Star Wars: The Old Republic Discussion

Jun 29, 2017 13:54:51 GMT cmoe said:

Jun 29, 2017 12:23:12 GMT @carefull said:

Which one you started on? I started Zabrack Sage and Cyborg Sniper as my free trial ones, but levelled Consular and Twilek Smuggler to the end of the story first, in parallel, with Sith Marauder slightly behind. Then I co-levelled Ratattaki Sorc and Mirialian Vanguard. then PT Cathar, and changed my Sniper into Chiss to finish her off, Miraluka Knight, Twilek Scoundrel (changed him into a Togruta later) and a Cathar Operative. Then a Miri Mando with Sith Merc, and Togruta Shadow/Sith Sin, oh, and a Togruta DPS Sorcerer.  I think I was on my Twilek Juggernaut story-wise when I was done. Bunch of other combos, but those were the story/romances class "canons" for me. Mmgh... can I organize it better?

okay, my canons...

Zabrack F!Sage +Zenith/iresso
Miri M!vanguard + Elara
F!Twilek Gunslinger + Riggs/Theron, M!Togruta Sawbones + Ataavi (d.risha)
M!Miraluka Guardian, chaste

F!Sith Mara  + Pierce; M!Twilek Juggernaut + Vette
M!Rattataki Sorc + Ashara/Cytherat/Shan
F!Cathar Powerteck d. torian, 
M!Cathar Medicine Operative, everything that moves, d. Kaliyo, d.Raina, d.some girl (he thinks she filed)

I'm only in the Jedi Knight prologue, I'm slow with learning the ropes. Is there a benefit to running another class story at the same time or do you like the variety?

At the time I started, there was a practical benefit because gearing was so hard solo and specific companions had very specific crafting perks. So, I was developing the crafting skills that would give me gear (you also had to gear the companion as well) I would otherwise not be able to obtain. Plus, certain gathering/crafting skills at the time allowed you to earn credits on GTN - something that was uber hard at the time. I needed to buy a few things that really made the difference at the time, like crystals, and full orange collectible sets... it is no longer relevant now when Legacy gear drops like rain on a solo player. 

On the story-level, that's like Origins on steroids, so some stories you'd like, some you won't. Again, back in the time, you had to do all the side content if you did not do PvP or Flashpoints (no solo Flashpoints at the time)  so there was an advantage to do the story and the character you were in love with first, because 4 times in a row through planetary stories might have prevented you from finishing a story for someone you totally loved. With later chars, and as the rules changed, I just was able to run class story and whatever form of the MP content I intended the char for, PvP, FPs or GSF.

Finally, I wanted to unlock certain races for ALL classes, which at the time happened at level 50. That benefit remained after sub expired. When I started, I wanted a legacy of Twileks   and I intended to drop to preferred status. That intention changed once I got into the multiplayer content.

Oh, and I also played my Consular paired with my husband's Knight and he did not have as much time to play as I did, so I had to have alts to play on my own whenever.

Jun 29, 2017 15:18:26 GMT cmoe said:

Jun 29, 2017 15:05:56 GMT CrutchCricket said:

I assure you, you were.

PVE= Player vs Environment.
PVP= Player Vs Player.

Questing, doing the class stories etc. fall under the former. So unless you want to try and beat up people your first time out, you're doing PVE

Thinks she will crawl back into her SP RPG hole. Doesn't like people running around on her lawn anyway.

Oh, don't worry, the lingo is just pervasive. So, here is a quick run-down.

PvE is divided into the solo component - you do it yourself with a companion, and the MP component.

The MP PvE component consists of the Heroics you can still group up for, Flashpoints and Operations. Flashpoints are either Trinity-based (where everyone needs to know their specific role) and Tactical - where you just pound on the stuff and hope for the best. They are done in 4 people groups. Operations start at level 50, and are very elaborate, done either in 8 or 16 people groups. Some of them are events specific, and include only one boss. Most of them are a 4 bosses set up with lots of mobs in between and at least one puzzle. Each boss fight involves a "mechanics" which means that you have to do specific positioning, designate a person to activate some sort of a trigger; have someone distract multiple bosses; group has to split up to kill things in a particular order, etc. You can always watch guys doing those things on the net, Dulfy's site will have all them described and recorded

The PvP component consists of the flight simulator (Galactic Starfighter) and "ground" PvP (warzones). The GSF is basically... well, a flight simulator where you either play a game of eliminating as many of the rival ships as you can or king of the hill; I think they are 16 pilots games and 8 pilots games. The ground PvP has a non-competitive segment that consists of the objective-based PvP (defending positions or scoring) for 8 people games, and deathmatches in 4M format. They also have a competitive format PVP, where winning the arena deathmatches increases your standing in a PvP season.

Finally, there is a so-called Open World PvP segment where you divide either by faction or enter a free for all area to duke it out with other players. Those are most prominent during the Ilum Relics of the Gree and the Rakghoul Plague events in the Tunnels. If you want to try the event, I suggest asking about it beforehand so you know what to do if you have no interest in fighting others.

Jun 29, 2017 16:47:01 GMT Hawke said:

I started playing about a week ago (Jedi Knight, finishing Coruscant) and it has been fairly monotonous so far (jump to an enemy => gain Focus => release Focus; repeat until dead). The companion ensures my survival, so it is hard to lose. Does the gameplay become more engaging or should I try another class? How long it takes to beat Knight's story/questline?

You will gain an "Advanced" class at Level 10. At that point as a Knight you can either specialize as a tank/DPS (Guardian) or as a pure DPS class (Sentinel). At level 65 you will have about 42 skills between your primary attack rotation, defenses, utilities and things specific to either PvP or PvE.

The SP campaign is very easy overall nowadays. The challenging fighting is in the MP content. You can put the companion into a stance that makes you feel like you do more. I dunno how involved solo Flashpoints are, but you would have had by now the taste of it when you did the haul from Tython to Courscant (did you chose to do the flashpoint or just go to Courscant?)

The best way to start figuring your class used to be playing warzones in my time, but it probably not really that great right now, summer, and no population.

When I left, it probably took about 15 hours to go through the class story if you did not do the Planetary storyline.

Jedi Knight is overall my least favorite class and story, but obviously, it's very personal.