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Post by burningcherry on Feb 11, 2019 22:46:22 GMT
Which mods do you use on this weapon if going for TBs from Disruptor Ammo? It's obvious for me that I need penetration, so Piercing Mod. Then weight-gliched Heavy Barrel and I'm left with a 4-shot weapon, most of which don't actually prime. Should I keep struggling with this combo or re-equip a little? Is Wraith better for this purpose?
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Post by larsdt on Feb 11, 2019 23:10:21 GMT
Which mods do you use on this weapon if going for TBs from Disruptor Ammo? It's obvious for me that I need penetration, so Piercing Mod. Then weight-gliched Heavy Barrel and I'm left with a 4-shot weapon, most of which don't actually prime. Should I keep struggling with this combo or re-equip a little? Is Wraith better for this purpose? Personally, I dont use disruptor ammo for TBs but for the direct impact i.e. stopping jumping Banshees and dealing with on-host phantoms. * Pageing vastator 's KroSent * for a better answer
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Post by NinjaSuperiority on Feb 12, 2019 0:44:11 GMT
I mostly use Talon with Heavy Barrel but no piercing mod, but armor piercing IV rounds. That is a big damage dealer there, no worries about priming too
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Post by BlackMage on Feb 12, 2019 3:10:54 GMT
Talon is more suited for damage dealing than priming. AP IV is the way to go.
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Post by muahmuah on Feb 12, 2019 5:34:53 GMT
Talon is more suited for damage dealing than priming. AP IV is the way to go. This.Use talon only with AP.Wraith and every other shotgun is a much,much better choice for TBs.
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Post by K_O_513 on Feb 12, 2019 5:49:23 GMT
You can use it with the Human Vanguard for priming TBs. That's about it though
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 7:34:50 GMT
Intuitively I'd say that's the only way, if you want to go with Disruptors. The only alternative semi-viable build I would entertain is AP mod + Magazine Upgrayzdd (the two D's are for a double-dose of pimpin), but my mind rebels against idea of not going with Pistol Heavy Barrel. It's not something I have ever tried, and I am way too lazy to some approximation of how much difference those extra rounds do in terms of sustained DPS vs PHB, and does that little extra survivability it adds really mean anything. Ofc, it's Talon so it's going to "work" either way. I'll probably test that at some point, and see if there's a noticeable difference.
Wraith is better for that purpose, if only for a psychological comfort that you don't need do tradeoffs with damage, AP and Disruptors.
Personally, for Talon it is Warp or AP rounds all the way, with PHB and then either MGU or PPM, depending on a kit I am using. I manage with 4 rounds just fine, if a kit has way of direct dmg besides weapons (Reave, Smash, Warp+Throw, Dark Channel, etc). If a kit relies entirely on weapon, then 4 rounds is more frustrating than unworkable.
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Post by vastator on Feb 12, 2019 20:05:05 GMT
Which mods do you use on this weapon if going for TBs from Disruptor Ammo? It's obvious for me that I need penetration, so Piercing Mod. Then weight-gliched Heavy Barrel and I'm left with a 4-shot weapon, most of which don't actually prime. Should I keep struggling with this combo or re-equip a little? Is Wraith better for this purpose? Personally, I dont use disruptor ammo for TBs but for the direct impact i.e. stopping jumping Banshees and dealing with on-host phantoms. * Pageing vastator 's KroSent * for a better answer Talon? What, a gun that's basically a shotgun? My Krogan doesn't use things like that, he uses a mighty Scorpion with a shiny power mag! Seriously, i rarely use Talon for tech bursts, i prefer other weapons, from Falcon to Javelin, i prefer AP IV on this pistol like others have said, maybe sometimes i used it with inc ammo on GE.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 13, 2019 1:02:26 GMT
Use the Pirahna instead.
Edit: spray n pray FTW!
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Post by burningcherry on Feb 13, 2019 1:09:24 GMT
You can use it with the Human Vanguard for priming TBs. That's about it though What about the Slayer?
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Post by K_O_513 on Feb 13, 2019 2:30:23 GMT
You can use it with the Human Vanguard for priming TBs. That's about it though What about the Slayer? I usually run Incendiary on him but Disrupter works as well
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Post by Tonymac on Feb 13, 2019 11:20:02 GMT
You have not lived life until you run around on a GI doing a solo with a Talon running heavy barrel, xtended mag and AP IV ammo.
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Post by DistigousForest on Feb 13, 2019 11:25:16 GMT
You have not lived life until you run around on a GI doing a solo with a Talon running heavy barrel, xtended mag and AP IV ammo. In my experience it's overrated. Maybe it's a L2P or an lolconsole thing, but I'd rather take the Raider or Carrier or several other weapons over the Talon. I find its RNG to be very frustrating at times even with the accuracy bonus of Hunter Mode.
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Post by nitrous on Feb 13, 2019 12:34:05 GMT
a GI doing a solo with a Talon the Raider or Carrier or several other weapons One word. JAVELIN.
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Post by muahmuah on Feb 13, 2019 12:41:03 GMT
You have not lived life until you run around on a GI doing a solo with a Talon running heavy barrel, xtended mag and AP IV ammo. In my experience it's overrated. Maybe it's a L2P or an lolconsole thing, but I'd rather take the Raider or Carrier or several other weapons over the Talon. I find its RNG to be very frustrating at times even with the accuracy bonus of Hunter Mode. It's definitely L2P or console problem,cuz GI/Talon is OP.Yes,it's not that powerful like GI/Crusader or GI/Venom,but this particular combo is better than Raider not to mention carrier.Also,nitrous,Javelin is a fun and stylish weapon,very efficient as well,especially with GI,but less cheesy than already mentioned weapons.
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Post by DistigousForest on Feb 13, 2019 13:07:38 GMT
I usually run a Drell Assassin or QFI for sniper build, but with that said I'm not a big fan of sniping in this game. But that could be more attributed to console auto aim. This is a normal situation of console: Me using Javelin Winfiltrator as Banshee approachesME: zooms in to shoot I'll just get a good shot on her and she'll be out of warp mode and standing still GAME: Lol nope! I'm a zoom you in on that Cannibal 10m left through 3 walls ME: Goddammit game! Target the Banshee charging me not some damn Cannibal zooms in againGAME: Lol here's a swarmer 1m in front of you at your feet ME: gets synced by Banshee Sigh, I hate this game. GAME: It's definitely L2P or console problem,cuz GI/Talon is OP.Yes,it's not that powerful like GI/Crusader or GI/Venom,but this particular combo is better than Raider not to mention carrier.Also,nitrous,Javelin is a fun and stylish weapon,very efficient as well,especially with GI,but less cheesy than already mentioned weapons. It was my understanding that Raider GI was one of the highest DPS kit in the game. Is that not correct? I know Talon GI is OP, the gun just feels off to me. It has that big reticle so there's a lot of RNG for, what is it 6 pellets? Idk man Carrier GI is pretty damn OP especially on gold, even on plat when I've used it it melts. Yes you burn through ammo (so does the Talon in my experience), but it's a damn laser at all ranges with HM and does almost 1000 headshot damage per shot with Cloak and Proxy and you'll hit those much easier than with the HurrDurr (which is very similar damage wise).
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Post by muahmuah on Feb 13, 2019 13:47:35 GMT
I usually run a Drell Assassin or QFI for sniper build, but with that said I'm not a big fan of sniping in this game. But that could be more attributed to console auto aim. This is a normal situation of console: Me using Javelin Winfiltrator as Banshee approachesME: zooms in to shoot I'll just get a good shot on her and she'll be out of warp mode and standing still GAME: Lol nope! I'm a zoom you in on that Cannibal 10m left through 3 walls ME: Goddammit game! Target the Banshee charging me not some damn Cannibal zooms in againGAME: Lol here's a swarmer 1m in front of you at your feet ME: gets synced by Banshee Sigh, I hate this game. GAME: It's definitely L2P or console problem,cuz GI/Talon is OP.Yes,it's not that powerful like GI/Crusader or GI/Venom,but this particular combo is better than Raider not to mention carrier.Also,nitrous,Javelin is a fun and stylish weapon,very efficient as well,especially with GI,but less cheesy than already mentioned weapons. It was my understanding that Raider GI was one of the highest DPS kit in the game. Is that not correct? I know Talon GI is OP, the gun just feels off to me. It has that big reticle so there's a lot of RNG for, what is it 6 pellets? Idk man Carrier GI is pretty damn OP especially on gold, even on plat when I've used it it melts. Yes you burn through ammo (so does the Talon in my experience), but it's a damn laser at all ranges with HM and does almost 1000 headshot damage per shot with Cloak and Proxy and you'll hit those much easier than with the HurrDurr (which is very similar damage wise). Stats are not everythng.On theory,yes,but i tested every damn gun on GI many times and i can say:Talon is a faster killer,not much faster,but still a faster killer.Rider eats the bosses for seconds and despite this fact Talon kills faster.Talon burns much slower the ammo.Carrier is just too hungry.You have to run to the ammo boxes constanly,which will influence your killing speed and efficiency.
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Post by Sonashii on Feb 13, 2019 14:17:07 GMT
Talon, Javelin, Raider, Disruptor ammo, Tech Bursts and what else? Just take a goddamn Reegar with Incendiary ammo IV and be done with this shiet. You can never go wrong with it
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Post by xelander on Feb 13, 2019 15:15:21 GMT
Like the people above said - Talon is best with AP and mag size. IIRC, there are only 2 kits I run with other setups: Slayer Vanguard with Disruptor and Piercing Mod + Mag Size. I sometimes exchange mag size for extra power damage, but this is a case of 4 is not enough, 7 is too much. Human Adept. I use Cryo on him and Talon with mag size and barrel mods. In this case it's more of a CC thing, I don't need piercing for that. I deal damage much more through biosplosions, I have him set up for 3 boom-booms every 8 seconds.
EDIT: Mag Size may not always be best - it depends on the rhythm of your kit and whether you want the power magnifier. On the Human Sentinel, for example, I find it better with 4 rounds, because reloading fits perfectly in the Warp-Throw cycles. So I use the normal damage barrel and the power magnifier mod. It might not be so well-timed on the Asari Adept, on the other hand, since she has a faster cycle because of the lack of Tech Armor. You just develop a feel for it after a while.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 13, 2019 17:44:55 GMT
Heldarion/Alquinn would like a word with several of you. L2P, git gud, consolol, etc GI Talon AP IV is both the irresistible force and the immovable object. If you can't make him work like Al, then it's your fault. Source: can't do it like Al. It is my fault
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Post by burningcherry on Feb 13, 2019 20:07:21 GMT
Slayer Vanguard with Disruptor and Piercing Mod + Mag Size. I sometimes exchange mag size for extra power damage, but this is a case of 4 is not enough, 7 is too much. This is where this question came from. I watched Alquinn's Slayer Gold speedrun (with the Talon) and he used DA + ammo capacity + heavy barrel. I tried DA + piercing + heavy barrel with similar results against clusters of mooks and reloading synchronized pretty well with PD, charging and meleeing (I like Fitness 6A) but if Alquinn used something, I assume it's worth consideration. On the topic, thanks for the advice, I'll check it and probably try the AT-12 as well.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Feb 14, 2019 4:47:06 GMT
You can use it with the Human Vanguard for priming TBs. That's about it though What about the Slayer? I used it quite frequently with the vanilla human soldier concussive shot spam build also.
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Post by SalMasRac on Feb 16, 2019 5:33:20 GMT
Offhand I can't think of any kits I use Talon on. Most of my shotgun kits use Raider (ex. Female Turian) or Wraith (ex. Vanilla Asari Adept).
I do like the Talon, it just doesn't seem to do anything that other weapons couldn't do better with my particular set of favourite kits.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 16, 2019 7:18:11 GMT
My Barrier Spam Melee Krogan Shaman loves Talon with Power Amp and Melee Stunner, AP ammo.
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Post by SalMasRac on Feb 17, 2019 21:09:07 GMT
oh i think my Justicar sometimes uses the Talon. That's about it tho
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