2019 23:22:13 GMT
You bet your ass I'm gonna debunk that, because where the fuck is muh 360 in that scene. Maybe you ask BioWare for that 360 degree angle scene.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 7, 2019 23:24:23 GMT
At the end of the day this issue could easily have been solved with a renegade option to roughly shove her off you, but Bioware were too interested in multi-hued shades of nicety for their protagonist I guess :S Or better yet, get rid of that scene and replace it with a scene were logic is used instead.
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Post by Serza on Jan 7, 2019 23:27:36 GMT
You bet your ass I'm gonna debunk that, because where the fuck is muh 360 in that scene. Maybe you ask BioWare for that 360 degree angle scene.
*Drill Instructor stare*
This is MY 360.
Mine has guns, blackjack and hookers. Yours has... pretty looks, I guess?
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Post by Serza on Jan 7, 2019 23:28:22 GMT
At the end of the day this issue could easily have been solved with a renegade option to roughly shove her off you, but Bioware were too interested in multi-hued shades of nicety for their protagonist I guess :S Or better yet, get rid of that scene and replace it with a scene were logic 360 is used instead.
FTFY.
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Post by river82 on Jan 7, 2019 23:28:34 GMT
At the end of the day this issue could easily have been solved with a renegade option to roughly shove her off you, but Bioware were too interested in multi-hued shades of nicety for their protagonist I guess :S Or better yet, get rid of that scene and replace it with a scene were logic is used instead. Like a reaction from those 2 fully suited, armed companions who are standing in the background watching you get tackled. Probably laughing and high-fiving each other, before taking a picture of the incident and unploading it to www.UnusualThingsHappeningThroughoutTheDay.com
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 7, 2019 23:32:11 GMT
Maybe you ask BioWare for that 360 degree angle scene.
*Drill Instructor stare*
This is MY 360.
Mine has guns, blackjack and hookers. Yours has... pretty looks, I guess?
Mine has lascannons, heavy bolters and Baneblades. 😉
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Post by smilesja on Jan 8, 2019 0:00:55 GMT
Oh wow, you mean in your generally safe and protected civilian life you generally don't see threats around every corner? Well I can take two things from that, one you're not a woman and two you've never seen combat. It shocks me, SHOCKS me, that people in combat zones or in this instance, people exploring dangerous regions of outer space, don't take the principles of civilised behaviour from people living in safe and comparatively coddled worlds and apply it to their extraordinarily dangerous lives. It boggles the mind, I mean, are they barbarians? Are they brutes? When you're trying to survive against incredibly violent lifeforms, you should react pleasantly and courteously to a possibly dangerous stranger who tackles you out of the heh, blue. Well, I guess I'm convinced. Oh my, sir, I apologize for making you clutch your pearls so! Have you watched the scene lately? Everyone seems to think that PeeBee is one-on-one pinning him down for minutes before his squad arrives. That's not accurate. In no time Ryder's squad-mates were there IN HIS FIELD OF VISION so Ryder fully understood that the situation was under control. Ryder was tackled so he/she is facing PeeBee and thus is aware that his "attacker" is an Asari not in armor and smiling. Sure, maybe she was dangerous, but by the time Ryder could have reacted he could SEE that his squad-mates already had their weapons pointed at PeeBee's head. This was not an out-of-control alley confrontation with no assistance. There was no reason to react violently because if PeeBee had made a violent move one of his squad-mates would have put her down before Ryder could have done much anyway. But sure, immediately shooting the unarmored "attacker" that announced their presence before running into an armored and armed squad is the obvious first step. I hope none of you are cops, although if you are then what happens to unarmed African-Americans recently makes a whole lot more sense. Eh what is realism? It depends on whether you’re optimismistic or pessimistic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 0:10:32 GMT
Oh my, sir, I apologize for making you clutch your pearls so! Have you watched the scene lately? Everyone seems to think that PeeBee is one-on-one pinning him down for minutes before his squad arrives. That's not accurate. In no time Ryder's squad-mates were there IN HIS FIELD OF VISION so Ryder fully understood that the situation was under control. Ryder was tackled so he/she is facing PeeBee and thus is aware that his "attacker" is an Asari not in armor and smiling. Sure, maybe she was dangerous, but by the time Ryder could have reacted he could SEE that his squad-mates already had their weapons pointed at PeeBee's head. This was not an out-of-control alley confrontation with no assistance. There was no reason to react violently because if PeeBee had made a violent move one of his squad-mates would have put her down before Ryder could have done much anyway. But sure, immediately shooting the unarmored "attacker" that announced their presence before running into an armored and armed squad is the obvious first step. I hope none of you are cops, although if you are then what happens to unarmed African-Americans recently makes a whole lot more sense. Eh what is realism? It depends on whether you’re optimismistic or pessimistic. No it doesn't. All 3 are on different levels of thought. Here's a good read for you. anuschkarees.com/blog/2012/05/03/optimism-vs-pessimism-vs-realism-how-to-be-a-happy-realist
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Post by cloud9 on Jan 8, 2019 0:25:47 GMT
However, one cannot say there are no consequences to ME:A's loyalty missions. In Peebee's, you clearly decide whether or not Kalinda lives or dies and whether or not the team acquires the Remnant device. In Drack's, you clearly decide whether Aroane lives or dies. In Liam's and Vetra's, you are clearly saving people who probably die if you don't do the mission.
The effects of these consequences are outside the scope of the main story, and so the consequences border on meaningless as it pertains right now with the information we have. The idea of choice and consequence is for the consequences of your choices to affect the story or the game. The story, once again, is the plot and the characters. You're talking about consequences for characters that are insignificant, and so the choice and consequences of Andromeda is also insignificant. Your squadmates dying affects the story being told because you are deprived of a character that can have a major imprint on the story (not plot) and gameplay. The council dying at the end of ME1 had plot ramifications. Choices which affect the lives of NPC#30053 are inconsequential, and not what I look for with choice and consequences. Andromeda is trash with that mechanic. Andromeda IS trash, tho.
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