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Post by colfoley on Jul 2, 2024 10:28:05 GMT
gervaise21I have been trying to dance around these particular spoilers for awhile. Know its probably too late and trying to sit on top of a volcano at this point but still... And the theory is not that crazy, at least not that particular part of it. Solas being the end boss in that way still does make a fair bit of sense that he could be playing all of us. It has been what he has been known for in the past. I don't remain that convinced about your theory though that the souls automatically transfer to the rest of the Evanuris. Granted there is some power transfer going on here and some collecting of them could be going on but it still does not quite ring true to me either, afterall Flemeth did go to tremendous efforts to rescue Urthemiel 'from darkness'. I do think the death of these souls is more or less permenent unless they go through some other process. On this subject but a bit of a tangent going to put my seal on something else, not really that big or much of a crazy theory, but I have been musing on the role the Qunari will play in all this. Typically it would be really nice if they end up being a 'control' group. Whereas the three gods will want to tear down the Veil, there will be other forces which may be wanting to throw down the Veil, the Qunari would have to be amongst the forces wantitng to keep it up. This will represent a bit of a control part of the thesis since their objectives will obviously allign with the Veilguard's but their methods and the reasonw hy would still likely put them at odds. Though alternatively it would be interesting if in this regard we might get to choose between them and the Crows in Antiva along these lines.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 2, 2024 11:21:48 GMT
On this subject but a bit of a tangent going to put my seal on something else, not really that big or much of a crazy theory, but I have been musing on the role the Qunari will play in all this. Typically it would be really nice if they end up being a 'control' group. Whereas the three gods will want to tear down the Veil, there will be other forces which may be wanting to throw down the Veil, the Qunari would have to be amongst the forces wantitng to keep it up. This will represent a bit of a control part of the thesis since their objectives will obviously allign with the Veilguard's but their methods and the reasonw hy would still likely put them at odds. Though alternatively it would be interesting if in this regard we might get to choose between them and the Crows in Antiva along these lines. I have to admit I was surprised that the Qunari weren't represented among our companions but understand why considering we have to choose to belong to one of the factions of our companions and there would have been complications in making us a Qunari, even though they do take people from every race, particularly if we wanted to play a mage (I'm ignoring the Sarabaas featured in DAMP). Also, Taash could be an undercover Ben'Hassrath, this time not admitting to be a spy at the outset. I'm fairly certain they are going to play a part at some point and there was a reason the writers chose to suggest the Antaam were acting independently of Par Vollen. I'm still not convinced of this but assuming that is true, that does allow us to actually form an alliance with the Ben'Hassrath without selling out the Crows and Antiva. Charter stated the Qun have been on Solas' case longer than anyone else and thus they likely do know more about him than anyone else outside of his select allies. We also know they were studying how to strengthen the Veil and he has sabotaged their research facility twice now, so they must be on to something for him to take such an interest in them. Okay, so he hates their philosophy but I think there is more to it than that. The Executor also suggested the Qun might be wary of them, which I found a better endorsement to be careful than that of Solas. So, in addition to Solas and the Crows there are the Veil Jumpers (who I still think are suspect) that the Qun might be opposed to and know more about that group than the Veil Jumper members will be prepared to reveal. Another thing I found strange in the plot reveal, much was made of the fact that his hideout showed his solitary existence. However, we know that is not true. There are plenty of elves working for him and at least some are of ancient lineage and his original followers. So, there are plenty of other groups out there that could be working for and against us. I think the Qun may yet to prove our allies in saving the world.
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Post by q5tyhj on Jul 2, 2024 17:12:54 GMT
trying to sit on top of a volcano at this point . I have not heard this particular turn of phrase before, it brings quite the unpleasant picture to mind (butt burns- bad business)
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Post by colfoley on Jul 3, 2024 1:45:05 GMT
I did almost forget...
Was watching the LP scene again of one of my favorite YTbers play through the scene where Morrigan meets Flemeth in Inquisition with the *reveal* of who Flemeth has been harboring along all this time, always love his reaction. Though got a line that I don't often hear since my Inquisitor is human. But Flemeth, when asked why she didn't interfere and help the Elves more, she answered with, 'things happened which could not be changed.'
Now Solas has absorbed Mythal's essence here at this time so he should know exactly what she knows if he wasn't already aware of it. 'THings that can't be changed'. Which is what he says he is up to...and yet given that he has to know he can't actually achieve his aims. So what is he really up to?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 3, 2024 8:58:22 GMT
But Flemeth, when asked why she didn't interfere and help the Elves more, she answered with, 'things happened which could not be changed.' Flemeth says a lot of things, just like Solas, which may or may not be that informative. Things did happen in the past and no matter what Solas does in the present, it won't change what happened then; the Elvhen Empire was destroyed and the parlous state of modern day elves with their loss of immortality and direct connection to the Fade was the result. That doesn't necessarily mean Mythal does not think the Veil should be removed or Solas' plan was wrong, just that perhaps she may have done things differently. "You should not have given your orb to Corypheus" sounds like the understatement of the year but perhaps there was more to it than that. Was she admonishing him for giving it to anyone or just Corypheus? Was the plan originally to give it to her? He did go nosing around her hut in the Korcari Wilds after all. Flemeth also says to my Lavellen "You do the People proud". Which was a complete contrast to Mythal's own priesthood who didn't even recognise them as such. There is definitely more to that whole exchange between Flemeth and Solas at the end than was apparent at the time. Plus, he never let on to the Inquisitor that they were now actually talking to Mythal as well as him. Flemeth said "A soul cannot be forced on the unwilling", but I doubt it can be forcibly taken either. The soul of Mythal was happy to depart and enter Solas. Neither Rook nor the Inquisitor are aware of that information.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 6, 2024 8:58:20 GMT
I was looking again at this promo shot and started wondering about some things in it. Firstly, Varric is still featured in the team with Bianca. So, possibly he will return at some point once he gets the crossbow mended. Secondly, take a look at the darkspawn on the left hand side. Are those tainted griffons? Or are they possibly some of those weird hybrids featured in Horror of Hormack, in which case it seems those pools are definitely going to feature in the game. ![](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/JjnM47wT0chX2lqrczlXQm68nog=/1400x1050/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/25484075/dragon_age_veilguard_art.jpg)
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Post by colfoley on Jul 6, 2024 11:10:44 GMT
gervaise21I don't know if you picked it up in another comment or not but I also noticed that again it seems like Lucanis's eyes are glowing in the picture. Noticed it a lot more when the image is at 'full size.'
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Post by azarhal on Jul 6, 2024 11:19:54 GMT
I was looking again at this promo shot and started wondering about some things in it. Firstly, Varric is still featured in the team with Bianca. So, possibly he will return at some point once he gets the crossbow mended. Secondly, take a look at the darkspawn on the left hand side. Are those tainted griffons? Or are they possibly some of those weird hybrids featured in Horror of Hormack, in which case it seems those pools are definitely going to feature in the game. ![](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/JjnM47wT0chX2lqrczlXQm68nog=/1400x1050/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/25484075/dragon_age_veilguard_art.jpg) Not griffons (the middle one on the bottom left has clearly an arm, also that one seems to be attacking the wrong group), looks like helmets that gives them a birdy look when viewed sideway.
Also, the helmet seems to be in the shape of one of the Evanuris. The one that looks like a I in front but it's actually curved backward on the vinyl soundtrack image of the Black City.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 6, 2024 11:34:17 GMT
I don't know if you picked it up in another comment or not but I also noticed that again it seems like Lucanis's eyes are glowing in the picture. Noticed it a lot more when the image is at 'full size.' Yes, I had noticed after making the initial post but decided it wasn't worth mentioning on this thread as we have already discussed his possible possession on his own thread, so it is hardly a crazy theory. ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png)
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 6, 2024 11:37:31 GMT
Not griffons (the middle one on the bottom left has clearly an arm, also that one seems to be attacking the wrong group), looks like helmets that gives them a birdy look when viewed sideway. Yes, that's why I mentioned the pools because the creatures from there did have odd appendages, so could have a hurlock with a bird head, etc. The skeletons on the right hand side have weird arms too, so I think there are definitely going to be some freaky darkspawn this game. Be prepared for spiders with hands as well!
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Jul 12, 2024 16:26:54 GMT
Could Tevinter have been allies with the Donarks prior to Blight 1? What's more, could the Donarks have isolated themselves after Blight 1 Begun? It seems the idea of the Joining came from them, but it's clear there's been no contact since then
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 12, 2024 17:06:31 GMT
What's more, could the Donarks have isolated themselves after Blight 1 Begun? It seems the idea of the Joining came from them, but it's clear there's been no contact since then I wasn't aware that the Joining came from the Donarks, just possibly from elves in the ranks of the Wardens. As for what the situation is up in the Donarks with respect to the Blight, clearly there must be some sort of magic protecting it from darkspawn incursions considering the Anderfels is just to the south and is now a blighted wasteland. Presumably no one has seen fit to attempt to get there over land because of the vast stretches of the Anderfels you would have to cross to get there. It is Tevinter sailors who seem to have reported what they have seen from the coast, so there could literally be anything in the interior. As far as the reports go there aren't any communities in the jungle but that is likely because anyone attempting to go there possibly hasn't returned and any people there clearly do not wish to make contact with the outside world, perhaps because of the desire to protect themselves from the blight and anything else that might infect them. It is possible that it is protected by a Titan much closer to the surface than the ones in the rest of Thedas.
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Post by Liepsnele on Jul 13, 2024 12:37:12 GMT
Not a crazy theory but I'm currently replaying Inquisition and Leliana's dialogue after the Well of Sorrows intrigued me. She says something along these lines about Corypheus: "What's next? Can he command the sun to rise and seas to burn?" Sounds like foreshadowing of something Elgar'nan could do. Or at least that might have been the plan in 2014 anyway.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 14, 2024 6:56:33 GMT
"What's next? Can he command the sun to rise and seas to burn?" She was probably just being sarcastic about Corypheus who, let's face it, wasn't really that impressive without the orb, his dragon and his minions. Even in Legacy he relied on some sort of magic associated with his prison to fight us more than his own ability. Okay so he raised the Temple site into the sky but that was largely down to the big hole affecting gravity in the area and the shed load of lyrium in the old mountain that likely powered it, having been corrupted in the first explosion. Sounds like foreshadowing of something Elgar'nan could do. Unless we are talking a metaphorical sun, as in a Titan, then I doubt Elgar'nan could do this, even if he thinks he could. In any case it would seem he is more of a lightning expert according to his worshipers. However, I will grant they say he can "Burn the ground under your gaze". Oddly enough in the Dalish legend it is the Sun, his father, who does this, which Elgar'nan objects to and so attacks him. Clearly, there was some muddling in the memory as he was the one burning the earth in retaliation for destroying the elven structures with earthquakes. His followers also asked him to "Bring Winged Death to those who destroy our work". So, I imagine we have most to fear from him when he is in his dragon form. Also, anyone against whom he feels the need to exact vengeance. If we assume that the Old Gods were friends/allies rather than enemies, then likely he might feel a bit aggrieved at their deaths. If so, the Wardens had better watch out because he will be coming for them. Turning to the description on the EA website that accompanied the 2023 trailer, it had the following to say about the Anderfels: To the far west, three Grey Wardens patrol the Anderfels. Tremors have been creating disturbances of late. Their cause is unknown. Upon the distant horizon, a storm of ominous intent brews and darkens the skies.The tremors would seem to indicate an awakened Titan, although he could have been the one to awaken it, but the ominous storm darkening the skies is likely to be associated with Elgar'nan.
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Post by fistoffiori on Jul 19, 2024 11:04:06 GMT
Not so much a theory, let alone a crazy one, but for the first time ever as far as I'm aware, I actually shortly dreamed about Dragon Age last night (maybe the Fade has found me haha). I imagine it's because I was playing Inquisition into the evening after work (and thinking about Veilguard).
Anyway, in the little bit (frankly, tiny!) I remember of the dream, Rook is going around Minrathous and Solas speaks to him telepathically, a lot like your Guardian does in BG3.
Probably wrong, as far as I remember I read that we talk to Solas while in the Lighthouse?
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Post by jennica on Jul 19, 2024 11:17:53 GMT
Probably wrong, as far as I remember I read that we talk to Solas while in the Lighthouse? It's not exactely clear how we will be able to talk with Solas, but i assume since he is trapped in the Fade, we can talk to him in our dreams. On other hand, Rook is connected to the Fade via their blood, so who knows, maybe it will be similar to Gurdian in BG3 and Solas will talk to us whenever he pleases.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 22, 2024 11:10:13 GMT
maybe it will be similar to Gurdian in BG3 and Solas will talk to us whenever he pleases. If that is the case, I hope I can tune him out like I do my tinitus. Anyway, in the little bit (frankly, tiny!) I remember of the dream, Rook is going around Minrathous and Solas speaks to him telepathically, a lot like your Guardian does in BG3. I keep having visions of ME2 and Harbinger, so at some point Solas will declare: "Assuming control" and suddenly we're just a puppet. Hopefully this is not a case when the "super fan" figured out the intentions of the writers but just a paranoid "skeptical fan" who was burned by Solas in DAI and has never really got over it. ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png)
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Post by colfoley on Jul 22, 2024 11:44:40 GMT
maybe it will be similar to Gurdian in BG3 and Solas will talk to us whenever he pleases. If that is the case, I hope I can tune him out like I do my tinitus. Anyway, in the little bit (frankly, tiny!) I remember of the dream, Rook is going around Minrathous and Solas speaks to him telepathically, a lot like your Guardian does in BG3. I keep having visions of ME2 and Harbinger, so at some point Solas will declare: "Assuming control" and suddenly we're just a puppet. Hopefully this is not a case when the "super fan" figured out the intentions of the writers but just a paranoid "skeptical fan" who was burned by Solas in DAI and has never really got over it. ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png) I'd worry more about Inky here. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/uYQYVMAupPAfTXFFwWlB.png)
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 22, 2024 16:17:36 GMT
I'd worry more about Inky here. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/uYQYVMAupPAfTXFFwWlB.png) Only if they were stupid enough to drink from the Well. I was instantly put off by Cole advising me "You don't want all those voices in your head", plus having the arcane knowledge to recognise it was probably some form of geas. Then next run Dorian said that he did not want to lose me to the Well. I thought a warning like that from a Tevinter mage was worth paying attention to. Both times I noted that Solas didn't want to drink, even though he didn't want Morrigan to drink either. Of course, if you do drink, he says he warned you not to, which he didn't and to be honest he didn't leave you much choice considering he agreed that someone had to drink to prevent Cory getting it. Then he makes that dire prediction about working for Mythal now whether you know it or not. So, really a the Well drinker was already her puppet. Of course, if he does have a direct line to your mind the biggest danger is that he could just kill you. It is not as though he hadn't done that already. However, according to Felassan there are special herbs you can take to help block him. Please let it be elf root! ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png)
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Post by colfoley on Jul 22, 2024 18:06:47 GMT
I'd worry more about Inky here. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/uYQYVMAupPAfTXFFwWlB.png) Only if they were stupid enough to drink from the Well. I was instantly put off by Cole advising me "You don't want all those voices in your head", plus having the arcane knowledge to recognise it was probably some form of geas. Then next run Dorian said that he did not want to lose me to the Well. I thought a warning like that from a Tevinter mage was worth paying attention to. Both times I noted that Solas didn't want to drink, even though he didn't want Morrigan to drink either. Of course, if you do drink, he says he warned you not to, which he didn't and to be honest he didn't leave you much choice considering he agreed that someone had to drink to prevent Cory getting it. Then he makes that dire prediction about working for Mythal now whether you know it or not. So, really a the Well drinker was already her puppet. Of course, if he does have a direct line to your mind the biggest danger is that he could just kill you. It is not as though he hadn't done that already. However, according to Felassan there are special herbs you can take to help block him. Please let it be elf root! ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png) if only cole was on my Inquisitors A team she might've actually taken his advice.
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Jul 29, 2024 15:16:47 GMT
Will VeilGuard see a greater return of Old God Worship in Thedas? Surely, people must be bored about the absent Maker at this point
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 29, 2024 15:49:17 GMT
Will VeilGuard see a greater return of Old God Worship in Thedas? Surely, people must be bored about the absent Maker at this point I suppose it depends on how events play out. I do wonder if the elves will flock to their ancient gods once they know they are back.
As for Old God worship, I suppose that also depends on whether the Evanuris and the Old Gods are the same beings. Otherwise, perhaps the other two were released too and there will be 4 ancient beings running/flying around Thedas demanding worship.
I agree the Maker really needs to get his act together in that case.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 7, 2024 17:09:43 GMT
![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUXXobaa8AIGAVE?format=jpg&name=large) So apparently the darkspawn look weird for "spoiler" reasons: ![](https://i.imgur.com/9a2CwJq.png) Who do you think is responsible? My money would be on Ghil and her monster pools, although I suppose it could just be feeding them red lyrium that is doing this, so anyone, even some mad Venatori might be involved. Or a Magister Sidereal. After all, there are at least 5 more out there. Also, do you think he was agreeing that the change to the demons was just a design choice or perhaps they are also different for plot reasons? ![](https://i.redd.it/c6noqz7u166d1.jpeg) I was thinking that if demons reflect what they see and sense from the Fade, perhaps they looked different in the south because people had a more negative view of them there and expect solid looking monsters, whereas from the conversation between Dorian and Solas it would seem mages are far more chilled about spirits and demons up north and perhaps their appearance reflects how they expect them to look. Or it has something to do with the activities of Fen'Harel and his memories of how spirits used to look back in the good old days. A further thought. Whilst demons attack Rook's party when they get to Arlathan, they don't seem to bother Solas. Could it be they are aiding Fen'Harel and protecting his ritual site, not just coming through the Veil randomly?
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Post by Reznore on Aug 7, 2024 17:14:52 GMT
There's no good story reason for darkspawn to look this goofy. Sure maybe Ghil is having some fun, but you shouldn't look at darkspawn and feel like laughing. If those things glitched there will be video all over Youtube. *sigh*
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Post by colfoley on Aug 8, 2024 1:59:15 GMT
There's no good story reason for darkspawn to look this goofy. Sure maybe Ghil is having some fun, but you shouldn't look at darkspawn and feel like laughing. If those things glitched there will be video all over Youtube. *sigh* since when have the Darkspawn not been goofy? I've certainly always felt like laughing at them since Origins.
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