Mass Effect 2 nine years later

I started the series late and my last playthrough of ME2 was sometime in mid 2018. It still plays well and I had fun playing it. Planet scanning was boring though.

My only real issue is that most of the loyalty missions were either lame or repetitive. And the aliens somehow felt less alien than they did in the first Mass Effect.

This stuff was hashed and rehashed years ago on the various iterations of the official forums, but here we are.


That statement seems to suggest you think the Reapers are infallible. Even if it was simply "not stupid," there seem to be plenty of examples of their stupidity in the trilogy.

They appear to be stupid enough such that their control AI inhabits the Citadel, but is not smart enough to prevent random Protheans from sabotaging the relay system. And that AI is too stupid to correct the error himself.

The Reapers are stupid enough that their plan for retaking the Citadel involves using a Council operative with nearly unquestioned authority to attack a human colony with the aid of kill bots rather than infiltrate the station where he has free reign to begin with. Sure, this convoluted James Bond bad guy type plan makes for decent game in ME1, but it isn't proof of their near god-hood.

The Reapers haven't managed to figure out in a billion years that it would make more sense for their giant construct run by their chief AI to simply indoctrinate the leadership of the organics using said Reaper construct.


Convenient is probably a more apt description. They are in dark space, but close enough (~30,000ly) to get there in 2-3 years and use their "special" relay on the perimeter. Almost makes the original plan pointless when they can just fly in. They would still have the element of surprise. Why tip their hand with Saren and the Geth? If they are stupid, that would makes sense.

Don't think anybody would bother to do that for any game that isn't ME2.

Reaper speed is 30 ly per day, if they are 100,000 ly away it would take them ~3333 days, or ~9 years.

With respect to the inclusion of the end scene in ME2, the previous point was about self contained Mass Effect games in the Milky Way. A group of people often criticized ME2 as having "nothing to do with the Reaper plot," and even if that is true it was still very popular.

If that's the case, why would they ever use relays to initially pounce on the galaxy.  Clearly, they could have hit the Citadel before anything could be organized.  Nothing of the way they entered the galaxy made much sense.  If you've made the entire relay network, why not have backdoors for all relays.  Obviously, that would make the game over in ME1 over before it got started but there's a logic gap.  Similarly, the Reapers could have been stationed along the edges of the entire galaxy and able to attack multiple points at the same time.

I like the variety of bonus powers available; it let's you tailor your class even further and can even shore up a weakness.

My favorites are Barrier and Warp Ammo, the former gives a Vanguard a defensive option when Charge is not viable, and the latter gives a Sentinel some extra firepower that can be squaddied out if you choose.

I've already stated the issues I have with ME1 on this, so I'm not going to repeat that here.  ME2 makes no good sense of it either though.  Through the Collectors (who the Reapers control and upon whom the Reapers had been altering DNA (to turn them from Protheans to Collectors), the Reapers have access to the Omega 4 Relay.  The Omega 4 Relay is a stone's throw away from Omega, a major hub for the galaxy and it gives them direct access to the entire relay network.  Yet, they wind up focusing an initial attack on Aratoht?... way out on the outskirts of the galaxy.  Then, the destruction of that relay, regardless of whether or not Shepard does that DLC before or after destroying the Collector base, locks the Reapers out of the galaxy again for a minimum of 6 more months.  It makes no sense even without the "communications" part. 

Violation of science? Seriously its fiction.

Yeah, especially if they go against what they already established in the lore. For example how Bioware in ME2 abandoned the lore they set up regarding things like protective suits needed for dangerous conditions and instead just did the Rule of Cool/Sexy instead. So now instead of needing a full-body suit to protect you from things like extreme temperatures, toxic atmospheres, or even the vacuum of space you can now do that naked apparently.