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Post by cloud9 on Sept 6, 2016 2:08:36 GMT
I am not sure what it is we are discussing? From a storytelling perspective a torture scene with Danarius would not have served any purpose other than for the player to view excessive violence, and that has never been a part of the Dragon Age series. I would honestly have felt extremely uncomfortable if I would have had to watch such a scene. If you felt that Hawke being with a man and/or a mage is problematic that is fine, just know that others do not share the same sentiment and that is fine as well. I know women that are victims of rape, and although still deeply traumatized they have fortunately still been able to have loving relationships. One of them actually said once that she found it insulting that TV and movies always had to make it out to be impossible to have a normal love-life afterwards. So, my point is that it probably differs a lot between victims. Wow, this discussion is really depressing... let's make horribly light if this, shall we? By NarutoLover6219 I kinda prefer the death scenes like this one for Danarius.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 6, 2016 2:12:24 GMT
You're a pustule on Danarius stinky arse. My opinion.
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Post by dragontartare on Sept 6, 2016 2:32:56 GMT
Soooo...art! A Fenris ball-jointed doll An impressive cosplay (click the source for more) One you've probably seen, but which deserves to be seen more Wut
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Post by Catilina on Sept 6, 2016 2:44:58 GMT
Very good ones! One more: source
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Post by dragontartare on Sept 6, 2016 3:03:36 GMT
Another sweet Garrett one: And this:
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 6, 2016 6:35:18 GMT
You're a pustule on Danarius stinky arse. My opinion. What's with the butthurt?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 7:08:32 GMT
I was digging through the old thread and someone linked to the Japanese voices
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 6, 2016 7:12:05 GMT
I was digging through the old thread and someone linked to the Japanese voices Speaking of Japanese is it coincidence that Fenris is inspired by Vergil from Devil May Cry 3?
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 6, 2016 8:15:57 GMT
Hate can take you to many places especially when someone caused you pain. Yes. But what the hell you want? (I has been asked before, much more polite.) We still talk about Fenris? If yes, you do not have to worry about him, he is strong, solved his problem. If you talking about someone else, then I afraid, I can't help. It's just a figure of speech no need to get your panties in a bundle.
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Post by Mickymax69 on Sept 6, 2016 8:17:53 GMT
Interesting facts concerning revenge: So much of people think that they will feel better after being avenged, the scientific literature contradicts this idea. Indeed, research in psychology showed that to be made justice oneself involved one period of mental rumination. The people who are avenged by themselves tend to feel remorse and spend thus more time to feel better than those which “pass to another thingé.
"And finally, you poison yourself skillfully that you have no chance to recover." I think you're right on that point, catilina. We often use to underestimate the wrong effects it has on us. In game revenge is fun, for some reasons, but in real life, forgiveness is healthy. (It Makes me think of some Jesus words.)
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 6, 2016 8:21:37 GMT
Interesting facts concerning revenge: So much of people think that they will feel better after being avenged, the scientific literature contradicts this idea. Indeed, research in psychology showed that to be made justice oneself involved one period of mental rumination. The people who are avenged by themselves tend to feel remorse and spend thus more time to feel better than those which “pass to another thingé. "And finally, you poison yourself skillfully that you have no chance to recover." I think you're right on that point, catilina. We often use to underestimate the wrong effects it has on us. In game revenge is fun, for some reasons, but in real life, forgiveness is healthy. (It Makes me think of some Jesus words.)For once I agreed with Javik: "Mercy is not a weapon it is a weakness."
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Post by Mickymax69 on Sept 6, 2016 8:35:32 GMT
Interesting facts concerning revenge: So much of people think that they will feel better after being avenged, the scientific literature contradicts this idea. Indeed, research in psychology showed that to be made justice oneself involved one period of mental rumination. The people who are avenged by themselves tend to feel remorse and spend thus more time to feel better than those which “pass to another thingé. "And finally, you poison yourself skillfully that you have no chance to recover." I think you're right on that point, catilina. We often use to underestimate the wrong effects it has on us. In game revenge is fun, for some reasons, but in real life, forgiveness is healthy. (It Makes me think of some Jesus words.)For once I agreed with Javik: "Mercy is not a weapon it is a weakness." Ja vik is a character creation , not jesus... But mercy is not forgiveness, I prefer to have "compassion, ina way to help, mercy is useless.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Sept 6, 2016 8:39:20 GMT
You're a pustule on Danarius stinky arse. My opinion. He is as much entitled to his opinion as anyone else. Let's all please refrain from name calling and try to keep this thread as open to different opinions as possible. If you see something you disagree with you can just ignore it and post another amazing pic or fanart of Fenris (I've really liked the ones you've linked so far!).
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 6, 2016 8:39:28 GMT
For once I agreed with Javik: "Mercy is not a weapon it is a weakness." Ja vik is a character creation , not jesus... Technically Jesus is a mythical figure as well.
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Post by Mickymax69 on Sept 6, 2016 8:41:54 GMT
Ja vik is a character creation , not jesus... Technically Jesus is a mythical figure as well. I prefer listen to my heart than my ego (do the same)
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 6, 2016 8:59:28 GMT
Technically Jesus is a mythical figure as well. I prefer listen to my heart than my ego Hey if you believe he's real more power to you. I just think that if he is real then where is the historical documents of his existence? Why he's only mentioned in the Bible and not in history books that he's an historical figure? And why the scientists didn't take samples of the blood from the Spear of Destiny to confirm his existence? And don't take it the wrong way I just question everything about stuff.
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Post by Mickymax69 on Sept 6, 2016 9:12:49 GMT
Jews have proof of his existence, it has been explained recently. He existed once. But mithical or not, is not important when you listen and think with your heart. I invite you yo take interest in spirituality. But I believe if Fenris met him, he'd have helped him to find peace in his heart. At least more quickly, and with more belief.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Sept 6, 2016 9:15:19 GMT
Mickymax69 & cloud9: Uhm, okay, usually I am a pro at derailing stuff but I draw my line at religion (way to inflammatory for most people) so I suggest if you want to keep on discussing that you should do it by PM instead. Something else to discuss: What do you think will happen to Fenris' lyrium in the future? I mean, lyrium is highly poisonous, do you think there is a risk that it will harm him if not "properly maintained"? I certainly hope not, but when you consider what happens to templars that ingest the stuff... yeah, I'm a bit worried.
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 6, 2016 9:23:27 GMT
Jews have proof of his existence, it has been explained recently. He existed once. But mithical or not, is not important when you listen and think with your heart. I invite you yo take interest in spirituality. But I believe if Fenris met him, he'd have helped him to find peace in his heart. At least more quickly, and with more belief. Ok.
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Post by Mickymax69 on Sept 6, 2016 9:26:04 GMT
Something else to discuss: What do you think will happen to Fenris' lyrium in the future? I mean, lyrium is highly poisonous, do you think there is a risk that it will harm him if not "properly maintained"? I certainly hope not, but when you consider what happens to templars that ingest the stuff... yeah, I'm a bit worried. That's what I wonder myself too, does Fenris is condemended to take Lyrium or not, good question.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Sept 6, 2016 9:32:49 GMT
Mickymax69 I have a pet theory that the way Danarius tattooed lyrium into Fenris' skin is a technique that dates back to ancient elven times (perhaps Ghilan'nain created it, she seems to have done a lot of weird stuff) and it was used to create soldiers/guards with a high resistance to magic (since everyone was a mage back then it would make them highly efficient). How Danarius would have found out about it is everyone's guess though. If this theory is true then Solas might know of a way to stabilize them, or possibly even removing them (he can remove the vallaslin of a romanced elf Inquisitor). Edit* "Everyone's guess"... the linguistical mistakes I sometimes make when writing in English... xD
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Post by Beregond5 on Sept 6, 2016 9:42:02 GMT
Mickymax69 & cloud9: Uhm, okay, usually I am a pro at derailing stuff but I draw my line at religion (way to inflammatory for most people) so I suggest if you want to keep on discussing that you should do it by PM instead. Something else to discuss: What do you think will happen to Fenris' lyrium in the future? I mean, lyrium is highly poisonous, do you think there is a risk that it will harm him if not "properly maintained"? I certainly hope not, but when you consider what happens to templars that ingest the stuff... yeah, I'm a bit worried. It's not only poison, but, considering what Bianca also said in Inquisition, lyrium is also alive. The implications went quickly to nightmare territory for me. So I kind of headcanon that Hawke could try and figure a way to remove the lyrium from Fenris' system.
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Post by Mickymax69 on Sept 6, 2016 9:46:58 GMT
Mickymax69 I have a pet theory that the way Danarius tattooed lyrium into Fenris' skin is a technique that dates back to ancient elven times (perhaps Ghilan'nain created it, she seems to have done a lot of weird stuff) and it was used to create soldiers/guards with a high resistance to magic (since everyone was a mage back then it would make them highly efficient). How Danarius would have found out about it is everyone's guess though. If this theory is true then Solas might know of a way to stabilize them, or possibly even removing them (he can remove the vallaslin of a romanced elf Inquisitor). Yeah, a more powerful elven tatoo in a way, excellent! I would like to see some of them in the next episode... it seems to be an ancient magic technique, I imagine Danarius a little bit like Dr.Frankeinstein... I like your theory.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 10:17:27 GMT
Something else to discuss: What do you think will happen to Fenris' lyrium in the future? I mean, lyrium is highly poisonous, do you think there is a risk that it will harm him if not "properly maintained"? I certainly hope not, but when you consider what happens to templars that ingest the stuff... yeah, I'm a bit worried. If you throw game play mechanics into it, it's possible he's able to do it himself (and it's fits my happy ending ) Mickymax69 I have a pet theory that the way Danarius tattooed lyrium into Fenris' skin is a technique that dates back to ancient elven times (perhaps Ghilan'nain created it, she seems to have done a lot of weird stuff) and it was used to create soldiers/guards with a high resistance to magic (since everyone was a mage back then it would make them highly efficient). How Danarius would have found out about it is everyone's guess though. If this theory is true then Solas might know of a way to stabilize them, or possibly even removing them (he can remove the vallaslin of a romanced elf Inquisitor). Edit* "Everyone's guess"... the linguistical mistakes I sometimes make when writing in English... xD I used to wonder if it had something to do with the Lyrium Well from the Golems of Amgarrak DLC. There's a whole thing about moving through levels of the Fade, and some very familar blue glowing (and it did have to do with Tevinter Magisters, Dwaven research, and golems). Pretty sure it got retconned by The Descent, though.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Sept 6, 2016 10:53:31 GMT
As an addendum to my theory, look at this concept art of Fenris: And compare it to this vallaslin found in DA: Origins (faces 3 & 4 on the bottom row): There are definitely some similarities. One can argue that Danarius simply stole the design from the Dalish, but I am not so sure... most people seem to think that the vallaslin belongs to Mythal, but I would say Dirthamen is also a possible candidate... and it would not surprise me if the God of Secrets was somehow involved in a mystical ritual... Alright, I'll put the tin-foil hat down for a bit now!
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