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Post by floratheelf on Aug 5, 2016 10:20:46 GMT
Yay an Anders thread *loves* I became so attached to him in DA:A that my romanced HoF couldn't help but get a little flirtatious with him, hehe oops x.x
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Post by Sah291 on Aug 5, 2016 13:48:15 GMT
I'm glad they patched DA:I so you could get that line, early on Hawke always talked crap about poor Anders no matter what choice I picked. (ps4) Oh really I didn't know that! By the time I got to that part it was already fixed, and this was the line I got. Yeah that would have been off putting! Anyways, I do like that line well enough. I see it as Hawke telling the Inquisitor (who may or may not be sympathetic) that things aren't so black and white, and there are two sides to the story. But I don't think that means romanced/supportive Hawke also sees Anders as a monster....but that Hawke knows that's what many people say. As Lavellan who romanced Solas, I think my Inquisitor would probably look back on that convo and know what Hawke meant. |
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Post by lilyenachaos on Aug 5, 2016 16:00:03 GMT
I must confess I killed Anders on my last run, supported the Templars. I still feel guilty. When I played through DA:I with that ending and asked Hawke about him and got "I'm not sure there ever really was just an Anders", she still sounded mad. I'm going to make another mage for him the next time I play, maybe a male this time. Never played with a male Hawke yet.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 5, 2016 16:13:47 GMT
I must confess I killed Anders on my last run, supported the Templars. I still feel guilty. When I played through DA:I with that ending and asked Hawke about him and got "I'm not sure there ever really was just an Anders", she still sounded mad. I'm going to make another mage for him the next time I play, maybe a male this time. Never played with a male Hawke yet. I think male Hawke with Anders will be a good decision*. He says more about himself and his motivations more understandable, I think. _____ *(Ofc, for me always.) |
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Post by lilyenachaos on Aug 5, 2016 16:17:13 GMT
I must confess I killed Anders on my last run, supported the Templars. I still feel guilty. When I played through DA:I with that ending and asked Hawke about him and got "I'm not sure there ever really was just an Anders", she still sounded mad. I'm going to make another mage for him the next time I play, maybe a male this time. Never played with a male Hawke yet. I think male Hawke with Anders will be a good decision*. He says more about himself and his motivations more understandable, I think. _____ *(Ofc, for me always.)I'd heard that he explains his relationship with Karl in more detail. |
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Post by Catilina on Aug 5, 2016 17:06:05 GMT
I think male Hawke with Anders will be a good decision*. He says more about himself and his motivations more understandable, I think. _____ *(Ofc, for me always.)I'd heard that he explains his relationship with Karl in more detail. Yes, and because of this fact, more personal, why he was followed him in Kirkwall, for example. (I don't know, why the writer decided, than he dont tell that to a woman. Stupid thing, but still exist.) |
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Post by floratheelf on Aug 5, 2016 19:01:17 GMT
I'd heard that he explains his relationship with Karl in more detail. Yes, and because of this fact, more personal, why he was followed him in Kirkwall, for example. (I don't know, why the writer decided, than he dont tell that to a woman. Stupid thing, but still exist.) This is a good example why I love the bioware community. I've played DA2 probably five times and romanced Anders for four of those play throughs and never knew about this (his romances were all female). Thank you for the wonderful excuse reason to begin game #6 |
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Post by Zemgus on Aug 5, 2016 19:09:53 GMT
I'd heard that he explains his relationship with Karl in more detail. Yes, and because of this fact, more personal, why he was followed him in Kirkwall, for example. (I don't know, why the writer decided, than he dont tell that to a woman. Stupid thing, but still exist.) I love that you don't get all content with just one playthrough. More reactivity to your race/gender/class/specialization/romance/choices/etc the better.  I also love that companions have romance specific content that you don't get other wise (like Solas removing your vallaslin, Anders telling more about Karl, etc!) |
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Post by Catilina on Aug 5, 2016 19:29:39 GMT
Yes, and because of this fact, more personal, why he was followed him in Kirkwall, for example. (I don't know, why the writer decided, than he dont tell that to a woman. Stupid thing, but still exist.) I love that you don't get all content with just one playthrough. More reactivity to your race/gender/class/specialization/romance/choices/etc the better. I also love that companions have romance specific content that you don't get other wise (like Solas removing your vallaslin, Anders telling more about Karl, etc!) Yes, perhaps this is true, but there are many who disappointed* because of this. I know this, because on the other forum already occured this issue. I do not think that the fact that Anders behaves differently with a woman than a man, but rather because he withhold an important information. _______________________*for example I would like if Solas would be romanceable also with male elf... |
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Aug 5, 2016 19:50:05 GMT
I personally don't like the difference in a male/female romance with Anders. It feels like he's withholding more of himself from a female for reasons I really don't understand. There's also the fact that Anders behaves differently in the romance depending on Hawke's gender. It feels imbalanced.  But I still love him!  Also, I've always romanced Anders with a mage (because I love being one, and I love Carver.) I should probably try doing a different class? ...But I like magic too much.  |
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Post by Catilina on Aug 5, 2016 20:09:07 GMT
I personally don't like the difference in a male/female romance with Anders. It feels like he's withholding more of himself from a female for reasons I really don't understand. There's also the fact that Anders behaves differently in the romance depending on Hawke's gender. It feels imbalanced. But I still love him! Also, I've always romanced Anders with a mage (because I love being one, and I love Carver.) I should probably try doing a different class? ...But I like magic too much. Yes, I also like Carver, and playing with a mage, especially in DA (but maybe in Tevinter I would choose another class, for example a templar warrior... or some any other without magic – depend on the story). (Fenris romance also better with a mage Hawke, I think.) |
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Post by Zemgus on Aug 5, 2016 20:28:14 GMT
I romanced Anders with blood mage Hawke. Too bad the game has no reactivity to your specialization (and almost none to your class, either). Anders seems to oppose blood magic for some reason and I would have love to know what he thought about my Hawke's choice to practice it. It's really weird that he hates it so much... if I remember correctly he had dabbled with blood magic himself in DAA? (wasn't that mentioned in banter or something?)
My blood mage Hawke was female, by the way, and I'm not bothered by him not telling her about Karl and whatever else I might be missing. I think the differences make both romances - for female and male - more unique and that's always a positive thing in my book. If I ever decide to romance him with M!Hawke then at least I have some new content I haven't seen before to look forward to!
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Post by Sah291 on Aug 5, 2016 20:40:32 GMT
I romanced Anders with blood mage Hawke. Too bad the game has no reactivity to your specialization (and almost none to your class, either). Anders seems to oppose blood magic for some reason and I would have love to know what he thought about my Hawke's choice to practice it. It's really weird that he hates it so much... if I remember correctly he had dabbled with blood magic himself in DAA? (wasn't that mentioned in banter or something?) My blood mage Hawke was female, by the way, and I'm not bothered by him not telling her about Karl and whatever else I might be missing. I think the differences make both romances - for female and male - more unique and that's always a positive thing in my book. If I ever decide to romance him with M!Hawke then at least I have some new content I haven't seen before to look forward to! I feel the blood magic dislike may have come more from Justice. I remember in DAA Anders wasn't totally opposed to siding with the Baroness. But considering what Justice went through and experienced with her, it makes sense. Then again, Anders did grow up in the Circle too, and was still Andrastian and believed in the Maker, so he might have just thought that way. My Hawke was a blood mage too. Or kinda became one over the course of the story. I imagine Anders would have been very upset by it, and it might have factored into some of the reasons he was conflicted about sharing his plan with Hawke in the 3rd act. I think, by the end though, if Hawke and Anders made it out together alive, there is probably nothing that could stand in the way of that relationship anymore. Except maybe Corpyheus and the DAI fade demon, if Hawke dies there. Yeah it would have been nice to have had more reactivity to class choices, etc. I hope they will continue to have more in the future. |
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Post by Catilina on Aug 5, 2016 20:42:57 GMT
I romanced Anders with blood mage Hawke. Too bad the game has no reactivity to your specialization (and almost none to your class, either). Anders seems to oppose blood magic for some reason and I would have love to know what he thought about my Hawke's choice to practice it. It's really weird that he hates it so much... if I remember correctly he had dabbled with blood magic himself in DAA? (wasn't that mentioned in banter or something?) My blood mage Hawke was female, by the way, and I'm not bothered by him not telling her about Karl and whatever else I might be missing. I think the differences make both romances - for female and male - more unique and that's always a positive thing in my book. If I ever decide to romance him with M!Hawke then at least I have some new content I haven't seen before to look forward to! No, Anders never used blood magic: he really hate this (its not true, because the player have opportunity to specialize Anders as blood mage, but... also Wynne). My Georg Hawke is spirit healer/force specced, he was absolutly in harmony with Anders (and finally he will be no fucking hypocrite in the Inquisition ... as the poor self-confident Wilhelm), but Wilhelm (Fenris, rival) was a blood/fire mage (with some force). I didn't like, that he don't have some alternate dialogue with his companions, and do not have more weakness (not only a little loss of health), for example would be interesting, that if he use the high level blood magic too many times, or/and he deal with demons (he never did it), he to lose control of himself for a while... or something. |
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Post by Zemgus on Aug 5, 2016 21:57:05 GMT
I romanced Anders with blood mage Hawke. Too bad the game has no reactivity to your specialization (and almost none to your class, either). Anders seems to oppose blood magic for some reason and I would have love to know what he thought about my Hawke's choice to practice it. It's really weird that he hates it so much... if I remember correctly he had dabbled with blood magic himself in DAA? (wasn't that mentioned in banter or something?) My blood mage Hawke was female, by the way, and I'm not bothered by him not telling her about Karl and whatever else I might be missing. I think the differences make both romances - for female and male - more unique and that's always a positive thing in my book. If I ever decide to romance him with M!Hawke then at least I have some new content I haven't seen before to look forward to! I feel the blood magic dislike may have come more from Justice. I remember in DAA Anders wasn't totally opposed to siding with the Baroness. But considering what Justice went through and experienced with her, it makes sense. Then again, Anders did grow up in the Circle too, and was still Andrastian and believed in the Maker, so he might have just thought that way. My Hawke was a blood mage too. Or kinda became one over the course of the story. I imagine Anders would have been very upset by it, and it might have factored into some of the reasons he was conflicted about sharing his plan with Hawke in the 3rd act. I think, by the end though, if Hawke and Anders made it out together alive, there is probably nothing that could stand in the way of that relationship anymore. Except maybe Corpyheus and the DAI fade demon, if Hawke dies there. Yeah it would have been nice to have had more reactivity to class choices, etc. I hope they will continue to have more in the future. Oh yeah, it does seem like Justice is the most obvious explanation for Anders hatred of blood magic. According to DA wiki if you make Anders a blood mage in Awakening you can joke with him that "the templars have actual reason to arrest you now" and he just laughs, so that does make it seem like before Justice blood magic was no biggie (and I think you can be Andrastian without believing all the things Chantry says!) I really liked Anders in Awakening, in DA2 Anders/Justice is often so grim and serious... kind of sad to think Hawke will never get to know "just Anders"... it's always 1+ Though if you stick with him till the end and fight by his side against the templars, then you have made your choice long ago and accepted all of him - the good and the bad. And he has done the same - if Hawke can get over the fact that he is an abomination and love him as he is, then I think he can get over the fact that she is a maleficar, too. They are kind of perfect for each other, both have made mistakes, but they believe in fighting for freedom and are stronger together. |
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Post by Zemgus on Aug 5, 2016 22:06:11 GMT
I romanced Anders with blood mage Hawke. Too bad the game has no reactivity to your specialization (and almost none to your class, either). Anders seems to oppose blood magic for some reason and I would have love to know what he thought about my Hawke's choice to practice it. It's really weird that he hates it so much... if I remember correctly he had dabbled with blood magic himself in DAA? (wasn't that mentioned in banter or something?) My blood mage Hawke was female, by the way, and I'm not bothered by him not telling her about Karl and whatever else I might be missing. I think the differences make both romances - for female and male - more unique and that's always a positive thing in my book. If I ever decide to romance him with M!Hawke then at least I have some new content I haven't seen before to look forward to! No, Anders never used blood magic: he really hate this (its not true, because the player have opportunity to specialize Anders as blood mage, but... also Wynne). My Georg Hawke is spirit healer/force specced, he was absolutly in harmony with Anders (and finally he will be no fucking hypocrite in the Inquisition ... as the poor self-confident Wilhelm), but Wilhelm (Fenris, rival) was a blood/fire mage (with some force). I didn't like, that he don't have some alternate dialogue with his companions, and do not have more weakness (not only a little loss of health), for example would be interesting, that if he use the high level blood magic too many times, or/and he deal with demons (he never did it), he to lose control of himself for a while... or something. I would love to see blood magic return as specialization in DA4 (I mean it has to if we're going to Tevinter, right?) and have more consequences to using it than we have seen before... Also more options to how you use it: do you try to be as responsible as possible meaning only using your own blood or that of willing participants, and only if you have no other option - or do you go to the dark side, sacrifice slaves to gain temporary power, make deals with demons, worship the Old Gods and practice other dark arts? That would be so much fun!  |
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Post by Catilina on Aug 5, 2016 22:15:36 GMT
I feel the blood magic dislike may have come more from Justice. I remember in DAA Anders wasn't totally opposed to siding with the Baroness. But considering what Justice went through and experienced with her, it makes sense. Then again, Anders did grow up in the Circle too, and was still Andrastian and believed in the Maker, so he might have just thought that way. My Hawke was a blood mage too. Or kinda became one over the course of the story. I imagine Anders would have been very upset by it, and it might have factored into some of the reasons he was conflicted about sharing his plan with Hawke in the 3rd act. I think, by the end though, if Hawke and Anders made it out together alive, there is probably nothing that could stand in the way of that relationship anymore. Except maybe Corpyheus and the DAI fade demon, if Hawke dies there. Yeah it would have been nice to have had more reactivity to class choices, etc. I hope they will continue to have more in the future. Oh yeah, it does seem like Justice is the most obvious explanation for Anders hatred of blood magic. According to DA wiki if you make Anders a blood mage in Awakening you can joke with him that "the templars have actual reason to arrest you now" and he just laughs, so that does make it seem like before Justice blood magic was no biggie (and I think you can be Andrastian without believing all the things Chantry says!) I really liked Anders in Awakening, in DA2 Anders/Justice is often so grim and serious... kind of sad to think Hawke will never get to know "just Anders"... it's always 1+ Though if you stick with him till the end and fight by his side against the templars, then you have made your choice long ago and accepted all of him - the good and the bad. And he has done the same - if Hawke can get over the fact that he is an abomination and love him as he is, then I think he can get over the fact that she is a maleficar, too. They are kind of perfect for each other, both have made mistakes, but they believe in fighting for freedom and are stronger together. Yes. Exactly. ( "Nobody's perfect"  ) But he was not "happy" also in in DAA. He was only seemingly jaunty. He was sarcastic, lonely, helpless and angry. Do not forget, he said that he's anger changed Justice. This anger was inside him, before he met with Justice. I think they have chance to happiness. Justice usually in most stressful period take the power over Anders. This is, why Anders say goodbye Hawke at Templar side. He does not believe that will survive for a long time the disagreement. |
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Aug 5, 2016 23:14:26 GMT
I romanced Anders with blood mage Hawke. Too bad the game has no reactivity to your specialization (and almost none to your class, either). Anders seems to oppose blood magic for some reason and I would have love to know what he thought about my Hawke's choice to practice it. It's really weird that he hates it so much... if I remember correctly he had dabbled with blood magic himself in DAA? (wasn't that mentioned in banter or something?) My blood mage Hawke was female, by the way, and I'm not bothered by him not telling her about Karl and whatever else I might be missing. I think the differences make both romances - for female and male - more unique and that's always a positive thing in my book. If I ever decide to romance him with M!Hawke then at least I have some new content I haven't seen before to look forward to! It's not that they're different but what is different. Obviously it's just my opinion, and the way they delivered/portrayed the two relationships felt exclusionary. To me, femHawke isn't getting a relationship equal to mHawke and that's my issue. I really recommend romancing Anders with a male. It has some really great feels. I feel it might be one of BioWare's best romances.  (Not that I'm partial, or anything. ) |
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Aug 5, 2016 23:29:06 GMT
I personally don't like the difference in a male/female romance with Anders. It feels like he's withholding more of himself from a female for reasons I really don't understand. There's also the fact that Anders behaves differently in the romance depending on Hawke's gender. It feels imbalanced. But I still love him! Also, I've always romanced Anders with a mage (because I love being one, and I love Carver.) I should probably try doing a different class? ...But I like magic too much. Yes, I also like Carver, and playing with a mage, especially in DA (but maybe in Tevinter I would choose another class, for example a templar warrior... or some any other without magic – depend on the story). (Fenris romance also better with a mage Hawke, I think.) Heh. I'm mage first every time. Plus, I don't particularly enjoy being a warrior (liked it in DAO) though I can have some fun as a duel-weapon rogue. But I'm a mage first and foremost. DA2 magic is my favorite so far. I REALLY love Carver. He's second in my fave male characters of DA2 (You can guess First, and Varric is third.) Is there a Carver thread around here? Maybe we should make one... (It's actually really sad because while playing the first time I thought "Maybe I should romance Carver----wait. He's my brother!"   ) I romanced Fenris with a (male) mage, actually. Seems only natural. It certainly made the relationship feel that much more special. I did friendship, though. I wonder if I should try rivalry? I've been meaning to replay that character for a while, but it's hard for me to stray from my angsty Abomination... |
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Post by Catilina on Aug 5, 2016 23:47:55 GMT
Yes, I also like Carver, and playing with a mage, especially in DA (but maybe in Tevinter I would choose another class, for example a templar warrior... or some any other without magic – depend on the story). (Fenris romance also better with a mage Hawke, I think.) Heh. I'm mage first every time. Plus, I don't particularly enjoy being a warrior (liked it in DAO) though I can have some fun as a duel-weapon rogue. But I'm a mage first and foremost. DA2 magic is my favorite so far. I REALLY love Carver. He's second in my fave male characters of DA2 (Varric is third.) Is there a Carver thread around here? Maybe we should make one... (It's actually really sad because while playing the first time I thought "Maybe I should romance Carver----wait. He's my brother!" ) I romanced Fenris with a (male) mage, actually. Seems only natural. It certainly made the relationship feel that much more special. I did friendship, though. I wonder if I should try rivalry? I've been meaning to replay that character for a while, but it's hard for me to stray from my angsty Abomination... In the DA:O I liked my Cousland (dual wield) warrior, and Mahariel archer, but in the DA2 I prefer the mage's strong aoe firepover. Its quick and destructive Carver... yes. he is Hawke's brother... really naughty idea (but yes, he is lovely) Rivalry is good with Fenris, totally different than with Anders (you dont need to question the purpose). Not mention it: with a pro-mage the friendship only game mechanical "bug"*. Fenris always question your decisions... Then, to awoid it, you leave him home? But he enjoy to go with you! ___ *okay, sometimes he a bit more kind in the frienship, for example he not be angry, because Hawke do not killed Feynriel in his bed... |
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Post by Almila_Lavellan on Aug 6, 2016 0:00:02 GMT
I personally don't like the difference in a male/female romance with Anders. It feels like he's withholding more of himself from a female for reasons I really don't understand. There's also the fact that Anders behaves differently in the romance depending on Hawke's gender. It feels imbalanced. But I still love him! Also, I've always romanced Anders with a mage (because I love being one, and I love Carver.) I should probably try doing a different class? ...But I like magic too much. I feel so sad when I remember my Female Hawkes won't know much about their relationship. I never played as Male Hawke. I really love Anders. To be honest, I played Dragon Age 2 before Awakening so I didn't know his old self. I know some people didn't like him after he changed but I started liking him in DA 2 and played Awakening for him. I kinda wished he wasn't in DA 2 because he can be killed in the end. Maybe he could return in DA:I instead of DA 2? I couldn't even watch those videos where Anders is stabbed in the end. I can't stand the sight of it... |
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Aug 6, 2016 7:03:19 GMT
Heh. I'm mage first every time. Plus, I don't particularly enjoy being a warrior (liked it in DAO) though I can have some fun as a duel-weapon rogue. But I'm a mage first and foremost. DA2 magic is my favorite so far. I REALLY love Carver. He's second in my fave male characters of DA2 (Varric is third.) Is there a Carver thread around here? Maybe we should make one... (It's actually really sad because while playing the first time I thought "Maybe I should romance Carver----wait. He's my brother!" ) I romanced Fenris with a (male) mage, actually. Seems only natural. It certainly made the relationship feel that much more special. I did friendship, though. I wonder if I should try rivalry? I've been meaning to replay that character for a while, but it's hard for me to stray from my angsty Abomination... In the DA:O I liked my Cousland (dual wield) warrior, and Mahariel archer, but in the DA2 I prefer the mage's strong aoe firepover. Its quick and destructive Carver... yes. he is Hawke's brother... really naughty idea (but yes, he is lovely) Rivalry is good with Fenris, totally different than with Anders (you dont need to question the purpose). Not mention it: with a pro-mage the friendship only game mechanical "bug"*. Fenris always question your decisions... Then, to awoid it, you leave him home? But he enjoy to go with you! ___ *okay, sometimes he a bit more kind in the frienship, for example he not be angry, because Hawke do not killed Feynriel in his bed... Yes! The AOE are my loves. DAI is so...  With all the spell changes and the removal of the power wheel, I'm just not able to reach the level of badassery that I could in DAO/2. I played Human/Dalish warriors as weapon/shield. That was fun. Went one-handed in DA2 once (heh, that sounds dirty) haven't been a warrior in DAI yet. Tried a little once but I found it boring (will do it eventually, though...) Never played an archer -- unless switching to Sebastian counts. Haha, yeah... I forgot a few times in the beginning that he's Hawke's brother (I don't know why.) I didn't want to incest him. No. Besides, I think his crush on Merrill is cute.  It was some time ago, but on my Fenrismance... When I decided to side with the Mages I think he said the same line of "I think you are making a mistake, but I will not abandon you." In the Gallows I know the lines are different but I don't remember them well. Other than him saying that he can't bear the thought of Hawke dying. He's such a lovable grump. I don't bring him with whenever helping Feynriel -- because I did once and + Rivalry.  |
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Aug 6, 2016 8:11:47 GMT
I personally don't like the difference in a male/female romance with Anders. It feels like he's withholding more of himself from a female for reasons I really don't understand. There's also the fact that Anders behaves differently in the romance depending on Hawke's gender. It feels imbalanced. But I still love him! Also, I've always romanced Anders with a mage (because I love being one, and I love Carver.) I should probably try doing a different class? ...But I like magic too much. I feel so sad when I remember my Female Hawkes won't know much about their relationship. I never played as Male Hawke. I really love Anders. To be honest, I played Dragon Age 2 before Awakening so I didn't know his old self. I know some people didn't like him after he changed but I started liking him in DA 2 and played Awakening for him. I kinda wished he wasn't in DA 2 because he can be killed in the end. Maybe he could return in DA:I instead of DA 2? I couldn't even watch those videos where Anders is stabbed in the end. I can't stand the sight of it... Same here.  It's worth it to romance him as a male. It's very touching and I think adds another perspective beyond Karl. I cant understand why some would be put-off by DA2 Anders, especially those who knew him in Awakening. Personally, I felt bad about it. It was saddening to see what happened because of his/their good intentions. I'm ok not seeing him again, though. I'd rather meet new characters. If he wasn't in DA2 the story would be completely different and who knows what he or DAI would've been like otherwise. As I understand they very briefly considered Velanna for DA2 --  -- but it would've been too complicated so Anders was very easily picked. But, if things were differentish but he was still merged wit Jusitce, I suppose I'd like to think that he might be a mix of Cole/Flemeth/Solas or something? Since you've played Awakening, did you happen to hear the banter with Anders/Justice/Nathaniel? Because they foreshadow what happens. Anders and Justice talk about mages while Nathaniel and Justice talk about how the spirit might use other corpses or even maybe posses a living, willing person. When I met Anders in DA2 I was just "Holy crap. They actually did it!" Still lament the effects, but I was pretty amazed.  And I cant watch it either. I considered, because I knew I'd never be able to do it myself, but even just a vid is too much. |
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Post by Almila_Lavellan on Aug 6, 2016 13:20:37 GMT
I feel so sad when I remember my Female Hawkes won't know much about their relationship. I never played as Male Hawke. I really love Anders. To be honest, I played Dragon Age 2 before Awakening so I didn't know his old self. I know some people didn't like him after he changed but I started liking him in DA 2 and played Awakening for him. I kinda wished he wasn't in DA 2 because he can be killed in the end. Maybe he could return in DA:I instead of DA 2? I couldn't even watch those videos where Anders is stabbed in the end. I can't stand the sight of it... Same here. It's worth it to romance him as a male. It's very touching and I think adds another perspective beyond Karl. I cant understand why some would be put-off by DA2 Anders, especially those who knew him in Awakening. Personally, I felt bad about it. It was saddening to see what happened because of his/their good intentions. I'm ok not seeing him again, though. I'd rather meet new characters. If he wasn't in DA2 the story would be completely different and who knows what he or DAI would've been like otherwise. As I understand they very briefly considered Velanna for DA2 -- -- but it would've been too complicated so Anders was very easily picked. But, if things were differentish but he was still merged wit Jusitce, I suppose I'd like to think that he might be a mix of Cole/Flemeth/Solas or something? Since you've played Awakening, did you happen to hear the banter with Anders/Justice/Nathaniel? Because they foreshadow what happens. Anders and Justice talk about mages while Nathaniel and Justice talk about how the spirit might use other corpses or even maybe posses a living, willing person. When I met Anders in DA2 I was just "Holy crap. They actually did it!" Still lament the effects, but I was pretty amazed. And I cant watch it either. I considered, because I knew I'd never be able to do it myself, but even just a vid is too much. I read somewhere that writers thought Velanna instead of Anders but they didn't add her probably because Elves were more important than mages for her. Still, I wonder what would have happened if Velanna was in DA 2. She had an intense hatred in her maybe she would have turned into an abomination? I mean maybe she would have totally lost her mind and Justice/Vengeance would control her all the time? If I remember correctly, she shouts "Vengeance!" in Awakening while in a fight. Yes, I heard the banters and I was kinda angry because of Nathaniel. I mean, how could you Nathaniel?! (still love him though) He told Justice possessing a living is OK. Also, while I was playing Awakening, I thought Justice was already turning into a demon because he started to have desires after meeting Aura. Everyone blames Anders for Vengeance but game lore says demons have desires so IMO there was something wrong in Justice in Awakening too. Foreshadowing was so intense btw. I was amazed too because they really did what they foreshadowed. I have seen such a thing in a game for the first time. |
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Post by Catilina on Aug 6, 2016 13:42:40 GMT
Same here. It's worth it to romance him as a male. It's very touching and I think adds another perspective beyond Karl. I cant understand why some would be put-off by DA2 Anders, especially those who knew him in Awakening. Personally, I felt bad about it. It was saddening to see what happened because of his/their good intentions. I'm ok not seeing him again, though. I'd rather meet new characters. If he wasn't in DA2 the story would be completely different and who knows what he or DAI would've been like otherwise. As I understand they very briefly considered Velanna for DA2 -- -- but it would've been too complicated so Anders was very easily picked. But, if things were differentish but he was still merged wit Jusitce, I suppose I'd like to think that he might be a mix of Cole/Flemeth/Solas or something? Since you've played Awakening, did you happen to hear the banter with Anders/Justice/Nathaniel? Because they foreshadow what happens. Anders and Justice talk about mages while Nathaniel and Justice talk about how the spirit might use other corpses or even maybe posses a living, willing person. When I met Anders in DA2 I was just "Holy crap. They actually did it!" Still lament the effects, but I was pretty amazed. And I cant watch it either. I considered, because I knew I'd never be able to do it myself, but even just a vid is too much. I read somewhere that writers thought Velanna instead of Anders but they didn't add her probably because Elves were more important than mages for her. Still, I wonder what would have happened if Velanna was in DA 2. She had an intense hatred in her maybe she would have turned into an abomination? I mean maybe she would have totally lost her mind and Justice/Vengeance would control her all the time? If I remember correctly, she shouts "Vengeance!" in Awakening while in a fight. Yes, I heard the banters and I was kinda angry because of Nathaniel. I mean, how could you Nathaniel?! (still love him though) He told Justice possessing a living is OK. Also, while I was playing Awakening, I thought Justice was already turning into a demon because he started to have desires after meeting Aura. Everyone blames Anders for Vengeance but game lore says demons have desires so IMO there was something wrong in Justice in Awakening too. Foreshadowing was so intense btw. I was amazed too because they really did what they foreshadowed. I have seen such a thing in a game for the first time. I do not blame Anders, he blames himself, but true: when Justice left the Fade, and experienced Kristoff memories / emotions, he met the rage/sadness also. |
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I also love that companions have romance specific content that you don't get other wise (like Solas removing your vallaslin, Anders telling more about Karl, etc!)
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(Not that I'm partial, or anything. 
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With all the spell changes and the removal of the power wheel, I'm just not able to reach the level of badassery that I could in DAO/2. I played Human/Dalish warriors as weapon/shield. That was fun. Went one-handed in DA2 once (heh, that sounds dirty) haven't been a warrior in DAI yet. Tried a little once but I found it boring (will do it eventually, though...) Never played an archer -- unless switching to Sebastian counts. 
It's worth it to romance him as a male. It's very touching and I think adds another perspective beyond Karl. 
-- but it would've been too complicated so Anders was very easily picked. But, if things were differentish but he was still merged wit Jusitce, I suppose I'd like to think that he might be a mix of Cole/Flemeth/Solas or something? 