inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 14, 2020 14:00:21 GMT
Get your scalper hats on.
We're going GPU hunting. November 18 at 9AM Eastern Time US on the AMD.com store and E-Tailers/Retailers.
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 14, 2020 15:26:44 GMT
EA facing yet another class action lawsuit LinkAt some point, the legal fees alone are going to be troublesome enough, that I assume EA will drop lootboxes as a whole. Those legal firms don't come in cheap.
|
|
Sanunes
N6
Just a flip of the coin.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Prime Posts: 4392
Prime Likes: 882
Posts: 5,927 Likes: 8,974
inherit
1561
0
8,974
Sanunes
Just a flip of the coin.
5,927
Sept 13, 2016 11:51:12 GMT
September 2016
sanunes
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
4392
882
|
Post by Sanunes on Nov 15, 2020 0:01:08 GMT
EA facing yet another class action lawsuit LinkAt some point, the legal fees alone are going to be troublesome enough, that I assume EA will drop lootboxes as a whole. Those legal firms don't come in cheap. Since these lawsuits have been brought over different things it could be they are just seeing it as the cost of business when Ultimate Team brings in a billion dollars in FIFA. Edit: The thing to remember is EA is used to lawsuit because someone got mad at them. They had a shareholder try and sue them for misleading them for advertising language EA put out after they bought the stock.
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 15, 2020 0:17:50 GMT
Since these lawsuits have been brought over different things it could be they are just seeing it as the cost of business when Ultimate Team brings in a billion dollars in FIFA. Absolutely. These lawsuit, at worst, cost EA a few million. But a few million in one country and having to retire lootboxes here, another such case there, another such case over there, eventually, EA will run out of countries they can implement lootboxes in. At some point the headache from litigations and the climbing costs, contrasted by the declining lootbox income will get to them.
|
|
Sanunes
N6
Just a flip of the coin.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Prime Posts: 4392
Prime Likes: 882
Posts: 5,927 Likes: 8,974
inherit
1561
0
8,974
Sanunes
Just a flip of the coin.
5,927
Sept 13, 2016 11:51:12 GMT
September 2016
sanunes
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
4392
882
|
Post by Sanunes on Nov 15, 2020 2:36:45 GMT
Since these lawsuits have been brought over different things it could be they are just seeing it as the cost of business when Ultimate Team brings in a billion dollars in FIFA. Absolutely. These lawsuit, at worst, cost EA a few million. But a few million in one country and having to retire lootboxes here, another such case there, another such case over there, eventually, EA will run out of countries they can implement lootboxes in. At some point the headache from litigations and the climbing costs, contrasted by the declining lootbox income will get to them. Of course, but from what I understand they have only been outright banned in one country. Even if this lawsuit is successful they can still just alter whatever people were upset about and then just continue business. Of course that depends on the court cases themselves, the only ones that I know EA has lost is when challenging the law in Belgium the other are still in the air and brought by players. So the ones brought by players I can see bring alterations to Ultimate Team, but doubtful they would be impactful enough to cause it to be removed.
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 15, 2020 7:11:53 GMT
Of course, but from what I understand they have only been outright banned in one country. Two, so far. Belgium and the Netherlands. Even if this lawsuit is successful they can still just alter whatever people were upset about and then just continue business. This class action lawsuit, however, targets the game mechanics and the scaling of difficulty/game grind. This would require a very basic rework of the games, if it were won.
|
|
eternalambiguity
N3
I am alive.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 281 Likes: 335
inherit
11548
0
Jun 17, 2023 20:35:13 GMT
335
eternalambiguity
I am alive.
281
June 2020
eternalambiguity
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by eternalambiguity on Nov 16, 2020 18:09:15 GMT
|
|
Hawke
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
Posts: 580 Likes: 1,511
inherit
1211
0
1,511
Hawke
580
Aug 25, 2016 19:27:08 GMT
August 2016
hawke
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
|
Post by Hawke on Nov 16, 2020 19:08:42 GMT
|
|
inherit
688
0
1,912
UutIVvdPw7END0Ef
1,517
August 2016
uutivvdpw7end0ef
Bottom
|
Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Nov 17, 2020 11:15:35 GMT
Big brain comment from John Epler, we can trace the rise of fascism to criticism of ME3 and DA2. archive.vn/W29Ll
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 17, 2020 11:25:38 GMT
Big brain comment from John Epler, we can trace the rise of fascism to criticism of ME3 and DA2. archive.vn/W29LlSo anyone who doesn't like Bioware games is literally Hitler? DA4 is going to be great. I can't wait! Please, John, attack the fans some more.
|
|
eternalambiguity
N3
I am alive.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 281 Likes: 335
inherit
11548
0
Jun 17, 2023 20:35:13 GMT
335
eternalambiguity
I am alive.
281
June 2020
eternalambiguity
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by eternalambiguity on Nov 17, 2020 13:38:59 GMT
Hmm. I can sort of see it for ME3, at least in the original form of GG: really weird industry collusion in an attempt to control the narrative on a game.
Of course trying to tie it to the later more political twist on GG is stupid. I don't remember any complaints about "muh politics in muh video games" for either ME or DA. Even "Sexuality in Thedas" didn't get much more than an eye-roll.
|
|
inherit
11346
0
May 30, 2024 23:07:52 GMT
1,380
skekSil
1,165
November 2019
skeksil
Mass Effect Trilogy, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by skekSil on Nov 17, 2020 18:38:48 GMT
Big brain comment from John Epler, we can trace the rise of fascism to criticism of ME3 and DA2. archive.vn/W29LlSo anyone who doesn't like Bioware games is literally Hitler? I have no idea how you can arrive to this conclusion if you have read the article.
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 17, 2020 18:46:13 GMT
I have no idea how you can arrive to this conclusion if you have read the article. Well, according to John, I am a fascist, because I didn't like either DA2 or ME3. The article dunks on John, sure, but John's not going to change his mind, over what Bouncing Into Comics says.
|
|
inherit
11346
0
May 30, 2024 23:07:52 GMT
1,380
skekSil
1,165
November 2019
skeksil
Mass Effect Trilogy, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by skekSil on Nov 17, 2020 18:54:40 GMT
I have no idea how you can arrive to this conclusion if you have read the article. Well, according to John, I am a fascist, because I didn't like either DA2 or ME3. The article dunks on John, sure, but John's not going to change his mind, over what Bouncing Into Comics says. Well, problem is, he never said that.
|
|
inherit
688
0
1,912
UutIVvdPw7END0Ef
1,517
August 2016
uutivvdpw7end0ef
Bottom
|
Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Nov 17, 2020 19:40:08 GMT
Well, according to John, I am a fascist, because I didn't like either DA2 or ME3. The article dunks on John, sure, but John's not going to change his mind, over what Bouncing Into Comics says. Well, problem is, he never said that. Criticizing ME3/DA2 = "GamerGate"* = fascism. *A non-existent and leaderless movement/organization, supposedly trolls, online harassment and death threats did not exist on the WWW prior to it's "creation" in 2014, the internet was apparently a utopia of civil online discourse before 2014.
|
|
inherit
11346
0
May 30, 2024 23:07:52 GMT
1,380
skekSil
1,165
November 2019
skeksil
Mass Effect Trilogy, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by skekSil on Nov 17, 2020 20:13:03 GMT
Well, problem is, he never said that. Criticizing ME3/DA2 = "GamerGate"* = fascism. *A non-existent and leaderless movement/organization, supposedly trolls, online harassment and death threats did not exist on the WWW prior to it's "creation" in 2014, the internet was apparently a utopia of civil online discourse before 2014. No, that does not follow.
|
|
inherit
ღ Twelfth Level Geek
139
0
8,905
Jeremiah12LGeek
Mostly silly, occasionally useful.
2,991
August 2016
jeremiah12thlvlgeek
Bottom
|
Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Nov 17, 2020 20:39:27 GMT
I realize this refers to going forward, but I'd say MS has already been there for a while. From what I remember, Fallout 3 worked pretty much the same on both systems (which is to say not well until the support cycle was finished, then mostly fine.) But New Vegas was definitely better on Xbox from a technical point of view (not Bethesda, I realize, but not much would have been different if it had been) and Fallout 4 was objectively better on Xbox One, if for no other reason than MS followed through on their promise to make mods available, while Sony mostly reneged on theirs. I haven't been keeping up, but if Sony has pulled back on their proprietary hangups for this generation, it will be better for developers (and consequently gamers) in that we can expect a more reliable parity for games on both systems. Except Bethesda games, if the CFO's intentions play out. : p
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 17, 2020 21:45:24 GMT
Well, problem is, he never said that. Did you read the article? Like UutIVvdPw7END0Ef even handily posts the screencaps. No, that does not follow. Yes, it does.
|
|
eternalambiguity
N3
I am alive.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 281 Likes: 335
inherit
11548
0
Jun 17, 2023 20:35:13 GMT
335
eternalambiguity
I am alive.
281
June 2020
eternalambiguity
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by eternalambiguity on Nov 17, 2020 21:45:48 GMT
I realize this refers to going forward, but I'd say MS has already been there for a while. From what I remember, Fallout 3 worked pretty much the same on both systems (which is to say not well until the support cycle was finished, then mostly fine.) But New Vegas was definitely better on Xbox from a technical point of view (not Bethesda, I realize, but not much would have been different if it had been) and Fallout 4 was objectively better on Xbox One, if for no other reason than MS followed through on their promise to make mods available, while Sony mostly reneged on theirs. I haven't been keeping up, but if Sony has pulled back on their proprietary hangups for this generation, it will be better for developers (and consequently gamers) in that we can expect a more reliable parity for games on both systems. Except Bethesda games, if the CFO's intentions play out. : p I don't remember any stories about dragons flying backwards on Xbox, so it's similar on the TES side
|
|
inherit
11346
0
May 30, 2024 23:07:52 GMT
1,380
skekSil
1,165
November 2019
skeksil
Mass Effect Trilogy, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by skekSil on Nov 17, 2020 22:08:57 GMT
Well, problem is, he never said that. Did you read the article? Like UutIVvdPw7END0Ef even handily posts the screencaps. No, that does not follow. Yes, it does. "Situation around DAI/ME3" =/= "Criticizing ME3/DA2" Neither is he equating GG to fashism in that post.
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 17, 2020 22:16:54 GMT
"Situation around DAI/ME3" =/= "Criticizing ME3/DA2" What was the situation around DA2/ME3? In your own words. Which, mind you, are not John Epler's words. Meaning that what you say is merely your "interpretation" of what John Epler is saying. Neither is he equating GG to fashism in that post. Which people were mad at game journalism? And what does "rapid ascent to journalism" link to people being mad at games journalists? Again, in your own words.
|
|
inherit
11346
0
May 30, 2024 23:07:52 GMT
1,380
skekSil
1,165
November 2019
skeksil
Mass Effect Trilogy, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by skekSil on Nov 17, 2020 23:59:18 GMT
What was the situation around DA2/ME3? In your own words. Which, mind you, are not John Epler's words. Meaning that what you say is merely your "interpretation" of what John Epler is saying. But we actually know what Epler ment: Are harrasment and death threats equal to critisism? Which people were mad at game journalism? And what does "rapid ascent to journalism" link to people being mad at games journalists? Again, in your own words. These people?:
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 18, 2020 0:12:57 GMT
But we actually know what Epler ment: Are harrasment and death threats equal to critisism? Who are these people? Where did he get the death threats? How are these people related to his comment to the criticism of games journalists? John Epler didn't say "fascists threatened to kill me" he talked about critics of DA2/ME3, their criticisms of game journalists and the rise of fascism. I could issue a death threat to John Epler because his dog ate my cat. None of these are, necessarily, related to anything you are referring to, or the way John is going about to refer to them, is not indicative of any one incident being related to the other. Who is this person? It's not John Epler. Who is he referring to? Is that person on record for issuing death threats? Is that a registered fascist? If they are a political pundit, then they must have some pretty clear political affiliations and therefore, easily identified. None of the things you are referring to seem to be backed up by anything. Just unsubstantiated claims. And for the record, I did urge John to continue on his anti-fascist tangent. Even going as far to endorse him, in calling me a fascist, through his words. I did not wish to silence John, or even wish to halt his advance. Not even to call his behaviour anti-professional or damaging to his company. I even said that I can't wait for DA4, of which he is in charge of. If anything, I want John to be as unhinged as he possibly can, hold nothing back and include as much of his political views in the game. I do believe it will do wonders for its narrative.
|
|
inherit
11346
0
May 30, 2024 23:07:52 GMT
1,380
skekSil
1,165
November 2019
skeksil
Mass Effect Trilogy, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by skekSil on Nov 18, 2020 0:38:19 GMT
But we actually know what Epler ment: Are harrasment and death threats equal to critisism? Who are these people? Where did he get the death threats? How are these people related to his comment to the criticism of games journalists? John Epler didn't say "fascists threatened to kill me" he talked about critics of DA2/ME3, their criticisms of game journalists and the rise of fascism. I could issue a death threat to John Epler because his dog ate my cat. None of these are, necessarily, related to anything you are referring to, or the way John is going about to refer to them, is not indicative of any one incident being related to the other. Who is this person? It's not John Epler. Who is he referring to? Is that person on record for issuing death threats? Is that a registered fascist? If they are a political pundit, then they must have some pretty clear political affiliations and therefore, easily identified. None of the things you are referring to seem to be backed up by anything. Just unsubstantiated claims. Read the article. And for the record, I did urge John to continue on his anti-fascist tangent. Even going as far to endorse him, in calling me a fascist, through his words. I did not wish to silence John, or even wish to halt his advance. Not even to call his behaviour anti-professional or damaging to his company. I even said that I can't wait for DA4, of which he is in charge of. If anything, I want John to be as unhinged as he possibly can, hold nothing back and include as much of his political views in the game. I do believe it will do wonders for its narrative. Im sure you did.
|
|
inherit
9105
0
Aug 11, 2017 18:04:01 GMT
8,817
slimgrin727
I don't stir, I work the material.
3,636
Jul 28, 2017 17:05:24 GMT
July 2017
slimgrin727
|
Post by slimgrin727 on Nov 18, 2020 0:51:23 GMT
Big brain comment from John Epler, we can trace the rise of fascism to criticism of ME3 and DA2. archive.vn/W29LlJesus that is conspiratorial. Maybe people just didn't like the game, John.
|
|