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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 4, 2024 7:22:11 GMT
Is it possible that Falon'dins champion was the Watchman of Night (Magister Sidereal #7)? I think it might be more useful to separate the priesthood pre-Veil from those post Veil. In any case the last we heard of Falon'Din's champion he was killed in a challenge fight with Elgar'nan's champion, the match having been suggested by Mythal to avoid having an all out war between the two of them. Now it is unclear if this was before or after the incident where Mythal bloodied Falon'Din in his own temple but clearly there were tensions there between the two senior gods, Elgar'nan and Mythal, and the young upstart Falon'Din. Was it purely ambition that drove him or was something else involved? I definitely think there may be more to that old Dalish story about Falon'Din taking a sick deer into the Beyond than meets the eye. Perhaps it was actually referring to Andruil and how she constantly kept returning to the Void, which Falon'Din encouraged her to do, possibly even helping guide her there. The codex about Falon'Din where it says: Falon’Din had no fear of the night and would walk where the People could not live; substitute "darkness" for "night" and bear in mind that the blight is described by Corypheus as darkness and I think you can see how this may all connect. Could Falon'Din be the one who first discovered or perhaps created red lyrium? Moving onto Lusacan and the Watchman of the Night. There were clear connections being drawn in the codex on the constellation of Tenebrium between Falon'Din and Lusacan. The statue in the Emerald Graves was called the Watcher, so again likely a representation of Falon'Din that connects with Lusacan. I'm fairly convinced the Mortalitassi are a remnant of the Cult of of Lusacan. I don't think the Magister Sidereal Watcher was an elf High priest of Falon'Din come out of Uthenera but he may have been a corpse with the spirit of a follower of Falon'Din within it if I am right about the origins of the Mortalitassi. There is also no reason to doubt that he is still out there. Also in the 2020 trailer, the dude on the right is likely Lusacan if it does depict the last two old gods. That could be the god of darkness and shadows. Also, the codex on Falon'Din said that his "wings of death surround him thick as night". Likely the Watchman of the Night has been waiting in the shadows for a sign that he should raise his army of the dead from the Necropolis. I think this may have been what the Tevinter mage was attempting in Tevinter Nights, before Fen'Harel bit his head off, because he was meddling with powers he did not understand. He was using the idol to do this, though, and I have a feeling that the Watchman may be interested in that artifact.
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Jun 4, 2024 9:56:40 GMT
Is it possible Dumat was a women?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 4, 2024 11:05:31 GMT
Is it possible Dumat was a women? I don't know. Zazikale changed from female to male over time, originally being the goddess of freedom that changed to the god of chaos, and I think that is likely true of Andoral as well since the god was associated with unity, in particular marriage, before later becoming the god of chains and slavery. I suppose a lot depends on whether the High Priest was of the same gender as the god. Razikale definitely had a High Priestess as their head of her religion, reflecting the gender of the god, so following that logic Dumat must have been male because Corypheus was male. However, that was after Zazikale had changed, so Dumat could have been female originally. It is strange that after the rise of Dumat as the Arch-demon, they abandoned celebrating Funalis as his feast day and instead it became All Soul's Day when they remembered the dead, in particular the death of Andraste after the creation of the Chantry. Now that seems a bit strange they would associate his former feast day with the dead, particularly as it occurs in summer which is usually associated with life, although I suppose the dead are silent but, as I say above, I would have thought the dead were more associated with Falon'Din. However, I did wonder if Dirthamen could have been associated with silence, because of him being the elven god of secret knowledge and somehow is said to be the twin of Falon'Din (at least according to the Dalish) but in the codex in the ToM it is hinted as more a reflection of one another. What if Dirthamen was Falon'Din's twin sister, so they are likely two aspects, the masculine and the feminine, of the same god? Also, if as seems to be hinted in the 2022 trailer, the Old Gods are a match for the original Evanuris, then presumably whether they are male or female depends on which god they are linked with. Just because Dumat rose first doesn't necessarily mean he was the leader of the Old Gods, just that he was behind the invasion of the Black City. The original Evanuris had 4 males: Elgar'nan, Dirthamen, Falon'Din and June; and 3 females: Mythal, Andruil and Sylaise. Of course, it is possible that the seventh Old God was actually Ghilan'nain because she was among the Evanuris that Solas imprisoned, whilst Mythal was already dead. So that would mean there were still 4 male and 3 female. Let's try some of the options, with the most likely being in bold: Dumat: Dirthamen or Falon'Din because of the later association of his feast day with death and his urging released the Blight Zazikel: Andruil as she was associated by the Dalish as being a free spirit and later became mad. Toth: Sylaise as she is very much associated with fire although they later changed her gender or June because of being a Forgemaster. Andoral: Elgar'nan or Ghilan'nain since I've shown how they could originally have been female. Urthemiel: June or Sylaise as Urthemiel is associated with the end of winter, warmth, etc and beauty but also the Architect(Creator) of Beauty Razikale: Ghilan'nain or Dirthamen if Dirthamen was really female Lusacan: Falon'Din or Elgar'nan as seems to be shown as leader of the gods on the tamborine wheel and he did throw down the sun, causing darkness and possibly the Blight.. Lusacan is the most problematic. The made such a clear link between him and Falon'Din that it would have to have been a total red herring to throw us off. That is a possibility though. If the voice at the end of the 2023 trailer was one of the two surviving Old Gods then his voice seemed more likely that of Elgar'nan than Falon'Din. Also, as the opposite of light is darkness, then it follows that he could have become his opposite during his imprisonment, particularly as throwing down the Sun (Chief Titan perhaps?) caused darkness across the land, which could be referencing the Blight rather than the actual sun being imprisoned).
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Jun 4, 2024 19:02:29 GMT
Is there any reason to believe the Evanuris really are one big family?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 5, 2024 7:24:35 GMT
Is there any reason to believe the Evanuris really are one big family? I have to admit I seriously doubt this. More likely is that they looked up to Elgar'nan and Mythal as leaders of the pantheon and perhaps they were referred to as Father and Mother of the elven people, because they were the first, just as the Evanuris (Leaders) came to be known as the Creators because essentially they did create/develop elven society from nothing. If the first elves were just spirits which crossed over into the Waking World and became material beings, then the spirits of the Fade don't appear to have any societal structure. Individual powerful spirits may have taken control of their particular area in the Fade and essentially rule over it but other spirits don't seem to follow their orders or have any real relation to them other than perhaps having a similar attribute, so a greater Pride demon may attract lesser Pride demons to their realm. I find it interesting that according to the Chant of Light, the Maker was originally displeased with the spirits of the Fade because they didn't do anything constructive, just floated around, content with enjoying what they had and because the Fade is ever shifting nothing they did do was permanent. So, the Maker created the Waking World and beings there that were unchanging in themselves and which would be driven to create within that world. Then the spirits were envious and wanted to get in on the action. So according to this Creation story, the spirits came first in the Fade but the humans came first in the Waking World and it was their presence that encouraged the spirits to cross over. Of course, in this story it is implied there was always a Veil after the Waking World was created, so could just be referring to the situation pre and post Veil, in which case the Maker would have to be Solas. In the Dalish Creation story, Elgar'nan was the first to cross over from the Fade to the Waking World and as a result got into a conflict with the Titan (Father Sun) who objected to his presence creating things on the surface (Mother Earth), some of which may have been created by lesser spirits that had followed him over. Mythal arose from the sea of the earth's tears, suggesting she was a water spirit originally. I do wonder if the Creators were originally nature spirits, more akin to the Lady of the Forest, who you will remember was a shape shifter amongst other things and was said not to have come from the Fade but from the earth itself. (After all if there were no other intelligent beings before them on the earth, where were the emotions coming from that we associate with spirits?) She was also said to embody both the beauty and savagery of nature, which could be true of the Creators. (Solas did say that Fear was the oldest emotion and even animals know fear and can display the opposite: joy in being alive but not really many others). Elgar'nan actually seems associated with lightning and electricity can both give heat/light and destroy; Mythal is water which is both necessary for life but can also drown; Andruil is a powerful nature spirit probably similar to the Lady; Sylaise is Fire which again can be both creative and destructive; even Falon'Din being death is not always a negative thing unless, as Solas suggested, he started to deliberate start wars in order to bring this about. The only three which aren't specifically tied to the natural world are Dirthamen who is concerned with knowledge but again this can be both beneficial and harmful; June who is said to have created himself and does seem to be simply a creative force, so may actually have pre-dated all the others; and Ghilan'nain who seems to have also been driven by a creative impulse that later became warped and corrupt.
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Post by Dukemon on Jun 6, 2024 20:19:56 GMT
My guess:
If Bioware brings back Inquisitor like they brought back the Champion from Kirkwall, he could be a worldstate B Character as Solas' champion. If Inquisitor did not used the well of sorrow for hisself, he will be replaced in his role with Morrigan.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 7, 2024 15:30:22 GMT
Is there any reason to believe the Evanuris really are one big family? There is lore that suggest otherwise except for Sylaise.
From June created himself to Falon'Din/Dirthamen hinted at being the same entity. And digging into Andruil is its own can of worms and questions.
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Jun 9, 2024 1:01:48 GMT
Is it possible there is a sizable Elven Population within Donark? If so, does that mean they've always resisted being enslaved by the 'Vints? I'd feel like that's a way to explore a new elven character - could it be possible the Donarks even have their own unique religion to compared the rest of Thedas?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 9, 2024 7:29:21 GMT
Is it possible there is a sizable Elven Population within Donark? I think it would be pretty much a certainty. After all, there was an enclave of strange elves in the Tirashan that seemed unlike any of the elves we have already encountered. That is the beauty of exploring an area such as the Donarks because so little is apparently known about it by the people in world. From what we have been told I think the Vints probably decided against trying to conquer it. The war against the elves of Arlathan nearly broke the Imperium in its early days and they felt it necessary to pursue that because it was on their doorstep and many of their citizens had been killed, including their own Ambassador sent to make friendly overtures. Even there, though, initially the Archon thought it expedient just to give it a wide berth but then one of his successors decided he wanted to be a glory hound and subdue them. Naturally once he had started the war he couldn't afford to lose it because of the impact that would have had on his own standing in the Imperium. So, if you look at the size of the Donarks compared with Arlathan Forest and its distance from the main centres of the Empire and you can see why they just weren't interested in attempting any form of conquest, particularly if people sent to explore and study its possibilities never returned. Obviously some people must have gone a short way in at some time to know as much as they do about the weird creatures there but it looks to be vast, so like the majority of sub-Saharan Africa was to people in the middle ages, with just as many risks associated with going there, including strange diseases not known in the rest of Thedas. That's why I feel it could be such a rich source of content for a future game with possibly different factions/nations sponsoring an exploration, thus allowing for a variety of races and cultures getting involved.
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Post by Fredward on Jun 10, 2024 9:05:19 GMT
Since we're apparently dealing with 'gods' in the plural, what are the odds Solas succeeds in lowering the Veil comparatively soon in the game? I'd be inclined to think so but then the title doesn't make much sense "We're the Veilguard!" : "What Veil?" yah know? But assuming the gods are the elven gods, how'd they get out?
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Post by colfoley on Jun 10, 2024 10:07:08 GMT
Since we're apparently dealing with 'gods' in the plural, what are the odds Solas succeeds in lowering the Veil comparatively soon in the game? I'd be inclined to think so but then the title doesn't make much sense "We're the Veilguard!" : "What Veil?" yah know? But assuming the gods are the elven gods, how'd they get out? a partial breach is more then likely.
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Post by Fredward on Jun 10, 2024 10:26:23 GMT
It's been a while since I really thought about DA lore but something like this is maybe possible:
1. The Old Gods/Blight dragons act as some kind of seal to the elven old gods (probably locked in the golden city/ancient elf capital) 2. Solas wants to bring the Veil down (to remake the world/reverse his genocide) 2.1 Bringing the Veil down necessitates breaking the seals 2.2 Breaking the seals entails unleashing the blight dragons (and having them killed) 3. Unleashing the elven gods was always a consequence/step 1 of recreating the world 3.1 Solas fully expects the Evanuris to functionally destroy the world once unleashed, which takes away some of his guilt at needing a genocide 2.0 to fix genocide 1.0. Blights ensure that the Evanuris would always have gotten out eventually he's just speeding along an inevitable conclusion and ensuring something comes after. 4. The Veilguard shows up and actually manages to stop/kill/trap/redeem the Evanuris. 5. Solas = surprised Pikachu face 6. In the denouement, and because he's him, Solas still wants to genocide a little bit even though his primary pressure is absent (ie this world is no longer doomed) and we can (1) convince him to not go through with it (2) kill him because he's him or (3) everyone gets magic but no foundational remaking. DA's very own red/blue/green choice.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 10, 2024 10:33:39 GMT
It's been a while since I really thought about DA lore but something like this is maybe possible: 1. The Old Gods/Blight dragons act as some kind of seal to the elven old gods (probably locked in the golden city/ancient elf capital) 2. Solas wants to bring the Veil down (to remake the world/reverse his genocide) 2.1 Bringing the Veil down necessitates breaking the seals 2.2 Breaking the seals entails unleashing the blight dragons (and having them killed) 3. Unleashing the elven gods was always a consequence/step 1 of recreating the world 3.1 Solas fully expects the Evanuris to functionally destroy the world once unleashed, which takes away some of his guilt at needing a genocide 2.0 to fix genocide 1.0. Blights ensure that the Evanuris would always have gotten out eventually he's just speeding along an inevitable conclusion and ensuring something comes after. 4. The Veilguard shows up and actually manages to stop/kill/trap/redeem the Evanuris. 5. Solas = surprised Pikachu face 6. In the denouement, and because he's him, Solas still wants to genocide a little bit even though his primary pressure is absent (ie this world is no longer doomed) and we can (1) convince him to not go through with it (2) kill him because he's him or (3) everyone gets magic but no foundational remaking. DA's very own red/blue/green choice. Sound theory all things considered. But he still might be playing a bit of a long game with this. Like we don't know if the Evanuris were always going to get out as a condition of him doing his thing or just naturally as the rest of the seals broke. But, still think his whole goal in telling the Inquisition his plan in the first place was so that they would start working to find things that would stop him, IE be capable of stopping the rest of the Evanuris.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 10, 2024 12:18:04 GMT
But, still think his whole goal in telling the Inquisition his plan in the first place was so that they would start working to find things that would stop him, IE be capable of stopping the rest of the Evanuris. You could be right about that. He had plans for dealing with the Evanuris. Probably we were part of it. It would just be like Fen'Harel to be using us like that. Also, we know that weird magic was occurring in the area of Arlathan Forest in the Missing, which would suggest some sort of break down of magical barriers/seals. I recall that when we first went to the Crossroads in Inquisition with Morrigan we could sense that it was breaking down. This was also true when it came to the Titan in the Descent, the Breach caused it to awaken and it was only pacified by making contact with Valta, not by closing the Breach because we could go there after we had done that. Also, I've been re-reading the companion relevant stories in Tevinter Nights and the one with Lucanis said that red lyrium weakens the Veil, so with the Venatori spreading it throughout Thedas and some of them using it like candy, I think that could account for the Veil thinning in places and allowing strange magic to occur. Was watching Jackdaw's breakdown and he seemed to think the final shot in the trailer with the big dragon could actually be in the Black City and pointed out that an eclipse was in the sky behind it (like the prophesy about Fen'Harel). If that is the case, it really is going to be a crazy ride but I'm up for it.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 10, 2024 13:21:22 GMT
Since we're apparently dealing with 'gods' in the plural, what are the odds Solas succeeds in lowering the Veil comparatively soon in the game? I'd be inclined to think so but then the title doesn't make much sense "We're the Veilguard!" : "What Veil?" yah know? But assuming the gods are the elven gods, how'd they get out? The Veil is already going wonky in the Arlathan forest. The Veil Jumper formed among locals to deal with the crazy shit happening there now. In The Missing, they blame it on Solas. Looks like his plan might be to weaken the Veil bits by bits in certain areas, not a big instant shutdown like everyone was thinking. And it seems the Venatori are trying to do the same. I'm actually wondering if they just didn't swap "god" after Cory's defeat.
Was watching Jackdaw's breakdown and he seemed to think the final shot in the trailer with the big dragon could actually be in the Black City and pointed out that an eclipse was in the sky behind it (like the prophesy about Fen'Harel). If that is the case, it really is going to be a crazy ride but I'm up for it. It's basically an in-game shot of the the Golden/Black City on the cover of the vinyl soundtrack boxset. So if it's not it, it's quite the facsimile.
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Post by sageoflife on Jun 10, 2024 13:24:05 GMT
So my theory about Velanna being a companion ended up being wrong, but I still think she might show up as an NPC.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 11, 2024 2:59:20 GMT
So its crazy theory posting time. For some set up here I present to you a few pieces of evidence your honor: From the IGN article: McKay says the decision to pare the number of companions from nine to seven is mostly down to it being the “right number for the story we’re telling.” (Maybe not quite as hard as I remembered but still interesting for the theory.) Ghil'Dirthalen video: SPecifically her theory that the Evanuris, the majority of them, are dead, other then the last two. And artwork shared by BioWare on the game: Which like other trailers and images we have seen its worth pointing out the positioning of these guys can often lead to theory crafting. Like the Inquisition 'last supper' picture. And I focus specifically on Emric, his position, and where he is sitting. So...this is my first probably big theory on the story direction and a lot of other things. But 7 companions + Rook. We've had 7 Old Gods/ Evnauris +Rook/ Solas. What if each one of the companions + Rook represents either one of the Evanuris, or some sort of opposite to them? Given the importance of the number now within the franchise it would not be the least bit surprising that the characters could directly relate and supposed to be, in terms of themes and character archetypes, related to one of the Evanuris and thus be their thematic 'reincarnations'. They could represent some part of the key to being an anti Solas and anti Evanuris factions based purely based on who and what they are. Plus a lot of them seem to be magical somehow. Alternatively each one of them could end up possessing some sort of artifact in order to achieve the mission objectives, but more on that later. This also suggests something of Rook. If our companions are supposed to be the Evanruis then Rook's role would obviously be opposite to Solas/ Fen'Harel. The leader of their respective groups, the big bad/ big good. This is probably my favorite part of this theory because Solas merged or did something to Mythal at the end of Inquisition. So we are not only fighting Solas, but most likely some aspect of Mythal as well...which means to pull this off Rook will also have to represent both Mythal and Solas which suggested the opprotunity for a multi faceted RP protagonist. And from a metatextual stanpoint, as I pointed out way back, its a good idea to have your protagonist and antagonist have a very special relationship. Your protagonist is the only one who can stop the antagonist and by their character is set up to thematically oppose them...and then vice versa. Now what this means for the antagonistic factions in the game? Like I am really hoping that each one of the good guys in the game have their own unique antagonist which is important to not only their own plotline but the plotline of the game itself. Like Solas will either assemble an ANti Veilguard or there will be 7 antagonistic minor bads in the game for our characters to bounce off of that also say ssomething on the larger plot. See BG III, MEA, and DA 2 for some of what I am talking about...BG III from my understaning for main plot considerations. As far as who is who obviously way too early to tell but again really focusing on Emeric since he looked obviously more like Falon'Din with me given his association as a death mage...but then what if based on where he is sitting, the center of the table, his royal upbringing, and the chair he is in, he actually ends up being the Elgar'nan of the group? From there a lot of them do become a lot more vague and it depends on the association we have for them. Lucanis could fit in for either Dirthamen or Falon'Din based on his insinuation. Bellara is giving off craft vibes so could be June. And Taash 'being a dragon hunter' could be the stand in for Andruil. From here...I don't know. If anyone wants to take me up on the challenge from here and give their guesses I would be thrilled to release them. Also trying to figure out if the positioning of the Veilguard in the above image could also fit in with the 'tamborine' and then offer their own hints about who could potentially be who. From there though one last twist to the theory and this is where I recommend you don't neccessarily read but then gervaise21 did bring it up...Jackdaw things the end game battle could be in the Black City based on the trailer. And I think he might be onto something. Like its frickin mind boggling if true for a whole host of reasons but we have seven 'gates' to the Black City which has been theorized around here (mostly by me and Gervaise I THINK) that each one of the gates represents a personal gate way to the Black City by the individual Evanuris. So I think this could go one of two ways essentially. Either each one of our companions will end up having some key to breaching the Black City and that is how we get there at the end via the gates. Or alternatively just the opposite that each one of the companions has a key to restoring the Veil and sealing off the Black City and the Blight one more time. This could even mean we'd have to sacrifice them all in order to achive our objectives, or alternatively maybe they will each get an artefact or something which will be used. Since I kind of suspect at this point Solas's 'ritual' is going to be weakening the Veil gradually over the course of the years, or its getting so naturally weak that is how the two Old Gods that we're going to be fighting in the game get out. In this regard while the Veil won't be 'down' in the game it will be so thin that we will be seeing more and more reality bending problems...and the solution will be to get the Veilguard to the Black City to restore the seals. Then extending this out further and again maybe another clue we also have to consider we've got 7 factions to. Maybe Harding is Dirthamen because she represents the Shadow Inquisition?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 11, 2024 6:47:08 GMT
McKay says the decision to pare the number of companions from nine to seven is mostly down to it being the “right number for the story we’re telling.” If it allowed Emmerich to have Manfred and Davrin to have his cute griffon, then I'm glad they paired it down to 7. I saw that the griffon is called Assan, which means arrow in elvish, so clearly named by Davrin and likely bonded with him (as shown in Last Flight). Also I wonder if the name was chosen as a homage to Felassan and his story about the Slow Arrow of Fen'Harel.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 11, 2024 6:50:32 GMT
And I focus specifically on Emric, his position, and where he is sitting. It does look as though the others defer to him somewhat, likely because they respect him because of his age. The problem is this better shot of him makes him resemble my Dad, who was a lovely man but for obvious reasons will make it a bit hard to romance him. So, I'll definitely have to view him as my father figure in game. Anyone else notice he has odd coloured hands? The right one is dark and the left is pale.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 11, 2024 6:52:54 GMT
And I focus specifically on Emric, his position, and where he is sitting. It does look as though the others defer to him somewhat, likely because they respect him because of his age. The problem is this better shot of him makes him resemble my Dad, who was a lovely man but for obvious reasons will make it a bit hard to romance him. So, I'll definitely have to view him as my father figure in game. Going to be interesting to do the whole nine yards of which companions will assume each one of the familiar roles to.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 11, 2024 7:04:12 GMT
But 7 companions + Rook. We've had 7 Old Gods/ Evnauris +Rook/ Solas. What if each one of the companions + Rook represents either one of the Evanuris, or some sort of opposite to them? Now that's an interesting theory. I hadn't thought of that. Okay, let's give this a whirl: Rook = Solas (Yep, I'll go with that) Emmerich = Elgar'nan (Given his central position in the "throne" I'll go with that too) Taash = Sylaise (Becuase she has fire in her blood) Lucanis = Falon'Din ("Death is my calling") Harding = Andruil (Because she is a tracker/hunter and archer) Neve = Dirthamen (She searches out secrets as a detective but could be Belara as she searches for ancient secrets) Belara = June (Yes that seems to be a good fit but could swap her for Neve as she comes up with creative solutions to problems) Davrin = Ghilan'nain (Not happy about this one but he is renowned as a monster hunter - which could also make him Andruil - but also friend with likely one of her creations in Assan. She didn't destroy her monsters of the air but gifted them to Andruil. See my post below: The Joining makes him into an unnatural creature and a victim of the process, just as her monsters were.)
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 11, 2024 7:13:05 GMT
How about doing it again with the Old Gods to see if it comes up with the same: Emmerich = Dumat (not convinced that Dumat is the chief Old God though) Davin = Zazikel (Origially the goddess of freedom, then the god of chaos - not a great fit for the second part) Taash = Toth (God of fire so easy one there) Neve = Andoral (originally god of unity but then became god of slaves) Harding = Urthemiel (God of beauty) Bellara = Razikale (Goddess of mysteries) Lucanis = Lusacan (God of Shadow - the name is almost the same too)
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Post by colfoley on Jun 11, 2024 7:22:21 GMT
But 7 companions + Rook. We've had 7 Old Gods/ Evnauris +Rook/ Solas. What if each one of the companions + Rook represents either one of the Evanuris, or some sort of opposite to them? Now that's an interesting theory. I hadn't thought of that. Okay, let's give this a whirl: Rook = Solas (Yep, I'll go with that) Emmerich = Elgar'nan (Given his central position in the "throne" I'll go with that too) Taash = Sylaise (Becuase she has fire in her blood) Lucanis = Falon'Din ("Death is my calling") Harding = Andruil (Because she is a tracker/hunter and archer) Neve = Dirthamen (She searches out secrets as a detective but could be Belara as she searches for ancient secrets) Belara = June (Yes that seems to be a good fit but could swap her for Neve as she comes up with creative solutions to problems) Davrin = Ghilan'nain (Not happy about this one but he is renowned as a monster hunter - which could also make him Andruil - but also friend with likely one of her creations in Assan. She didn't destroy her monsters of the air but gifted them to Andruil. yeah Davin is an odd chestnut to crack
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 11, 2024 7:48:45 GMT
yeah Davin is an odd chestnut to crack Still if you think about it, she probably has some connection with the Blight and in any case the Wardens do become sort of unwilling monsters via the Joining because as Solas said, it isn't natural and anything connected with the Blight is poison and you are crazy if you think you can use it safely. In fact overtime you are condemned to turn into a ghoul unless you die fighting first. So actually being representative of Ghilan'nain is pretty appropriate. It is not that Davrin is a monster or wants to create monsters but he was made into one himself. Also, the Joining was originally devised by an elf I seem to recall. Could that have been one of her followers?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 11, 2024 11:25:25 GMT
yeah Davin is an odd chestnut to crack I've been looking at his vallaslin again. Whilst there isn't an exact match from DAI, I do think it could be that of Ghilan'nain more than June. Also, if he took his vallaslin based off Dalish legends, then Ghilan'nain is about travel and navigation as well as the halla, so it would be appropriate to him if he was more adventurous and liked exploring before he became a Warden, whereas June would be someone more inclined to stay at camp and make things. Just a thought.
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