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Post by Hrungr on Apr 11, 2024 2:39:11 GMT
All cats are basically Durges, aren't they? The furled forehead really sells it too...
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 11, 2024 2:44:28 GMT
Hey, can someone check me on something? I could have sworn there was a conversation with Raphael after that business at the Mausoleum, but I've just wrapped act 2 and it still hasn't happened. The first Long Rest afterward I got Gale's "under the stars" convo. Did that maybe bork something? That was part of the conversation I missed on my first PT, so I'm looking for the answer too...
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Apr 11, 2024 5:36:18 GMT
Man, keeping AI-controlled Jaheira alive is quite a challenge. You're not wrong. I gave up on her in my current - stalled - run. She gave her life to liberate Moonrise.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 11, 2024 6:21:50 GMT
Hmmm I didn't have a problem keeping Jaheira alive in my first PT. Cakewalk compared to the Gondians later.
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Post by Curious Crow on Apr 11, 2024 10:06:49 GMT
Hey, can someone check me on something? I could have sworn there was a conversation with Raphael after that business at the Mausoleum, but I've just wrapped act 2 and it still hasn't happened. The first Long Rest afterward I got Gale's "under the stars" convo. Did that maybe bork something? He should pop up at rest after killing Yurgir if Astarion got to make his deal with him, but if Astarion didn't make the deal or you helped Yurgir instead I don't think he shows up. If you have Astarion that made a deal and killed Yurgir and he's not showing I'd figure a bug, he's being blocked by another rest scene so get to sleeping or times run out and he's watching Gilmore Girls until act 3. He's put on his comfy pants and he will NOT be removing them. Chopped Gale's hand off, oops! I thought he was just going to fantasize about it. My bad. But no big loss since Gale leaves the party anyway if you kill the Grove, I think. ---- Did not take Scratch home. This might be the saddest moment in the game, lol. --- But since he's fucked up in the head he also kinda enjoyed it and said next time, let me know first. Astarion is happy about it but why is he still neutral? What am I doing wrong? Laezel is Medium, and they approved of about the same amount of things. I don't get it.
Onwards, found the Necromancy Of Thay, kept the power for myself, sorry, Astarion. I know THIS would bump up his approval but fuck you, man. Seriously. Gale will try to leave in a dramatic way if you kill the goblin camp tieflings but can be persuaded to stay as he's kinda dead if he leaves the group. ---- Could go even further in evil and take Scratch to his old home. But there are limits. --- All (or at least a big chunk of) those Astarion approvals doing chaotic stuff are 1 point. 1 singular point. Think the non chaotic stuff is -1 point. So if you want him to like you, your arm is kinda twisted into going for the big approvals. Giving him the Necromancy of Thay, letting him bite you and protect him from stinky drow are the chunkiest ones I remember. Man demands grand gestures to be wooed, or abusing the grove Party mechanics I guess.
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Post by Ravenfeeder on Apr 11, 2024 11:01:15 GMT
Went through Grymforge and did all the stuff. Not really up to a full commentary sorry. Not really sure I'm up for Ch2. I may be Gate'd out. Or it may be that I'm not really feeling the joy of Sorlock and not getting Astarion as a companion. I'm sure if I did the maths his damage output is good, but it doesn't feel like it, and he just complains about my decisions all the time. Maybe I'll take it to Last Light for Karlach and to Moonrise to see if Minthara is there.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 11, 2024 20:40:26 GMT
He should pop up at rest after killing Yurgir if Astarion got to make his deal with him, but if Astarion didn't make the deal or you helped Yurgir instead I don't think he shows up. That explains it. Didn't have Astarion at the Inn.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 11, 2024 20:42:26 GMT
Protip: if you're ever going to use Inspirations to get Lae'zel to kiss you in public, right before you meet the Emperor is not the time.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 13, 2024 21:14:55 GMT
Guys, if anybody is still reading this thread, I need quick help with romance progression for SH when you play durge, murder the grove and have the party:
She'll be too upset to go on a date. So this is different from the good celebration where I could go on a date with her (but rejected her at the end).
So, since she's not available would it screw over my chances with her later if I pick somebody else to spend the night with? It's what my horny deranged drow would do. He already had a fling with Laezel earlier. I only read you can screw around until the party at least so I did.
I absolutely do not want to screw up my chances with SH. After hating my durge for a while she did a 180 after telling her Shar's cool so she thinks we're kindred spirits now. Which is hilarious but whatever.
Has anybody romanced SH as an evil character? Are there general rules for how long you can sleep around before you need to pick one?
I quit the game and postponed the party choice for now. I'll resume tomorrow once I hopefully know more. Any help is appreciated! If nobody knows for certain my drow will go to bed alone just to be on the safe side even if that's out of character.
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Post by azarhal on Apr 13, 2024 21:51:54 GMT
Guys, if anybody is still reading this thread, I need quick help with romance progression for SH when you play durge, murder the grove and have the party: She'll be too upset to go on a date. So this is different from the good celebration where I could go on a date with her (but rejected her at the end). So, since she's not available would it screw over my chances with her later if I pick somebody else to spend the night with? It's what my horny deranged drow would do. He already had a fling with Laezel earlier. I only read you can screw around until the party at least so I did. I absolutely do not want to screw up my chances with SH. After hating my durge for a while she did a 180 after telling her Shar's cool so she thinks we're kindred spirits now. Which is hilarious but whatever. Has anybody romanced SH as an evil character? Are there general rules for how long you can sleep around before you need to pick one? I quit the game and postponed the party choice for now. I'll resume tomorrow once I hopefully know more. Any help is appreciated! If nobody knows for certain my drow will go to bed alone just to be on the safe side even if that's out of character. Did you get the SH's wine drinking scene/date? It can trigger outside of the party if her affinity is high enough and you pick the right dialogue, but only in Act 1 (and maybe only pre-party too, not sure here thought) and it's a requirement for her romance. Outside of that, I don't think you need to pick anyone in act 1.
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Post by Curious Crow on Apr 13, 2024 23:51:10 GMT
Kappa Neko You can get drinks by the waterfall right until you take a dip in the pool behind the Umbral door in Act 2. But you'll have to go back to the Act 1 area to trigger it proper and Minnie/Halsin do take a bit of an offence to that. Think they should be fine, but there is a risk they might bug out or something. Did a test with my own Drow. He's from a few patches back so don't know if that influenced anything. Had a save by the pool and by that point he had smashed Lae'zel twice pre party, Minthara during the party, Astarion post party and then some more violent banging with Lae'zel in Act 2. Could not ask Shadowheart for drinks until I had dumped Lae'zel, but once the bond was broken she was down. Went to the act 1 area and the drink scene fired and he got to smooch her and figure he would be able to keep the romance going if I could stomach it. So like, figure you can hoe around, but might need to break things up before getting the option to try and woo her. Could also have drinks with a Dwarf durge that was in act 2 and have a Tiefling durge romancing her proper too, but don't remember when I started it. Ironically those two also smashed Minthara at the party, with varying sizes of death. So like, she should be a safe smash at least. (So all three killed the tieflings/ had the goblin party). No idea how the romance plays out with her if she submits to Shar, but like, there is some cruel stuff you can do on the good route so...
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 14, 2024 2:36:32 GMT
Had a save by the pool and by that point he had smashed Lae'zel twice pre party, Minthara during the party, Astarion post party and then some more violent banging with Lae'zel in Act 2. Could not ask Shadowheart for drinks until I had dumped Lae'zel, but once the bond was broken she was down. Went to the act 1 area and the drink scene fired and he got to smooch her and figure he would be able to keep the romance going if I could stomach it. So like, figure you can hoe around, but might need to break things up before getting the option to try and woo her. So you dumped Lae'zel after the commitment scene? Not judging, but that's cold, man. Also, you do seem to be siding with the goblins an awful lot. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 14, 2024 7:14:27 GMT
Thank you very much guys! No, I haven't had drinks with SH yet. She hated my durge for a good while but not anymore. So I'll be continuing the story then, go to the underdark and the creche and as long as the drinks date happens before going to act 2 I'll be fine, yes? OK!
So he'll be banging Minthara then! Perfectly in character, good good!
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Post by Curious Crow on Apr 14, 2024 9:27:10 GMT
So you dumped Lae'zel after the commitment scene? Not judging, but that's cold, man. Also, you do seem to be siding with the goblins an awful lot. Not that there's anything wrong with that... If it helps it was for testing purposes only and she got her semi happy ending in the end Though she does take being dumped like a champion, unlike some. I have an unhealthy amount of runs so siding with the Tieflings does out number the time I sided with the Goblins somewhat. And variety is the spice of life and all. Kappa Neko The drinks option should appear at Approval rank 40 (ish) so if it hasn't appeared at that point you might be being blocked by Lae'zel and have to end the fling.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Apr 14, 2024 12:16:51 GMT
Act 2 spoilers with my mp group: We entered the grand mausoleum and into the gauntlet of shar, switching Gale out for Shadowheart to make use of her knowledge and progress her story - man this area is alot easier when you go there at a higher level with two clerics, so many radiant vulnerable creatures. We wandered through a mushroom filled cave path to come into the living areas of the sharrans, my Selune cleric did a conciliatory prayer at the shar shrine - much approved of by Shadowheart - but not by Shar who cursed me. So Shadowheart cast Remove Curse From there there was a door leading right to Balthazar's undead and their fight with the Shadow Justicars. He was annoyed to find out we'd snooped around his office but my cleric pointed out he could have holy magic helping him or harming and he consented to give us a task which we played along with and got a summoning bell for his "brother". After the barbarian had a few odd conversations with the rats we headed into the trials - funnily enough the trial that was easiest for me the first time was hardest this time - the leap of faith one - apparently i just took the right path on accident the first time. >.< The last thing we did before quitting was take out the librarian and find the special Justicar armour and spear. Shadowheart was only neutral to me before this but she's fair now, I have hopes we'll get her through this alive without killing the Nightsong this time around. And late act 3 spoilers with Mirai: O.O So after making potions and ensuring all companions were fully leveled and geared, whether they were in the active party or not as I thought they might still show up in the final battle uncontrolled, I headed to the morphic pool. Mirai succeeded first try on the 20, 25, and 30 dc rolls to try to control the elder brain only to run into the dc 99 x.x Got rescued from the nether brain by The Emperor, headed down to him and Orpheus with my entourage of summons, raising dead githyanki along the way, so now he wants to absorb Orpheus and use the stones himself. Mirai was willing to let him have the stones but not kill Orpheus, so when she insisted on freeing him he left in a bid to join the nether brain. So much for free will, I guess he'd rather be alive and enslaved then dead, it presents the remote possibility of escaping again. But given the revelation that the nether brain actually let him escape as part of its plan I wouldn't count on another escspe if I was him. Instead I would have waited to see if the prince could be convinced to put aside his actions till the greater threat was neutralised, before just portaling out. We freed Orpheus and he confirmed that a mindflayer was needed to use the nether stones on the nether brain. There was no way my druid was gonna go for turning into an aberration. Though i didn't feel great about the githyanki peoples best chance of overthrowing vlaakith doing it either I'd have let him if Karlach hadn't volunteered to do it herself when the Emperor first brought up the plan. I trust her more than i do either of them anyways, but I was worried nonetheless, thankfully she still sounds like herself - and her infernal engine is disarmed! Which is good news.... But I'm still worried about what will happen to her once Orpheus buggers off back to the astral sea, assuming he doesn't just attack us when this is over. We left the prism to find the city under attack by the brain and many nautaloids, and promptly ran into Voss, the reunion between him and Orpheus was kind of touching. Then we meet up with a bunch of other friends shortly there after, Lots of big speeches and declarations. The summon allies ability is giving me dao nostalgia Snuck around a bunch of enemies disturbing some hiding civilians on the way but was just starting a fight at the big door behind the observer (assisted by some Harper archers) when it was time to save and quit - if it was just the 4 of us I'd try sneaking through the door but the undead, wood woad, dryad and elemental don't have the hide action.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 15, 2024 3:17:28 GMT
Managed to find some time to play today, so the first order of business was... (finally) ... rescuing Minthara. Turns out... it's pretty easy. And she was surprisingly chill about it being me (who KO'd her in the first place) doing the rescuing. So far, not many of the companions expressed an opinion on her, but I expect that'll change in a couple more sleeps. Minthara didn't even balk at rescuing the gnomes and tieflings, though that didn't go quite as smoothly as the 1st PT. We snuck around back and bashed down the walls ourselves, dropped a couple of darkness spells for cover, but couldn't find a gap in the patrols, even with darkness spells as cover. The Warden just parked herself in front of one the cells and never moved. So... we wound up having to kill everyone on the prison level anyway. Well, might as well get it out of the way now. It didn't aggro anyone outside the tower, so we may be able to get back in and prep a proper ambush for them later. After respecing Minthara into a decent Pallock, it was back to the Gauntlet of Shar. This PT, I dealt with Balthazar and co. right away. We tried using the bell to turn his brother against him, but alas... didn't work. Then Yurgir to progress the Astarion/Raphael plot. Then just a little more exploring before wrapping things up at the start of the Shar Trials.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 15, 2024 6:39:41 GMT
The drinks option should appear at Approval rank 40 (ish) so if it hasn't appeared at that point you might be being blocked by Lae'zel and have to end the fling. Ah hells, I'm at 23 approval (medium). I had to switch to PC UI to even find that number. I hope I can get it hight enough before act 2... slightly worried. Broke up with Lae already though, just in case.
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Post by Ravenfeeder on Apr 15, 2024 15:38:51 GMT
Then Yurgir to progress the Astarion/Raphael plot. I really will have to talk to him sometime. Both times I've met him it's gone to combat straight away.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 15, 2024 19:48:21 GMT
Then Yurgir to progress the Astarion/Raphael plot. I really will have to talk to him sometime. Both times I've met him it's gone to combat straight away. If you follow the displacer beast, she'll lead you into an ambush beneath that group, which will then cut to some dialogue options. If you approach Yurgir on the same floor as he is, you'll automatically go into combat.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 15, 2024 20:14:52 GMT
Having SO much fun with my durge! I play my boy as the kind of unhinged chaotic evil who not only enjoys inflicting suffering but doesn't mind some self mutilation so he got branded in the goblin camp. Then he went to the pain dude and mocked him all the way to hit him harder. Threw rocks at the bear, so now Halsin is dead... Told Minthara he'll get rid of the Grove. Kicked a corpse with the goblin kids. My gang liked that, what an AWFUL bunch we are! LOL. Then the kid insulted my drow and I said he'll cut her tongue out if she doesn't show some respect. But that made everyone hostile and I had to reload. Pity. Kid had it coming! Then he went to Auntie Ethel and got himself some... eye surgery, hey, it's +1 intimidation, so that's a win for him. Eye looks cool, who needs good perception, eh? Then he went after her and made a deal for +1 intelligence, naturally. Screw the girl, he doesn't care! I hope there's follow-up in act 3 in any case. Raided the grove which was child's play with all the backup. That was a real revelation for Raszkirr. The night of the party he decided to shed any pretence of decency, put on Karlach's clothes, running around half naked, hunting for some action! Apparently his new look and his charming murder hobo personality is HOT AF because suddenly everyone wanted a piece of him, lol. Not a normal soul in the party at that point. So might as well hit on everyone. ..well, everyone but SH was willing, the one he wants to really ruin. I mean, the others are already depraved monsters like him so that's kinda boring, but SH has something left to corrupt. Alas, she was drowning her conscience in booze and wasn't in the mood. FINE. It's not like he was lacking for offers... He did sit by the fire with her some, trying to placate her. Gotta love the utter look of boredom on his face: I had a peek at the Astarion sex scene for science. Then reloaded and went with Minthara. I gotta say, VERY disappointing! She got my boy all excited with visions of blood and violence but then NONE of that happened. That woman is all talk and no bite. And then she got all emotional and my boy tells her how not sexy that was. Another look of disgust: He graciously let her live, mostly just because I want to see more of her. Raszkirr doesn't really care for her anymore. He's got kinky nightly biting sessions with Astarion until something more fun comes along. Party went to the Underdark, got that merchant woman's husband burned to a crisp. It was an honest accident! My scumbag party approved of just taking the boots of the gnome, lol. Didn't offer to heal her, of course. Looking forward to siding with the slavers at Grymforge. I just need to be careful not to piss off SH too much. Tricky situation. Btw once in a relationship, can I get dumped if I piss the love interest off too much? SH's approval is at 32 now, getting there! Just need to get the idol, do a couple more stuff she likes and then maybe I can romance her. Sidenote, unreal how easy the combat is when you have Laezel in the party right away! Didn't even have to fight the gith patrol this time. Completely different experience!
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Post by Ravenfeeder on Apr 15, 2024 20:42:21 GMT
Sidenote, unreal how easy the combat is when you have Laezel in the party right away! Didn't even have to fight the gith patrol this time. Completely different experience! Lae'zel is a complete game changer both in combat and out of it. Her Gith special to give her skills means she can double as party lockpicker or a variety of other roles as well as being excellent with large and heavy pieces of metal.
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Post by Curious Crow on Apr 15, 2024 22:48:01 GMT
Btw once in a relationship, can I get dumped if I piss the love interest off too much? Yes But you need like really low approval. Needed like -40 points for Shadowheart to dump my half elf. That was a lot of crossbow bolts since the man couldn't hit a broadside of the barn if he wanted this session. But then again. Makes sense. With her being his girlfriend and all. So yeah it can happen but I think you'll have to really work for it to do.
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...lives for biotic explosions. And cheesecake!
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 16, 2024 20:52:02 GMT
Happy to report that approval has reached 40 after the wolf scene and Shadowheart has offered a date night! ...which will have to wait because I cannot long rest until I find Nere. Died to long resting on my first PT before I understood how it works so now I want to save him. Unless I can still rest before the actual quest to find Nere pops up? My companions keep mentioning that he doesn't have much time so I guess I'm already on the clock even if I don't have a quest marker. Better safe than sorry!
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Post by Curious Crow on Apr 16, 2024 21:53:47 GMT
Kappa NekoYay for dates I think they changed Nere's time since I could rest a couple of times/leave the area without him croaking if I hadn't interacted with the big pile of rubble he's behind. But after I activated it I could rest/leave the area once before he choked. He did a mind phone call before hand to tell me he was expiring. But figure it would be safest not to rest too much or leave the area before letting him out. Just in case.
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Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 16, 2024 23:35:11 GMT
I'm trying in my 3rd PT a romance with Mithara I KOed her in the goblin camp.
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