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Post by CrutchCricket on Apr 4, 2018 18:18:00 GMT
Umm, isn't there a "real" Operation option as well? Not for the fight, just what you do leading up to it. After the intro Yavin mission you get a choice on how to taken down Revan's forces and clear the path to Revan himself: rally the new alliance (do the daily missions solo) or gather badasses to assault the temple directly (operation). Both then lead to the final Revan fight which is the same regardless.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 4, 2018 20:28:17 GMT
Umm, isn't there a "real" Operation option as well? Not for the fight, just what you do leading up to it. After the intro Yavin mission you get a choice on how to taken down Revan's forces and clear the path to Revan himself: rally the new alliance (do the daily missions solo) or gather badasses to assault the temple directly (operation). Both then lead to the final Revan fight which is the same regardless. Okay, I did not know that. But at least there is a solo path to facing Revan. Unlike, say the Dread Masters, or the gods of Iokath.
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Post by Lazarillo on Apr 5, 2018 0:43:35 GMT
Umm, isn't there a "real" Operation option as well? Not for the fight, just what you do leading up to it. After the intro Yavin mission you get a choice on how to taken down Revan's forces and clear the path to Revan himself: rally the new alliance (do the daily missions solo) or gather badasses to assault the temple directly (operation). Both then lead to the final Revan fight which is the same regardless. You mean the same is in mobbing him with a bunch of people? Because the Ops fight in and of itself has some pretty different mechanics and is in theory at least supposed to complete the story mission for you as well. I've never done it that way so maybe it's been bugged all along and doesn't. But it's supposed to.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Apr 5, 2018 14:30:13 GMT
You mean the same is in mobbing him with a bunch of people? Because the Ops fight in and of itself has some pretty different mechanics and is in theory at least supposed to complete the story mission for you as well. I've never done it that way so maybe it's been bugged all along and doesn't. But it's supposed to. No, literally the same, as in you have to do the solo fight after the Operation. The operation was never meant to replace the final fight, just what you do to get to it. In any case, making Revan an OP boss is wank, even if they pulled another Oricon and that was the only option. It's nigh impossible to justify why any one humanoid has millions of HP and can hold off 8-16 instances of the galaxy's greatest warriors at bay and without instantly wiping the floor with them. Pretty sure EU Palpatine or Luke couldn't do that unless they evoked some Force-Black-Hole shenanigans in which case it still wouldn't be a protracted fight, it'd just be insta-smiting. I think at best story-friendly raid "bosses" would be giant creatures or droids, and instead of just wailing on them with a lightsaber, the fight would be super mechanics/puzzle heavy, possibly Shadow of the Colossus style. Or groups of individuals, like the Dread Masters final fight. Their whole schtick was supposed to be merging their craziness together to achieve what they did so that made more sense. Fighting each individually and having it go on so long? Not as much. Except Brontes. Her voice can do anything she wants.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Apr 17, 2018 18:28:18 GMT
What does everyone think will be found on Nathema? I was really hoping that's where we'd see Kira and Scourge....but it sounds like it's not time for their return yet. Another missed opportunity But at least my Consular will FINALLY get Iresso back. I just hope that bug she had in Chapter 2 of KotFE didn't permanently destroy their romance.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 17, 2018 18:58:52 GMT
What does everyone think will be found on Nathema? I was really hoping that's where we'd see Kira and Scourge....but it sounds like it's not time for their return yet. Another missed opportunity But at least my Consular will FINALLY get Iresso back. I just hope that bug she had in Chapter 2 of KotFE didn't permanently destroy their romance. Iresso, Mako, and Akaavi if I heard right.
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Post by bshep on Apr 17, 2018 19:26:12 GMT
Doesn't really matter to me unless they also come back with nice stories. Scourge was such a interesting character that it would be a waste for him to come back just to have a few extra lines in dialogue.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 17, 2018 19:39:24 GMT
Doesn't really matter to me unless they also come back with nice stories. Scourge was such a interesting character that it would be a waste for him to come back just to have a few extra lines in dialogue. I wouldn't count on any old companions having interesting stories anymore. At this point only T7, Gault, and Raina are guaranteed to be alive and recruited. Why waste resources on characters who might or might not be around? My guess is next expansion everyone's getting some new companions to hang out with.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Apr 18, 2018 18:35:30 GMT
Doesn't really matter to me unless they also come back with nice stories. Scourge was such a interesting character that it would be a waste for him to come back just to have a few extra lines in dialogue. I wouldn't count on any old companions having interesting stories anymore. At this point only T7, Gault, and Raina are guaranteed to be alive and recruited. Why waste resources on characters who might or might not be around? My guess is next expansion everyone's getting some new companions to hang out with. I would hope for more content for our original companions (they are the ones I care about), but my guess is you're right. I was really upset when they started to allow kill options for most of the companions, I knew it was a bad sign for them, but people kept screaming for the option. Now, here we are. They're just cutouts that stand around in the background and don't contribute anything to the story anymore Hell, most the time SWtOR forces on us what companion we get to use in the new stuff. I only recruited the Star Forge companions on my main because we have too many as it is. I don't need them and I don't use them. I just needed the achievements At any rate, I want to be hopeful that the returns coming up will be "more and better" but I'm not going to hold my breath. It makes me sad
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 21:43:15 GMT
I think it's time for the obligatory SWTOR is doomed post So... SWTOR is doomed!!
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Apr 19, 2018 18:01:42 GMT
I think it's time for the obligatory SWTOR is doomed post So... SWTOR is doomed!! NO! P.S. I never finished either one of the KotOR games
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2018 18:10:59 GMT
P.S. I never finished either one of the KotOR games Shame on you!
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Apr 19, 2018 18:14:58 GMT
P.S. I never finished either one of the KotOR games Shame on you! I was waiting for that
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Post by aoibhealfae on Apr 22, 2018 11:24:23 GMT
Let just say, SWTOR is more alive than MEA.... *snorts*.
KOTOR and KOTOR2 are both great storytelling-wise. But combat-wise is such a drag.... I never miss turned based RNG fights. And there's like very minimal customization available even with mods on steam.
I always go back to SWTOR for my pretties...
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Post by warden on Apr 22, 2018 16:33:34 GMT
I wonder how many cartel coins I have thanks to the security key, has been long since I last logged in.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Apr 22, 2018 17:38:27 GMT
Let just say, SWTOR is more alive than MEA.... *snorts*. KOTOR and KOTOR2 are both great storytelling-wise. But combat-wise is such a drag.... I never miss turned based RNG fights. And there's like very minimal customization available even with mods on steam. I always go back to SWTOR for my pretties... That's why I stopped playing both. I was enjoying the story but combat was such a slog I just couldn't keep playing Hope you're still enjoying Arcann! warden you get 100 cc for a security key.
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Post by warden on Apr 22, 2018 17:40:10 GMT
I know, I just was curious trying to do some calculations, I should log in in the main website and check.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Apr 22, 2018 17:41:19 GMT
I know, I just was curious trying to do some calculations, I should log in in the main website and check. Yep, if you log in your account you can find out what your cc balance is!
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Post by aoibhealfae on Apr 23, 2018 3:40:47 GMT
I'm fairly peachy, between the real Arcann loving on twitter and replaying KOTFE and KOTET for Arcann in the game. Turned preferred status a while ago so I couldn't hang out in the forums. Been making friends with Reylo fandom to consider playing SWTOR because we got our version of forbidden romance here.
For 5.9, kinda disappointed that my lover couldn't join me on Nathema. I really want this Lana and Theron show to end.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Apr 23, 2018 22:44:53 GMT
I'm fairly peachy, between the real Arcann loving on twitter and replaying KOTFE and KOTET for Arcann in the game. Turned preferred status a while ago so I couldn't hang out in the forums. Been making friends with Reylo fandom to consider playing SWTOR because we got our version of forbidden romance here. For 5.9, kinda disappointed that my lover couldn't join me on Nathema. I really want this Lana and Theron show to end. I knew you were really hoping for this romance so I'm glad that it happened and that you enjoy it! I'll be glad when they go back to not picking which companion we bring with us on missions. At least, I hope that's what we return to. I miss it.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Apr 24, 2018 3:24:29 GMT
Its brief (like.. obviously), and really sweet. Naturally, people want more but the scene doesn't really show its timeline. I could still headcanon they're secretly a couple in KOTET's later chapters.
I know people do shit on it.. but what is new with this fandom.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on May 5, 2018 16:53:31 GMT
So, I don't know if you guys remembered but in Chapter 2 of KotFE my main character (Consular) didn't have her romance acknowledged and she never received a letter from Iresso. It was eventually fixed but they never said if it would be retroactive. So I spent nearly 3 years worrying that when Felix returned he would have forgotten that he had a relationship with Nayelii. Therefore pretty much ruining her story I started when the game first released.
Well, he returned and good news, he still loved her! I know a lot of people don't like the Consular story and many find Iresso boring. But *I* love the Consular story and I also truly like and enjoy Iresso. I wish the return had been longer, as they're all too short these days, but I'll take what I can get.
So, here is their reunion, spoilers obviously:
I also uploaded all cutscenes of The Nathema Conspiracy starring my trooper who romanced Theron if anyone wants to watch that as well! (I also liked the FP).
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Post by aoibhealfae on May 6, 2018 5:58:55 GMT
I tried romancing him but Iresso seemed too honorable to pursue my Consular and I'm playing a Jedi who adhere to her code to pursue him directly. It felt natural for them both to keep seeing each other professionally. Even with the delay, its quite relief to see an overall positive reaction to the patch. Consular finally get a companion return, main BH players get Mako back, all Smuggler companions returned. Scourge, Kira and Jaesa return seems to be eminent. Lana and Theron. Even I got lovely Arcann moment although I still preferred to have him on the mission.. but breadcrumbs nonetheless. Ah, unlock sales. My cc reserved reduced to 7cc.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on May 6, 2018 17:01:39 GMT
You're right aoibhealfae, response has seemed mostly postive and that makes me pretty happy. I hope that the game continues to go in the right direction. And as someone who recently returned to WoW to give it another shot, I hope they copy absolutely NOTHING from that game going forward. UGH.
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Post by lilyenachaos on May 6, 2018 20:11:58 GMT
You're right aoibhealfae , response has seemed mostly postive and that makes me pretty happy. I hope that the game continues to go in the right direction. And as someone who recently returned to WoW to give it another shot, I hope they copy absolutely NOTHING from that game going forward. UGH. Is it that bad? I was thinking about going back depending on when the new SWTOR stuff drops.
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