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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 1, 2020 0:49:11 GMT
Victory is mine! Less than 3 days back and I made a user self-terminate! ME3 HAPPY ENDING CALLERS! I CALL ON YOU TO NOMINATE ME AS YOUR GOD-EMPEROR-HIS-MIGHTY-LENGTH-LORD-MAGNIFICENT! I WILL DEFEAT THE REAPERS WITH MY GLORIOUS FISHING POLES! REMEMBER MY TEQUILA BRAND MOTTO: DON'T MIND THE SALTY TASTE, JUST GULP IT DOWN AND GO FOR THE WORM! Do not be too proud of this sociological terror you’ve constructed. The ability to make an user delete their account is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Jun 1, 2020 1:43:59 GMT
Do not be too proud of this sociological terror you’ve constructed. The ability to make an user delete their account is insignificant next to the power of the Force. The Force can suck it next to the force of my big, hairy manliness kneel forth pissants
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 1, 2020 1:58:25 GMT
The ability to make an user delete their account is insignificant next to the power of the Force. The Force can suck it next to the force of my big, hairy manliness kneel forth pissants
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Post by The Hype Himself on Jun 1, 2020 3:01:23 GMT
The Force can suck it next to the force of my big, hairy manliness kneel forth pissants You doubt my prowess?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 5:17:06 GMT
Time to dial it back. We won't continue the current tone of the thread.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jun 1, 2020 7:07:40 GMT
A post was moved.
The weird little detour is over. Back to how an unannounced game that is still years away - if it’s coming at all - will fail super hard. Or not, depending on your point of view.
Edit - 2 posts, now.
It's about future ME, guys. Nothing else.
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Post by alanc9 on Jun 1, 2020 21:29:20 GMT
Time to dial it back. We won't continue the current tone of the thread. Have you guys ever considered having one thread for everybody to just go full RPGCodex on each other?
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 1, 2020 22:39:46 GMT
Time to dial it back. We won't continue the current tone of the thread. Have you guys ever considered having one thread for everybody to just go full RPGCodex on each other? Pin it and call it the Crucible.
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Post by mousestalker on Jun 1, 2020 23:40:29 GMT
I don't see how ME4 could suck any worse than ME3. So the outlook for ME4 is pretty rosy from here.
And that is how you troll.
Read and learn.
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Post by cloud9 on Jun 2, 2020 8:20:01 GMT
I don't see how ME4 could suck any worse than ME3. So the outlook for ME4 is pretty rosy from here. And that is how you troll. Read and learn. You mean Andromeda or a sequel that we don't know about?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 2, 2020 14:19:56 GMT
I don't see how ME4 could suck any worse than ME3. So the outlook for ME4 is pretty rosy from here. While the damage is definitely done, recovery should be a goal that you hope to achieve, eventually, through some means. Disregarding the damage, through Andromeda, did not benefit the franchise. Far from it. So, with the fact in mind that we are carrying a dead franchise, while some will return yet again, regardless, we were already on unsustainable numbers last time. That it won't be as bad and should therefore have no expectations is not a selling point. The game needs to fulfill a purpose for the franchise to justify its existence. If it's made, so the franchise can die, we already did that. Twice.
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Post by ahglock on Jun 2, 2020 23:24:43 GMT
I don't see how ME4 could suck any worse than ME3. So the outlook for ME4 is pretty rosy from here. And that is how you troll. Read and learn. MEA hold my beer...
Anthem, amateur hold my beer.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 3, 2020 1:10:15 GMT
P.S. I get bashed alot since like what 4 years ago when the original BioWare forums was still operational despite me and my supporters had the same outlook especially on the save the milkyway thread. P.S. or "Post-Script" is usually an afterthought or less-related aside, as opposed to the actual reason for the thread. People should wake the F up and let Mass Effect die already instead of seeing it mutate into something worse than Andromeda. Or not care.
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Post by alanc9 on Jun 3, 2020 2:01:53 GMT
Have you guys ever considered having one thread for everybody to just go full RPGCodex on each other? Pin it and call it the Crucible. Come to think of it, TrekBBS is actually doing something like this. They have one subforum -- The Neutral Zone -- which is pretty much a free-fire zone. It's opt-in only; by default a new user doesn't even see that the board exists, since to make the board visible you have to change your user preferences, and nobody advertises it on the other boards. I don't suppose this is compatible with ProBoards, though.
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Post by cloud9 on Jun 3, 2020 7:21:38 GMT
I don't see how ME4 could suck any worse than ME3. So the outlook for ME4 is pretty rosy from here. And that is how you troll. Read and learn. MEA hold my beer...
Anthem, amateur hold my beer.
Exactly. It's like people have amnesia.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 3, 2020 10:13:41 GMT
MEA hold my beer...
Anthem, amateur hold my beer.
Exactly. It's like people have amnesia. Or different opinions than you. Money’s on the latter.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Jun 3, 2020 11:35:51 GMT
I say again....why continue posting here if you have already decided the next game will fail. Seriously I don't understand the thinking here.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 3, 2020 13:58:52 GMT
why continue posting here if you have already decided the next game will fail Because communication is key. Andromeda 2 is not a selling point, Mass Effect isn't a selling point. Ryder isn't a selling point. Garrus is a selling point, however overused people may think he is, Wrex is a selling point, Tali is a selling point, Liara is such a selling point that they even had her in Andromeda. Honouring the ME2 crew, by actually having them in the game, is a selling point.
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Post by Hrulj on Jun 4, 2020 12:14:16 GMT
Bioware has lost good writers. Recent games showcase that. They either focused on games with weak to no stories, like Anthem, or the story they made was weak, like Andromeda.
The writers they do have are too woke and involved in current politics and essentially fan-fic making of characters. Ryder is best example. Not only can he never, ever, whatsoever be a hardass, but even when played as a logical man, which is the closest thing to "hardass" you'll ever get the cutscenes still render Ryder into a weak, simpering fool unfit to be a leader of a pack of puppies nevermind warriors. The writers inserted themselves too much into him and made him one faceted. There are so many times in the game where other characters show not only blatant disrespect, but also humiliation or insults of dead family members. There are more than plenty of cases where a hard right hook or a round in the kneecaps would suffice. Where some backbone in dialogue would do well.
On top of that Bioware will almost certainly paint the game trough the current socio-political lense. Did you guys know racism is bad? Huh? Batarian bastards? No, no, that's a mean word, can't have a character with prejudice or bad history with someone.
The main bad guy will still be some "cosmic threat" that is "too large or great for you to understand" with deep voice filled with smugness.
Krogan will breed a thousand young per year, and each of those will breed a thousand a year in a few years leading to a population in billions in a few years but that is not a problem. Yeah, it's perfectly reasonable to bring Krogan and breed them without limits. What could possibly go wrong. Clearly they'll just keep each other in check by killing each other in billions and trillions. That is so much more humane than poor little eggs not being fertilized.
Oh did I say eggs. I meant live young. Who'd care for eggs, right. One or two kids a year is horrible, practically a genocide. How can you really expect Krogan to be civilized and not kill each other when you give them normal reproduction suitable for galaxy that would allow them to thrive rather than destroy every planet they settle on if they simply bothered to live normally. Genophage is bad and you should feel bad for fixing it. Bioware will solve your moral quandry.
They are interested in lecturing, rather than presenting a story with choices. They are also too cowardly to pick a cannon ending to bring back Shepard and too bad with writing to make an interesting James Bond-esque protagonist on their own. It offends too many sensibilities.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jun 4, 2020 13:16:29 GMT
I say again....why continue posting here if you have already decided the next game will fail. Seriously I don't understand the thinking here.
Because he's bitter because BioWare doesn't make games that cater to him. He also is pissed that others like myself enjoy MEA because it's a fun game with flaw. I've already blocked him a LONG time ago because he has nothing important or relevant to say other than "Mass Effect Andromeda sucks or "BioWare is dead" please OP that is so pathetic lame to begin with, go play a video game that you do love and talk about that here or elsewhere it will do you a lot of good.
I've blocked 3 others this morning, it's more fun than having to read morons complaining about how "woke SJW BioWare is" given that all of their games have been "woke SJW" long before that was even a term or some idiot making bad jokes about sex.
I would call these morons trolls but that is too good kind so I shall call them what they really are: idiots.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 4, 2020 14:06:41 GMT
I say again....why continue posting here if you have already decided the next game will fail. Seriously I don't understand the thinking here.
Because he's bitter because BioWare doesn't make games that cater to him. He also is pissed that others like myself enjoy MEA because it's a fun game with flaw. I've already blocked him a LONG time ago because he has nothing important or relevant to say other than "Mass Effect Andromeda sucks or "BioWare is dead" please OP that is so pathetic lame to begin with, go play a video game that you do love and talk about that here or elsewhere it will do you a lot of good.
I've blocked 3 others this morning, it's more fun than having to read morons complaining about how "woke SJW BioWare is" given that all of their games have been "woke SJW" long before that was even a term or some idiot making bad jokes about sex.
I would call these morons trolls but that is too good kind so I shall call them what they really are: idiots.
You sound perfectly well adjusted, with a keen eye for conversation, discussion and argumentation.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jun 4, 2020 14:23:59 GMT
Because he's bitter because BioWare doesn't make games that cater to him. He also is pissed that others like myself enjoy MEA because it's a fun game with flaw. I've already blocked him a LONG time ago because he has nothing important or relevant to say other than "Mass Effect Andromeda sucks or "BioWare is dead" please OP that is so pathetic lame to begin with, go play a video game that you do love and talk about that here or elsewhere it will do you a lot of good.
I've blocked 3 others this morning, it's more fun than having to read morons complaining about how "woke SJW BioWare is" given that all of their games have been "woke SJW" long before that was even a term or some idiot making bad jokes about sex.
I would call these morons trolls but that is too good kind so I shall call them what they really are: idiots.
You sound perfectly well adjusted, with a keen eye for conversation, discussion and argumentation. Meh, I ignore whatever that guy says. It's usually just a bunch of whining anyway (which is funny because he, and others like him, accuse others on here of the exact same thing. How's that for irony?).
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Post by alanc9 on Jun 4, 2020 22:18:39 GMT
why continue posting here if you have already decided the next game will fail Because communication is key. Andromeda 2 is not a selling point, Mass Effect isn't a selling point. Ryder isn't a selling point. Garrus is a selling point, however overused people may think he is, Wrex is a selling point, Tali is a selling point, Liara is such a selling point that they even had her in Andromeda. Honouring the ME2 crew, by actually having them in the game, is a selling point. Those are selling points right up to when someone mentions exactly how the new gane would handle the trilogy's events. After that, the whole idea looks bad. The series went to Andromeda for a reason.
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Post by Hrulj on Jun 5, 2020 4:18:21 GMT
Because communication is key. Andromeda 2 is not a selling point, Mass Effect isn't a selling point. Ryder isn't a selling point. Garrus is a selling point, however overused people may think he is, Wrex is a selling point, Tali is a selling point, Liara is such a selling point that they even had her in Andromeda. Honouring the ME2 crew, by actually having them in the game, is a selling point. Those are selling points right up to when someone mentions exactly how the new gane would handle the trilogy's events. After that, the whole idea looks bad. The series went to Andromeda for a reason. Reason being having no clue how to plan and finish a story? Or admitting failure. It was pretty clear in original non expanded ending version that they made things identical and vague so they can stay in Milky Way without having to account for drastic and great changes.
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Post by evilfluffmonster on Jun 5, 2020 9:47:13 GMT
I wouldn't assume the next Mass Effect will fail.
I think its likely they will release one I wont enjoy as much though. Most of all, to me, it depends on the writing and voice acting, and a protagonist I can relate to.
In Andromeda, my character never had the choice to say things I wanted and however hard I tried felt like a privileged teenager who joked about everything. The bad guys were awful, a much worse version of the collectors. No expression at all.
I don't feel like relying on the open world fetch quest format did anything good for the game, wheras having it as optional explorable content not essential to the plot would be a good thing. Mass effect had cinematic and unique locales for exciting missions that progressed the story, then it had optional exploration side missions you could do for fun. Andromeda switched the concept around and instead I felt stuck on an exploration mission longing for those cinematic missions instead.
Unfortunately every game that comes out seems to have to have open world elements to it now, despite statistics showing that a huge majority of gamers stop playing them half way through. Because they are still hugely popular and generate tons of revenue they dont seem to care most people that play Red Dead Redemption 2 or The Witcher 3 never complete them, most people - not people like us at BSN who probably would.
The previous Mass Effects had more replayability, so many more important decisions, different personalities to roleplay, and then of course picking different classes and attributes for different playthroughs. Andromeda made it so one character could do everything, and their personality was so one-dimensional it didnt really matter what you said.
If they fix all this and continue to do what they do best with characters and worlds and amazing gameplay, then we will have a winner. I can but hope.
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