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Post by anarchy65 on Jan 16, 2019 17:27:07 GMT
You can see how many comments you want on a Bioware-fan forum. You can probably see people that liked No Man's Sky or Fallout 76, but those game will still be failures. And yeah, I got plenty of evidence to back my opinion, Bioware's actions regarding the game are enough to show, or have you ever seen a big success being treated like MEA was? Please. But again if you want to keep denying, be my guest. I still have to see a loved big success game being treated like MEA was. You are now putting words in my mouth, I never said that Andromeda was a big success either for all I have said is that it wasn't a failure. Just because other places on the internet agree with you doesn't mean you are right either look at the amount of people posting here versus the amount of unique visitors. There are too few people participating in the conversations there are just thousands of people participating in these conversations while I would think easily hundreds of thousands if not millions of people have played the game and have their own opinions. There is something called "samples". When you do researches, you obviously can't know what all people involved in what you want to ask will think because it would take a really big amount of time, so you take samples, groups of people that will represent the overall thinking of the whole. And these samples showed most people didn't like Andromeda, and you can see it anywhere in the internet that is not here (where most are Bioware fans and so their opinions would be a little more biased). In metacritic, for example, Andromeda's user score is 4.9 with over 3000 reviews. Even the critics classify it as a mediocre game. For an AAA game, especially from a big Bioware franchise, even being average is a failure (and average is the best most people think of Andromeda, but I personally would rate it 3 or 4/10). And sincerely, I really hope Bioware doesn't regard the opinion of people who think Mass Effect 2 was the worst game of the franchise, since it's the best and most loved by the fans. Actually many of the things they did in ME2 are what fans are missing in Bioware games nowadays.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 16, 2019 17:28:43 GMT
Do you really think they'd have dropped it and given us no DLC if it sold well? I mean yeah sure anything is possible, but it is pretty damn unlikely. I like the game, but it being a failure is the most likely option given how it was treated. Yes, if there were other problems at the studio and EA had no faith in the management or other problems that were there. An example would be if EA felt that the team in place there would make another mistake like procedural planets or even something as basic and they couldn't find another person to oversee the project for Mac Walters went back to Anthem from what I read when Andromeda shipped so there wasn't a person overseeing the studio at that point. Anything is possible, but given that they have the assets already making a expansion DLC is so much cheaper than a new game they end up being profitable with a lot less risk.
There are lots of things I like that just didn't do well, MEA is one of them. No DLC, no new ME on the horizon its hard to sell that as a success. Look at the gaps between ME1-2-3, we are looking at more of a ME3- MEA gap for the next one, you want to crank out followup stories quick while people are still invested in it. If you wait 5 years its a new game vibe not a 2 in a series.That's a creating distance between the games timeline not a look we were successful lets followup on it timeline.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 16, 2019 17:33:35 GMT
You can see how many comments you want on a Bioware-fan forum. You can probably see people that liked No Man's Sky or Fallout 76, but those game will still be failures. And yeah, I got plenty of evidence to back my opinion, Bioware's actions regarding the game are enough to show, or have you ever seen a big success being treated like MEA was? Please. But again if you want to keep denying, be my guest. I still have to see a loved big success game being treated like MEA was. You are now putting words in my mouth, I never said that Andromeda was a big success either for all I have said is that it wasn't a failure. Just because other places on the internet agree with you doesn't mean you are right either look at the amount of people posting here versus the amount of unique visitors. There are too few people participating in the conversations there are just thousands of people participating in these conversations while I would think easily hundreds of thousands if not millions of people have played the game and have their own opinions. I guess it depends on how you define failure. I'm sure it made a profit, but I doubt it made near its expected profit. I'd call that a failure. Are average reviews a success, failure or in between? I'd call it a failure because your goal should be great with above average/good as your bottom goal.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 16, 2019 18:10:16 GMT
You are now putting words in my mouth, I never said that Andromeda was a big success either for all I have said is that it wasn't a failure. Just because other places on the internet agree with you doesn't mean you are right either look at the amount of people posting here versus the amount of unique visitors. There are too few people participating in the conversations there are just thousands of people participating in these conversations while I would think easily hundreds of thousands if not millions of people have played the game and have their own opinions. I guess it depends on how you define failure. I'm sure it made a profit, but I doubt it made near its expected profit. I'd call that a failure. Are average reviews a success, failure or in between? I'd call it a failure because your goal should be great with above average/good as your bottom goal. The problem is then almost everything in life is a failure if it has to meet or exceed all goals or it is then a failure. Plenty of times things are disappointing because you were hoping for more then what you got, but it still was a success. I really don't consider finishing second place in a tournament to be a failure either, its a disappointing turnout and at the same time you did better then others. You mention average reviews, but then if average is failure what does bad reviews mean, if making a profit is a failure then losing money is a worse then, but then its the same category. There are plenty of shades of grey and when it comes to a company my experience is that Andromeda might not even be considered disappointing depending on the money the game has made with MP MTX sales for that is where the real profit is anymore for companies like EA.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 16, 2019 18:15:16 GMT
Yes, if there were other problems at the studio and EA had no faith in the management or other problems that were there. An example would be if EA felt that the team in place there would make another mistake like procedural planets or even something as basic and they couldn't find another person to oversee the project for Mac Walters went back to Anthem from what I read when Andromeda shipped so there wasn't a person overseeing the studio at that point. Anything is possible, but given that they have the assets already making a expansion DLC is so much cheaper than a new game they end up being profitable with a lot less risk.
There are lots of things I like that just didn't do well, MEA is one of them. No DLC, no new ME on the horizon its hard to sell that as a success. Look at the gaps between ME1-2-3, we are looking at more of a ME3- MEA gap for the next one, you want to crank out followup stories quick while people are still invested in it. If you wait 5 years its a new game vibe not a 2 in a series.That's a creating distance between the games timeline not a look we were successful lets followup on it timeline.
Look at the length of time after release that the first DLC would have been released as well. It probably would have been 9+ months and normally that is when DLC sales are really low. Its really the first three or so months when you want DLC sales because that is when the game is still selling its the same thing with copy protection, the publishers don't care if the game is eventually broken, but the first three months is the golden window. If I recall correctly they were patching Andromeda for about six to seven months, add three months for a DLC (only a guess for that is the space between BioWare's DLC normally) and you have 10 months and that is a dead window. Its one of the reasons cited to why expansion packs are rarely made now because it would take a year or so to make one and then people have moved on to other games.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 16, 2019 19:00:35 GMT
You are now putting words in my mouth, I never said that Andromeda was a big success either for all I have said is that it wasn't a failure. Just because other places on the internet agree with you doesn't mean you are right either look at the amount of people posting here versus the amount of unique visitors. There are too few people participating in the conversations there are just thousands of people participating in these conversations while I would think easily hundreds of thousands if not millions of people have played the game and have their own opinions. There is something called "samples". When you do researches, you obviously can't know what all people involved in what you want to ask will think because it would take a really big amount of time, so you take samples, groups of people that will represent the overall thinking of the whole. And these samples showed most people didn't like Andromeda, and you can see it anywhere in the internet that is not here (where most are Bioware fans and so their opinions would be a little more biased). In metacritic, for example, Andromeda's user score is 4.9 with over 3000 reviews. Even the critics classify it as a mediocre game. For an AAA game, especially from a big Bioware franchise, even being average is a failure (and average is the best most people think of Andromeda, but I personally would rate it 3 or 4/10). And sincerely, I really hope Bioware doesn't regard the opinion of people who think Mass Effect 2 was the worst game of the franchise, since it's the best and most loved by the fans. Actually many of the things they did in ME2 are what fans are missing in Bioware games nowadays. I wouldn’t trust user scores considering that they have a tendency to review bomb a game they don’t like. COD is often a target though it always sells well.
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Post by anarchy65 on Jan 16, 2019 19:28:46 GMT
There is something called "samples". When you do researches, you obviously can't know what all people involved in what you want to ask will think because it would take a really big amount of time, so you take samples, groups of people that will represent the overall thinking of the whole. And these samples showed most people didn't like Andromeda, and you can see it anywhere in the internet that is not here (where most are Bioware fans and so their opinions would be a little more biased). In metacritic, for example, Andromeda's user score is 4.9 with over 3000 reviews. Even the critics classify it as a mediocre game. For an AAA game, especially from a big Bioware franchise, even being average is a failure (and average is the best most people think of Andromeda, but I personally would rate it 3 or 4/10). And sincerely, I really hope Bioware doesn't regard the opinion of people who think Mass Effect 2 was the worst game of the franchise, since it's the best and most loved by the fans. Actually many of the things they did in ME2 are what fans are missing in Bioware games nowadays. I wouldn’t trust user scores considering that they have a tendency to review bomb a game they don’t like. COD is often a target though it always sells well. "Bombing a game they don't like" shows how many people really didn't like the game. It's at least a bigger sample than BSN boards. It's funny how far people go to deny the obvious.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 16, 2019 19:32:34 GMT
I guess it depends on how you define failure. I'm sure it made a profit, but I doubt it made near its expected profit. I'd call that a failure. Are average reviews a success, failure or in between? I'd call it a failure because your goal should be great with above average/good as your bottom goal. The problem is then almost everything in life is a failure if it has to meet or exceed all goals or it is then a failure. Plenty of times things are disappointing because you were hoping for more then what you got, but it still was a success. I really don't consider finishing second place in a tournament to be a failure either, its a disappointing turnout and at the same time you did better then others. You mention average reviews, but then if average is failure what does bad reviews mean, if making a profit is a failure then losing money is a worse then, but then its the same category. There are plenty of shades of grey and when it comes to a company my experience is that Andromeda might not even be considered disappointing depending on the money the game has made with MP MTX sales for that is where the real profit is anymore for companies like EA. Most places have a range of goals, and if you miss the low end yeah its considered a failure. If I invest $100 and make a $2 profit I made a profit but 2% is savings account type profit so that would be a failure as virtually any other successful investment would be better. If i'm in a race i'm shooting for #1 and I'd still consider 2 or 3 a success, heck maybe even the top 10 depending on the times because I'm within reach of winning, but if out of 100 I ranked 35 or 50 and I'm in it to win it, I'd call that a failure. You shoot for great reviews, anything down to good probably falls into some measure of success range, but average? any company can slap out a average game. That kind of stuff actually damages your reputation and would be a failure.
I actively like the game, the game play is fun, the story while generic is entertaining, I don't care for Ryder or the crew much but there were memorable characters with Tann being perhaps my favorite Bioware side character ever, Addison being a great hate her foil, the Vistas were just stunning I could roll over a hill in eos and just stop and look, driving the nomad was fun especially in a low G environment, the hang time achievement was awesome to get even if I had to plug in a controller to pull it off, the MP was fun for me up until they made maxing a manifest seem impossible. But I think its being overly optimistic to see it as a success or anything but a failure, though as they keep their financials sealed we will never really know, but I think statements from staff about its reception are indicative of a failure.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 16, 2019 19:40:48 GMT
I wouldn’t trust user scores considering that they have a tendency to review bomb a game they don’t like. COD is often a target though it always sells well. "Bombing a game they don't like" shows how many people really didn't like the game. It's at least a bigger sample than BSN boards. It's funny how far people go to deny the obvious. Most of those reviews: "SJW!" or "My face is tired!" the reviews aren't in depth nor even explore the game's strengths or weakness and It's pretty obvious that they didn't even buy the game.
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Post by anarchy65 on Jan 16, 2019 19:53:23 GMT
"Bombing a game they don't like" shows how many people really didn't like the game. It's at least a bigger sample than BSN boards. It's funny how far people go to deny the obvious. Most of those reviews: "SJW!" or "My face is tired!" the reviews aren't in depth nor even explore the game's strengths or weakness and It's pretty obvious that they didn't even buy the game. Did you count how many reviews were like this to know if they played the game or not? Just as there are negative reviews from people who didn't play the game, many times there are positive reviews from bots/people paid by developers/developers themselves. But this kind of reviews alone are not enough to make a game go down to a score of 4 or 5 (otherwise, pretty much all Bioware games would have this rate, since all of them are actually "SJW"). I'd like to clear MEA isn't a bad game because of those reviews, but they just show that a very large number of people didn't like the game and, at best, found it to be painfully average.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 16, 2019 23:34:52 GMT
Most of those reviews: "SJW!" or "My face is tired!" the reviews aren't in depth nor even explore the game's strengths or weakness and It's pretty obvious that they didn't even buy the game. Did you count how many reviews were like this to know if they played the game or not? Just as there are negative reviews from people who didn't play the game, many times there are positive reviews from bots/people paid by developers/developers themselves. But this kind of reviews alone are not enough to make a game go down to a score of 4 or 5 (otherwise, pretty much all Bioware games would have this rate, since all of them are actually "SJW"). I'd like to clear MEA isn't a bad game because of those reviews, but they just show that a very large number of people didn't like the game and, at best, found it to be painfully average. You can easily tell which reviews are just review bombing. The amount of zeroes and ones on them is staggering and i did read some of them it’s often same old drivel.
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Post by anarchy65 on Jan 16, 2019 23:56:33 GMT
Did you count how many reviews were like this to know if they played the game or not? Just as there are negative reviews from people who didn't play the game, many times there are positive reviews from bots/people paid by developers/developers themselves. But this kind of reviews alone are not enough to make a game go down to a score of 4 or 5 (otherwise, pretty much all Bioware games would have this rate, since all of them are actually "SJW"). I'd like to clear MEA isn't a bad game because of those reviews, but they just show that a very large number of people didn't like the game and, at best, found it to be painfully average. You can easily tell which reviews are just review bombing. The amount of zeroes and ones on them is staggering and i did read some of them it’s often same old drivel. Like I said, these reviews alone can't make a game go that low. Next you are saying the critics are "bombing" the game as well.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 18, 2019 1:00:15 GMT
There is something called "samples". When you do researches, you obviously can't know what all people involved in what you want to ask will think because it would take a really big amount of time, so you take samples, groups of people that will represent the overall thinking of the whole. And these samples showed most people didn't like Andromeda, and you can see it anywhere in the internet that is not here (where most are Bioware fans and so their opinions would be a little more biased). In metacritic, for example, Andromeda's user score is 4.9 with over 3000 reviews. Even the critics classify it as a mediocre game. For an AAA game, especially from a big Bioware franchise, even being average is a failure (and average is the best most people think of Andromeda, but I personally would rate it 3 or 4/10). And sincerely, I really hope Bioware doesn't regard the opinion of people who think Mass Effect 2 was the worst game of the franchise, since it's the best and most loved by the fans. Actually many of the things they did in ME2 are what fans are missing in Bioware games nowadays. I wouldn’t trust user scores considering that they have a tendency to review bomb a game they don’t like. COD is often a target though it always sells well.
User scores and sites like Steam, Metacritic, and Rotten Tomatoes are TRASH anyone who believes the non-critic reviews are just plain old fucking STUPID.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 18, 2019 1:18:40 GMT
I wouldn’t trust user scores considering that they have a tendency to review bomb a game they don’t like. COD is often a target though it always sells well.
User scores and sites like Steam, Metacritic, and Rotten Tomatoes are TRASH anyone who believes the non-critic reviews are just plain old fucking STUPID.
Not as dumb as people who believe critic reviews. All reviews have some level of value. They can give a general consensus feel, the ones with details can cue you into your likes and dislikes. None should just be accepted as gospel but they all have some value in helping you decide how you want to spend your money.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 18, 2019 3:01:26 GMT
User scores and sites like Steam, Metacritic, and Rotten Tomatoes are TRASH anyone who believes the non-critic reviews are just plain old fucking STUPID.
Not as dumb as people who believe critic reviews. All reviews have some level of value. They can give a general consensus feel, the ones with details can cue you into your likes and dislikes. None should just be accepted as gospel but they all have some value in helping you decide how you want to spend your money. I haven't bought it, but its an EA product 0/10. No value review. If someone wants to say something about the game instead of quoting memes then I will give them a shot, but it has to be more then just reading a reddit post.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 18, 2019 5:48:32 GMT
Not as dumb as people who believe critic reviews. All reviews have some level of value. They can give a general consensus feel, the ones with details can cue you into your likes and dislikes. None should just be accepted as gospel but they all have some value in helping you decide how you want to spend your money. I haven't bought it, but its an EA product 0/10. No value review. If someone wants to say something about the game instead of quoting memes then I will give them a shot, but it has to be more then just reading a reddit post. Sure. But that’s usually a small percentage of the reviews and is usually balanced by the x game is the best ever 10/10 it’s made by my favorite unicorn developer, I’d give it a 7 but I saw someone gave it a 1 so I’m giving it a 10 etc. The largest % are probably usually fairly honest with their number but lite on the details for why they gave it.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 18, 2019 6:55:44 GMT
I haven't bought it, but its an EA product 0/10. No value review. If someone wants to say something about the game instead of quoting memes then I will give them a shot, but it has to be more then just reading a reddit post. Sure. But that’s usually a small percentage of the reviews and is usually balanced by the x game is the best ever 10/10 it’s made by my favorite unicorn developer, I’d give it a 7 but I saw someone gave it a 1 so I’m giving it a 10 etc. The largest % are probably usually fairly honest with their number but lite on the details for why they gave it. That is the problem with user reviews for they are too light on details. I normally don't care what the final score is, its the content of the review that matters for me. Its the same with movies for the reviewer might absolutely hate what they are reviewing, but after hearing their reasons I know I will like it and of course the reverse is true too.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 18, 2019 8:59:48 GMT
If I had to change anything at all about MEA, it would be to move the location to a remote section of the MW beyond the reach of mass effect relays. It would almost have the same effect as being in another galaxy but instead have more of the feeling of exploration rather than flight. Sort of like exploring the middle of a continent beyond the reach of boats and wagons. You'd have to do it on foot or horse, which would take much longer.
Maybe it would be called Mass Effect: Explorers (or something more interesting). In any case, it wouldn't completely remove them from things. This would leave the door open should BioWare decide to revisit the known areas of the MW. Beyond the setting, most everything else could remain the same.
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Post by Sifr on Jan 18, 2019 9:12:09 GMT
Without confirming any of the endings of ME3 as canon, I'd have included some mystery that hints that some survivors from the Milky Way may have arrived in Andromeda before the Arks, despite leaving centuries afterwards, by exploiting some hitherto unknown technology (perhaps Reaper tech) to shorten the time needed to make the intergalactic trip. This is actually a pretty common science-fiction concept. One of the keys issues with sleeper ships is that technology carries on, so you might wake up at your destination to find that the planet has already been colonised centuries earlier by a later expedition, who took advantage of faster ships to get their sooner. Andromeda even played with a similar idea at the beginning of the game, that despite the Habitats being "Golden Worlds" when the Ark's left, the Scourge and Vault malfunctions have rendered them largely uninhabitable by the time they arrived six centuries later. We already got the reveal that the Milky Way went to pot after the Arks left, so expanding on that by discovering "someone or something from the Milky Way survived and arrived here before us", would be another piece of the puzzle. A corrupted Reaper that's went rogue, Leviathans or Yahg would be great options as to the identity of our mystery survivor(s).
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Post by anarchy65 on Jan 18, 2019 12:54:00 GMT
I wouldn’t trust user scores considering that they have a tendency to review bomb a game they don’t like. COD is often a target though it always sells well.
User scores and sites like Steam, Metacritic, and Rotten Tomatoes are TRASH anyone who believes the non-critic reviews are just plain old fucking STUPID.
It's not about making a conclusion if he game is good or not, but if in a general consensus, people liked it or not. For that, these websites can be useful. More useful than a forum anyway. Steam even more, because the chance the person actually played the game is higher, since the person must have the game on the library to review it. The quality of the review doesn't really matter, what matters is if the person liked it or not.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 18, 2019 14:10:38 GMT
User scores and sites like Steam, Metacritic, and Rotten Tomatoes are TRASH anyone who believes the non-critic reviews are just plain old fucking STUPID.
It's not about making a conclusion if he game is good or not, but if in a general consensus, people liked it or not. For that, these websites can be useful. More useful than a forum anyway. Steam even more, because the chance the person actually played the game is higher, since the person must have the game on the library to review it. The quality of the review doesn't really matter, what matters is if the person liked it or not. I don't think it matters if a person liked a game or not for people like different things in different games. Two of my closest friends really like Andromeda because it gave them the feelings of Mass Effect 1. Now I am not saying that is an opinion everyone shares, but just having a thumbs up or thumbs down is worthless when you want to know why someone liked a game or not for the people that think the same way as my friends would give it a thumbs up, but others will definitely give the game a thumbs down. Information without context is worthless.
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Post by anarchy65 on Jan 18, 2019 14:28:41 GMT
It's not about making a conclusion if he game is good or not, but if in a general consensus, people liked it or not. For that, these websites can be useful. More useful than a forum anyway. Steam even more, because the chance the person actually played the game is higher, since the person must have the game on the library to review it. The quality of the review doesn't really matter, what matters is if the person liked it or not. I don't think it matters if a person liked a game or not for people like different things in different games. Two of my closest friends really like Andromeda because it gave them the feelings of Mass Effect 1. Now I am not saying that is an opinion everyone shares, but just having a thumbs up or thumbs down is worthless when you want to know why someone liked a game or not for the people that think the same way as my friends would give it a thumbs up, but others will definitely give the game a thumbs down. Information without context is worthless. Most people didn't like the game, and that's what we were discussing here. EVERYTHING points to that: general bad reviews, closing of the studio, game being abandoned, etc, but it seems some fans just keep coming with excuses to deny an obvious truth.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 18, 2019 14:31:45 GMT
I don't think it matters if a person liked a game or not for people like different things in different games. Two of my closest friends really like Andromeda because it gave them the feelings of Mass Effect 1. Now I am not saying that is an opinion everyone shares, but just having a thumbs up or thumbs down is worthless when you want to know why someone liked a game or not for the people that think the same way as my friends would give it a thumbs up, but others will definitely give the game a thumbs down. Information without context is worthless. Most people didn't like the game, and that's what we were discussing here. EVERYTHING points to that: general bad reviews, closing of the studio, game being abandoned, etc, but it seems some fans just keep coming with excuses to deny an obvious truth. Might want to stop reading between all the lines I type. People do like the game and a simple thumbs up or thumbs down won't tell people that might not like the same things as you do and give more information about the game isn't bad for what they like in a game.
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Post by anarchy65 on Jan 18, 2019 14:34:22 GMT
Most people didn't like the game, and that's what we were discussing here. EVERYTHING points to that: general bad reviews, closing of the studio, game being abandoned, etc, but it seems some fans just keep coming with excuses to deny an obvious truth. Might want to stop reading between all the lines I type. People do like the game and a simple thumbs up or thumbs down won't tell people that might not like the same things as you do and more information about the game isn't bad. Yeah, I stop reading at "people do like the game".
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