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Post by Dekibra on Jun 8, 2019 19:56:55 GMT
exactly this! I like to have a choice (between male/female at least)
Trailer looks interesting, but for me the "white dude" is a deal breaker (that is exactly the reason I never played The Witcher, really wish they made a Geraldine as well - thankfully Cyberpunk has both options) - maybe I'll get it at a reduced prize and/or if the reviews are extraordinarily good
I'd never understand a race, gender, etc being a disqualifier of a protagonist of a story. At most I get being disinterested enough to not consider the game at full price. But disinterested, not opposed ('dealbreaker'). I'm gay and the large majority of enjoyed protagonists for me have been straight. Could more of them have been gay in a more diversified industry? Yes - but that doesn't change this in itself. Maybe dealbreaker means something different for you? I am not a native speaker, so I‘ll elaborate: for me a dealbreaker means: ok, if this [insert whatever displeases you] is a fact/mechanic/whatever in the game then I won‘t buy the game at full prize. It does not necessarily mean, I am not interested in the story/protagonist, but if that is so, I‘d rather read a book or watch a movie and not play the part myself... so it boils down to personal preference: I don’t like to be forced to play male protagonists, hence I don’t play those games, hence dealbreaker aka no deal between me and the gaming company
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Jun 8, 2019 20:19:59 GMT
Fallen Order looks like a Jedi Knight & Force Unleashed hybrid. Looks very fun. would get 3 months after release or so. Avellone is a legend after all!
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Post by CHRrOME on Jun 8, 2019 20:21:57 GMT
I'd like to see more gore. It's a lightsaber for christ sake, should be cutting people in half left and right. Why SW is always so PEGI 13 in this regard I don't get it.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Jun 8, 2019 20:53:57 GMT
I'd like to see more gore. It's a lightsaber for christ sake, should be cutting people in half left and right. Why SW is always so PEGI 13 in this regard I don't get it. Lightsaber physics wasn't too hard in 2002-3 with Jedi Knight II and Jedi Academy. I don't know why it's super difficult to do it now... other than being kid-friendly.
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Post by Babar Guy on Jun 8, 2019 21:21:26 GMT
Looks pretty fun so far ...but I'm going to be the dork who complains about not liking how the lightsaber blade looks
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Post by melbella on Jun 8, 2019 21:53:07 GMT
but I'm going to be the dork who complains about not liking how the lightsaber blade looks And I'll be the dork complaining why do the bad guys always get the purple lightsabers???
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Post by SwobyJ on Jun 8, 2019 22:16:22 GMT
I'd never understand a race, gender, etc being a disqualifier of a protagonist of a story. At most I get being disinterested enough to not consider the game at full price. But disinterested, not opposed ('dealbreaker'). I'm gay and the large majority of enjoyed protagonists for me have been straight. Could more of them have been gay in a more diversified industry? Yes - but that doesn't change this in itself. Maybe dealbreaker means something different for you? I am not a native speaker, so I‘ll elaborate: for me a dealbreaker means: ok, if this [insert whatever displeases you] is a fact/mechanic/whatever in the game then I won‘t buy the game at full prize. It does not necessarily mean, I am not interested in the story/protagonist, but if that is so, I‘d rather read a book or watch a movie and not play the part myself... so it boils down to personal preference: I don’t like to be forced to play male protagonists, hence I don’t play those games, hence dealbreaker aka no deal between me and the gaming company Thanks. Dealbreaker to me is "I am done with the current (supposed) deal" AND "I don't want to make deals with you anymore, even if I might end up with it somehow". Its a somewhat drastic term (or both drastic and casual) that communicates that you don't even want to come to the table anymore. Often that's how its used in dating, for an example. If occasional very bad breath is a 'dealbreaker', then you don't just not date someone with it, you stop dating someone who has started it, and are fairly insistent that you won't be approaching any future potential partner with it. It isn't only '"Well maybe I might date one with bad breath later down the road, if the rest of the deal is sweetened or I somehow really feel like trying it out". The deal is broken, not negotiated. To me, that means you wouldn't be including 'better/lower price' in considerations. There's no deal to make. Games are fun even without a recognizable protagonist, so I surely wouldn't call any combination of choice or enforced sexuality/gender/race to be a 'dealbreaker' to my considerations of the game. But if you really mean 'might get at lower price down the road', that's not what I personally consider 'dealbreaker'. Semantics explained. I think these companies will take your money in whatever amount in whatever form at whatever time they continue selling things, so there's always a 'deal' there, to me.
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Post by Syv on Jun 8, 2019 23:41:36 GMT
It looks okay. Combat seems fun.
Don't really understand what is all the fuss about it though. Is it just because it's starwars ? Or is there anything else that makes the internet so happy about this game ? Keep receiving articles on my phone as if that was the game of the year.
Also, disappointed we couldn't customize the character.
Doesn"t bother me to play a character imposed on me, but as long as he is charismatic or badass, like Alexios, Geralt or the dude in Red Redemption 1 or 2, otherwise I can't be invested. That dude is very very very generic and bland. So much it hurts. His face looks like thousands of npc dudes I have already seen in the video game department. Not even an iconic thing. And he has no charisma at all. Maybe it was done on purpose, I don't know.
The gameplay looks a bit stiff, but I guess it's because it's alpha game. Too bad we can't cut off members of the body with a lightsaber, it would have been fun.
I'm also hoping the AI in the final game will be way more reactive and agressive and smarter than that.
Will simply watch out of curiosity, I don't really think I will be interested to buy it since there are not the ingredients for that to happen,but I might watch some playthroughs on youtube if there is a strong narrative.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Jun 9, 2019 7:44:03 GMT
Very fun gameplay indeed. Although the protagonist looks bland and his sidekick... weird.
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Post by saandrig on Jun 9, 2019 8:37:53 GMT
but I'm going to be the dork who complains about not liking how the lightsaber blade looks And I'll be the dork complaining why do the bad guys always get the purple lightsabers??? Hey, Mara Jade wasn't the bad guy in the "Mysteries of the Sith" expansion of the Jedi Knight game And I am almost certain there will be mods for the game to turn the lightsaber into whatever we want. I'd take green and purple. But then again, the game itself probably will provide the tools to change your weapon and appearance.
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Post by Serza on Jun 9, 2019 10:33:47 GMT
It looks interesting, but unfortunately a Mandalorian never forgets.
That said, more gore would definitely seem more in line with the old Star Wars style, circa even Prequels.
I'm also unimpressed that a lightsaber cut on the bigger baddies literally cleaves through them and only does like 3/4ths damage. I accept that they have armor and have been specifically trained for this, but for immersion sake, non-killing blows shouldn't cleave through enemies, they should be glancing blows, shallow cuts (they cauterize the wound, remember?) and such. Leave great cleaves through the enemy for killing blows. Though I do appreciate that Stormtroopers and Scouttroopers are one hit kills. It makes lightsabers seem powerful again, even if for some ironic reason the gameplay still makes them seem weaker than in KOTOR2 (where you actually did need a few hits with a lightsaber to kill any opponent, but by the time you got your first lightsaber, you could see how OVERWHELMINGLY POWERFUL it is by comparison with cortosis weave weapons - in KOTOR2 my melee build did 20 damage with cortosis weapons and then suddenly in the ballpark of 50 by just switching to a Lightsaber)
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 9, 2019 15:03:03 GMT
Oh, I hear we'll basically get a Normandy (wait, it's SW, should say Ebon Hawk) in this game. Interesting.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 14, 2019 0:11:58 GMT
So, I watched the gameplay video with the Kashyyk mission and really liked what I saw. (And Saw Gerrera is in the game as well, which is very cool. Maybe we'll even see other cameos from the Rogue One cast.)
But one question: What's up with the light saber? It barely has any white light in the centre and look more like a glowstick or something. I hope they improve the visuals on it before launch.
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Post by cankiie on Jun 15, 2019 4:28:57 GMT
I remember my first thought when I heard the line "It is just alpha gameplay!" Alpha gameplay, when was it releasing again? Oh... few months from now. That right there, sweet Respawn, is not alpha gameplay Why... in the world... are you lying to us? What are you hiding?
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Post by iFoRias on Jun 21, 2019 3:28:36 GMT
For those interested,The Game's Designer talked about Dismemberment it'll be used during big moments like in a cutscene or a boss fight,they said they've used the films "as references",and they're also working with Disney so i'm guessing they had a big influence on this.
Anyway,the game looks okay but i'm keeping my expectations as low as possible you never know these days.
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Post by cankiie on Jun 21, 2019 20:12:11 GMT
For those interested,The Game's Designer talked about Dismemberment it'll be used during big moments like in a cutscene or a boss fight,they said they've used the films "as references",and they're also working with Disney so i'm guessing they had a big influence on this. Anyway,the game looks okay but i'm keeping my expectations as low as possible you never know these days. Still bullshit. But despite what I said above, not having dismemberment in the game is not that much of a deal to me. I agree though, it would add more of a feeling of you swinging around a lightsaber if you could dismember opponents with ease, but eh, I don't care that deeply. But again, it would just add to the feel, which is only a plus and does not seem as if it would detract from the gameplay. I agree, it looks fairly good... for what it is, I also agree with much of the criticism of it looking a little boring aside from some of the fighting. But it seems to be a linear from A to B game, which is fine... not every game has to be an open world sandbox, although I do enjoy those most myself. Keeping low expectations is always a good thing. And as I mentioned in my first post, they could call this alpha gameplay, for something that looks as if it should be beta, this close to release window. They are either rushing the game like hell, or they are attempting to hide something under "IT IS JUST ALPHA GUYS!" I remember Bioware doing the same with Anthem "It is just an older version of the game that is displayed!" "It is just beta guys!" It is the old same song over and over again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 12:18:24 GMT
but I'm going to be the dork who complains about not liking how the lightsaber blade looks And I'll be the dork complaining why do the bad guys always get the purple lightsabers??? And i'll be the dork complaining why there isn't an option for a female protagonist. But when i look at the video i can at least say that it looks promising ... despite the dorky main character.
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Post by Serza on Jun 23, 2019 22:19:14 GMT
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Post by CHRrOME on Jun 24, 2019 20:16:30 GMT
According to this www.gameinformer.com/video-interview/2019/06/24/why-is-respawn-using-unreal-for-star-wars-jedi-fallen-order We get confirmation that EA doesn't actually mandate what engine to use. At the moment of creating the game Respawn wasn't part of EA, so that's the obvious answer as of why they didn't pick Frosbite. However, they still prefer UE4 for this game and wouldn't have used Frosbite even if they could. So that shows that EA doesn't actually forces you to use Frosbite, I think it's more on the lines of "if you use Frosbite, you get the engine for free, any external engine you pick, you pay for it". So the reason BW picked Frosbite was out of not wanting to spend the money in something more suited? even now with DA4 and all the problems they had in the past, you gotta admit that it's a far better choice no matter how much time you wasted "adapting" Frosbite in the first place. Unless they're in the red when it comes to money (which they might).
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Post by Pounce de León on Jun 25, 2019 15:32:24 GMT
I dunno - to me it looks like corridor action game with SW skins. Not interested.
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Post by operationathena on Jul 1, 2019 2:05:40 GMT
I'm actually really looking forward to this. I'm a huge Star Wars fan and we need a good single-player Star Wars campaign before this generation ends.
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Post by masterwarderz on Jul 1, 2019 2:38:22 GMT
And I'll be the dork complaining why do the bad guys always get the purple lightsabers??? And i'll be the dork complaining why there isn't an option for a female protagonist. Because despite what Kennedy said the Force isn't female
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